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Ya refresh yourself by looking at some of the ideas we came up with and will be implementing soon that are posted in the staff lounge. Its gotten pretty kick ass, and what I like the most is the members and even the GUESTS have been getting smarter and smarter, abit a couple dipshits. Hell, as of late, I don't even need to call on ANYBODY to behave. And some of the rebutals have become so complex, its hard to even think of a comeback without sounding like a total retard. I LOVE IT. If you look at the bottom of the index, you'll also see an average of 20+ members a day, and thats not counting guests. So hopefully you have come back to an EVEN BETTER version of GF, with better then ever members. Oh and, TY, & WB. . .

First thing I would do is improve economy on the home front and enact conservation tactics that work for everyone. I would enact the tax chart of ecology. I would lower even eliminate the tax on vehicles that can carry a 45 mpg+ EPA rating, and RAISE the tax on heavy duty vehicles. Not to be a tyrant to tell everyone what to drive, but to encourage conservation of our oil resources. If this is done, WORLD WIDE, oil demand will go down, thus the price of GAS will go down as a trickle effect, and thus the ozone will not be impacted as much either and the world will heal itself faster. Next order of business, I'd start pulling troops out of Iraq, not all, but ALOT, as a sign of GOOD FAITH in the people, regardless of terrorist activity which still exists. This is what the people want, this is why insurgency grows. A sign that you are willing to go will make a dramatic DROP in insurgency. Next, like it or not, I would make an example of the Abu Garahib<sp accused, as hell lets admit it, thay are all fucking guilty. This will send an even bigger message to Iraqi's As for North Korea, let the UN handle it. Show that we are not bullys of the world, and that we do not try to tell people what to do. But emphasize our alliances. Now how would YOU solve the clusterfuck? . .

Your out of your fucking mind, one bitch is enough for any guy to handle. . .

Ron Jeremy: SHE WANTED TO SEE MY BIG COCK. . .

My Mom: The chicken crossed the road because it was trying to put its mom on a guilt trip again for being abused by its father years ago and still holds her responsible. I think my mom needs to tell that bitch she talks to in the coffee shop to get therapy. Mom's got issues herself, gotta quit being a busy body. . .

Feel free to debate whatever you wish, someone will usually be around to argue with you. . .

Wouldn't Fidy cent say something like: "Mo fucka was runnin like a bitch till I popped a cap in his ass and fry'd em up in da Crisco

GEORGE W. BUSH: We don't really care why the chicken crossed the road. We just want to know if the chicken is on our side of the road or not. The chicken is either with us or it is against us. There is no middle ground here. AL GORE: I invented the chicken. I invented the road. therefore, the chicken crossing the road represented the application of these two different functions of government in a new, reinvented way designed to bring greater services to the American people. COLIN POWELL: Now at the left of the screen, you clearly see the satellite image of the chicken crossing the road. HANS BLIX: We have reason to believe there is a chicken, but we have not yet been allowed access to the other side of the road. MOHAMMED ALDOURI: (Iraq ambassador) The chicken did not cross the road. This is a complete fabrication. We don't even have a chicken. SADDAM HUSSEIN: This was an unprovoked act of rebellion and we were quite justified in dropping 50 tons of nerve gas on it. RALPH NADER: The chicken's habitat on the original side of the road had been polluted by unchecked industrialist greed. The chicken did not reach the unspoiled habitat on the other side of the road because it was crushed by the wheels of a gas-guzzling SUV. PAT BUCHANAN: To steal a job from a decent, hard-working American. RUSH LIMBAUGH: I don't know why the chicken crossed the road, but I'll bet it was getting a government grant to cross the road, and I'll bet someone out there is already forming a support group to help chickens with crossing-the-road syndrome. Can you believe this? How much more of this can real Americans take? Chickens crossing the road paid for by their tax dollars, and when I say tax dollars, I'm talking about your money, money the government took from you to build roads for chickens to cross. MARTHA STEWART: No one called to warn me which way that chicken was going. I had a standing order at the farmer's market to sell my eggs when the price dropped to a certain level. No little bird gave me any insider information. JERRY FALWELL: Because the chicken was gay! Isn't it obvious? Can't you people see the plain truth in front of your face? The chicken was going to the "other side. That's what they call it -- the other side. Yes, my friends, that chicken is gay. And, if you eat that chicken, you will become gay too. I say we boycott all chickens until we sort out this abomination that the liberal media whitewashes with seemingly harmless phrases like "the other side." DR. SEUSS: Did the chicken cross the road? Did he cross it with a toad? Yes, The chicken crossed the road, But why it crossed, I've not been told! ERNEST HEMINGWAY: To die. In the rain. Alone. MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR.: I envision a world where all chickens will be free to cross roads without having their motives called into question. GRANDPA: In my day, we didn't ask why the chicken crossed the road. Someone told us that the chicken crossed the road, and that was good enough for us. BARBARA WALTERS: Isn't that interesting? In a few moments we will be listening to the chicken tell, for the first time, the heart-warming story of how it experienced a serious case of molting and went on to accomplish its life-long dream of crossing the road. JOHN LENNON: Imagine all the chickens crossing roads in peace. ARISTOTLE: It is the nature of chickens to cross the road. KARL MARX: It was an historical inevitability. VOLTAIRE: I may not agree with what the chicken did, but I will defend to the death its right to do it. RONALD REAGAN: What chicken? CAPTAIN KIRK: To boldly go where no chicken has gone before. FOX MULDER: You saw it cross the road with your own eyes! How many more chickens have to cross before you believe it? SIGMUND FREUD: The fact that you are at all concerned that the chicken crossed the road reveals your underlying sexual insecurity. BILL GATES: I have just released eChicken 2003, which will not only cross roads, but will lay eggs, file your important documents, and balance your checkbook - and Internet Explorer is an inextricable part of eChicken. ALBERT EINSTEIN: Did the chicken really cross the road or did the road move beneath the chicken? BILL CLINTON: I did not cross the road with THAT chicken. What do you mean by chicken? Could you define chicken, please? COLONEL SANDERS: I missed one? . .

