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  1. No it would not transfer to government bodies. Equal protection under the law prohibits government and its employees while doing their duties from discriminating. If you choose to work in the public sector you can not discriminate in your working hours. If you work for the private sector you should apply your employers standards. If you work for a restaurant and the employer does not want you to serve a certain ethnic group then you should discriminate or quit. Similarly if your employer requires you to serve everyone regardless of race, religion or creed that is your duty. Since it is the employers private property being utilized he should be able to pick his clientele. Just like you can discriminate who you allow in your private home. It is a principle our founding fathers recognized as the right of association. A principle ignored by both Jim Crow laws and many civil rights laws. You should have the right to control who accesses your private property, a basic fundamental right. Yep, there will be some clubs, restaurants, etc. that serve a niche racist market. I'd rather be banned from eating at a restaurant than have someone tamper with my food.
  2. Israel is our prime source for dill pickles.
  3. He must be a damn Jew! Put him in the oven!
  4. Where I have problems with civil rights laws is when they limit the individual's freedom to discriminate. If I am a employer I should have the right to hire and fire anyone I please for any reason including because I don't like there color, gender or religion. If I am a landlord I should have the right also to discriminate, similarly if I am a business owner. Individual liberty includes the liberty to discriminate. The free market will keep discrimination to a minimum. I really feel that with a truly limited government government would not even need to be in the civil union business and that individuals could make whatever contract they wish between themselves defining their relationship. What I struggle with is whether or not gay marriage is a state issue or a federal issue.I am leanig toward a federal one based on Loving vs. Virginia the USSC decision that ended state ban of interracial marriages. The final arbitrator, in the absence of a federal amendment, will be the USSC.
  5. There is no doubt that the gay agenda, as is the agenda of all so-called civil rights groups, goes beyond equal protection under the law. IMO, the government should only be in the business of civil unions. Marriage should be in the religious sphere. The fact is the sanctity of marriage has already been destroyed by heterosexuals; whatever happened to until death do you part? Our nation sprung from the philosophies of classical liberals. At the core of classical liberalism is the belief in individual liberty. People should have the right to engage in alternative lifestyles providing all parties involved are of legal age. You rightfully understand the stupidity of criminalizing marijuana. You do not understand the stupidity of criminalizing sodomy. I don't smoke weed or engage in sodomy myself but I believe that under the principle of maximizing the liberty of the individual that neither should be criminalized. When our nation was founded the principle of individual liberty basically only applied to straight white males. The seed was planted however. Over the last 230 years women and people of color have achieved equal protection under the law (in fact I would argue a bit more than that). When you allow government to attack one man's individual preferences you sooner or later attack us all. I can't legally drink that 24 ounce Bud when I am coming from work. You can't light up a joint in your own home. A bar owner. in many areas of the country, cannot establish his own smoking policy. Until recently you could not take it up the ass, if you so wished, in your own bedroom. I see no chance of legalized pedophilia. The ACLU will take about any cause. What can I say..they are pinko-commie child molester advocates and , yes, it seems to me that pedophilia is more common in the gay community and gays would be smart to rid themselves of groups such as NAMBLA. This does not mean gays with no interest in children should be penalized. If anything society seems to be taking a tougher stand on pedophilia as reflected by laws and attitudes. Nowadays ya don't just keep your kids away from Uncle Bubba because he has a little problem. Uncle Bubba goes to jail. I agree with the correction of spelling errors as a piss poor debate tactic. I only do that when some jackass corrects another's error while making one or more of his own. This ain't a term paper. I don't tend to spell check and proof read.
