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Stone Cold Rainbow Every night I have the same old dream bout you and me and whats in between So many changes, so many lies Try to run, try to hide from everything that I feel inside But I cant escape you or your frozen eyes... Searching in the darkness Fading out of sight Love was here and gone like a thief in the night... Stone cold... And I thought I knew you so well Stone cold Cant break away from your spell Another dark and empty night If I was wrong I wanna make it right But you are so distant, so far away Your words like ice fall on the ground Breaking the silence without a sound Oh familiar strangers with nothing to say Searching in the darkness Fading out of sight Love was here and gone like a thief in the night... Stone cold... And I thought I knew you so well... Stone cold Cant break away from your spell... You leave me stone cold Searching in the darkness Fading out of sight Love was here and gone like a thief in the night... Stone cold... And I thought I knew you so well Stone cold Cant break away from your spell Youre stone cold...yeah I cant break away from your spell Stone cold...baby I thought I knew you so well Youre stone cold...ice cold Cant break away from your spell (you put me in the deep freeze) (oh baby dont you leave me) (stone...cold, your leavin me cold) Stone cold...I thought I knew you so well Stone cold...cant break away from your spell [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YntC2JsSmzQ]YouTube - rainbow-stone cold[/ame] Rainbow rocks..

Yeah, me too... a couple months back spazz threatened to hunt me down with his resources and mean streak on this post http://Off Topic Forum.com/62-clearing-up-the-wpyo-bs.html Hahahahaha I must have been really stoned at the time.. I'm willing to be the best whore I can for you

Love Big Log... Don Henley Rocks too. I guess I never really saw a connection between the two... David Coverdale always reminded me of a Plant wanna be.. I do like some Whitesnake too.

You keep your filthy words off my virtual wife you son of a bitch.. I can kick virtual ass when I have to...

Yay me! You've made me the happiest vitual man in cyberspace.

Huh? What does judge not mean? What was Jesus saying? No.. That was me asking him/you how the f ck he would know and who is he to judge everyones method of finding God.. I think this kind of thinking leads to acceptance of violence and/or murder when it is aimed at those who don't follow his road to salvation. I'm standing up for life and all people and take the stand that it's never ok to kill other people. I don't believe that eddo, I think that's what has been inferred to rally support for invading Iraq. I believe those wackjobs flew planes into buildings because they are tired of the US interfering in their lives and governments. We have been at it since the who knows when.. 50's maybe. What do we expect when we dispose of leaders and install a puppet like we did in Iran with the Shaw in the 70's? They stormed and kidnapped people at our embassy.. Then we have our nose in the middle of the Iran/Iraq war, Kuwait, Iraq Osama'a problem was really with his own oppressive government and since we basically keep them in power against the wishes of many of their own people, they sent some wacko's to fly planes into buildings. Not because they want to take over the world and subjugate you. They prolly see that in us, wouldn't you think? Who has the military base in who's country and are conducting wars all over their region and have been everpresent for the last 50 years with fancy killing tools? Think about it.. Like I said before, would you understand them if they did? Apparently some do.. I saw that post of papa's.. I doubt that person is the only one.. So, when we spend decade after decade interferring in others affairs, there could be some consequences. We should learn from our mistakes and let them forge their own future. It's quite possible that we had a large hand in creating the "fundi's" as what we have done would naturally piss us off if on the other end of our actions and religious people naturally throughout history have always twisted their teachings to have God on their side when they feel the need to kill someone. That is the point here. No, we are not all hypocrites.. How can you say that? Then you must think all Christians are condemned.. What does Jesus say will happen to hypocrites? What will their reward be? Or does that just make you feel better for choosing to continuously be one? Not everyone is like you eddo.. Again.. perhaps you might wanna think of their perspective of a constant US presence in their regions and affairs for their entire lives up to this point except for the oldest of their citizens.. Who's trying to take over the world? I agree, it needs to be looked at, so we need to look at ourselves.. Do you think we may have had a hand in creating this mess or are we just innocent victims? Perhaps you should walk in their sandels for 50 years before you condemn them..

