Ok... well I'm confused.

[tsinoitcelfer]

Mods.... Admins.... Can someone tell me what's going on?

 

I get a PM today from Azem saying that I seem to be on the staff's shitlist *again* and I also see I've got some sort of 'warning point,' I don't even know what that is, but it sounds bad.

 

So um...

 

Anyone want to bother telling me what I did wrong, or do you want to just wait until I do it again, not knowing it's wrong, and then ban me?

 

I mean, it sounds logical, that's similar to what happened last time.

 

I'm not angry, I'm not. I promise. And I'm not seeking to reprimand anyone. I just want to know why I got a PM saying you guys were all "Looking for a reason to ban me"

 

 

 

It really doesn't make sense. Everything I've done is my normal run-of-the-mill stuff.... not offensive, just... me. If I recall.... the last time I got banned was because I went apeshit and started spamming the forums because a bunch of elites and mods started griping about me and talking about me behind my back....

 

 

I don't recall spamming any forums lately. Nor do I recall breaking any rules.

 

 

And, for the love of God, someone tell me this isn't about the word Penis. Because if it is, then, seriously it's childish and immature to take action for that. It is the scientific word. I could be out saying 'dick' and stupid words like that, but I'm trying to be mature about it. And not to mention I did suggest having Gender indicators before (in the same manner) and it was regarded widely as a harmless joke.

 

So unless the reasoning is someone forgot to take their Xanax this morning, or someone can't let go of the past, I honestly fail to see what the problem is.

 

So let me know. Please.

 

 

 

EDIT - Never mind. Mark copied your thread to me... Guilty as charged I guess. Heartbreaking to find all the secrecy and what not.

[Victim]

I talked Ref. presonally.. and he know where I stand.. and Now LPF, here you go, because this is the just of what I told him.

 

I DO NOT BELIEVE HE SHOULD BE BANNED, NOR SUSPENDED, or even get a warning. If I will fight his banning till the end, and if it becomes necessary unban him.

 

Everyone needs to understand, Ref, has nothing against you personally, and is not trying to piss you off, or hurt you in anyone.. LPF as a whole takes everything too PERSONALLY.. And that has to stop.. Anytime someone says something, you take it as a personal attack against you.. and that is not what is going on.. You need to wake up and realize, that not everything everyone says, all the time is going to be nice.. Yes, I agree, some of the stuff Ref says can be taken bad.. But why do you let it bother you...

 

I will quote myself from the staff section

"The only thing is, he can be a nice guy.. He just does start too much shit."

 

He does start shit.. But, he doesn't do it alone.. You help him.. By acting like you are personally wounded by his words.. and honestly you are not.. This whole matter is really starting to piss me off.. I am tired of everyone running to me, say Ref. said this or Ref. said that.. Suck it up, and take it like an adult, and respond..

 

I am 100% on his side. I will delete posts if it is spam and off topic, but guys.. He is just trying to have a friendly debt, and they you guys cry out like its a personal attack.. Its not, get over it, stop thinking everyone is out to get yo.. They aren't... Grow up..

 

This matter should be over.. But sadly its not..

 

Ahh this is a little jumbled, but I am tired.. You all get my point. Shit, if I wasn't talking to him on my phone, I would have copied our convo.. If you have it Ref. you can post what I said.. I don't care, because its the truth, and I stand by what I said.

[tsinoitcelfer]

Ref says:

Thank you.

 

Victim says:

for?

 

Ref says:

"The only thing is, he can be a nice guy"

 

Ref says:

Thank you.

 

Victim says:

well, its tru

 

Victim says:

I know you have a strong personality

 

Ref says:

what is that supposed to mean

 

Victim says:

and just bc some people don't agree with what you say

 

Victim says:

shouldnt mean you should be punishes

 

Victim says:

punished*

 

Ref says:

I'd honestly prefer that if I disagree with someone, and say it, that they would come back with some more ferocity. Then it's a mutual debate and it's sort of in the name of fun..... but when people get offended too easily and don't want to stick up for themselves, they just rely on that 'report post' button and instead of getting a friendly jest I get a warning or a ban

 

Ref says:

I don't have a strong personality at all, just everyone else has a weak one.

 

Ref says:

Mostly everyone else.

 

Ref says:

And those who don't interperet things wrongly.