You get that in the adult world too. Instead of grades you get raises for doing a good job. Stress is there more because its not your fucking college scolorship that your looking forward too for doing well, its being able to care care of yourself and your spouse and however many kids you choose to have. As for sexual conductivity, oh please, you get to at least have the comedy thats involved with it all. Teenage boys are funny as hell to watch in there quest to "BAG DEM HO'S" Thats the time where you can either pussy whip em, or turn em in to assholes by the power of female persuasion. You get your fucking "EMO" group that in all reality, just wants pussy the easy way. Be all sensitive and shit. Your comeback is, "we can just be friends" and then add to that "every female has a gay friend" And what the hell you complaining about sex for, is it because you don't want it, or because too many say you've had it ?? You can't win either way, so they best possible solution when it comes to sex is do what you feel, not what someone else feels. Same thing with drugs. I never see any fucking hard tweaker offer to start someone on it, ah hell no, they want that shit for themselves. I've seen crackheads sniff the shit up off the floor when it dropped. All I could think was "SORRY FUCKERS". Yep, Tweek is the main drug of choice round here, I never can understand why anyone would purposely put a poison in there body just to feel the reaction of your body fighting the chemical away. That is what tweek is (I know people who make the shit, and it makes me sick, but I ain't no narc, long as they keep the shit away from me if I am at there house.) Its a poison, and that is what is giving the Tweek high, your body fighting the poison off. You might as well travel to Australia and let a Taipan tag ya once, I hear thats a hell of a buzz too. Then over in Cali you got your rave fucks who do there fucking K or X because its such a great high (supposedly) They can all burn in hell. Then you got your Potheads. Now potheads at least are a farely harmless group, they'll always catch you a buzz if they can spare it, but don't steal from people to buy weed. Anybody that says they are addicted to it should be slapped. Thats just another way of saying, they've smoked so much, they are now too lazy to get up and get a fucking job. Thats the trouble with weed, it makes you lazy, it makes you wake up the next day, not with a hangover, but a feeling of not having enough sleep, you get lazy, you call in for school, work, you tell your friends who don't do it to go on ahead and you'll catch up and then next thing you know you forgot where you were gonna go. I've put more chemicals in my body in my early 20's then there are in a fucking Dirty bomb. My 21st birthday, I fucking overdosed hard, my heart stopped and everything. I had some nice burn marks in my chest from getting the shock treatment from the paramedics. Woke up the next fucking day in the hospital with a tube down my nose wondering what the fuck happened, last I remember I was on my couch just fucking spinning everywhere, going in and out of conciousness...time flies by fast, then slow, then faster, then sweat, then cold, oh fuck was that a 21st birthday. Well anyway, back on topic, I used to say the same shit when I was that age, and it will probably be said till the end of time by all adults. Been there done that, teen life is SO MUCH BETTER any day. We can all rightfully say that because we were all teens once too. Just because fads and styles have changed doesn't mean the pressures and annoyances have. . .

