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Shifting to attacking me? No thanks. I'd rather wipe my ass with sandpaper. Mush less irritating...

Exactly TJ. We are on exactly the same page. Just like I always say. The Dems promise to give handouts to the poor, the minorities and the downtrodden to "buy" their votes. The conservatives want these people to learn to pick themselves up by their own bootstraps. Who do you think they are gonna vote for. The conservatives who want them to work for what they want or the liberals who promise to give them what they want for free. Duhh. Double-exactly here.

Serious question here wez: What exactly is so bad about being called a "liberal" if most of your political views do indeed line up with liberals? Extraordinarily accurate point.

Here's mine. Rather loaded (towards the left) questions, if you ask me.

I don't want to get nitpicky, but why does it have to be "you Liberals"? Can't you just make it "liberals" so my thread won't turn into a continuation of the same crap from the other threads? I think a petition is a great idea. And the drug testing should most definitely be random.

actually IWS, wez did mean "Liberal party", not Libertarian, and it was most definitely meant as a slam on TJ. You have to understand the mind of wez and how it works: His goal with most of his replies is to point out the hypocrisy of someone else (he has said this himself many times,) and him calling TJ a "liberal" was an attempt at showing the hypocrisy of TJ calling wez a liberal in another thread. Wez was baiting, plain and simple.

e-mail I received: THE JOB- URINE TEST Like a lot of folks in this state, I have a job. I work, they pay me. I pay my taxes and the government distributes my taxes as it sees fit. In order to get that paycheck, I am required to pass a random urine test (with which I have no problem.) What I do have a problem with is the distribution of my taxes to people who don't have to pass a urine test. Shouldn't one have to pass a urine test to get a welfare check, because I have to pass one to earn it for them? Please understand, I have no problem with helping people get back on their feet. I do, on the other hand, have a problem with helping someone sitting on their ASS, doing drugs, while I work. Can you imagine how much money the state would save if people had to pass a urine test to get a public assistance check?

Wez is a fan of the Vikings. Told you all it was his fault...

Shoulda been "Bong hits for Allah"- then it woulda been fine.

WOO HOOO!!!!! '72 Dolphins STILL the only perfect team!!!

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^^that explains it all. After living a block from you for any length of time, I'd likely blow up my house too...

Man has a history of not being able to control himself enough for this. Sure you and I would acknowledge downs syndrome, cerebral palsy and other things as viable birth defects, but some consider being Jewish a birth defect. or being black. or female. or short. or ugly. I think that is to dangerous a slope to start sliding down.

what's the purpose of a post count in the shoutbox?

While mom was pregnant, my parents were told that my baby sis would have Down Syndrome, and that she should be aborted to spare what would likely be a very dangerous delivery. Mom and dad said no, and while sis was born 6 weeks early, she is today a completely normal 18 year old girl- starting her second semester of college where she wants to become an elementary school teacher. Doctors ain't always right- and life is precious.

well now, isn't that special...

How in the world is having a baby a "punishment"?

unrelated to the current discussion, but pretty darn funny: .

Johny- Ginger or MaryAnn?

Chuck Norris once roundhouse kicked someone so hard that his foot broke the speed of light, went back in time, and killed Amelia Earhart while she was flying over the Pacific Ocean. Chuck Norris does not have AIDS but he gives it to people anyway. Rather than being birthed like a normal child, Chuck Norris instead decided to punch his way out of his mother's womb. Shortly thereafter he grew a beard. When Chuck Norris plays Oregon Trail his family does not die from cholera or dysentery, but rather roundhouse kicks to the face. He also requires no wagon, since he carries the oxen, axels, and buffalo meat on his back. He always makes it to Oregon before you. Chuck Norris built a time machine and went back in time to stop the JFK assassination. As Oswald shot, Chuck met all three bullets with his beard, deflecting them. JFK's head exploded out of sheer amazement. Chuck Norris sold his soul to the devil for his rugged good looks and unparalleled martial arts ability. Shortly after the transaction was finalized, Chuck roundhouse kicked the devil in the face and took his soul back. The devil, who appreciates irony, couldn't stay mad and admitted he should have seen it coming. They now play poker every second Wednesday of the month. A man once asked Chuck Norris if his real name is "Charles". Chuck Norris did not respond, he simply stared at him until he exploded. Chuck Norris recently had the idea to sell his urine as a canned beverage. We know this beverage as Red Bull. The chief export of Chuck Norris is pain. After much debate, President Truman decided to drop the atomic bomb on Hiroshima rather than the alternative of sending Chuck Norris. His reasoning? It was more "humane". Chuck Norris often asks people to pull his finger. When they do, he roundhouses them in the abdomen. Then he farts. Chuck Norris is currently suing NBC, claiming Law and Order are trademarked names for his left and right legs. If you can see Chuck Norris, he can see you. If you can't see Chuck Norris you may be only seconds away from death. One of the greatest cover-ups of the last century was the fact that Hitler did not commit suicide in his bunker, but was in fact tea- bagged to death by Chuck Norris. There are no disabled people. Only people who have met Chuck Norris. It was once believed that Chuck Norris actually lost a fight to a pirate, but that is a lie, created by Chuck Norris himself to lure more pirates to him. Pirates never were very smart. Scientists used to think that diamond was the hardest substance in the universe, until they met Chuck Norris, who promptly roundhouse kicked them in the face until the intense heat and pressure turned the scientists into artificial Chuck Norris'. Chuck Norris's tears cure cancer. Too bad he has never cried. The original theme song to the Transformers was actually "Chuck Norris-more than meets the eye, Chuck Norris-robot in disguise," and starred Chuck Norris as a Texas Ranger who defended the earth from drug-dealing Decepticons and could turn into a pick-up. This was far too much awesome for a single show, however, so it was divided. Chuck Norris was the fourth Wise Man. He brought baby Jesus the gift of "beard". Jesus wore it proudly to his dying day. The other Wise Men, jealous of Jesus's obvious gift favoritism, used their combined influence to have Chuck omitted from the Bible. Shortly after all three died of roundhouse kick-related deaths. Chuck Norris once shot a German plane down with his finger, by yelling "Bang!" Chuck Norris can make a woman climax by simply pointing at her and saying "booya". Before each filming of Walker: Texas Ranger, Chuck Norris is injected with five times the lethal dose of elephant tranquilzer. This is, of course, to limit his strength and mobility, in an attempt to lower the fatality rate of the actors he fights. Chuck Norris does not sleep. He waits. When Chuck Norris's wife burned the turkey one Thanksgiving, Chuck said, "Don't worry about it honey," and went into his backyard. He came back five minutes later with a live turkey, ate it whole, and when he threw it up a few seconds later it was fully cooked and came with cranberry sauce. When his wife asked him how he had done it, he gave her a roundhouse kick to the face and said, "Never question Chuck Norris." Chuck Norris once tried to sue Burger King after they refused to put razor wire in his Whopper Jr., insisting that that actually is "his" way. Chuck Norris took my virginity, and he will sure as hell take yours. If you're thinking to yourself, "That's impossible, I already lost my virginity.", then you are dead wrong.

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Gainesville? Seriously? Way back in the day we used to go to Gainesville for stock car races. I lived in Florida til I was 8- St Pete, Clearwater, and Chiefland- and have lived in Arizona ever since.

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heh heh heh, that one musta stung a bit, huh Webdressing? Good one Snafu.