A SIMPLE GOD QUESTION

[Dan Wood]

"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 12:35:08 -0400, "Dan Wood" <danwood34@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Bill M" <wmech@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> >news:JEBRg.36581$KR1.26538@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
> >> A very simple god question.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> There are thousands of gods and god beliefs.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Why does not the real god tell us directly from his heaven that he is
the
> >> real god and all the others are fakes?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Why does he not smite and destroy the fake gods?
> >>
> >Why is it important to you to spread the sad, depressing
> >news of atheism IOW why do you feel the need to be an
> >evangelist of atheism? This seems to be your _mission_ ,
> >why?
>
> Why is it important to you to lie about atheists, to our faces?
>
> What "sad, depressing news", deliberately nasty liar?
>
Atheism my friend. It has no positive value.
>
> >Dan Wood
> >>
> >

 

[Christopher A. Lee]

On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 14:38:06 -0400, "Dan Wood" <danwood34@gmail.com>
wrote:

>
>"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
>news:n3qih2hqorn0babp7ccjm4spvmrbqnbd0f@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 12:35:08 -0400, "Dan Wood" <danwood34@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"Bill M" <wmech@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>> >news:JEBRg.36581$KR1.26538@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
>> >> A very simple god question.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> There are thousands of gods and god beliefs.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Why does not the real god tell us directly from his heaven that he is
>the
>> >> real god and all the others are fakes?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Why does he not smite and destroy the fake gods?
>> >>
>> >Why is it important to you to spread the sad, depressing
>> >news of atheism IOW why do you feel the need to be an
>> >evangelist of atheism? This seems to be your _mission_ ,
>> >why?
>>
>> Why is it important to you to lie about atheists, to our faces?

Well?

>> What "sad, depressing news", deliberately nasty liar?
>>
>Atheism my friend. It has no positive value.

It doesn't claim to, moron. Unlike your fantasies which claim to but
don't either.

How is that "sad, depressing news", deliberately nasty liar?

And how is not believing in Santa Claus "sad, depressing news"?
BEcause t here is no difference between that and not believing the
deity of somebody else's religion.

Finally, you are no friend of mine. My friends don't lie about
atheists (ie me) to my face.

>> >Dan Wood
>> >>
>> >
>

 

[Dan Wood]

"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:82tih2do5sc5kksbqkancb03crg61bc920@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 14:38:06 -0400, "Dan Wood" <danwood34@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
> >news:n3qih2hqorn0babp7ccjm4spvmrbqnbd0f@4ax.com...
> >> On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 12:35:08 -0400, "Dan Wood" <danwood34@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >"Bill M" <wmech@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> >> >news:JEBRg.36581$KR1.26538@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
> >> >> A very simple god question.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> There are thousands of gods and god beliefs.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Why does not the real god tell us directly from his heaven that he
is
> >the
> >> >> real god and all the others are fakes?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Why does he not smite and destroy the fake gods?
> >> >>
> >> >Why is it important to you to spread the sad, depressing
> >> >news of atheism IOW why do you feel the need to be an
> >> >evangelist of atheism? This seems to be your _mission_ ,
> >> >why?
> >>
> >> Why is it important to you to lie about atheists, to our faces?
>
> Well?
>
> >> What "sad, depressing news", deliberately nasty liar?
> >>
> >Atheism my friend. It has no positive value.
>
> It doesn't claim to, moron. Unlike your fantasies which claim to but
> don't either.
>
> How is that "sad, depressing news", deliberately nasty liar?
>
> And how is not believing in Santa Claus "sad, depressing news"?
> BEcause t here is no difference between that and not believing the
> deity of somebody else's religion.
>
> Finally, you are no friend of mine. My friends don't lie about
> atheists (ie me) to my face.
>
I am the best friend you have! Anyway,
You stated above, "it (atheism) doesn't claim to", therefore
it is not a lie.
I haven't lied. Liers are accountable to their God. You also
will be accountable.

