wez

Honestly, I have no idea what Obama proposes..and don't think it matters. Really, how much control does one man have over our economy? If anyone did/does it was the bubble man Greenspan and Ben Shalom.. Didn't see federal reserve officers on the ballot.. Don't remember voting for Hank (bailout) Paulson either.. Who the fukk are these bastard people? Awww hell.. no need to worry.. Ben Shalom will print us out of this mess..

Our so called political leaders and business leaders made the choice for me it appears.. Why weren't they complaining rather than jumping onboard? Setting standards for what could come here to be sold? A world economy needs world standards.. Looks like we chose the standards to live by.. Those of China and India.. I don't think pollution is gonna stop at the border..

ooops.. Almost forgot.. Those poor lowly millionaire players and billionaire owner of the Minnesota Twins are getting a handout too.. See, they can't afford to build their own playground to charge us $8 for hotdog and $10 for a beer on top of a $50 ticket to the game, so we get to pay for that too.. The Vikings will be the next in the soup line for a new stadium.. Isn't free market capitalism great! Build it and they will come.. or else I've had it.. I'm on the next flight to Mars..

I'd like to know why practically every American company produces almost everything overseas now.. What American products are 100% made in America anymore? Who gets the tax breaks? Who the hell knows.. Buddies of politicians like Ken Lay from Enron? Who gets handouts? Money lenders.. Insurance companies.. investment firms.. people like Ken Lay from Enron... people who produce jack sh t.

You know, we all argue about socialism and capitalism and free markets but the fact is, the working people of this country have poured ungodly amounts of money into the government through their labor for over a century for a supposedly better society for everyone. Who owns it all? Individual capitalists who charge us all out the ass for everything they get from the government .. aka us? Sounds like bullsh t to me.. Prolly why it's crumbling from under they're feet.. What do we have to show for all our combined labor? A big bad arsenal of weapons and fallout shelters for those who would launch them? A big bad army to tell the world how to live, or else? Roads all over hells half acre? Bridges that collapse into the Mississipi? A decaying infrastructure? Debt up the ass? We got fukked somewhere down the line..

I guess this goes back quite a ways.. ever seen that Twilight Zone where the worker was replaced by the robot by his boss.. Then the boss was replaced by a robot who looked just like him down to the twirling watch and voice .. It was that guy who played Fred Rutherford on Leave it to Beaver.. Good episode. Quite prophetic.. Prolly made in the early 60's.. Automation is great, to a point, be grand when machines can consume and spend to keep other machines employed.

If there were any family farms left, just like that.. Wouldn't mind that life at all.. Be more rewarding than punching a clock in a sweatshop..

I don't support bottom up.. I support not labeling people's worth with a dollar figure.. The government will destroy itself, and the rest of us. Why does success have to be defined by money? It's unnatural.. The basics of life should be off limits to exploitation. Shelter, food, clothing.. What the hell good does Paris Hilton do for society? She awfully "successful".. she was born after all..

Yep, by forming unions and sticking together.. striking for better wages.. Demanding a bigger piece of pie for their "labor".. I don't want no one to take anything from anyone.. I just think if people work, they should be able to afford the basics and save something for a time when they get old.. A house needs to cost about what it did in the early 70's.. Deflation, big time.

We'll see how cool it is when our kids gotta go sew jeans for 16 hours a day to feed the family..

I agree.. the bailouts will be the end of us.. Fukk the jobs.. Fukk the car companies.. Fukk the banks.. Fukk Wall street.. Fukk Fanny and Fukk Freddie.. Let the free market work for the first time in the history of humanity.. Can't do that though, too many welfare cases might have to sell one of their homes and cars and actually work for a living.

No one should be given anything.. It's the value that's f cked up.. Tell me, who's more crucial to society, a garbage man or a baseball player? And where did you think I support government doing anything? They're the fukking problem.

Don't need to be rich.. But peoples labor should be their own, not taken and given to billionaires.. I'd say 6 - 15 year old kids who work 16 hours a day for 7 days a week are slaves regardless of the pay. People were not built to work their life away so a few dicks can live in total freedom in the lap of luxery, or else.

It's been reverse Robinhood.. Taking from the poor and giving to the rich for decades.. Workers have value more than 1/100,000,000 or more compared to the average CEO and his buddies for the last 20 years.. Wealth is being, and has been concentrated into fewer and fewer hands for quite some time.. Hardly the recipe for a healthy economy. It's a recipe for slavery..

People need jobs and disposable income to buy those goods.. Demographics are changing.. Old people who had job security and savings aint gonna live forever.. And for the young, the credit well will run dry and come to a point where borrowing is not an option anymore. Already happening.. Most people under 50 got a long ways to go to get to broke.

Top down doesn't work.. they'll cut off their nose to spite their face in an endless search to "cut costs".. which = cutting people and jobs and going where slavery is acceptable.. Those'll be the customers after they riot for better wages and protection like people did here in the 50's.. What's gonna happen to us? Who knows.. 3rd world livin'?

It's gotta happen.. All this crap to prevent it only makes things worse. Can't print and bailout our way to prosperity..

They've been doing it for the last 15 - 20 years.. Whatever.. Their slaves can buy their sh t once they run out of Americans who actually have some money.. Wont be long.. Most are prolly over 50 already..

Gonna have to get that way here too...

No one wants to move to India.. Aint gonna get better til we start actually producing things again. Problem is, gotta compete with slave labor.. It's a dilemma Big fat dose of deflation is what the Doctor ordered..

I'd say our unemployment rate is higher than what they say.. They quit counting people who give up looking for jobs and run out of unemployment benifits for one.. Toss in the underemployed and it gets even uglier.

Hahahaha... Least the monks didn't mutilate each other.. yet. So what would you have the perv do/say? Kill and maim because might = right? I'd say anyone who thinks that needs to do their own killing instead of cheering on impressionable kids.. Appears those Monks are frauds arguing over who controls Jesus Inc.. Run away fast..

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I think your cloak has been cursed with paranoia. ~ wez

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