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  1. hugo

    VA shooting

    Yes, amazing how Iraqi insurgents are having so much succes mainly with guns and improvised explosives. I am sure Americans, under the stress of a tyrannical government, could do the same. Jhony seems to think we have no need for a constitution. Our society is so advanced that we no longer need a constitution. Actually, we have been losing rights for nearly a hundred years thanks to unconstitutional laws. We had to pass an amendment to prohibit alcohol... why are federal drug laws constitutional? The simple answer is they are not under any rational interpretation of our constitution. Due to the destruction of our constitution no longer is a man free to choose what he does with his own body. Due to the destruction of the constitution..no longer do whites and asians have equal protection under the law. Due to the destruction of the constitution...your home can be taken on a whim. Government tyranny is already here. Let us keep our weapons.
  2. hugo

    VA shooting

    Someone needs to tell the insurgents in Iraq this.
  3. hugo

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    I am sure the Germans felt the same way in 1928.
  4. hugo

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    Homicide rates US from 1991 -2000 notice a greater than 40% decline despite no federal gun buyback program. Assuming the gun buyback program was responsible for Australia's similar drop in homicides is just that--an assumption. Let us remember that 55+% of them 30K gun deaths are suicides and that Australia has a higher suicide rate than the US and Japan (which has few guns) a much higher suicide rate than either the US or Australia. Hitler confiscated the Jews guns before he rounded them up into concentration camps. The purpose of the 2nd Amendment (as is the rest of the Bill of Rights) is protection from federal tyranny
  5. While we are on quotes: Barry Goldwater We had our chance in 64
  6. The steady lifting of 12, 16 and 24 oz. weights is paying off.
  7. http://www.sweetness-light.com/archive/newsweeks-1975-article-about-the-coming-ice-age Won't get fooled again.
  8. The dear wife before using Phantom's line of beauty products. http://www.mrc.org/stillshots/2003/cronkite062303.jpg
  9. Ain't everybody except me and RO?
  10. Them filapinas have strange names.
  11. hugo

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    Yep, the ole university study. As if universities, are not , by and large, centers of modern liberalism, as oppossed to the classical liberalism of our founding fathers. Basic statistics: an initial sample size of a mere 500 is a bit small to conclusively conclude anything.
  12. http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/rightsandfreedoms/a/eminentd.htm Hell, the government can seize your home at any time.
  13. Of course, the lefttards are fuckin' up even more.
  14. http://Off Topic Forum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1413&stc=1&d=1177806528 Myself explaining to Spencer why we had his nuts cut off. The wife (age 47) after using Phantom's line of beauty products.
  15. Wanna dese days ill figure how to post a image.
  16. hugo

    VA shooting

    Me too. I frequently consume a 24 oz Bud on the way home from work. Government busybodies have created a nation of criminals.
  17. hugo