Dan
>
> >> >Dan Wood
> >> >>
> >> >
> >

 

[Neil Kelsey]

Dan Wood wrote:
> "Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
> news:82tih2do5sc5kksbqkancb03crg61bc920@4ax.com...
> > On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 14:38:06 -0400, "Dan Wood" <danwood34@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
> > >news:n3qih2hqorn0babp7ccjm4spvmrbqnbd0f@4ax.com...
> > >> On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 12:35:08 -0400, "Dan Wood" <danwood34@gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >
> > >> >"Bill M" <wmech@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> > >> >news:JEBRg.36581$KR1.26538@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
> > >> >> A very simple god question.
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> There are thousands of gods and god beliefs.
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Why does not the real god tell us directly from his heaven that he
> is
> > >the
> > >> >> real god and all the others are fakes?
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Why does he not smite and destroy the fake gods?
> > >> >>
> > >> >Why is it important to you to spread the sad, depressing
> > >> >news of atheism IOW why do you feel the need to be an
> > >> >evangelist of atheism? This seems to be your _mission_ ,
> > >> >why?
> > >>
> > >> Why is it important to you to lie about atheists, to our faces?
> >
> > Well?
> >
> > >> What "sad, depressing news", deliberately nasty liar?
> > >>
> > >Atheism my friend. It has no positive value.
> >
> > It doesn't claim to, moron. Unlike your fantasies which claim to but
> > don't either.
> >
> > How is that "sad, depressing news", deliberately nasty liar?
> >
> > And how is not believing in Santa Claus "sad, depressing news"?
> > BEcause t here is no difference between that and not believing the
> > deity of somebody else's religion.
> >
> > Finally, you are no friend of mine. My friends don't lie about
> > atheists (ie me) to my face.
> >
> I am the best friend you have! Anyway,
> You stated above, "it (atheism) doesn't claim to", therefore
> it is not a lie.
> I haven't lied. Liers are accountable to their God. You also
> will be accountable.
>
> Dan

Does your god know you're running around loose? If I were him, I'd
think twice before using you as my spokesman.

 

[Christopher A. Lee]

On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 18:15:01 -0400, "Dan Wood" <danwood34@gmail.com>
wrote:

>
>"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
>news:82tih2do5sc5kksbqkancb03crg61bc920@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 14:38:06 -0400, "Dan Wood" <danwood34@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
>> >news:n3qih2hqorn0babp7ccjm4spvmrbqnbd0f@4ax.com...
>> >> On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 12:35:08 -0400, "Dan Wood" <danwood34@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >"Bill M" <wmech@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>> >> >news:JEBRg.36581$KR1.26538@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
>> >> >> A very simple god question.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> There are thousands of gods and god beliefs.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Why does not the real god tell us directly from his heaven that he
>is
>> >the
>> >> >> real god and all the others are fakes?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Why does he not smite and destroy the fake gods?
>> >> >>
>> >> >Why is it important to you to spread the sad, depressing
>> >> >news of atheism IOW why do you feel the need to be an
>> >> >evangelist of atheism? This seems to be your _mission_ ,
>> >> >why?
>> >>
>> >> Why is it important to you to lie about atheists, to our faces?
>>
>> Well?
>>
>> >> What "sad, depressing news", deliberately nasty liar?
>> >>
>> >Atheism my friend. It has no positive value.
>>
>> It doesn't claim to, moron. Unlike your fantasies which claim to but
>> don't either.
>>
>> How is that "sad, depressing news", deliberately nasty liar?
>>
>> And how is not believing in Santa Claus "sad, depressing news"?
>> BEcause t here is no difference between that and not believing the
>> deity of somebody else's religion.
>>
>> Finally, you are no friend of mine. My friends don't lie about
>> atheists (ie me) to my face.
>>
>I am the best friend you have! Anyway,

Liar.

>You stated above, "it (atheism) doesn't claim to", therefore
>it is not a lie.

It was a straw man used as a lie.

>I haven't lied. Liers are accountable to their God. You also
>will be accountable.

You're certifiably insane.

>Dan
>>
>> >> >Dan Wood
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >
>

 

[Dan Wood]