Big Log Robert Plant My love is in league with the freeway Its passion will ride, as the cities fly by And the tail-lights dissolve, in the coming of night And the questions in thousands take flight My love is a-miles in the waiting The eyes that just stare, and the glance at the clock And the secret that burns, and the pain that grows dark And it's you once again Leading me on - leading me down the road Driving beyond - driving me down the road My love is exceedingly vivid Red-eyed and fevered with the hum of the miles Distance and longing, my thoughts do provide Should I rest for a while at the side Your love is cradled in knowing Eyes in the mirror, still expecting they'll come Sensing too well when the journey is done There is no turning back - no There is no turning back - on the run My love is in league with the freeway Oh the freeway, and the coming of night-time My love is in league with the freeway [ame]www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZQL22xOmUM[/ame] A great Plant solo song..

Burning down one side Robert Plant Slipped through the window by the back door Caught short in transit with my love Jumped up, fell back, cut off from romance, How could I fall without a shove Tip-toed like thunder on my feelings You rock me gently with your sighs My knees are weak - my head is reeling Consumed by the fire in your eyes Stepped in and shattered my defences, Just playing hookey with my heart Slipped through the window by the back door And took the keys to my poor heart, yes my poor heart Try as I might - try as I may Yes I'll try anything to make you stay Cause I need your love - yes I need your love -- I'm looking high - I'm looking low, Can't find where did my baby go Gotta find out why she ran away I don't know where did my baby stay Try as I might - try as I may Yes I'll try anything to make you stay Fire down the Boulevard d'Amour Shoot through the neon in the night Hot foot through alleys - check the doorways Try that old parking lot on Ninth There's three-course kissing in the same place But that don't help me out no more I've been away so long and dreaming Little girl ain't I seen you before [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiXR9apEaD0&feature=related]YouTube - Robert Plant Burning Down One Side[/ame] Can't wait for this to load.. I don't even remember how it goes, just that I really liked it..

Excellent tune! Those 3 albums.. Number of the beast, Piece of mind, and Powerslave were great.. I think they're still at it. Good band. Dickenson is such a great singer..

Whoops.. double post. Don't taze me bro! Hahahaha Let's just use it to say... Whatever the truth as to the creation of humankind, it is the same truth for every human that will ever have existed and it will never be changed by what people think/say/do. The end.

What, killing leaders and converting them to Christianity? She is quite the shock jock.. How the f ck would he know and who is he decide how every individual should find God. It's quite egotistical if you ask me.. if that's cool. Hahahaha.. He's a man of God and once a "respectable" Christian soldier.. Just as I believe the majority of muslims really have no desire to conquer the world and subjugate people. Apparently, a Christian terrorist with bad intentions for the US.. So why try to make the world better from a position of "power"? Jesus is on the way to condemn everyone who doesn't look/think like you..

I do get it, this is about validating some solid foundation built upon rock that you are better and righter than someone else based on religious beliefs or less reprehensible actions incurred through religious beliefs which is why it's ok to hate and kill them... I'm here to tell you you're wrong.

Revelations Iron Maiden O God of earth and altar Bow down and hear our cry Our earthly rulers falter Our peolple drift and die The walls of gold entombe us The swords of scorn divide Take not thy thunder from us But take away our pride (g. k. chesterton: english hymnal) Just a babe in a black abyss No reason for a place like this The walls are cold and souls cry out in pain An easy way for the blind to go A clever path for the fools who know The secret of the hanged man - the smile on his lips The light of the blind you'll see The venom that tears my spine The eyes of the nile are opening - you'll see She came to me with a serpents kiss As the eye of the sun rose on her lips Moonlight catches silver tears I cry So we lay in a black embrace And the seed is sown in a holy place And I watched and I waited for the dawn The light of the blind youll see The venom that tears my spine The eyes of the nile are opening - you'll see Bind all of us together Ablaze of hope and free No storm or heavy weather Will rock the boat youll see The time has come to close your eyes And still the wind and rain For the one who will be king The watcher in the ring It is you [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClM5Hqktook]YouTube - Iron Maiden - Revelations (Live at Ullevi)[/ame] used to love Iron Maiden.. Saw em live 3 times one year when I was 15 or so.. Powerslave tour.. Forgot all about em. Love this song.