  6. MILTON FRIEDMAN "The preservation of freedom is the protective reason for limiting and decentralizing governmental power. But there is also a constructive reason. The great advances of civilization, whether in architecture or painting, in science or in literature, in industry or agriculture, have never come from centralized government." "Government power must be dispersed. If government is to exercise power, better in the county than in the state, better in the state than in Washington. If I do not like what my local community does, be it in sewage disposal, or zoning, or schools, I can move to another local community, and though few may take this step, the mere possibility acts as a check. If I do not like what Washington imposes, I have few alternatives in this world of jealous nations." "A common objection to totalitarian societies is that they regard the end as justifying the means. Taken literally, this objection is clearly illogical. If the end does not justify the means, what does? But this easy answer does not dispose of the objection; it simply shows that the objection is not well put. To deny that the end justifies the means is indirectly to assert that the end in question is not the ultimate end, that the ultimate end is itself the use of the proper means. Desirable or not, any end that can be attained only by the use of bad means must give way to the more basic end of the use of acceptable means." "It is a striking historical fact that the development of capitalism has been accompanied by a major reduction in the extent to which particular religious, racial, or social groups have operated under special handicaps in respect of their economic activities; have, as the saying goes, been discriminated against. The substitution of contract arrangements for status arrangements was the first step toward the freeing of the serfs in the Middle Ages. The preservation of Jews through the Middle Ages was possible because of the existence of a market sector in which they could operate and maintain themselves despite official persecution. Puritans and Quakers were able to migrate to the New World because they could accumulate the funds to do so in the market despite disabilities imposed on them in other aspects of their life." - "Capitalism and Freedom" "The high rate of unemployment among teenagers, and especially black teenagers, is both a scandal and a serious source of social unrest. Yet it is largely a result of minimum wage laws. We regard the minimum wage law as one of the most, if not the most, antiblack laws on the statute books." "Selfishness is not myopic selfishness. It is whatever it is that interests the participants, whatever they value, whatever goals they pursue. The scientist seeking to advance the frontiers of his discipline, the philantrophist seeking to bring comfort to the needy, the missionary seeking to convert infidels to the true faith - all are pursuing their interests, as they see them, as they judge them by their own values. " (p.18) "Currently more than 40% of our income is disposed of on our behalf by government at federal, state and local levels combined. One of us suggested a new national holiday, "Personal Independence Day" - that day in the year when we stop working to pay for the expenses of the government, and start working to pay for the items we severally and individually choose in light of our own needs and desires. In 1929, that holiday would have come on Feb 12; today it would come about May 30; if present trends were to continuel it would coincide with July 4. " (p.56 [from Newsweek]) "I define Equality of Opportunity as the following : Equality before the Law. It is a career open to the talents. No arbitary obstacles should prevent people from achieving those positions for which their talents fit them and which their values lead them to seek. Not birth, nationality, colour, religion, sex, nor any other irrelevent characteristic should determine the opportunitiues that are open to a person - only his abilities. Equality of opportunity, like personal equality, is not inconsistent with liberty, on the contrary, it is an essential component of liberty. If some people are denied access to particular positions in life for which they are qualified simply because of their ethnic background, colour, or religion, that is an interference with their right to "Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness." "Industrial progress, mechanical improvement, all of the great wonders of the modern era have meant relatively little to the wealthy. The rich in Ancient Greece would have benefitted hardly at all from modern plumbing : running servants replaced running water. Television and radio? The Patricians of Rome could enjoy the leading musicians and actors in their home, could have the leading actors as domestic retainers. Ready-to-wear clothing, supermarkets - all these and many other modern developments woul have added little to their life. The great achievements of Western Capitalism have redounded primarily to the benefit of the ordinary person. These achievements have made available to the masses conveniences and amenities that were previously the exclusive perogative of the rich and powerful." "A society that puts equality - in the sense of equality of outcome - ahead of freedom will end up with neither equality or freedom. The use of force to achieve equality will destroy freedom. On the other hand, a society that puts freedom first will, as a happy by-product, end up with both greater freedom and greater equality. Freedom means diversity but also mobility. It preserves the opportunity for today's less well off to become tomorrow's rich, and in the process, enables almost everyone, from top to bottom, to enjoy a richer and fuller life." "The reign of tears is over. The slums will be only a memory. We will turn our prisons into factories and our jails into storehouses and corncribs. Men will walk upright now, women will smile, and the children will laugh. Hell will be forever for rent." That is how Billy Sunday, noted evangelist and leading crusader aginst Demon Rum, greeted the onset of Prohibition in 1920, enacted in a burst of moral righteousness at the end of the First World War. That episode is a stark reminder of where drives to protect us from ourselves can lead. Prohibition was imposed for our own good. Alcohol is a dangerous substance. More lives are lost each year from alcohol than from