    VA shooting

    Buyback has no effect on murder rate Matthew Moore October 24, 2006 HALF a billion dollars spent buying back hundreds of thousands of guns after the Port Arthur massacre had no effect on the homicide rate, says a study published in an influential British journal. The report by two Australian academics, published in the British Journal of Criminology, said statistics gathered in the decade since Port Arthur showed gun deaths had been declining well before 1996 and the buyback of more than 600,000 mainly semi-automatic rifles and pump-action shotguns had made no difference in the rate of decline. The only area where the package of Commonwealth and State laws, known as the National Firearms Agreement (NFA) may have had some impact was on the rate of suicide, but the study said the evidence was not clear and any reductions attributable to the new gun rules were slight. "Homicide patterns (firearm and non-firearm) were not influenced by the NFA, the conclusion being that the gun buyback and restrictive legislative changes had no influence on firearm homicide in Australia," the study says. In his first year in office, the Prime Minister, John Howard, forced through some of the world's toughest gun laws, including the national buyback scheme, after Martin Bryant used semi-automatic rifles to shoot dead 35 people at Port Arthur. Although furious licensed gun-owners said the laws would have no impact because criminals would not hand in their guns, Mr Howard and others predicted the removal of so many guns from the community, and new laws making it harder to buy and keep guns, would lead to a reduction in all types of gun-related deaths. One of the authors of the study, Jeanine Baker, said she knew in 1996 it would be impossible for years to know whether the Prime Minister or the shooters were right. "I have been collecting data since 1996 … The decision was we would wait for a decade and then evaluate," she said. The findings were clear, she said: "The policy has made no difference. There was a trend of declining deaths that has continued." Dr Baker and her co-author, Samara McPhedran, declared their membership of gun groups in the article, something Dr Baker said they had done deliberately to make clear "who we are" and head off any possible criticism that they had hidden relevant details. The significance of the article was not who had written it but the fact it had been published in a respected journal after the regular rigorous process of being peer reviewed, she said. Politicians had assumed tighter gun laws would cut off the supply of guns to would-be criminals and that homicide rates would fall as a result, the study said. But more than 90 per cent of firearms used to commit homicide were not registered, their users were not licensed and they had been unaffected by the firearms agreement. Dr Baker said many more lives would have been saved had the Government spent the $500 million on mental health or other programs rather than on destroying semi-automatic weapons. She believed semi-automatic rifles should be available to shooters, although with tight restrictions such as those in place in New Zealand. The director of the NSW Bureau of Crime Statistics, Dr Don Weatherburn, said he was not surprised by the study. He said it showed "politicians would be well advised to claim success of their policies after they were evaluated, not before". HANDGUN CONTROL, INC. ATTEMPTS TO MYTHOLOGIZE SECOND AMENDMENT HISTORY MYTH 1: The Second Amendment was not crafted with the same breadth of language as the other Amendments. Instead, this Amendment begins by stating clearly its limited purpose: the preservation of "well regulated" state militia forces. FACT: Unlike certain indefinite rights recognized by the courts (e.g., abortion), the Second Amendment uses broad and explicit language. The introductory clause of the Second Amendment contains precatory language. The subordinate clause's precatory language in no way limits the amendment's sweeping command that "the right of the people to keep and bear shall not be infringed." Akil Amar, Professor of Law at Yale University and author of The Bill of Rights as a Constitution, 100 Yale, (1990) has written: "The states' rights reading puts great weight on the word `militia', but this word appears only in the Amendment's subordinate clause. The ultimate right to keep and bear arms belongs to `the people' not `the states.' As the language of the Tenth Amendment shows, these two are of course not identical when the constitution means `states' it says so. Thus as noted above, `the people' at the core of the Second Amendment are the same `people' at the heart of the Preamble and the First Amendment, namely citizens." MYTH 2: The original colonial militia did not include everyone. Rather it included able-bodied adult males between the ages of 18 and 45. The militia was always an organized state-sponsored military force, not simply an ad hoc collection of armed citizens. FACT: Founding Father George Mason supplied the response to this fantasy: "I ask, Who are the Militia? They consist now of the whole people, except a few public officers." A decade ago in his book That Every Man Be Armed, attorney and former law professor Stephen P. Halbrook offered gun prohibitionists a challenge they have yet to accepted. Halbook wrote: "In recent years it has been suggested that the Second Amendment protects the `collective' right of states to maintain militias, while it does not protect the right of `the people' to keep and bear arms. If anyone entertained this notion in the period during which the Constitution and Bill of Rights were debated and ratified, it remains one of the most closely guarded secrets of the 18th century, for no known writing surviving from the period between 1787 and 1791 states such a thesis." MYTH 3: Federal Law distinguishes between the organized militia (the National Guard) and the unorganized militia. The Second Amendment right to bear arms belongs to the organized or, to use its own words, "well regulated" militia. FACT: The framers provide a response to this myth. A proposed Bill of Rights, in Roger Sherman's handwriting, would have provided for a militia for the states, but it had no guarantee that "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." It was rejected. Instead, the broad language of what became the Second Amendment, with its command that "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed," was adopted. MYTH 4: Possession of a weapon is not constitutionally protected by the fact that it could in some scenario be used by the state militia. Rather the possession and use of the weapon must be connected with active service in the state militia. FACT: The real myth is that the Second Amendment does not guarantee a private right to keep and bear arms. The framers knew how to use the King's English. People on active service in the military do not need a constitutional guarantee to carry guns while on duty. The most repressive regimes on earth allow members of the military to carry guns while on duty. The Second Amendment commands that "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." This guarantees the right to keep and bear arms for self-defense and for communal defense. MYTH 5: U.S. v. Verdugo-Urquidez was not a Second Amendment case at all. It was a Fourth Amendment case. It does not address the meaning of the Second Amendment right to bear arms. FACT: The myth is that the decision is irrelevant to the Second Amendment. Verdugo-Urquidez focused on what the word "people" means in the Fourth Amendment. The court was compelled to canvas the Bill of Rights. The court held that the word "people" has the same meaning in the First, Second, Fourth, Ninth, and Tenth Amendments, i.e., it is an individual right. MYTH 6: In Perpich v. Department of Defense the court held that members of the National Guard, when not in federal service, "continue to satisfy [the] description of a militia." FACT: The myth is that "militia" means exclusively the National Guard. Under Perpich the term militia is not restricted to the National Guard: "all portions of the 'militia' - organized or not- [are subject] to call if needed for the purposes specified in the Militia Clauses." "The argument that today's National Guardsmen, members of a select militia, would constitute the only persons entitled to keep and bear arms has no historical foundation," writes historian Joyce Lee Malcolm in To Keep and Bear Arms (Harvard University Press 1994). MYTH 7: The NRA consistently quotes colonial leaders out of context. There is sufficient historical evidence to show that the basic concern of these leaders, in the drafting and passage of the Second Amendment, was the preservation and the efficiency of state militia forces. FACT: This is a myth. NRA's view is supported by publications from the most prestigious universities in the nation: e.g., Duke, Georgetown, Harvard, Rutgers and Yale.
  18. The best employees tend to be ex-cons. The fact that most employers discriminate against them gives a great opportunity for those employers who don't.
  19. "Nuff said.
  20. hugo

