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Jhony5
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My sense of humor is far from sane. I got those jokes from a very popular joke book authored by Blanche Knott called truly tasteless jokes. Jokes like that are harmless as long as they are not directed at anyone personally for the purpose of hurting them. Without my humor I would find the tragedies of life to be crushing.
snafu
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abortion should only be acceptable if the mother is in danger of her life.
Murder is murder is murder. I don't know any other way to see it. If the women was rapped that child still deserves to live. The mother should realize that that fetus is a living human being. It didn't asked to be created. The mother can come to term and then give the baby up for adoption. Their is no need to murder the child.
But I won't judge a women for what they've done wrong. Society has accepted this kind of murder and so they no not what they've done.
Murder is murder is murder. I don't know any other way to see it. If the women was rapped that child still deserves to live. The mother should realize that that fetus is a living human being. It didn't asked to be created. The mother can come to term and then give the baby up for adoption. Their is no need to murder the child.
But I won't judge a women for what they've done wrong. Society has accepted this kind of murder and so they no not what they've done.
I think it's entirely the woman's right. Ragrdless of the circumstance. It's never as simple as just have the baby and then give it up. That's going through 9 months of a child growing inside your belly. And if it's not even a question of wanting it? what if one absolutely could not support a child and had to give it up if they didn't want to. I think that to be pretty unfair. Then again I don't see a child having rights at less than 20 weeks after conception. 20 weeks being a general limit to when doctors will perform abortions unless the woman and/or baby are in danger. I just don't think a woman should be forced to go through it if she really absolutely does not want to.
Jhony5
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A baby, a life is not an IT. Not a possession of the lady whom simply hosts the parasite until its disposal is deemed convenient. Please choose your wording more carefully and do not forget that you are talking about a living being, much the same as mothers of aborted mistakes/babies choose to think of them.
TooDrunkToFuck
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One thing I'm not clear on is whether or not legal abortions take place before or after a fetus has exhibited all 5 signs of life. If it happens before, then it's not neccessarily that far removed from jacking off or using a condom, morality-wise. If it happens afterward, then you are actually destroying a life.
Personally, I find abortion appalling, but I wouldn't want it outlawed since IMO that would do more harm than good. It would be like drugs; more harmful illegal than legal. Women would be dying in back alleys. Maybe greater funding/promotion to/of adoption programs would help.
Personally, I find abortion appalling, but I wouldn't want it outlawed since IMO that would do more harm than good. It would be like drugs; more harmful illegal than legal. Women would be dying in back alleys. Maybe greater funding/promotion to/of adoption programs would help.
snafu
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20 months? I think your thinking weeks and are you ***? Who the **** made a limit?
After about six weeks, a brain pattern can be detected. The ***** has only 9 months to deal with it. I know that must be hard but were talking about KILLING A HUMAN BEING!!!
She'll live threw it and if she was raped I'm sure she'll need a shrink anyway.
What a cop out. "She's gotta carry it for nine months." blah blah blah.... selfish *****!!
And another thing. As a man I have every right to see my baby come to term too. So **** you and your womens rights!!
I believe there are thousands of different reasons a woman might want to have an abortion. They can have opinions coming left and right and of course their families and the father of the child have an opinion, but when it comes down to it, she should have that right.
Nearly 90% of abortions are performed before 12 weeks, and over 95% done in the first 20 weeks. This means that most are done in the first trimester while a very low percentage that are done after roughly 5 months. As far as I know third term abortions are absolutely not performed unless there is serious danger to the baby and/or mother. Brain wave activity is apparent at about the 6th week but it is not fully developed. Fetal stage begins at roughly 8 weeks. Most abortions occur before the babies brain, and vital organs have come close fully developing, and the baby could not live outside of the womb until around the 25th-28th week of pregnancy. Which again, means most abortions would occur over a month prior to this time. I appologize if I offend, but I don't consider a child to be a life until around this point. I consider it to be a potential life. I wouldn't agree for any third trimester abortion unless it was for serious medical reasons, and late second is really pushing it.
I personally have no idea what I would do were I to get pregnant at this very moment in time. In all honesty, I would probably have the child. However, I still feel that I have the right to terminate the pregnancy if I so choose. As I believe every other woman should.
Nearly 90% of abortions are performed before 12 weeks, and over 95% done in the first 20 weeks. This means that most are done in the first trimester while a very low percentage that are done after roughly 5 months. As far as I know third term abortions are absolutely not performed unless there is serious danger to the baby and/or mother. Brain wave activity is apparent at about the 6th week but it is not fully developed. Fetal stage begins at roughly 8 weeks. Most abortions occur before the babies brain, and vital organs have come close fully developing, and the baby could not live outside of the womb until around the 25th-28th week of pregnancy. Which again, means most abortions would occur over a month prior to this time. I appologize if I offend, but I don't consider a child to be a life until around this point. I consider it to be a potential life. I wouldn't agree for any third trimester abortion unless it was for serious medical reasons, and late second is really pushing it.
I personally have no idea what I would do were I to get pregnant at this very moment in time. In all honesty, I would probably have the child. However, I still feel that I have the right to terminate the pregnancy if I so choose. As I believe every other woman should.
eddo
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Believing that is just enabling the continuing murders of innocent lives. There are no where near that many reasons. In fact, there are just a few:
Danger to mother.
Birth Control.
not wanting to deal with "it".
I would be interested in hearing more "reasons" than those I listed.
Go to an abortion forum and ask the woman that have gone through it. I'm not talking about general, I'm talking about specific reasons women terminate pregnancies. All kinds of financial issues, medical issues, physical issues, emotional issues, the baby could have one of many physical or mental disabilities that one my terminate a pregnancy for, etc...
But again, you call it murdering innocent lives, I call it terminating potential lives.
Actually, this brings up an interesting question. Regardless of ones feelings on general abortion, how would any of you feel about terminating children with certain disabilities?
snafu
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What bunch of ****! Medical issues maybe.
Physical issues? Like what? No brain?
Your so selfish you would kill something becuase of financial problems? Emotional issues?
Adoption you idiot.
I hope you sit back and think what you wrote here. Explain to me what's the difference here.
NO!
Do us all a favor and have them tubes tied of yours, would you?
Just because I believe in the woman's right to abort a child, doesn't mean I would myself thank you very much. I do want children in the future, and maybe some of my opinions will change after experiencing those joys, but my opinions still stand as it is.
And again, your opinion is your opinion, I'm not going to debate yours specifically as I can see you stand very strong where you at. Call me selfish, call me a horrible person, you would be very wrong. I put myself in other people's shoes. I said previously I probably would not have an abortion. In fact, I will change my statement to I would have the child as not only would I be ready, but I would be able to support it.
Though I have to address one thing. You think rape victims should have the baby if they were to get pregnant since heck, what was it, they would have to go through therapy anyway? I think that's the most insensitive piece of **** comment I've heard. The feelings and emotional damage someone goes through, especially since it can be someone you've trusted, I couldn't even begin to imagine having a child after that, because of it. You find a woman whose gone through that ****, look in her face and tell her that.
smutt butt
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Honestly, I didn't quite know what to say to that. However, my very, very good friend is much more opinionated than I am on the subject, and has had much more experience with those who oppose her. And so to quote her after telling her I didn't quite know what to say to someone who just posts a site:
"There is absolutely no argument in that at all, and that by reposting the same bullshit (fake) sites that he's just proving that there is no argument for his opinion whatsoever aside from his blatant ignorance and refusal to accept the rights and beliefs of other people, even if they affect him in no way at all."
This is a debate thread, not a post disturbing sites thread.
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