"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:mibjh2lgt490d4pjotjd09me3au65b81rc@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 18:15:01 -0400, "Dan Wood" <danwood34@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
> >news:82tih2do5sc5kksbqkancb03crg61bc920@4ax.com...
> >> On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 14:38:06 -0400, "Dan Wood" <danwood34@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
> >> >news:n3qih2hqorn0babp7ccjm4spvmrbqnbd0f@4ax.com...
> >> >> On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 12:35:08 -0400, "Dan Wood" <danwood34@gmail.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >"Bill M" <wmech@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> >> >> >news:JEBRg.36581$KR1.26538@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
> >> >> >> A very simple god question.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> There are thousands of gods and god beliefs.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Why does not the real god tell us directly from his heaven that
he
> >is
> >> >the
> >> >> >> real god and all the others are fakes?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Why does he not smite and destroy the fake gods?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >Why is it important to you to spread the sad, depressing
> >> >> >news of atheism IOW why do you feel the need to be an
> >> >> >evangelist of atheism? This seems to be your _mission_ ,
> >> >> >why?
> >> >>
> >> >> Why is it important to you to lie about atheists, to our faces?
> >>
> >> Well?
> >>
> >> >> What "sad, depressing news", deliberately nasty liar?
> >> >>
> >> >Atheism my friend. It has no positive value.
> >>
> >> It doesn't claim to, moron. Unlike your fantasies which claim to but
> >> don't either.
> >>
> >> How is that "sad, depressing news", deliberately nasty liar?
> >>
> >> And how is not believing in Santa Claus "sad, depressing news"?
> >> BEcause t here is no difference between that and not believing the
> >> deity of somebody else's religion.
> >>
> >> Finally, you are no friend of mine. My friends don't lie about
> >> atheists (ie me) to my face.
> >>
> >I am the best friend you have! Anyway,
>
> Liar.
>
> >You stated above, "it (atheism) doesn't claim to", therefore
> >it is not a lie.
>
> It was a straw man used as a lie.
>
> >I haven't lied. Liers are accountable to their God. You also
> >will be accountable.
>
> You're certifiably insane.
>
That's no way to talk to a friend, Pal. Keep it up and you
will have zero friends.
>
> >Dan
> >>
> >> >> >Dan Wood
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >
> >

 

[Dan Wood]

"Neil Kelsey" <neil_kelsey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1159310435.625370.59820@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> Dan Wood wrote:
> > "Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
> > news:82tih2do5sc5kksbqkancb03crg61bc920@4ax.com...
> > > On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 14:38:06 -0400, "Dan Wood" <danwood34@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
> > > >news:n3qih2hqorn0babp7ccjm4spvmrbqnbd0f@4ax.com...
> > > >> On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 12:35:08 -0400, "Dan Wood"
<danwood34@gmail.com>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> >
> > > >> >"Bill M" <wmech@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> > > >> >news:JEBRg.36581$KR1.26538@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
> > > >> >> A very simple god question.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> There are thousands of gods and god beliefs.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Why does not the real god tell us directly from his heaven that
he
> > is
> > > >the
> > > >> >> real god and all the others are fakes?
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Why does he not smite and destroy the fake gods?
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >Why is it important to you to spread the sad, depressing
> > > >> >news of atheism IOW why do you feel the need to be an
> > > >> >evangelist of atheism? This seems to be your _mission_ ,
> > > >> >why?
> > > >>
> > > >> Why is it important to you to lie about atheists, to our faces?
> > >
> > > Well?
> > >
> > > >> What "sad, depressing news", deliberately nasty liar?
> > > >>
> > > >Atheism my friend. It has no positive value.
> > >
> > > It doesn't claim to, moron. Unlike your fantasies which claim to but
> > > don't either.
> > >
> > > How is that "sad, depressing news", deliberately nasty liar?
> > >
> > > And how is not believing in Santa Claus "sad, depressing news"?
> > > BEcause t here is no difference between that and not believing the
> > > deity of somebody else's religion.
> > >
> > > Finally, you are no friend of mine. My friends don't lie about
> > > atheists (ie me) to my face.
> > >
> > I am the best friend you have! Anyway,
> > You stated above, "it (atheism) doesn't claim to", therefore
> > it is not a lie.
> > I haven't lied. Liers are accountable to their God. You also
> > will be accountable.
> >
> > Dan
>
> Does your god know you're running around loose? If I were him, I'd
> think twice before using you as my spokesman.
>
And this is a concern of your: how? You know nothing!

Dan Wood, DDS
>

 

[Abu Hamza]

Bill M wrote:
> "Abu Hamza" <ali711@sunnipath.com> wrote in message
> news:1159249224.967733.15090@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > Bill M wrote:
> >> A very simple god question.
> >
> >> There are thousands of gods and god beliefs.
> >
> >> Why does not the real god tell us directly from his heaven that he is the
> >> real god and all the others are fakes?
> >
> >> Why does he not smite and destroy the fake gods?
> >
> > The Islamic answer is very simple. God created Man and gave him some
> > autonomy and faculties to reason, reflect, acquire knowledge unlike His
> > other creation (Angels, Heavens, Earth, Animals, Plants etc ). With
> > this came responsibility, so God tested Man to see whether he submits
> > to Him willfully or rebels or denies His existence and/or authority. He
> > also sent Messengers and revealed books to make the straight path clear
> > for any one who wishes to follow it. Had God told directly from heaven
> > that He is the ultimate reality/Truth (Al-Haq) or destroy all other
> > fake gods than the point of testing would be useless and everybody
> > would believe.
> > Simply put, if the correct answers are provided before an examination
> > everybody will pass the exam, intelligent, hardworking or lazy/dumb.
>
> It sounds like your god enjoys playing cruel games with his creations!

