Site upgrade!

[Hyper]

See, I don't mind you putting you sugguestions thats fine.. But when you completly bash it, thats a whole diffrent level.. You may hate it, but don't say that.. Think of something else please.. Like," Its good to see a change, but I would rather this, instead of this" Instead of being NEGATIVE write something you would LIKE to see and not, simply" IT SUXXORZ! BRING THE OLD ONE BACK!"

 

Not sure if that's directed to me, but I'm not completely bashing it. I do say negative things, but if you think everything can be said in a positive way and have your point still communicated,, you're gravely mistaken. Anyways, yeah, "It's good to see a change, but I would rather some other sort of change, instead of this."

[LPShinodaFM]

I find the new layout fairly nice. The only thing is that the spazzing "Post reply" is sort of ticking me off... >< but other than that, i think it's pretty cool

[Victim]

No, actually Hyper, I was complimenting you, because you put what you wanted and what you would like to see.. That statement was directed toward people who just post that they hate it, and never say anything else.

[Hyper]

Meh, my bad for bein self centered and thinkin everything is directed at me

[Hahninator]

I don't like it. Not to be an ass or anything, but it seems like the current design is a step back from where we were. When I look at forums, the first thing that you notice is the layout. Now, I may be guilty of judging a book by it's cover, but most sites that have.. such vibrantly contrasting color schemes such as baby blue, goldish tan, and grey and black, aren't to be taken seriously. Usually the people behind the site are little 12 year old kids who like obnoxious looking things and UsuaLLy Typ LyK Dizz1!!

 

Now, I know this forum is established and the people behind it are not said 12 year olds, but that's the impression I get from all other sites with schemes like this. I do like to see myself as a kind of, aesthetic architect, if you will, and I'd like to share a couple.. suggestions I have to improve the layout [ in my opinion anyways ]

 

Stick with v3's general scheme. The looks of v3 were absolutely gorgeous. The only thing I really would have changed would have been the dull pastel blue, and the banner. Otherwise it was great. I would suggest to change that pastel blue to a nice green. Like the Elite color, it just.. flows well.

 

Ditch the animated buttons/avoid that font! The buttons are insanely large, and my resolution is at 1280x1024. The site shouldn't take up most of the screen like it does. Bigger may be better in most cases, but this isn't one of them. And that font, yes, it's a LP font, and yes LP uses it, but the thing just reminds me of another 12 year old trying to impress his buddies. Sexy and sleek is what we need, not bold and jittery.

 

I know you may not agree with me, and I know some people have but some hard work into this. I'm not trying to dog them or anything, I'm just saying that I don't think the outcome of their work is.. what everyone wanted. Everyone called for change, but this seems to be change in the wrong direction. I'm not alone when I express my dislike for it.

 

If whoever is in charge of this wants some expansion or even help with my ideas, I'd be glad to help. As some of you know I am quite well versed in the knowledge of Photoshop, and I'd be glad to lend a helping hand.

 

Couldn't agree more.

The layout turns me off and makes me just want to not come back anymore >_<

[Kanavazk]

I liked the old one better, but not by much. It's still pretty good.

[Person]

I'm guessing you were addressing me Victim. Well, there's nothing left to say...I mean, I liked the OLD look better, and I would prefer it to be as the old one was again. If they wanted to change it, they should've changed the blue to green, that way there was no dramatic change and most people would remain happy. Here on the other hand, people are split in whether they like it or not. As Hahn has previously stated, it makes me not wanna come back =(.

[Vash_the_Stampede]

Nobody is making you guys stay. If you don't like it so much, why come?

This is the same shit as last years LPFA

[LPShinodaFM]

C'mon guys, let's not fight about this... everyone just soften your tone a bit and let's see if we can work out a compromise...

[JNuts]

-ditch the off orange/yellow color...clashes too much with the grey

-your categories strips (vbulletin CSS talk) look funkie....they appear "deeper" then the rest of the tables...they should appear bigger

-you have a lot of things going on at once...the yellow, white, grey, black, and light blue, coming at a visitor all at once can be a turn off...stick to 3 colors at most

-ditch the animated text

-your home page title meta tag is blank, so it reads "- Powered by vBulletin"

-using all flat colors is another issue...you had some nice gradients before, what happened?