all the dangerous substances the FDA controls put together. But where did Prohibtion lead? New prisons and jails had to be built to house the criminals spawned by converting the drinking of spirits into a crime against the state. Al Capone, Bugs Moran became notorious for their exploits - murder, extortion, hijacking, bootlegging.Who were their customers? Respectable citizens who would never themselves have approved or engaged in, the activites that Al Capone and his fellow gangsters made infamous. They simply wanted a drink. In order to have a drink, they had to break the law. Prohbition didnt stop drinkin. It did convert a lot of otherwise law-obedient citizens into lawbreakers. It did suppress many of the disciplinary forces of the market that ordinarily protect the consumer from shoddy, adulterated, and dangerous products. It did corrupt the minions of the law and create a decadent moral climate. It did not stop the consumption of alcohol. "If the government is to try and ban private consumption of alcohol and tobacco, it must surely ban such activities as hang-gliding, skiing, rock-climbing and so on. Where should it stop? Rugby? American Football? Ice Hockey? Insofar as the government has information not generally available about the merits or demerits of the items we ingest or the activities we engage in, let it give us the information. But let it leave us free to choose what chances we want to take with our own lives." - Free To Choose "The long-range sloution to high unemployment is to increase the incentive for ordinary people to save, invest, work, and employ others. We make it costly for employers to employ people; we subsidize people not to go to work We have a system that increasingly taxes work and subsidizes nonwork." - article in US News & World Report (March, 1977) "Inflation is taxation without legislation." - Milton Friedman "I bet you anything I could destroy Milton Friedman in a debate about economics — so long as the audience was comprised of five year olds." - Jonah Goldberg, "National Review" "When the United States was formed in 1776, it took 19 people on the farm to produce enough food for 20 people. So most of the people had to spend their time and efforts on growing food. Today, it's down to 1% or 2% to produce that food. Now just consider the vast amount of supposed unemployment that was produced by that. But there wasn't really any unemployment produced. What happened was that people who had formerly been tied up working in agriculture were freed by technological developments and improvements to do something else. That enabled us to have a better standard of living and a more extensive range of products." "Had drugs been decriminalized, crack would never have been invented and there would today be fewer addicts... The ghettos would not be drug-and-crime-infested no-man's lands... Colombia, Bolivia and Peru would not be suffering from narco-terror, and we would not be distorting our foreign policy because of it." .
  7. The government that governs best governs least. Society should leave consenting adults alone.
  8. More quotes from Milton: "I am a limited-government libertarian." -- Milton Friedman in a 1991 speech "Every friend of freedom... must be as revolted as I am by the prospect of turning the United States into an armed camp, by the vision of jails filled with casual drug users and of an army of enforcers empowered to invade the liberty of citizens on slight evidence." -- "An Open Letter to [Drug Czar] Bill Bennett," The Wall Street Journal (September 7, 1989)
  9. And disdain as distain.
  10. The fact is gayness is almost certainly a combination of nature and nurture. It ain't one or the other.
  11. So you are too fucking stupid to understand the difference between actions between consenting adults and similar actions between an adult and a child? What can you expect from someone who spells tolerance tollerance.
  12. RIP Milton, Thank you for being the strongest voice for liberty in the last half of the 20th Century and the beginning of the 21st. 300 million Americans and 5+ Billion humans owe you a great debt.
  13. Well I love her But I love to fish I spend all day out on this lake And hell is all I catch Today she met me at the door Said I would have to choose If I hit that fishin' hole today She'd be packin' all her things And she'd be gone by noon Well I'm gonna miss her When I get home But right now I'm on this lakeshore And I'm sittin' in the sun I'm sure it'll hit me When I walk through that door tonight That I'm gonna miss her Oh, lookie there, I've got a bite Now there's a chance that if I hurry I could beg her to stay But that water's right And the weather's perfect No tellin' what I might catch today Well I'm gonna miss her When I get home But right now I'm on this lakeshore And I'm sittin' in the sun I'm sure it'll hit me When I walk through that door tonight That I'm gonna miss her Oh, lookie there, I've got a bite Yeah, I'm gonna miss her Oh, lookie there, I've got a bite
  14. As much as Hillary annoys me I would have to answer probably not.
  15. Ya know it's true love when ya swap chaws while kissing.
  16. I've found that women are more receptable to kissing and a good licking if you take the chewing tobaccy out before romantic interludes.
  17. Y'all really take this forum stuff too seriously.
  18. No.........
  19. This is even worse than those pictures of that 100 year old porn model.
  20. Cain't say I learned much after 26 years of marriage but here is a couple tips. 1) Don't take her to McD's for your anniversary 2) Don't buy her power tools on her birthday. I learned these lessons the hard way.
  21. Used to be 6'1 185. Added 20 lbs of stomach muscle since then.
  22. I also love it when them vain males wrap their sports car around a tree.
  23. Michael Savage is the smartest guy on radio.
  24. A true anarchist would understand how someone can not support the minimum wage. A Marxist does not. In the real world commie boy is a Marxist. In his fantasy world, where everyone is a Marxist, he is an anarchist. He is a fool who actually thinks others are stupid enough to believe Lenin is the cause of all the calamnities which have struck true socialist nations (nations that make a strong attempt to have the state control productive assets). He is an ignoramous. Did not know Ashcroft was appointed before 9/11, a total fool.
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