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This is interesting.

Ya caint have an internet debate without at least one referrence to Hitler by a left-wing loony.

Probably, not. The little Shiite girls would still be in the rape rooms though. Uncivilized people can't be civilized easily.

What you don't understand is that government is, by it's very nature, incompetent. the loony left always sees conspiracies when actually it is just fuck ups.

There is a bit of difference between acknowledging politicians will put their spin on things and arguing that anyone, besides fanatical Muslims, were behind 9/11.

But, the killers did fast between sunrise and sunset.

Better dead than Fred.--Joe McCarthy

Let's look at a scientific poll. Looks like about an equal amount blame Clinton. I am sure most of these people are blaming the administrations for poor intelligence or failure to take certain actions, not engineering the events of 9/11. Do ya think Billy boy may have been behind it? Terrorist attacks are inevitable...as long as we keep sticking our noses in other people's business.

If GW had known about 9/11 in advance he would have been taking advantage of photo ops at ground zero instead of flying all over the country looking like a wimp.

So why did the followers of Marx i.e. Lenin, Mao. Pot, Castro result to tolitarianism when they came to power? A simple question to answer. Let me quote Marx; Private property is what our founding fathers labeled a natural right. In fact the primary purpose of government is to protect lives and property. Wherever property rights are weak you will find widespread poverty. People will always desire private property that is why tolitarian means are needed to severely restrict property rights. Marx's ideas require tolitarian means to carry it out. Let us contrast Marx's quote with two of Locke's One man's ideas led to prosperity and liberty the other's to poverty and slavery. Good intentions be damned it was Marx who stated "The road to hell is paved with good intentions." One of the rare times he was correct on anything.

You are truly ignorant of economics. The vast majority of working adults make more than the minimum wage. Once again I ask you...Would you support a minimum wage of $200 an hour. Let me tell you why you should not. It would result in massive unemployment and inflation. The effect of any effective minimum wage would be inflation and unemployment. The reason minimum wage increases have never resulted in excessive inflation and employment is there has never been an effective minimum wage increase. The minimum wage has always been lower than what the vast majority of working adults earn. In other words the free market has already raised the wages of adults then stinking pinko liberals come in and try to claim their little fucking minimum wage bills have created the increased wages. Of course you are stupid when inferring lower wages would reduce competition. Lower wages reduce barriers to entry and therefore increase competition. Please..educate yourself. I am tired of debating with ignoramouses. Sadly, our minimum wage laws have harmed the most vulnerable workers, Minimum Wage Harms Entry-Level Workers

Yep, they are brainwashed into believing government interventions in the free market such as OSHA, the minimum wage, the Civil Rights Act of 1965 are neccessary, This is done by such actions as teaching the robber baron myth to impressionable youngsters.

All I am saying is there are sexy sixteen year olds and to find a sixteen year old sexually attractive is normal. To pursue that attraction, in our society, unlike Japan's, is not. My usual thought when seeing a sexy sixteen year old is..I'm glad I ain't her father. I actually thought the Republicans actions throughout the Jones?Lewinsky fiasco was horrible. The Jones case would have been quickly thrown out was it not for political manipulations.

People should realize that government is inefficient by nature and vote to keep as much of their money away from government as possible.

Slavery was oppression. Voluntary labor was not oppressed anymore than someone born with no legs is crippled. Let me explain this verrrry sloooowllllee. I reeeealize youe education in free market economics is limited. The pie was only so big. PIECES OF THE PIE COULD ONLY BE A CERTAIN SIZE. AS TECHNOLOGIES IMPROVED AND LABOR BECAME MORE EFFICIENT THE PIE GREW BIGGER. NOW THE LABORER COULD HAVE A BIGGER PIECE. Maybe this will help. Would you favor a minimum wage increase to $200 an hour?

Everything is race with you, ain't it? The point is Galveston and San Francisco managed to rebuild with very minimal federal assistance. This was before modern liberalism turned a nation of pioneers into a bunch of dependent pansies.

It was a world where goods were much scarcer. Only after capitalism created more goods could better working conditions and higher wages be given. The history of the industrial revolution shows that individuals quite voluntarily leave their farms for factory labor. Two willing parties agree then there is no exploitation. Exploitation exists only where government coercion exists. Come on, you stated you are an anarchist. Don't you understand this? Less government is better. Stop being a fool. Drop Das Kapital pick up Free To Choose by Milton Friedman. It would be a good start in you re-education. I realize you are a victim of our public school system that teaches myths such as the robber baron scenario as fact.

The federal government did not do a hell of a lot for the San Francisco quake victims of 1906 or the Galveston hurricane victims of 1900. Some of them whining Katrina victims are still getting free rent.

There was never any vast exploitation. Capitalism was not as efficient, nor had as much capital to work, with as it does today. Those who labor voluntarily are not exploited (the pinko commie's favorite word). I suggest everyone read THE MYTH OF THE ROBBER BARONS by Burton W. Folsom What is funny is fucktards who are too stupid to realize that the empowered followers of Marx always form tolitarian states.

Exploitation..it is the pinko commies favorite term whenever their is an inequality. Regardless of the reason for that inequality. The fact is all empowered commies,e.g. Lenin, Mao, Castro, Pot, inevitably grossly violate the civil liberties of their citizens. I don't see the same level of gross civil liberties being violated by the followers of Locke. This is because the modern liberals e.g. Mao, Stalin, Pot, Kennedy, Kerry, unlike the classical liberals do not understand that rights to private property is a civil right and history tells us that when this basic civil right is violated all civil rights are in jeopardy. Ya would think if them Mexicans were being so badly exploited they would stop coming here.

That says it all folks. I suggesr reading Adam Smith's "Wealth of Nations" instead.

I think our boy, TooStupidToPost, has revealed he is a communist. Communism, as envisioned by Marx, is when the state withers away. Of course everyone is then supposed to work together in brotherly love. There is little that is rational in Marx's writings. When private property rights are abolished civil liberties soon follow. The pinko-commie attack on Christianity goes back to Marx. States cannot have absolute power where religion is allowed to exist. The so-called "opiate of the masses" helped lead the downfall of the tyranny in Poland and the eventual downfall of the USSR. The all-powerful state don't want another force tugging at the proletariat. Oddly, so-called Communists believe the state must get bigger and bigger until some majical moment appears and the state implodes and somehow produces economic cooperation among all. You know ya got a left-wing nutcase folks whenever you see the words bigot, exploitation, Ashcroft and a reference to some FOX News or talk radio persona frequently utilized.

Go back to your anti-Christian bigotry. The Patriot Act was passed by a vote of 98-1. By your definitions Abe and Franklin were arch conservatives due to their infringements on civil liberties. I am a classical liberal, not a modern "liberal" a term stolen by the socialists. Go back to your pinko-commie world where everyone should be equal except them damn Christians.

We all know that every 16 year old is dumber than a Ritz cracker...right, JW.

That's why I just call them all beaners.