 

Victim says:

and I agree, you should be able to say what you want

 

Ref says:

And mistake a friendly challenge of ideas for open hostility.

 

Ref says:

and closemindedness.

 

Victim says:

And everyone should learn not to take everything so personally

 

Ref says:

That's right.

 

Victim says:

but they do, and there is nothing you or I can do about it

 

Ref says:

You're a moderator, Victim.... not I.

 

Ref says:

You're the one participating in that thread..... maybe you could bring that up.

 

Victim says:

I didn't get to finish my post bc I was in a hurry, but I don't believe you should receive a ban nor a suspension

 

Ref says:

or a warning?

 

Ref says:

In all fairness... I was the one to request that thread be deleted.

 

Ref says:

I'm pretty sure

 

Ref says:

I requested a couple of threads be deleted, I think.

 

Victim says:

I think everyone else should get a warning, you have done nothing wrong in my mind

 

Ref says:

Thank you,

 

Victim says:

you like to say, what you think should be said, and everyone else takes everything to extreme

 

Victim says:

Well mostly everyone

 

Victim says:

and I can tell them all that they shouldnt take everthing personaly like they do, but I don't think it will do much

 

Ref says:

it's worth the try...

 

Ref says:

If Um0 had brought up the 'B word' then it'd be set in his mind already and there's no way anyone could tell him otherwise

 

Victim says:

I don't think you should be banned as i said, so I'm not gunna let it happen

 

Ref says:

Thank you

 

Victim says:

because I will just unban you if it comes down to that

 

Ref says:

Thanks

 

Ref says:

I see you've found my thread....

 

Ref says:

lol

 

Victim says:

Indeed and I am gunna post in it, but I am gunna say what I said to you

 

Ref says:

that's fine with me

 

Victim says:

posted

[Victim]

and there you have it guys....

 

Everyone can say what they are going to say.. Just know.. It won't change my stance on this matter.

 

Shoot, and while we are at it.. Can we give the guy is name back yet?

[Breakdown Conspiracy]

I cant really distinguish why he was sent that PM, from what you posted Vic.

Truthfully, I have no problem with Ref. I dont have a relationship with him outside of LPF, but he seems ok. Despite this he does irk me sometimes with the rather silly thing's he says.

But I cant really find a proper reason to ban him.

People are people...

[Victim]

it basically went down like this: one of the staff just pointed out that Ref has been stirruring things up, and asked anyone else who talks to Ref to ask him to cool down. Obviously, and I dont know who and I dont really care befause Ref needed to know, someone let him know wht was going down in the staff area. Essentially, i supose, the whole forum needs to know because this problem needs to be solved, and all im saying is banning ref ( again lol) isnt fair nor is it gunna fix the problem. The person who made the thread never mentioned banning they just said Ref needs to cool down. All im saying is, if it comes down to it, i will not agree to the ban or suspension of him.

 

 

Hope that clears it up some.

[Breakdown Conspiracy]

it basically went down like this: one of the staff just pointed out that Ref has been stirruring things up, and asked anyone else who talks to Ref to ask him to cool down. Obviously, and I dont know who and I dont really care befause Ref needed to know, someone let him know wht was going down in the staff area. Essentially, i supose, the whole forum needs to know because this problem needs to be solved, and all im saying is banning ref ( again lol) isnt fair nor is it gunna fix the problem. The person who made the thread never mentioned banning they just said Ref needs to cool down. All im saying is, if it comes down to it, i will not agree to the ban or suspension of him.

 

 

Hope that clears it up some.

 

Yea ok thanks. Well he hasnt brought total collapse to the forums..yet But like I said before, he does say things sometimes that dont need to be said, but I still think he deserves to stay. :thumbsup:

[Friðbjörn]

okay wow this is news to me...

 

there have been things in the past, but ref is a cool guy, lol. besides, the forum need a little humor from time to time, it's only healthy.

 

those people who complain about him must be people that have been around from the time after he was banned, cause it at least counts for me that people who have been around him long enough should know that he's harmless...

 

 

I have to be honest though, I did think otherwise. and I mean ref you have some skeletons, not all your own fault though.

 

 

 

 

 

so yeah bottomline...don't ban him.

[MrsBennington-Delson]

I don't think Ref should be banned O.o

I don't know him well but as said before from Jona I also consider him as a cool guy and those little things he 'started'... well that's not a reason to ban him or anyone else because if it would someone should ban me and some other members on here too

Ref has to stay!

