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You know, if I were the devil I'd be pissed off at a bunch of panzi's blaming me for everything they do wrong too. Judas should have followed his teachers example like he claimed... Perhaps this is where all our "it's always someone elses fault for what I do" world came from.. Devils a good target, he can't defend himself.. Plus, all I have to do is ask Jesus for forgiveness and I'm in.. Hmmmmm I think if Jesus were alive, he'd say.. "free will, remember? What did I teach you"?

Myself actually.. I have never done this because I always would think about how can I sit across from this person when it's just the 2 of us and look them in the eye knowing what I've done.. I would tell them for sure. It may hurt them but I could never live with or surpress the guilt.. They have a right to know the truth and decide whether they want to continue in the relationship or not. IMO.. The guilty party may even self sabotage unknowingly to deal with the guilt, or if they have no guilt, chances are they will continue to do it.. I say tell indeed. Plus I'd think too, if the roles were reversed, how would I feel about it? I'd have a harder time getting past the deed being withheld from me than the actual deed itself I think.. I would forgive them for sure either way, but could I stay and trust them anymore? No trust = no relationship IMO.. Also, the truth is the truth, for better or for worse.. and it really is always the best policy.. I don't see how the relationship could ever progress without it.. And would most likely regress in one way or another with this kind of wedge in it.. Guilt makes people do crazy things.

I forgave you for that last week..

You got it Snafola.. Ditto for me eddo, as well as anything and everything else you may do in the future.

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New York State of Mind Billy Joel Some folks like to get away, take a holiday from the neighborhood Hop a flight to miami beach or hollywood. Im taking a greyhound on the hudson river line- Im in a new york state of mind. I seen all the movie stars in their fancy cars and their limousines, Been high in the rockies under the evergreens, But I know what Im needing and I dont want to waste more time- Im in a new york state of mind. It was so easy living day by day Out of touch with the rhythm and the blues, But now I need a little give and take, The new york times, the daily news... It comes down to reality-and its fine with me cause Ive let it slide, Dont care if its chinatown or riverside, I dont have any reasons, Ive left them all behind- Im in a new york state of mind. Repeat 3rd verse Im just taking a greyhound on the hudson river line- cause Im in a new york state of mind. [ame]www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmCYJ__QYpo[/ame] New York Minute Eagles Harry got up Dressed all in black Went down to the station And he never came back They found his clothing Scattered somewhere down the track And he won’t be down on wall street In the morning He had a home The love of a girl But men get lost sometimes As years unfold One day he crossed some line And he was too much in this world But I guess it doesn’t matter anymore In a new york minute Everything can change In a new york minute Things can get pretty strange In a new york minute Everything can change In a new york minute Lying here in the darkness I hear the sirens wail Somebody going to emergency Somebody’s going to jail If you find somebody to love in this world You better hand on tooth and nail The wolf is always at the door In a new york minute Everything can change In a new york minute Things can get a little strange In a new york minute Everything can change In a new york minute And in these days When darkness falls early And people rush home To the ones they love You better take a fool’s advice And tak care of your own One day they’re here; Next day they’re gone I pulled my coat around my shoulders And took a walk down through the park The leaves were falling around me The groaning city in the gathering dark On some solitary rock A desperate lover left his mark, ’baby, I’ve changed. please come back.’ What the head makes cloudy The heart makes very clear The days were so much brighter In the time when she was here But I know there’s somebody somewhere Make these dark clouds disappear Until that day, I have to believe I believe, I believe In a new york minute Everything can change In a new york minute You can get out of the rain In a new york minute Everything can change In a new york minute [ame]www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCUhW_qhlvQ[/ame] This song always reminds me of 9/11 R.I.P. Brothers and sisters. Never forgotten, always forgiven.

Knock knock.. guess who? Stood firm. Yay me.

I'm not talking about man other than the example Jesus set for us. It is His words I listen to, and trust. Not those who have twisted his teachings to serve themselves and men in their Earthly life by making them think they will be forgiven just for the asking.. They will be forgiven for the giving, not the asking, sincerely. That should tell you I am right.