Cruel games ?

You mean all the schools, colleges, universities, the teachers, text
books play cruel games with young people ?

 

[bob young]

Abu Hamza wrote:

> Bill M wrote:
> > "Abu Hamza" <ali711@sunnipath.com> wrote in message
> > news:1159249224.967733.15090@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
> > >
> > > Bill M wrote:
> > >> A very simple god question.
> > >
> > >> There are thousands of gods and god beliefs.
> > >
> > >> Why does not the real god tell us directly from his heaven that he is the
> > >> real god and all the others are fakes?
> > >
> > >> Why does he not smite and destroy the fake gods?
> > >
> > > The Islamic answer is very simple. God created Man and gave him some
> > > autonomy and faculties to reason, reflect, acquire knowledge unlike His
> > > other creation (Angels, Heavens, Earth, Animals, Plants etc ). With
> > > this came responsibility, so God tested Man to see whether he submits
> > > to Him willfully or rebels or denies His existence and/or authority. He
> > > also sent Messengers and revealed books to make the straight path clear
> > > for any one who wishes to follow it. Had God told directly from heaven
> > > that He is the ultimate reality/Truth (Al-Haq) or destroy all other
> > > fake gods than the point of testing would be useless and everybody
> > > would believe.
> > > Simply put, if the correct answers are provided before an examination
> > > everybody will pass the exam, intelligent, hardworking or lazy/dumb.

How simply moronic. It is indeed strange how otherwise intelligent human beings
can fall for mythology provided it is pushed down their throats hard enough by
parents and peers.

Let me tell you something, Had you been unfortunate enough as a two year old to
have been orphaned and had you then been adopted by a Hindu family; your god
would now have the body of a woman and the head of an elephant.

Grow up

>
> >
> > It sounds like your god enjoys playing cruel games with his creations!
>
> Cruel games ?
>
> You mean all the schools, colleges, universities, the teachers, text
> books play cruel games with young people ?

 

[Christopher A. Lee]

On 27 Sep 2006 05:19:02 -0500, bob young <alaspectrum@netvigator.com>
wrote:

>
>
>Abu Hamza wrote:
>
>> Bill M wrote:
>> > "Abu Hamza" <ali711@sunnipath.com> wrote in message
>> > news:1159249224.967733.15090@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
>> > >
>> > > Bill M wrote:
>> > >> A very simple god question.
>> > >
>> > >> There are thousands of gods and god beliefs.
>> > >
>> > >> Why does not the real god tell us directly from his heaven that he is the
>> > >> real god and all the others are fakes?
>> > >
>> > >> Why does he not smite and destroy the fake gods?
>> > >
>> > > The Islamic answer is very simple. God created Man and gave him some
>> > > autonomy and faculties to reason, reflect, acquire knowledge unlike His
>> > > other creation (Angels, Heavens, Earth, Animals, Plants etc ). With
>> > > this came responsibility, so God tested Man to see whether he submits
>> > > to Him willfully or rebels or denies His existence and/or authority. He
>> > > also sent Messengers and revealed books to make the straight path clear
>> > > for any one who wishes to follow it. Had God told directly from heaven
>> > > that He is the ultimate reality/Truth (Al-Haq) or destroy all other
>> > > fake gods than the point of testing would be useless and everybody
>> > > would believe.
>> > > Simply put, if the correct answers are provided before an examination
>> > > everybody will pass the exam, intelligent, hardworking or lazy/dumb.
>
>How simply moronic. It is indeed strange how otherwise intelligent human beings
>can fall for mythology provided it is pushed down their throats hard enough by
>parents and peers.

Even more so that they expect everybody else to fall for it, and treat
those who don't as sub-normal.

>Let me tell you something, Had you been unfortunate enough as a two year old to
>have been orphaned and had you then been adopted by a Hindu family; your god
>would now have the body of a woman and the head of an elephant.
>
>Grow up
>
>>
>> >
>> > It sounds like your god enjoys playing cruel games with his creations!
>>
>> Cruel games ?
>>
>> You mean all the schools, colleges, universities, the teachers, text
>> books play cruel games with young people ?