Wasted Sunsets Deep Purple The day is gone when the angels come to stay and all the silent whispers will be blown away lying in the corner, a pair of high-heel shoes hanging on the wall, gold and silver for the blues one too many wasted sunsets one too many for the road and after dark, the door is always open hopin' someone else will show someone is waiting behind an unlocked door grey circle's overhead, empty's on the floor the cracks in the walls have grown too long the slow hand is dragging on, afraid to meet the dawn one too many wasted sunsets one too many for the road and after dark, the door is always open hopin' someone else will show [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQETRcauC1U]YouTube - Deep Purple Wasted Sunsets[/ame]

Since I've been loving you Led Zep "Since I've Been Loving You" Working from seven to eleven every night, It really makes life a drag, I don't think that's right. I've really, really been the best of fools, I did what I could. 'Cause I love you, baby, How I love you, darling, How I love you, baby, How I love you, girl, little girl. But baby, Since I've Been Loving You. I'm about to lose my worried mind, oh, yeah. Everybody trying to tell me that you didn't mean me no good. I've been trying, Lord, let me tell you, Let me tell you I really did the best I could. I've been working from seven to eleven every night, I said It kinda makes my life a drag. Lord, that ain't right... Since I've Been Loving You, I'm about to lose my worried mind. Said I've been crying, my tears they fell like rain, Don't you hear, Don't you hear them falling, Don't you hear, Don't you hear them falling. Do you remember mama, when I knocked upon your door? I said you had the nerve to tell me you didn't want me no more, yeah I open my front door, hear my back door slam, You must have one of them new fangled back door man. I've been working from seven, seven, seven, to eleven every night, It kinda makes my life a drag... Baby, Since I've Been Loving You, I'm about to lose, I'm about lose to my worried mind. [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89yw7wqoaio]YouTube - Since I've been Loving you[/ame] Love this version from the movie.. aint seen it in years. I gotta get high speed dammit...

Vasoline Stone Temple Pilots One time a thing occured to me What's real, and what's for sale? Blew a kiss and tried to take it home It is'nt you, is'nt me Search for things that you can't see Going blind, out of reach Somewhere in the vasoline Two times and it has rendered me Punch drunk and without bail Think I'd be safer all alone Flys in the vasoline we are Sometimes it blows my mind Keep getting stuck here all the time You'll see the look and you'll see the lies You'll eat the lies, and you will. It is'nt you, is'nt me Search for things that you can't see Going blind, out of reach Somewhere in the vasoline. [ame]www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zq5FeHzKtqw[/ame]

How about this Tori.. You tell me the big difference between individuals and non living entities/countries full of individuals when it comes to killing/hating/condemning according to the teachings of Jesus.. I never went to church.. Bottom line for me, you condemn them and their religion based on some peoples actions and beliefs, you condemn no one but yourself and your religion, unless you are God. That is the message I get from Jesus, and believe it. Individual to individual, religion to religion, country to country. There is no difference as all I see are individual human beings who sprang hence forth from the same creator as I. Like I said, I never went to church, tell me where I am mistaken, please.