-top stats should go below "whats going on"

-get rid of the light blue border and text

-good idea with flash chat integration

-get a better one of these http://www.linkinparkforums.com/styles/LPF4/misc/navbits_start.gif

-also, in the top stats, the join date of newest members is in black...against a black background

-enable WYSIWYG editor

-the clock is incorrect...i double checked my zone to be USA PST, yet it reads 3 hours ahead

 

overall, it was a good idea, but poorly executed...you over did it with too many different colors, and forgot key gradients

 

 

edit: sorry guys, but the more i view it, the uglier it gets...i would try again with a new skin

 

Nobody is making you guys stay. If you don't like it so much, why come?

This is the same shit as last years LPFA

 

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i wouldnt tell members that...cause some will leave...as an admin, you should always be willing to accept critism from members, ESPECIALLY when it comes to a new forum style...because an ugly forum style can drive away new members...when members take the time to write out constructive critism like Hyper did, its your job to consider what they are saying, espicially when that person is a active member...not to simply say, "oh well, you dont have to go here if you dont wanna"...because in the end, many may end up doing that...thats not the attitude an admin should take...trust me, i know

 

the correct response would be, "Ok guys, i see what your saying....lemme see what i can fix"....you will loose respect from members if you dont listen to them

 

i recently redesigned my vbulletin forum, and i got a lot of good constructive critism from members...i listened, fixed it up, and now those same members really like what ive done with the site

 

im espicially shocked you said this after hahninator posted that

 

The layout turns me off and makes me just want to not come back anymore >_<

Warning flags should go off when one of your biggest contributors and most active members says the skin makes not want to come back.

 

 

-J

[Vash_the_Stampede]

 

i wouldnt tell members that...cause some will leave...as an admin, you should always be willing to accept critism from members, ESPECIALLY when it comes to a new forum style...because an ugly forum style can drive away new members...when members take the time to write out constructive critism like Hyper did, its your job to consider what they are saying, espicially when that person is a active member...not to simply say, "oh well, you dont have to go here if you dont wanna"...because in the end, many may end up doing that...thats not the attitude an admin should take...trust me, i know

 

the correct response would be, "Ok guys, i see what your saying....lemme see what i can fix"....you will loose respect from members if you dont listen to them

 

i recently resigned my vbulletin forum, and i got a lot of good constructive critism from members...i listened, fixed it up, and now those same members really like what ive done with the site

 

im espicially shocked you said this after hahninator posted that

 

 

Warning flags should go off when one of your biggest contributors and most active members says the skin makes not want to come back.

 

 

-J

Hm.. Well, it's been shown time & time again that I don't have much respect from the members to begin with, save for a select few, so that shouldn't be a problem. On top of that, this isn't my forum, I apparently don't post here at all, and when I do it's obviously for a fight, that said, I'm not the one who has any thing to do with the upgrade or the apparent 'banner contest'.

 

Like I said, this is the same exact thing that I had to deal with from the LPF Awards, and guess what, it was because of that 'biggest contributer & most active member'.

Someone on the staff tries to do something that was asked, neigh, begged for, and 95% of the response has been a general hate & throwing it back in their face as though they need to do it perfectly.

 

nooooooooooo I don't like it

I agree.

I can't stand it either.

hate the animation, hate the colors, EWW

Sorry but I HATE IT =/

hehe we must make a petition thingy

 

Do you even want me to go through Mark's thread for the LPFA?

 

Everything the staff has done to this forum has gotten nothing but negative & even hateful response. I'm personally tired of it.

[JNuts]

^^true, many members did ask for a new style...but that doesnt mean that even if they dont like it, you shouldnt have to change anything

 

styles are very important, and need to be done with "A" quality....this, is not even "C" quality...its faaaaaar from perfect, and needs alot of work

 

you can do what you want, or in this case, dont do anything....but dont be surprised if you see decreased activity from those who dont like the new design

[Stllmn8j]

There's a bit of a problem when it causes my eyes to go in and out of focus,gives me a headache

[UnhingedMouse0]

TOO MUCH CLUTTER!

 

I am sorry, but I despise it. It has its good points, but still needs plenty of work.

 

Things I have issues with....

- Mini Prof + Avatar

- Animated Buttons

- No Home Page Link

- Chat

- Quotes

- Size

- Online Button

- Colors

- Time (Is still three hours off)

 

Good things....

- Milti-Quote

- Quick Edit

- New Banner (Though I would take out the arrows and the site address. And how is that tiled?)

 

 

I shall elaborate tomorrow.

 

 

Oh, did I mention too much clutter?

[GraDoN]

Everything the staff has done to this forum has gotten nothing but negative & even hateful response. I'm personally tired of it.