    VA shooting

    WAYNESBURG, Ky. - Miss America 1944 has a talent that likely has never appeared on a beauty pageant stage: She fired a handgun to shoot out a vehicle's tires and stop an intruder. Venus Ramey, 82, confronted a man on her farm in south-central Kentucky last week after she saw her dog run into a storage building where thieves had previously made off with old farm equipment. Ramey said the man told her he would leave. "I said, 'Oh, no you won't,' and I shot their tires so they couldn't leave," Ramey said. She had to balance on her walker as she pulled out a snub-nosed .38-caliber handgun. "I didn't even think twice. I just went and did it," she said. "If they'd even dared come close to me, they'd be 6 feet under by now." Ramey then flagged down a passing motorist, who called 911. Curtis Parrish of Ohio was charged with misdemeanor trespassing, Deputy Dan Gilliam said. The man's hometown wasn't immediately available. Three other people were questioned but were not arrested. After winning the pageant with her singing, dancing and comedic talents, Ramey sold war bonds and her picture was adorned on a B-17 that made missions over Germany in World War II, according to the Miss America Web site. Ramey lived in Cincinnati for several years and was instrumental in helping rejuvenate Over-the-Rhine historic buildings. She returned to Kentucky in 1990 to live on her farm. "I'm trying to live a quiet, peaceful life and stay out of trouble, and all it is, is one thing after another," she said.
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    Suicides per 100,000 people per year:[1][2] Rank Country Year Males Females Total 1. Lithuania 2003 74.3 13.9 42.1 2. Russia 2002 69.3 11.9 38.7 3. Belarus 2003 63.3 10.3 35.1 4. Kazakhstan 2002 50.2 8.8 28.8 5. Slovenia 2003 45.0 12.0 28.1 6. Hungary 2003 44.9 12.0 27.7 7. Estonia 2002 47.7 9.8 27.3 8. Ukraine 2002 46.7 8.4 26.1 9. Latvia 2003 45.0 9.7 26.0 10. Japan 2002 35.2 12.8 23.8 11. Sri Lanka 1996 NA NA 21.6 12. Belgium 1997 31.2 11.4 21.1 13. Finland 2003 31.9 9.8 20.6 14. Croatia 2003 31.4 8.4 19.5 15. Switzerland 2001 26.5 10.6 18.4 16. Cuba 1996 24.5 12.0 18.3 17. Austria 2003 27.1 9.3 17.9 18. Republic of Korea (South Korea) 2002 24.7 11.2 17.9 19. France 2001 26.6 9.1 17.6 20. Republic of Moldova 2003 30.6 4.8 17.2 21. Czech Republic 2003 27.5 6.8 16.9 22. Poland 2002 26.6 5.0 15.5 23. Hong Kong SAR, China 2002 20.7 10.2 15.3 24. Romania 2002 23.9 4.7 14.1 25. Bulgaria 2003 21.0 7.3 14 26. China (selected areas) 1999 13.0 14.8 13.9 27. Denmark 2000 20.2 7.2 13.6 28. Germany 2001 20.4 7.0 13.5 29. Sweden 2001 18.9 8.1 13.4 30. Slovakia 2002 23.6 3.6 13.3 31. Seychelles 1998 NA NA 13.2 32. Australia 2001 20.1 5.3 12.7 33. Ireland 2001 21.4 4.1 12.7 34. Iceland 2001 19.6 5.6 12.6 35. Canada 2001 18.7 5.2 11.9 36. Mauritius 2000 18.8 5.2 11.9 37. New Zealand 2000 19.8 4.2 11.9 38. Suriname 1992 16.6 7.2 11.9 39. Bosnia and Herzegovina 1991 20.3 3.3 11.8 40. Portugal 2002 18.9 4.9 11.7 41. Trinidad and Tobago 1994 17.4 5 11.6 42. Luxembourg 2003 18.5 3.5 10.9 43. Norway 2002 16.1 5.8 10.9 44. India 1998 12.2 9.1 10.7 45. United States 2002 17.6 4.1 11.0 Looks like Australians find other ways to kill themselves. More than half of gun deaths in the US are suicide.
  22. hugo

    VA shooting

    Windows, dumbfuck.
  23. hugo

    VA shooting

    Nobody had a fuckin' gun. The school was a gun free zone. Which means the loony had target practice. Let me explain why the rabbit runs from the coyote. The coyote has superior force. Sam Colt only made man equal if they both had guns. Most fled...most lived. You charge someone with a gun while everyone else is running... you are a dumbass. There is a thin line between courage and stupidity. Yes, if you were within ten feet you might charge otherwise ya better hope he picks another target. If someone pulls a gun on you you attack. If someone pulls a gun on a classroom of a hundred you better run if ya ain't damn close to the gunman. Since someone has already referred to Darwin's law let me state there is a reason animals flee (including humans) in the face of superior force and the rat only attacks when cornered. Nature has rewarded the flee instinct .
  24. hugo

    VA shooting

    Knowing the average size of college classes I am betting he killed less than 1 out of five students, probably closer to one out of ten, he encountered. Your best odds were to go for the nearest exit.
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