What liberties? Can one find the gate without forgiveness of their sins? How does one get forgiveness? Asking for it sincerely will not mean you get it. Everyone sincerely wants forgiveness for themselves.. But few will find the gate that leads to life. To get it, you must give it sincerely, just like Jesus did. That is how I see it. Think of this.. we've all held on to a grudge.. does that make your soul feel good or breed hate and anger? That should tell you something.. and help you know I am right. Not forgiving hurts you, not the person you refuse to forgive. They don't need your forgiveness, you do.

The forgiveness isn't there until they fully give it. Sincerity lies in the giving.. not the asking and getting. If you think someone needs to ask you for your forgiveness to get it from you, that is not sincere. One gives it without being asked, always, for everything. Just like Jesus. Then and only then will they receive it.. It's all up to us, not Jesus. If it was as easy as you claim and would like to believe, this would be the opposite.. Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it. For the gate is small and the way is narrow that leads to life, and there are few who find it. ~ Jesus (NASB) Matt. 7:13-14 Easy to ask for it.. not as easy to give it.. which is the only way to find the narrow gate. Not forgiving someone hurts you, not them.. Jesus understood this. It's all in the giving, not the getting. Plus, it is your view where people think, "no matter what I do, all I have to do is ask and I will be forgiven, may as well keep sinning even though I know it's wrong"... Everyone is sincere in the asking of forgiveness for themselves.. not so sincere in the giving of forgiveness to others, which is all that matters. Follow the example of Jesus. That is what He wanted.

That's right.. Jesus forgave those who murdered him before they actually did it. Jesus forgave everyone for everything. And prayed for them.. He set the example for us. But their fate was in their own hands. Jesus fully gave his forgiveness to them because he understood that is the only way. Even though Jesus forgave them, they will receive the measure they gave, according to Jesus. It is not there just for the asking.. Jesus gave forgiveness without being asked.. So that others may also forgive in his example. He didn't ask to be forgiven.. He didn't ask to get forgiveness for Himself.. He gave forgiveness. The giving is all that matters.. not the getting. Give it, and the rest will take care of itself. Like he said.. "They know not what they do".. And what they did, they did to themselves.

That's just it.. Jesus was talking about everyone GIVING forgiveness. That is all we as individuals are capable of.. Giving it. Whether someone else wants to give it to you or not is not the concern. Don't look at it from the getting.. but rather the giving of it. It is not there just for the asking. Some people will never forgive you no matter what. That is their problem, not yours. The request is not what's important.. Getting forgiveness is in your hands, not the hands of Jesus.. Jesus told us how to be forgiven. Give it fully to others, even before a deed is done. All we can do is give.. that is all we are in control of.. And it is an all or nothing deal. There is no picking and choosing as to who or what one will forgive. One must give it fully and completely if they are to receive it.. There is no other way. Why should I/Jesus/anyone forgive you, if you do not forgive everyone? Like you said.. sin, is sin, is sin.. Give to receive. It's all in the giving, not the getting.. Jesus may forgive those who do not forgive, but no matter how sincere they are in the asking, the measure the give is the measure they will get.. Their choice.. Free will. Not the choice of Jesus..

I'm not sure.. but I have heard of that too.. I wanna be alive in 100,000 years dammit!! We're on the cusp, as far as universal time anyways.. 100,000 years aint crap in the grand scheme..

I think IWS got the just of Einstiens theory Sheik.. The relation between space and time.. it is a mystery. I'm thinking cryogenics for long space travel will be the key to begin with.. If we can ever perfect that, sky's the limit.. Plus, being in deep freeze would prevent cabin fever and any other phychological/physical barriers as well.

You did.. snaf asked wouldn't that make Peter as much a traitor, and you said no, basically. You seemed to think Judas was a greater sinner than Peter because of those Earthly consequences. I could be wrong but that's how I saw it.. You got it backwards.. One doesn't need to ask for forgiveness from anyone but themselves... One GIVES forgiveness to everyone for anything and everything.. Then they will be forgiven, according to Jesus. It's something one gives... all or nothing. "The measure you give is the measure you receive".. One cannot get forgiveness if one does not give forgiveness. All those who seek it, sincerely or not, will not find it.. Everyone wants to be forgiven, but not everyone is capable or willing to forgive.. One can only control themselves, not others. Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it. For the gate is small and the way is narrow that leads to life, and there are few who find it. ~ Jesus (NASB) Matt. 7:13-14 And that's how those who find it, give it to others before a deed is done. Not ask for it for themselves before a deed is done so they can kill someone anyways.. Make sense eddo? I could try again..

