Guest Clint Hunter Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 So much for all the negativity from Marxists, Democrats, anarchists and other anti-capitalists. I wonder what leftist academic Paul Krugman has to say. Well, of course, he would echo Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, John Edwards and other socialists and populists in saying that there are two Americas with only the top 70% really benefiting. This is bull. More bad news for anti-capitalist socialists: the world's middle class has added one billion people in the last five years. This would be mainly in China and India. So here is proof the the global capitalist economy promoted by Reagan, Thatcher and Canada's Brian Mulroney in the the 1980s with their trade agreements has been very effective. And her is another black eye for the socialist/populist model. Many of the better educated, more enterprising Venezuelans are fleeing Chavez's regime, with many coming or wanting to come to the U.S. Not all are Venezuelans, however. Many Cuban doctors there (from the oil for doctors agreement between Castro and Chavez) are also defecting. Many have already made it to Florida apparently. Who can blame them? In his movie "Sicko" did Democrat Michael Moore disclose that Cuban doctors under Castro make only about $15 a month under Cuba's government-run medicaid? Quote
Guest Bret Cahill Posted July 18, 2007 Posted July 18, 2007 The high tax Clinton economic boom put the Party of Gipper on the ash heap of history. It's a pity Democrats didn't run anyone in 2000 to kill off the GOP before Dumbya did it. Bret Cahill Quote
Guest Bret Cahill Posted July 18, 2007 Posted July 18, 2007 Looks like Wall Street likes high tax Clinton economic booms. Bret Cahill Quote
Guest Jerry Kraus Posted July 18, 2007 Posted July 18, 2007 On Jul 17, 11:35 am, Clint Hunter <cicer...@rogers.com> wrote: > So much for all the negativity from Marxists, Democrats, anarchists > and other > anti-capitalists. I wonder what leftist academic Paul Krugman has to > say. Well, of course, he would echo Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, > John Edwards and other socialists and populists > in saying that there are two Americas with only the top 70% really > benefiting. This is bull. > > More bad news for anti-capitalist socialists: the world's middle class > has added > one billion people in the last five years. This would be mainly in > China and India. > So here is proof the the global capitalist economy promoted by Reagan, > Thatcher > and Canada's Brian Mulroney in the the 1980s with their trade > agreements has been > very effective. > > And her is another black eye for the socialist/populist model. > Many of the better educated, more enterprising Venezuelans are > fleeing > Chavez's regime, with many coming or wanting to come to the U.S. > > Not all are Venezuelans, however. Many Cuban doctors there (from the > oil for > doctors agreement between Castro and Chavez) are also defecting. Many > have > already made it to Florida apparently. Who can blame them? > In his movie "Sicko" did Democrat Michael Moore disclose that Cuban > doctors > under Castro make only about $15 a month under Cuba's government-run > medicaid? Quote
Guest PerfectlyAble Posted July 18, 2007 Posted July 18, 2007 Clint Hunter wrote: > So much for all the negativity from Marxists, Democrats, anarchists > and other > anti-capitalists. I wonder what leftist academic Paul Krugman has to > say. Well, of course, he would echo Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, > John Edwards and other socialists and populists > in saying that there are two Americas with only the top 70% really > benefiting. This is bull. > > More bad news for anti-capitalist socialists: the world's middle class > has added > one billion people in the last five years. This would be mainly in > China and India. > So here is proof the the global capitalist economy promoted by Reagan, > Thatcher > and Canada's Brian Mulroney in the the 1980s with their trade > agreements has been > very effective. > > And her is another black eye for the socialist/populist model. > Many of the better educated, more enterprising Venezuelans are > fleeing > Chavez's regime, with many coming or wanting to come to the U.S. > > Not all are Venezuelans, however. Many Cuban doctors there (from the > oil for > doctors agreement between Castro and Chavez) are also defecting. Many > have > already made it to Florida apparently. Who can blame them? > In his movie "Sicko" did Democrat Michael Moore disclose that Cuban > doctors > under Castro make only about $15 a month under Cuba's