Thats real good news, it allows this to in part be a flame forum, but still maintain a discussion forum and not worry about offending anybody as long as the bills are paid. I'm not worried at all about getting paid, I just wanna see a fucking decent debate site on the net for once. One that doesn't get overrun with assholes as membership swells. . .

I'll have to go with Petty too, he was my idol. Hes also the reason I love MOPAR !! And that famous 426 Hemi. . .

Yes with the mind power on this board, we could be major idea contributers to there line of satire shirts. They could do a custom GF Shirt for us to sell and promote, and we could promote them as well. also, when you first enter the site by www.bestdamngeneralforum.com entry is very very slow, but using bestdamngeneralforum.com its faster, might wanna check the DNS config on that. . .

. . http://www.tshirthell.com/affiliates.htm . . This is one of those sites we could ad out thats actually WORTH clicking. Ever look at some of there stuff ?? Its over the top, its sells good, and would probably be a site ALOT of our members would like anyway. AND , heres an idea how to intergrate it into the page. Use it (LINK TO THE PAGE/merchandise) as a default SIGNATURE for regular members, where as, premium may have a customized signature. I know there are currently members who have small pics in there signature, I'm sure this wouldn't interfere with the members experience in the site, or be annoying, plus it will be EVERYWHERE, and we could change the link according to the theme topic if there is a matching T-Shirt. Very descreet advertising that could pay off well. And best of all, NO POP UPS and will give the site a way to make money even if members don't wanna sign on premium. Also this might turn into an better way to price a premium membership. Less cost to a premium member. I can't remember if you said or not, are you gonna price premiums as yearly, or a one time thing? I'd ad it out with the assumption that its yearly, but if turn around is good on the shirts announce it at a 1 time fee. mailto:info@tshirthell.com http://www.tshirthell.com/press.htm . .

Did you guys notice its jumped from a couple a day to almost 12 a day within a months time. Just this morning, I noticed 6 more new ones overnight and still climbing. Might hit that 500 mark by say Wednesday or Thursday. Are we gaining ground or what ?? . .

I know what you mean, this is my busy time too. I have a nice stack of PC's to finish up on this week. I keep getting called into my PART TIME job all the time because of the kids always calling in, dammit, its almost starting to feel like work. I seen you had part of it setup already so I gave a bit of a spoiler, I figure anybody that half ass knows about bbs systems can figure it out, and the idiots can't. Suit me fine. I think I got a few of those kids shaking in there boots when I said I was gonna block the I.P. so NONE of them could get on. Matt on the otherhand, is a fucking retard. Unhappyandlively was right, I should have banned his ass from the beginning. Funny as hell all those kids messaging me when they seen there name in the "BEING WATCHED" list. Maybe they'll go kick Matts ass, that would be funny. Oh by the way, take away POST ICONS for guests too. as well as HTML HYPERLINKING. I put up a simple test for it in my sticky about virus removal. I'm thinking were gonna reach 500 by next week, but, how many of those are dead or abandoned accounts?? I'd wait till you get to 600 to adjust for this, then take the top 500 most recent. . .

I had no idea we were invading Australia. . .

Hows this for thought. What if a couple of the forums were designated by rank, where lower rank members posts can be optionally filtered out That way the junk posts by newbbies and lamers can be viewed by other members by choice. Or they have the option of only viewing responses from a set rank of members on up. That way when a member logs in to view a thread, they are not exposed to idiots or spam posts. And responses on there screen are cusomized to there liking. This would allow serious debaters to have serious rebutals, and lamers to post there comments too in a fight for rank to give them the privalege of debating in other posts. Along with the BANS idea, this will create a rank system of free speech that would make it possible for a regular member to assend up by relevant debate to participate in a Premium or rated debate without spending money. All they would need to do is prove to everyone else they are worthy by gaining rank points. . .