 

[stefanbanev@yahoo.com]

Bill M wrote:
> A very simple god question.
>
>
>
> There are thousands of gods and god beliefs.
>
>
>
> Why does not the real god tell us directly from his heaven that he is the
> real god and all the others are fakes?
>
>
>
> Why does he not smite and destroy the fake gods?

Why you think God should care about people's interpretation of him?
Probably because you assume that God is our creator so, Father should
care about its child. Why you think that this assumption is correct?
The notions such as "good"/"bad" are purely a product of
natural selection among tribes/ethnics/societies. You can not apply
notion such as "Good Christian" to mitochondrial DNA. However
"you" can apply "your" notions to "your" God which is
ultimately a product of "your" imagination.

 

[Christopher A. Lee]

On 26 Sep 2006 08:53:40 -0700, jason.woudsma@gmail.com wrote:

>there would then be no need for faith

Why is there "need for faith"? It's a dishonest attempt to turn the
complete absence of any evidence, reason to believe etc , into a
virtue - that believers then hide behind, after they have rubbed their
belief in people's faces and been told to either put up or shut up.

 

[gatekeeper]

Christopher A. Lee wrote:
> On 26 Sep 2006 08:53:40 -0700, jason.woudsma@gmail.com wrote:
>
> >there would then be no need for faith
>
> Why is there "need for faith"? It's a dishonest attempt to turn the
> complete absence of any evidence, reason to believe etc , into a
> virtue - that believers then hide behind, after they have rubbed their
> belief in people's faces and been told to either put up or shut up.

I would like to invite you to the party next week, seems you need to
get a new Life!

The Eastgate is open, the King is in residence! Whomsoever will, may
come in!

Gatekeeper

 

[Christopher A. Lee]

On 29 Sep 2006 02:01:30 -0700, "gatekeeper"
<gatekeeper.eastgate@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>Christopher A. Lee wrote:
>> On 26 Sep 2006 08:53:40 -0700, jason.woudsma@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> >there would then be no need for faith
>>
>> Why is there "need for faith"? It's a dishonest attempt to turn the
>> complete absence of any evidence, reason to believe etc , into a
>> virtue - that believers then hide behind, after they have rubbed their
>> belief in people's faces and been told to either put up or shut up.
>
>I would like to invite you to the party next week, seems you need to
>get a new Life!
>
>The Eastgate is open, the King is in residence! Whomsoever will, may
>come in!
>
>Gatekeeper

Idiot.

 

[Shiloh's Man]

In article <1159140632.074280.255990@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
chiron613@gmail.com wrote:

> Good question, Bill. Just wondering, though - how would we be able to
> know if it was really God who told us, directly from heaven?
>
> You already have plenty of people who claim to have a direct line to
> heaven. Of course, no two of these folks actually say the same thing,
> so probably most of them are wrong - maybe all of them.
>
> How can you tell that ANYONE is reporting correctly about God, or
> even about the news? You really can't, unless you were an eyewitness
> and know the truth for yourself. And if you were an eyewitness, you
> have no need of someone else telling you what happened.
>
> Probably the best thing to do is to get your answer directly from God.
>
> If you don't think you can do that, then you need to look at fruit of
> the message - what do the people with a particular message do with it,
> what happens with them? Do they behave lovingly, kindly, patiently,
> honestly, peacefully? Or are they arrogant, mean-spirited, dishonest,
> violent?
>
> The fake gods are what we choose to worship. Money is a good thing,
> for example, when it is a tool we use. As a god, it is a terrible
> thing. Some people worship money and sacrifice their health,
> marriages, children, friends, etc. for it. To these people, money is a
> false god. But money itself is not evil (nor the root of all evil;
> that quote is properly, "For the LOVE of money is the root of all
> evil").
>
> The false gods are within us; we choose to worship things that are not
> God, but that doesn't make those things unholy. It only makes our
> relationship with them unholy.
>
>
> Bill M wrote:
> > A very simple god question.
> >
> >
> >
> > There are thousands of gods and god beliefs.
> >
> >
> >
> > Why does not the real god tell us directly from his heaven that he is the
> > real god and all the others are fakes?
> >
> >
> >
> > Why does he not smite and destroy the fake gods?


Well said... friend... well said.