[FireHawk]

I get a PM today from Azem saying that I seem to be on the staff's shitlist *again* and I also see I've got some sort of 'warning point,' I don't even know what that is, but it sounds bad.

 

Damn Ref I leave for a few months and that sentence alone sounds like all the fun is starting up again with out

 

LPF as a whole takes everything too PERSONALLY[/Quote]

 

Yeah that is a huge problem on here that does need to be fixed. You people need to realize this is the Internet. On the Internet people don't know you in real. So it should not matter what they say. And people like Ref use sarcasm a lot (in a humors way) but not to piss anyone off, but do because you can translate emotion over text in a forum post.

 

Peace

-Hawk

[tsinoitcelfer]

Damn Ref I leave for a few months and that sentence alone sounds like all the fun is starting up again with out

 

 

 

Yeah that is a huge problem on here that does need to be fixed. You people need to realize this is the Internet. On the Internet people don't know you in real. So it should not matter what they say. And people like Ref use sarcasm a lot (in a humors way) but not to piss anyone off, but do because you can translate emotion over text in a forum post.

 

Peace

-Hawk

 

this is anything but 'fun'

[FireHawk]

this is anything but 'fun'

 

If you say so I remember when I was told leave the site for a few days or be suspended that was when it was fun...

[tsinoitcelfer]

Yeah, that made sense, too.... you know

 

The whole, me you and mark all were doing equally stupid things, and I come out with a band while you two are elite and moderator.

 

So I'm understandably a little suspicious of the motives behind some of our esteemed moderators.

[Jeezy]

Honestly...I totally have no problem with what Reflectionist does on here...I think most of it is entertaining...

 

of course sometimes you take things personal..but you should just fire back then...that's what I would do.

[tsinoitcelfer]

Honestly...I totally have no problem with what Reflectionist does on here...I think most of it is entertaining...

 

of course sometimes you take things personal..but you should just fire back then...that's what I would do.

 

Well, it's probably too much to ask some members to grow alittle pubic hair every once in awhile.

[Jeezy]

Well, it's probably too much to ask some members to grow alittle pubic hair every once in awhile.

 

see..once again...some people would think that's offending

[Linkin_lp_park]

see..once again...some people would think that's offending

 

Yeah, but you should just see the fun in that sorta things

[Tomer]

see..once again...some people would think that's offending

 

true.. You shouldn't take the internet serious or personal in the first place.

And concerning ref; he's our LPF clown nothing wrong with that.

I mean.. a little bit humor won't hurt.

[FireHawk]

Yeah, that made sense, too.... you know

 

The whole, me you and mark all were doing equally stupid things, and I come out with a band while you two are elite and moderator.

 

So I'm understandably a little suspicious of the motives behind some of our esteemed moderators.

 

Yeah you got the shaft on that but looking back it was all pretty stupid. If you look at it though mark is the only one that benefited since he is a mod. Being an elite doesn't mean a thing you just get to have the same color name as a bunch of people who treat other people like shit...and if you treat people like shit you get a way with it (Not sure this is still true or not but I remember it use to be like that).

[allieking]

i don't find ref atall annoying or offensive, we all need to lighten up and take a joke now and again. everyone knows that no one on here would ever knowingly hurt anyone elses feelings.

[Black_Angel]

o_0

 

This is weird.

 

As far as I've seen he hasn't done anything to upset anyone, and if he has it's because they've taken a joke too seriously... but yeah I don't know you Ref but I think you're well amusing and this forum would just get even more boring without people like you.

[tsinoitcelfer]

o_0

 

This is weird.

 

As far as I've seen he hasn't done anything to upset anyone, and if he has it's because they've taken a joke too seriously... but yeah I don't know you Ref but I think you're well amusing and this forum would just get even more boring without people like you.

 

can't let that happen, it's boring enough as it is.

[Stllmn8j]

see..once again...some people would think that's offending

 

But if I said that people would be like "Lmao!"

 

Instead we get" OMG! REf is tryoing to destroy LPF!!!111!!"

[untitled]

i don't always agree with what ref says and i dont know him very well but he seems like a cool guy imo

his replies are entertaining and the forum kinda needs someone like him

 

what did you do wrong actually ref if i may ask?

[Hahninator]

leave me out of this please.