Heres something that would work, allow Premium members to ban members to the VISITORS room as a standard option, as well as regular members as a standard option, but let a standard members time out privalege only last 10 minutes, And can only be done by a Poll of 3 or less respondants) and can only do this to standard members. If a standard member has to get a 2 out of 3 voye at the poll, then himself, and the person he wants to ban can cancel out ech others vote, and have to rely on another members vote, or be sent into the "PISS POT" himself. Premiums can do this for say like 1-8 hours, so they can give members a time out without voting. Or allow silence restrictions too, where the premium member can block a member from responding to a post they had started. Or choose to accept regular members answers (pre approval) only by way of RANK system. This would mean redesigning the rank system to be based on FEEDBACK of other members. A way to let fellow posters say who is good at debating and who is lame. Low ranking idiots can always be subject to disposal into the GUEST lounge, which could be renamed to something else more catchy to the viewer. Like say, the "PISSED POT" The guest area "PISS POT" could be that dreaded area of BBS that goes back OLD SCHOOL style. NO HYPERLINKS, NO FONT OPTIONS (use terminal), no post editing options, total censorship on all words, etc..etc...you could pull off some pretty funny fights in the guest area and keep it clean and entice more members this way.Keeps your repetitive jerk bandwidth down too. And to be even funnier, you could make the "PISS POT" google news style posts where they have to click on the posters name to view the post response....something sarcastically cheesy that really sucks to use. Like say repeat bans by different members and not only one will result in I.P. being blocked. Then nobody come come in and reregister under another name. Unless they are at a different location. And like I said, only allow PREMIUM members to start a guest room topic. The end result, is your premium members will be paying you for the right to have a very relevant debate, while those of a lesser rank work to be included in Premium debates by way of member voting. Scum posters will be sucked into the "PISS POT" void by other members. Forcing them to post relevant posts in order to assend rank and privalege. Then you could make it even more interesting by allowing premium members the ability to buy the (GF) bucks for "X" amount of money to shut other premium members up to. Or some other form of a twist to the BBS system that lets someone pay you to be a Debating Bastard with all the money. AH I GOT IT !!!! STROKE, WHO HAS STROKE I got the bucks, I got the rank, I have stroke over you.. HA HA, I love it. You could even allow members to buy "MY 2 CENTS WORTH" type posting privlages for like say 50 post points for a buck. And can only use the money in posts where they qualify with the required rank, more dollars used will buy you a step higher into the rank needed. Like say, the post requires you have a rating of 65% or better and a 10 member approval to answer, you could use your "2 CENTS WORTH" against your rating by say 5 points each 2 cents used, so if you ranked 45%, you would need to use 4 of your "2 CENTS WORTH" points to equal a 65% or better ranking to respond to a poll. But what you would be doing is creating a chat world based on Power and Prestige, much like the real world, yet let the little guy have his say too. I'm having evil thoughts of this web page. Slap me. But creating controlled chaos is fun. Have you concidered a LIVE CHAT java app for Premium members that guests can't view, members can view, and only Premiums can use. It lets web surfers WINDOW SHOP at the start of the page, to some of the Chaos that goes down, It lets members have a taste of being a tad evil,It lets Premium members choose to debate on there own terms without stupid remarks from other wannabe members with a screen name. And the level required to participate in the site is kept in check at the door by debaters battling the way to the top,The members need to debate each other relevantly or face there own punishment. Only show like the last 10 posts in the "Piss Pot" for any given topic. Being banned to a forum where the only topics are those posted by Premium members, and are filtered and crummy, make some of the topics really far out too... Like [ ]Which came first, the chicken or the egg, [ ]Who do you think you are [ ]GET OVER IT [ ]It's not my your fault daddy touched you there. [ ]Talk to the hand. [ ]Reasons I need to get a life. Have them sticky as default rooms members can kick each other to.And rooms that Premiums can permanently ban members to until they pay to get back in. So the idea is like, the better you are at debating, the better your chat experience on the site will be, you'll get picture posting privlages for paying, I don't like the thumbnail idea. An Avatar,(regular member avatars can be picked and changed by premiums) Profile picture, Banning privlages, Auto rank assention, member modification options,permanent ban options in posts you start as to who can respond, lets them delete the BANNED persons post, closes posts to general public and lamers. Mixed up in this, is the idea that you can get people to fight amongst themselves in there race to rank into a bigger or better forum debate. Like say, you wanna get into that Nigger debate uncensored, then you better rank high, like a 8 or 9 with a 10 member approval (got to have ten members rank you first before you are given an official rank) or either be a premium member .or someone paying there 2 cents to get in on it. Otherwise your only allowed to debate in a moderated, uncensored manor in the regular debate forums that do not have the rank restriction. You could default Premiums only a 50% or better ranking block privalege, and charge them GF bucks to change the requirements, like a premiums 2 cents worth can buy him a 90% member approval only debate, and require the poster to have 100 or more posts. .