--
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"I sought the fount of fire in hollow reed Hid privily,
a measureless resource For man, and mighty teacher of all arts."
- Prometheus Bound by Aeschylus -

 

[Libertarius]

gatekeeper wrote:

> Christopher A. Lee wrote:
>
>>On 26 Sep 2006 08:53:40 -0700, jason.woudsma@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>
>>>there would then be no need for faith
>>
>>Why is there "need for faith"? It's a dishonest attempt to turn the
>>complete absence of any evidence, reason to believe etc , into a
>>virtue - that believers then hide behind, after they have rubbed their
>>belief in people's faces and been told to either put up or shut up.
>
>
> I would like to invite you to the party next week, seems you need to
> get a new Life!
>
> The Eastgate is open, the King is in residence! Whomsoever will, may
> come in!

===>Only if one needs a latrine,
to which your "Eastgate" opens. -- L.

 

[Libertarius]

V A P O L L U A N wrote:

> Bill M wrote:
>
>>A very simple god question.
>>
>>
>>
>>There are thousands of gods and god beliefs.
>>
>>
>>
>>Why does not the real god tell us directly from his heaven that he is the
>>real god and all the others are fakes?
>>
>>
>>
>>Why does he not smite and destroy the fake gods?
>
>
> Good question.I thinK James Randi ought to challenge anyone to prove
> their gods are real.I doubt anyone (else) can!
>
===>There has been only one person who was able to do
that, and he did it by identifying "God" with NATURE,
i.e. the COSMOS, ALL THAT EXISTS, not some super-natural
extra-cosmic anthropoid deity that only exists in the heads
of believers.

Even Albert Einstein accepted the fact that THAT particular
"God" was "real", and said he believed in "Spinoza's God". -- L.

 

[Libertarius]

Sphere wrote:

> Bill M wrote:
>
>>A very simple god question.
>>
>>
>>
>>There are thousands of gods and god beliefs.
>>
>>
>>
>>Why does not the real god tell us directly from his heaven that he is the
>>real god and all the others are fakes?
>>
>>
>>
>>Why does he not smite and destroy the fake gods?
>
>
> The real One God of Christianity and the real One
> God of Islam are busy smiting each other right
> now.

===>The same Near-Eastern story repeated.
See the story of King Mesha of Moab. -- L.

 

[Pastor Frank]

"Abu Hamza" <ali711@sunnipath.com> wrote in message
news:1159249224.967733.15090@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
> Bill M wrote:
>>
>> A very simple god question.
>> There are thousands of gods and god beliefs.
>> Why does not the real god tell us directly from his heaven that he is the
>> real god and all the others are fakes?
>> Why does he not smite and destroy the fake gods?
>
> The Islamic answer is very simple. God created Man
><snip>
>
Yet Muslims apparently do not regards Allah as their Father which is in
heaven, nor do they regard themselves His beloved sons and/or daughters.
They say: Allah has no progeny, like i.e Christ, whom we regard as God's
only begotten son. Allah has only slaves to do His bidding in fear and
trepidation.

 

[Father Haskell]

Abu Hamza wrote:
> Bill M wrote:
> > "Abu Hamza" <ali711@sunnipath.com> wrote in message
> > news:1159249224.967733.15090@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
> > >
> > > Bill M wrote:
> > >> A very simple god question.
> > >
> > >> There are thousands of gods and god beliefs.
> > >
> > >> Why does not the real god tell us directly from his heaven that he is the
> > >> real god and all the others are fakes?
> > >
> > >> Why does he not smite and destroy the fake gods?
> > >
> > > The Islamic answer is very simple. God created Man and gave him some
> > > autonomy and faculties to reason, reflect, acquire knowledge unlike His
> > > other creation (Angels, Heavens, Earth, Animals, Plants etc ). With
> > > this came responsibility, so God tested Man to see whether he submits
> > > to Him willfully or rebels or denies His existence and/or authority. He
> > > also sent Messengers and revealed books to make the straight path clear
> > > for any one who wishes to follow it. Had God told directly from heaven
> > > that He is the ultimate reality/Truth (Al-Haq) or destroy all other
> > > fake gods than the point of testing would be useless and everybody
> > > would believe.
> > > Simply put, if the correct answers are provided before an examination
> > > everybody will pass the exam, intelligent, hardworking or lazy/dumb.
> >
> > It sounds like your god enjoys playing cruel games with his creations!
>
> Cruel games ?
>
> You mean all the schools, colleges, universities, the teachers, text
> books play cruel games with young people ?

Oh, dear. You really DO want to move us all back to the
12th century.