government-run > medicaid? America's stockexhange naturally rises when the dollar falls, well except where it falls and Bush is in power then the DOW stagnates (or as we like to say goes sideways). Fact is money reflects value, in product, services, property etc, but is always a facade-proxy for real wealth. The real wealth of a skillled artisan, or the management ability of the executive, or the piece of land. The money can become worthless, a person is still skilled when unemployed, a piece of land still is a piece of land, money is however just over rated confetti. For all the ills of socialism an attack on it is facile with statistics and the 'monetry' equation. But hey Americans don't understand socialism since they so readily embrace the collectivist ideals of jesus freaks which are essentially the same. Quote
Guest Igor The Terrible Posted July 18, 2007 Posted July 18, 2007 On Jul 17, 12:35 pm, Clint Hunter <cicer...@rogers.com> wrote: > So much for all the negativity from Marxists, Democrats, anarchists > and other > anti-capitalists. I <snip> bunch of mindless hooey! Yeah...we'll see how long you'll be preaching your capitalist "gospel" once it goes belly up and society breaks down into anarchy. I bet you yo-yoes will blame it on the socialists. For the record, people in Cuba are not dying in the streets because they do not have access to health care. Almost 2/5 of our population is either uninsured or under insured...and you call this a superior system? Dude, go sit in the shade somewhere and drink lots of water and take a salt pill. Quote
Guest Governor Swill Posted July 19, 2007 Posted July 19, 2007 On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 12:26:10 -0700, PerfectlyAble <jrhw@kol.co.nz> wrote: >Fact is money reflects value, in product, services, property etc, >but is always a facade-proxy for real wealth. The real wealth of >a skillled artisan, or the management ability of the executive, >or the piece of land. applause It's a point system, a representation only of ones real wealth. With a point system, wealth is not only what you have, it's what you have plus what you can get. Swill -- Picture of the day http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html Quote
Guest Governor Swill Posted July 19, 2007 Posted July 19, 2007 On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 12:26:10 -0700, PerfectlyAble <jrhw@kol.co.nz> wrote: >But hey Americans don't understand socialism since they >so readily embrace the collectivist ideals of jesus freaks >which are essentially the same. Jesus was the first true communist. Swill -- Picture of the day http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html Quote
Guest Ron Berthlot Posted July 19, 2007 Posted July 19, 2007 PerfectlyAble jrhw@kol.co.nz said: > America's stockexhange naturally rises when the dollar falls, well > except where it falls and Bush is in power then the DOW stagnates > (or as we like to say goes sideways). > > Fact is money reflects value, in product, services, property etc, > but is always a facade-proxy for real wealth. The real wealth of > a skillled artisan, or the management ability of the executive, > or the piece of land. The money can become worthless, a > person is still skilled when unemployed, a piece of land still > is a piece of land, money is however just over rated confetti. > For all the ills of socialism an attack on it is facile with > statistics > and the 'monetry' equation. > Canada's Ross John "anonymous@dizum.com" "Clint Hunter" "Clint Northwood" Lambourn knows as much about capitalism as can be expected from a career civil servant retired on a tax payer funded pension who pretends to be a capitalist, an American and a sane person. As demonstrated, not much at all. He's little more than a deluded alcoholic old kook. Quote
Guest Patriot Games Posted July 20, 2007 Posted July 20, 2007 "Bret Cahill" <BretCahill@aol.com> wrote in message news:1184786334.008694.271990@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com... > Looks like Wall Street likes high tax Clinton economic booms. You missed the key element. Socialized healthcare means an expense decrease for businesses, which is the functional equivalent to an across the board profit increase. Quote
Guest Patriot Games Posted July 20, 2007 Posted July 20, 2007 "Bret Cahill" <BretCahill@aol.com> wrote in message news:1184786121.609597.289880@o11g2000prd.googlegroups.com... > It's a pity Democrats didn't run anyone in 2000 to kill off the GOP > before Dumbya did it. I agree. Gore was an irelevant nobody. Still is. Quote
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