Yeah, I noticed a period of time where you could not even get the domain to come up. and I had no ping response to you either. I seen you were online when it happened so I figured you were rebooting or changing a forum option in the script.

ALSO, I think bringing them in from news groups is one of the better ideas. The COMMON net surfer does not use or know how to use the news group system or the BBS way either. I love the technology now compared to those pain in the ass days of college BBS and fucking KERMIT transfers. Its almost idiot friendly. I've done C++, Visual Basic, minor HTML, when I'm in the mood. Never really attempted to learn the scripting methods used now for making a page like this work, doesn't look to complex it seems. But anyways, I was thinking, what if you made it so posts in the GUEST fourm can only be started by MEMBERS (copy the post from a memeber forum onto guest forum ???) , That will keep out spam bots, and dipshits, will keep the opening topic a little more to anyones liking. PLUS, Only allow 1 response every 24 hours from any unregistered I.P. guest who is responding to a forum. That way they can't jump to other posts and respond UNLESS they first register, a guest teaser, and a membership incentive. If guests are able to only VIEW member posts in the other forums, and are BLOCKED from seeing profanity using privalege filters, another insentive to sign on.Also do not let a guest edit a post either, or allow guest HTML linking. You gotta let your GUESTS wanna get in on the fun for a reason. I know my son, who is somewhat autistic, is very good at surfing the net, if he entered the portal to this webpage by coming in from another page, he would see the spot where you type a user name and password, and will just type his own name, so there is no chance he would see any profanity or taboo subject matter that was filtered in the first place. Most anyone elses kids are the same way. You could very simply designate any given topic in a member forum as a TABOO SUBJECT MATTER forum(rated R, PG-13,E, or whatever kind of catchy rating system one could dream of.), and only allow a GUEST to see the Forum topic, and none of the posts until they register. So instead of doing heavy filtering on thousands of possible offensive terms, you simply block the post from guest view. And use the member forums as FILTERED for the CYBERMOM type programs. Protect your own ass on the cheap, for not much coding effort. . .

Britney Spears is still around ?? I thought she gave up making porn videos over 6 months ago. . .

Probably because her IMAGE is that of a 2 bit whore, and she has no real talent, can't hold a note, and her fame will be a 15 minute job like most other bubble gum bad girls these days. . .

Absolutely. And it is implemented everywhere around you. Its called controlled chaos. What is Anarchy but an absence of any common standard or practice. Break away from the "USUAL" rules until the new "ANARCHIST" rule is deemed a law, and therefore no longer anarchy. . .

How about this, for the VISITORS FORUM, allow ONLY premium members to start a discussion topic, and only allow 1 post per I.P. address in response to any topic. and also allow visitor to be able to VOTE in polls in ANY forum. Members get more privalegs, pretty much what is happening now, the power to debate not just respond, yet limited user options unless they are premium. You can increase sight participation and decrease all the stupid junk SPAM post at the same time.. As far as that goes, you could limit members HTML options like fonts and stuff to a basic few. And I'm thinking a chat client option for premium members with a java entry portal on the site to view the LIVE conversations taking place, but no ability to respond. Kind of, the higher you rank, the better the rewards, as far as posts are concerned, who says a paying member can't also be your buddy and help your reputation along to get a paying membership. Deffinitly way ahead future thinking, but this is something that should be thought of ahead of time to work out any coding quirks to make it all work for EVERYONES enjoyment. and EVERYONES participation, even passers by. Also have you seen there rules: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=1181862 Screw that, I say we can be more edgy and non restrictive in what can and can not be said, and still control the animals. Let the PISSED OFF in a person show, as well as there idiocys, and HUMILIATE THEM, and keep them in check while doing so. It keeps debates very very passionate. Notice MRIH and RIHAS. Seem to have found a subject they can agree on ?? Who'd a thunk it. . . . .