Spinitaway Media Sanitation Services When Christians Kill By TESS HARPER "Our troops" (preferred term. Avoid "military" or "bombs", as those words can get people upset) seem to have, regrettably, killed nine children inside a home in another inevitable accident in Afghanistan. This is going to present us with yet another challenge, linguistics-wise, because as you surely know by now, we have a very, very Christian President, which means that everything he orders his military to do, and everything his military orders our troops to do, is of course consistent with Christian principles. I've been on the horn all morning with Washington on this potential PR disaster, and I know that my readers are concerned as well, lest our military missions or our rules of engagement be questioned (Tess Tip: "rules of engagement" reliably quells opposition, as it sounds too official and sophisticated for the average reader to dare question). But not to worry, Tess is on the case. A bit of shuffling around is in order, but if we work fast, we can prevent the usual whining about how "US aggression" has led to more civilian deaths, etc., blah blah blah. Never fear, Dear Reader: As long as we get the words right, people will have forgotten all about those nine juveniles by, oh, Tuesday at the latest. You see, when Christians kill, we have to have certain-wording. The right wording has been brilliantly used by our leaders these last two years to nip in the bud any dangerous notions that killing is somehow un-Christlike. I mean we all know that Jesus would be the first to commend the bombers for their good intentions, after all, they were trying to kill "the enemy" and rid the world of evil, and just had a little, well, accident. And Jesus said, well never mind. Let's move on to pious-sounding words from the other parts of the Bible or from cherished old hymns that are, well, more amenable to our purposes than all that stuff that Jesus taught, which really has no pertinence here. (Tess Tip: you'll save a lot of time by skipping the Gospels altogether when justifying military defense killings, or when sanitizing military offense killings disguised as defense killings. I know all this is rather confusing, but the simple rule of thumb is in these situations is: Don't quote Jesus.) Think with me for a moment. We need to strategize. What kind of phrase would make this nasty little incident more palatable to the good Christians of America? For starters, we'll need a good Biblical-sounding word or two. "Evildoers" is usually a winner, but it's been a bit overused of late. How about-hmm-"freedom"? Good, but not quite Biblical enough to cover our.to convey the Christian impulse behind this regrettable incident (Tess Tip: always include the word "regrettable" when families are killed, preferably followed pretty quickly by the word "inevitable"-but don't use "collateral damage", as a lot of folks are starting to see through that one). Still no ideas? Okay, let's just admit we're stuck for a moment, and go back to the AP story, 12/6/03. That should give us some ideas: "An American A-10 aircraft struck a site south of Ghazni where a "known terrorist" was believed to be hiding at about 10:30 a.m. Saturday, Army Maj. Christopher E. West told The Associated Press. "Following the attack, ground coalition forces searching the area found the bodies of both the intended target and those of nine children nearby," he said. The U.S. military was sending a team of investigators to the site to determine if U.S. forces were at fault," West said." Oh icky, that's no good-words like "attack", "bodies", "children", and fault" are to be avoided at all costs. Let's move on to another paragraph: ""We regret the loss of any innocent life and we follow stringent rules of engagement to specifically avoid this type of incident while continuing to target terrorists who threaten the future of Afghanistan," West said." Much better! Our wording should include something about our dedication to preserving "innocent life", which we should, of course, quickly follow by reminding the reader or listener that, even though we did the killing, there were bad people (including a "known terrorist") out there threatening the very victims that we inadvertently killed. Hey, are you thinking what I'm thinking? Now we're getting somewhere. Try this on for size: Those nine were the very children that we were protecting, but, because of the bad people nearby-or, well, somewhere around there-anyway, in that region or that country (is Afghanistan the Middle East?!), oh you know what I mean-we had to drop some bombs. And -and -and they hit that house with the kids in it, and -and -and you see, (oh wait, this is good) if we hadn't done it, the terrorists probably would have, sooner or later! So, voila-We were actually protecting the children, but because the known terrorist wouldn't come out and show him- or herself to our bombers, those poor children got killed instead. The terrorists, you see, killed them, in a manner of speaking. Only one problem remains, and it's an important one, so let's not stop here. Where can we insert some Biblical wording to ease the conscience of any Bush supporter who might be fond of that troublesome "Christ" part of Christianity (compassion, millstone-around-the-neck for those who hurt children, blessed are the merciful, etc.)? Never fear, a quick look at the speeches of our own very, very Christian President may do the trick: "They're nothing but a bunch of cold-blooded killers and that's the way we're going to treat them." George W. Bush, talking to soldiers at the largest US military base, Jan. 3, 2003. OOPS! Never mind that one, strike it from the record please. There MUST be something better, somewhere here in my files, oh, what's this? Let's take a peek: "I know that the families of our military are praying that all those who serve will return safely and soon. Millions of Americans are praying with you for the safety of your loved ones and for the protection of the innocent." George W. Bush, 3/19/03 "Prayer"! That's the ticket! It's on the cover of dozens of bestsellers-believe me, it's highly persuasive at this time. You see, as long as you link the word "prayer" with any kind of activity, and I do mean ANY kind of activity, it becomes "sanctified", in a sense: If you pray that the President's decisions will be right, then, well, think about it! Whatever decision he subsequently makes will be what? Correct, of course, and Godly, too! You wouldn't want to question God, would you? That's why The Presidential Prayer Team: is so successful. When you tell citizens to pray for political figures, this gives millions of well-intentioned Christians the subliminal message that, after praying for their President, whatever their President does or does not do is, ipso facto, the will of God Himself. Could you ask for anything more perfectly designed to squelch doubts or questions or pangs of conscience? Okay, so now let's put it all together to develop our special wording (tactical words are underlined for your convenience): "We regret the loss of any innocent life, and pray that our actions will, in time, help us in our efforts to free the people of Afghanistan and Iraq from the terrorists who threaten their future." Well we're pretty much finished, but, well, doesn't it lack-sparkle? Don't you think it should end with something that sounds righteous, patriotic, maybe even divinely inspired? Let Tess rummage around once more to see if there's anything fitting. Here it is! George W. Bush, in his State of the Union address, Jan. 28, 2003: "For so many in our country -- the homeless and the fatherless, the addicted -- the need is great. Yet there is power, wonder-working power in the goodness, and idealism, and faith of the American people" Ready? Set? Done! Our special wording, presented below, will ease every Bush-supporter's qualms, and even the most ardent Christian's concerns, about those nine little ones who were-well basically, in the wrong place (at home) at the wrong time (when we came a-bombing): "We regret the loss of any innocent life, and pray that our actions will, in time, free the people of Afghanistan and Iraq (insert other countries as desired), from the terrorists who threaten their future. The people of Afghanistan and Iraq and (insert countries) long for freedom, and we are making the sacrifices to bring that freedom to them and to all the people of that troubled part of the world. We know that we will prevail because there is power, wonder-working power in the goodness and mercy of our troops and the American people." Hahahahahahahaha... She's funny. March on Christian soldier, march on.. The kingdom of God is at hand!