 

you know there are alot of members that like it or finds it okay and jut want to change a few things... dont stereotype this..

and yes i thing hahn could have some respect for the nre layour.. takes hours of work..

instead of saying "Meh it fucking sucks" make a list of things you would like to change and we can work together

personally i like the new layout....

so vash not everybody hates it....

[JNuts]

yeah, thats another thing...everything looks like random stuff thrown together...very little matches and blends well

[Rusu_luvs_LP_4ever]

Awesome upgrade :D:D hehe it all looks so cool and awesome like...

[coredump]

Well guys, thanks for your feedback, both positive and criticism

The main purpose of this upgrade was of course not to change the layout/style but to upgrade the software (and therefore fix security and spam issues and be able to use recent add-ons).

As to colors etc I myself am in favor of the old color scheme (and gradients) and my partner (who does most of the job on the upgrade, he registered here as alexhirurg) and I actually have had an argument on this matter. However I would like not to keep it exactly the same as it was before but pimp it at least a bit.

We are open to suggestions and will implement whatever the majority of public likes. However please be patient as we are still working on some software bugs here and there and fixing them is top priority.

 

Those of you who are proficient in graphics feel free to submit your vision on forums appearance in form of graphics samples (take a screenshot of various pages of forums and pimp it up according to your vision). Please start a new thread in Site Talk if you want to submit graphics (and only if nobody started such thread before you did, otherwise post in that thread).

 

And buttons... Well, I think they must look more like... buttons.

 

I will also start a few polls now to study public opinion on number of more specific matters. Please help us by participating in all of them.

[GraDoN]

TOO MUCH CLUTTER!

 

I am sorry, but I despise it. It has its good points, but still needs plenty of work.

 

Things I have issues with....

- Mini Prof + Avatar

- Animated Buttons

- No Home Page Link

- Chat

- Quotes

- Size

- Online Button

- Colors

- Time (Is still three hours off)

 

Good things....

- Milti-Quote

- Quick Edit

- New Banner (Though I would take out the arrows and the site address. And how is that tiled?)

 

 

i agree with him on the things in bold.....

but that is things that can be fixed.... dont "i want the old layout back"

[coredump]

^You seriously expect the LPF Mods/Admins/Owner to allow LPF to have a banner competition when half of LPF get's emo about the LPF awards being a "popularity contest"? I mean, either way people are going to be unhappy about something...

 

To avoid turning banner contest (or any other similar contest) into a popularity one it can be done anonymously. I.e. participants submit their entries to one of the mods who is coordinating the contest and he/she publishes them under numbers without revealing the names of participants until the results of voting. And revealing the name by participant himself should disqualify him/her.

[shadowfax1007]

Someone on the staff tries to do something that was asked, neigh, begged for, and 95% of the response has been a general hate & throwing it back in their face as though they need to do it perfectly.

 

Everything the staff has done to this forum has gotten nothing but negative & even hateful response. I'm personally tired of it.

 

If your tired of it, start listening to the community and what they want. You get the negative comments because the staff dont listen to what we want. Sure, you guys own and run the place, but we are the ones who visit, who make the threads and discuss things, so we should be able to have input too.

 

We have been asking for a banner/layout design competition for ages, and we were all ignored. and its only now that we decided to run the competion ourselves, that the site got updated.

[Peterdea]

i actualy realy like it, i am perfectly happy with it.

[Rusu_luvs_LP_4ever]

We have been asking for a banner/layout design competition for ages' date=' and we were all ignored. and its only now that we decided to run the competion ourselves, that the site got updated.[/quote']

^You seriously expect the LPF Mods/Admins/Owner to allow LPF to have a banner competition when half of LPF get's emo about the LPF awards being a "popularity contest"? I mean, either way people are going to be unhappy about something...

[shadowfax1007]

^You seriously expect the LPF Mods/Admins/Owner to allow LPF to have a banner competition when half of LPF get's emo about the LPF awards being a "popularity contest"? I mean, either way people are going to be unhappy about something...

 

yeah, those awards are rigged.

the community has hardly any input into the awards, and it is popularity/friendships that get you the awards.

not that i care, a little award on a forum means nothing to me, i just dont like seeing people ripped off and disadvantaged.

[Friðbjörn]

I don't get why anyone would not want to come back here, based solely on the new layout. Except of course if it gives you a headache.

But for it just being in the person's opinion ugly...that's no reason to leave.

 

Obviously there's need for criticism but by some of the responses on here I wouldn't have been surprised to see coredump get mad at some people in here.

 

Nah blehh...I'm not telling anyone to behave. Those who don't, are the same people that never learn...