Did you see that suggestion of being able to change an enemys profile aspects ?? That would ROCK dude. Let people PAY to be dicks to someone else. Pay for the right to fuck with someone whos being moved to the IDOTS group. Kind of a NET TIMEOUT into the IDIOTS group where paying members get to rip your ass all they want with no moderation. Kinda like, let the paying guys JUMP the new guys and non paying members. We could have Polls as to whether this person should be moved to the idots group for punishment, or banned for a week or so. Paying members could do this at will without a Poll. I would suppose that would mean giving paying members restricted privaleges, like the ability to change NON PAYING (profile avatar, and name caption) members at will, and Paying members by fee. I.E. "I AM Hugh G. Rekshuns personal bitch" In turn, the board will start changing into a self moderating forum of paying members. And visitors who are eager to sign up to avenge themselves for that offensive avatar and silly quote by there name. Even if you get an asshole sign up and pay, big deal, thats still money in the bank, and we still have the power to moderate THERE sorry asses too, only bans for them could be like X amount of DAYS instead of hours, even though they have paid. Something fair, like 48 hours. Non paying members are easy to handle anyway, just ban there ass out. I say people will pay a premium to be evil, charge them a very very tiny fee to be a tad naughty and tear someone down. Put the noobs in there place as they come in. In time you will have people BEGGING to come in, thats where you can be PICKY about members and review there past post history before accepting there membership. (Dam, I really am a facist bastard). Kind of like saying to the world, hey this board is fun, but were not playing around when it come to what we talk about, were dead serious, but at the same time, lets everyone have a bit of fun flaming someone else... See what I'm saying ??? Thats what the animals want, then let em do it, and make em pay ya for it. Definitly would need a paying members only forum, but I would hold off on that until you get a subscription base that covers bandwidth fees, then re-introduce that into the mix as NEW PERKS, This also gives you a way to gateway entry if needed and to filter for parents worried about there childrens surfing habits. I like the idea that guests can only respond in the GUEST forum, But some of these forums can be devided out and renamed better to suit the level of visitor to the site. Like GUESTS can not access PAYING MEMBER Forums, but can view MEMBER forums.MEMBERS can view Paying members forums, but not respond. Paying member forums can be shifted when the time comes to the forum where all hell can break loose.member forums are the moderated ones, then of course the snip and clip daily Guest forum (Heavy on the censorship filters there).Mmembers are uncencored as are the posts they can see. Thats creating an inner family of members and letting the public in on the fun, something AOL, won't do...THINK ABOUT IT !!! Have you seen the number of views and responses that have been coming in lately. Look back at the first few pages with very very little feedback or response, then compare it to the last couple of recent pages. DAMN are people joining up left and right. And the crazy part is even the IDIOTS are getting somewhat smarter. Matt (Budda49er) is very annoying but theres a hint of intelligence peeking threw his childish attitude. Thats why I haven't banned him. And that other new guy who posts in BLUE (YUCK) seems like hes pretty damn smart too. . . Another thing, you can have a CLOSED forum of past call out wars and the deciding victor according to the polls. That Poll I did, with budda49er calling out Hugh, and that Entire post in itself was just FUCKING WAY OUT FUNNY. http://Off Topic Forum.com/t5306.html And it stayed away from the Racial/Religious subject, and EVERYONE got in on it !!! . . Now my question is, if you have no sponsors where the hell is everyone coming in from?? Thats just wierd. I know in Google it needs to be a direct hit of whatpissesyouoff to show up first, otherwise it doesn't, how are you promoting, I wanna take a look at that. I think we can keep ANY form of forum ads away, even the little ones if we can figure that out first, THEN go for a bigger ad sponsor. Also have you concidered maybe modifying you meta-tag a bit more to include a couple more key words, like say PISSED, or PISSED OFF. Something along that lines that will pick up in the search engines, yet keep Parental lock software happy. The disclaimer being that by agreeing to become a regular member, you will be subjected to extreme subject matter and content, and agree to the aforementioned TORTURE tactics used by paying members. Fuck it, while were brain storming, lets just turn this into the AOL you always wanted. I can invision a million plus membership of a new Chat client for EVERYBODY APO AMERICA PISSED OFF. Exclusive membership to some of the most pissed off intelligent minds of our time.And a free look inside for even non members, and teasers for members to be a paying member. CONTROLLED CHAOS MY FRIEND, CONTROLLED CHAOS. Make the changes very slow as the site grows...gotta get people to SEE the edgy debates first before you move things around. . . If you wanted to look at it from a chat client perspective, you could give members some basic...FLAME TOSSING tools, and non members no tools. Paid membership would have privaledges as well. But for now, I would let ANYBODY be a paid member and start restricting after you have established a better payed membership community. Say 1,000 . I'm gonna cancel the BBJihad idea, Muslims are very hard to find. I'm going to help you focus on this a little more. . .