I've seen you say before that you believe that sin, is sin, is sin. You have said you believe this through your religious teachings. Seems you are judging the severity of those sins from those comments of yours above. I thought only God was judge? For those who have, and find forgiveness, they understand it is an all or nothing affair. One cannot pick and choose who and what to forgive. All or nothing. To not forgive is to judge. "Judge not lest ye be judged and the measure you give is the measure you will receive". This is how you may be forgiven before you do something. By practicing what one claims to believe and following the words and teaching of Jesus Christ.

They are. So many beautiful ones at that site. The archives go back almost 10 years I think.. One of my favorites is one of a cresent Jupiter.. here's the link for it.. APOD: 2003 March 9 - Farewell Jupiter I used to use it as my background.. looks great on the screen. Actually Sheik, the fastest we've ever got anything going is about 100,000 km per hour with the Galileo probe by using the gravity of Jupiter as a slingshot.. At this speed, it would still take 44,500 Earth years to get to the nearest star, which is indeed Alpha Centauri.. 20 light years, about 200,000 years at that speed.. The dust of my bones would arrive in style. Einstien therorized that time would slow the closer one got to the speed of light, which is like 186,000 miles per second. (299,274 km per second).. Hence.. "light year".. The amount of time it takes light to reach us at that speed.. 5 years for the nearest star. Mind boggling. Who knows? Seems cryogenic preservation would be the only way to attempt such a feat.. As for your question, I'd go in a heartbeat if my chances were good.. What an experience to wake up in 500,000 years in a new solar system.. prolly wanna wait til I'm on my death bed to go though.. Hahahaha I see, you did say, "if we could travel the speed of light".. Someday hopefully.. If we could, I'd leave tommorrow..

What else is interesting about Pat's article is that is was written in 2000.. over a year before 9/11 even happened. He could apparently see the writing on the wall.

Fortunately, I have neither and learn from the mistakes of others..

I love it.. Here are some pics from the archives of this site.. I set my homepage here. There's a new one everyday. Astronomy Picture of the Day The pics didn't seem to work.. crap.. Oh well.. anyone interested can follow the link and check out the archives. Here's a few samples. APOD: 2005 November 30 - Reflections on the Horsehead Nebula APOD: 2006 May 20 - Elliptical Galaxy M87 APOD: 2006 May 19 - The Gum Nebula

Even more mind bending is the fact that our galaxy is but a mere speck of dust in a vast, vast universe.. Could our universe be a mere speck of dust in a vast, vast, (word not invented yet)? I have my homepage set here.. Astronomy Picture of the Day There's a new pic everyday.. I love astronomy.. The archives have some unreal pics. Might have to start up an astronomy thread and post some pics..

Thanks for the tip.. I'll make my move from the right.

Being a capitalist liberal myself who doesn't drink beer, only kicks asses, I will begin by kicking Ali's ass, eating her cookie, taking her beer, and giving it to the less fortunate. AKA.. You. Vicious cycle is right.. Hahahaha

Tightrope Stevie Ray Vaughan Caught up in a whirlwind cant catch my breath Knee deep in hot water broke out in a cold sweat Cant catch a turtle in this rat race Feels like Im losin time at a breakneck pace Afraid of my own shadow in the face of grace Heart full of darkness spotlight on my face There was love all around me but I was lookin for revenge Thank God it never found me would have been the end (I was) walkin the tightrope steppin on my friends Walkin the tightrope (it) was a shame and a sin Walkin the tightrope between wrong and right Walkin the tightrope both day and night Lookin back in front of me in the mirrors a grin Through eyes of love I see Im really lookin at a friend Weve all had our problems thats the way life is My heart goes out to others who are there to make amends Weve been walkin the tightrope tryin to make it right Walkin the tightrope every day and every night Walkin the tightrope bring it all around Walkin the tightrope from the lost to found Walkin the tightrope stretched around the world Walkin the tightrope save the boys and girls Walkin the tightrope lets make it right Walkin the tightrope do it do it tonight Walkin the tightrope [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGWegjUWmdk]YouTube - Stevie Ray Vaughan - Tightrope[/ame]

Didn't see it there but a goldmine of great Stevie.. Gonna post one my favs on the lyrics post. Thanks for the great link.. That tribute band did a pretty nice job though!