So, you propose changing families attitudes about their "honor" and "religion" how? Killing them? Girls are killed by their own families for the most part and if their Suadi Royal Family doesn't want to stop it, what do you propose we do to Saudi Arabia? Attack Iraq? Or does their evil deeds ensure your ticket to heaven? According to the Christian named eddo, sin is sin is sin, so, you guys may want to straighten that out before you decide to hate, condemn, and condone killing people based on the teachings of Jesus. Their governments, which we support those that do as we desire, allow it to continue... How odd.. Guess we don't really give a sh t what they do to their women, do we? Although, it sure helps to rally support, conjure hate based upon religion, and beat the war drums so we can bathe in oil.. How honorable of "us". Heaven awaits your glorious presence! A true believer of Jesus speaks against hate and violence of any and all kinds, not for it. A Christian forgives, not condemns... A Christian loves their enemy... A Christian judges not, lest they be judged according to their judgments and the measure they give will be the measure they receive... Are you a Christian?

We do support the oppressive Suadi/Islamic government. The world is only individuals, ask Jesus. There is no valid argument to support "honor" killings.. It's like trying to help victims families cope by watching someone be fried for killing their loved one.. Barbaric. I don't support violence and people playing God..

Labeling yourself Christian and validating it through other people and organizations will not save your soul. ~ wezus

Do you think a muslim has a different truth/creation than you? And how would Jesus tell you, who label yourselfs Christian, to handle your "enemies"? So what's this about? Validating killing people based on beliefs or showing love, compassion, patience, and tolerance as Jesus commands of you.. Sounds like you want to validate a reason to hate hundreds of millions of people based on beliefs and the actions of a few.. Who's sticking up for Jesus, thus "Christianity" here, me, or you? All I keep hearing is "we're" better than "them" and "we" will kill "them" to prove it. Yeah... Mighty Jesusly of you..

The US government is equating itself with Christianity. Do you deny it? GB got a little heat for using the "crusade" word.. remember?

No, we just humilate rape victims in courts of law and blame them for being too damn sexy..

So, I assume that you guys agree that The U.S. government should not support, and be in bed with the Saudi Royal Family who condones killing women for being raped? Sounds like encouragment and acceptance to me.. "They", Saudis, are the ones who attacked our country..