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TooDrunkToFuck

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I appologize if I offend, but I don't consider a child to be a life until around this point. I consider it to be a potential life.

You do realize that there is an official medical definition of when something is alive, right? There are 5 signs it must show. If it shows all 5, it's alive ... Whether you "consider" it to be or not has no bearing on that fact.

 

Sabella

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You do realize that there is an official medical definition of when something is alive, right? There are 5 signs it must show. If it shows all 5, it's alive ... Whether you "consider" it to be or not has no bearing on that fact.
Usually part of the medical definition of alive contains something about all vital organs being fully functional and the like. A child has yet to have these until after 20 weeks. Close to the time in which I begin to agree that abortion shouldn't be an option unless mother or child are in danger.

 

TooDrunkToFuck

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Actually, my memory was a bit off. There are 6 characteristics of life.

Theme #1 - Cells

 


All living things are composed of one or more cells. Different types of cells have different "jobs" within the organism. Each life form begins from one cell, which then will split. These cells split, and so on. After this has happened several times, differentiation is undergone, when the cells change so that they are not the same thing anymore. Then they are used to begin to put together the final organism, some cells, for example, as the eyes, some as the heart, etc. The only arguable exception to this is viruses. They are not composed of cells, but are said to be "living."


 

 


Theme#2 - Organization


 

 


Complex organization patterns are found in all living organisms. They arrange themselves on very small levels, grouping like things together. On larger levels, they become visible. This also has to do with differentiation, as the cells are organized in a manner that makes sense for the organism after they change to what they’ll be in the final organism.


 

 


Theme#3 - Energy Use


 


All organisms use energy. The sum of the chemical energy they use is called metabolism. This energy is used to carry out everything they do. Autotrophs (plants) use energy from the sun for photosynthesis, to make their own ‘food’ (glucose). Heterotrophs (animals and humans) must ingest food for this purpose.


 

 


Theme#4 - Homeostasis


 


All organisms have stable internal conditions which must be maintained in order to remain alive. These include temperature, water content, heartbeat, and other such things. In a way, this has to do with energy use, because a certain level of energy must be kept within the body at all times. For this, obviously, humans must then ingest food on a regular basis. Not all conditions are for the body to maintain itself; though most are.


 

 


Theme#5 - Growth


 


All organisms grow and change. Cells divide to form new, identical cells. Differentiation happens, as well, when cells mutate into other types of cells, making a more complex organism. Organisms growing, changing, and becoming more complex is called development. Single-celled organisms do grow as well, but they will only become slightly larger – this is nearly unmeasurable.


 

 


Theme#6 - Reproduction


 


All organisms reproduce in order to continue the species' life. This is combining genetic information (in sexual reproduction) or splitting into two organisms (in asexual reproduction) in order to create another of the same species. In sexual reproduction, the new organism will have some characteristics from the mother, and some from father. It may look like either of them, or it may not. In asexual reproduction, the new organism is an exact copy of the first. Sometimes, not every member of a species is able to reproduce. As long as others are (which we know they can, if they still exist today) then it does not threaten the species. (Except for mules, but don't worry about them, they are a bizarre anomoly.)


Once all of these (or in the case of reproduction, perhaps the beginning of the formation of the organs) are met, you have life in the medical definition. Although "life" and being "alive" aren't neccessarily the same thing ... But where did you get this thing about all vital organs being fully functional? I don't think I've heard that one before. AFAIK, people who require medical support to keep breathing are still considered alive.

 

clarity

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medical discoveries are made and theories and definitions change ...

just because medically something is stated as not being alive does not necessarily mean it is not.

 

angie

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medical discoveries are made and theories and definitions change ... just because medically something is stated as not being alive does not necessarily mean it is not.
Yeah, what do those doctors know anyways?? :rolleyes:

 

Phantom

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Children are sacred. PERIOD. Inside the womb, outside the womb. Unless the mother's life is in danger, I would like abortion to be avoided- even in rape cases. Adoption is always an option. Life is not always fair but don't make an innocent pay for the crime committed against you.
 

kokorosenshi

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You're a ******* idiot, Kokothemonkey.
Did your parents have any children that lived?


wow, my post got pretty far, but before i read the most, let me just reply to the royal idiot

ok, obviously you think i think abortions are bad, geez if only you were able to read above a third grade level you would of known that i didnt give my opinion.

I declare thee, royal orleans, royal idiot

 

kokorosenshi

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wow, you guys have some stong opinions, and that site was a bit graphic smutt ****. im still for abortions and i think it should be a womans choice. if she wants the baby, keep it. is she doesnt, well, would you like to be alive after knowing that not even your own mother wanted you.

as for raped victims, some get HIV or AIDS or some other STD, being born with a STD doesnt sound very plesent to me, then again, its up to the woman to keep or not to keep the baby.

for killing the innocent, severly insane people should get their tubes tide or a visectamy, just think of andrea yates and her best friend and you will understand what i am trying to say.

if you think its selfish for the woman to decide whether or not to keep the baby, think about this, whose going through changes and pain. the father and other people whether it be family or friends, have no say at all in getting rid of the baby, but they do have a say in keeping the baby and changing the womans mind, and besides, a guy that would raise a child is more responsible than a guy that is forced to raise a child.

 

RoyalOrleans

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wow, my post got pretty far, but before i read the most, let me just reply to the royal idiot
Monkey see, monkey do.

ok, obviously you think i think abortions are bad, geez if only you were able to read above a third grade level you would of known that i didnt give my opinion.
Believe what you want, everyone knows that I can read at a fifth grade level.

I declare thee, royal orleans, royal idiot
I declare you, Koko the Monkey. Dance and juggle aborted fetuses in your hands.

 

hugo

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Usually part of the medical definition of alive contains something about all vital organs being fully functional and the like. A child has yet to have these until after 20 weeks. Close to the time in which I begin to agree that abortion shouldn't be an option unless mother or child are in danger.
So someone with a mechanical heart is dead?

 

Jhony5

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So someone with a mechanical heart is dead?
I think you missed the keyword in Sabellas post. 'FUNCTIONAL'. As long as a mechanical heart is functional, then they won't be suffering from the symptoms of death. Which include...loss of life....no breathing...cold clammy hands....and rigor of the muscles. I am a ******...end transmission.

 

ParasiteGod

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I know a girl, my age, who had had three abortions by the time we reached sophomore year. Now, I'm glad for abortion because I know this girl. No child should be born knowing that she was its mother. To let such a thing happen is cruel. I'm not going to go into it, but trust me. It's better she aborted them, rather than bring them into the world. Not only would they be hideously deformed, but they'd end up in therapy the rest of their lives. Ever been there? It sucks, trust me.

Now, a horrible story from your own ParasiteGod:

A few days ago I was driving to my grandmother's house. I had just been to the store to get her groceries for her. She has a bad leg and no driver's license, so she can't drive herself to the store and her leg was really bothering her that day.

So I'm driving to her house and on the side of the road I see a man up ahead, who appears to be protesting something. He has a large sign, but from this far away I can't make out the image. I keep driving.

Finally, I'm close enough to make out the image. It's an aborted fetus. I immediately feel hungry.

 

kokorosenshi

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Monkey see, monkey do.
hey, monkeys wont eat the red berries till another monkey does

Believe what you want, everyone knows that I can read at a fifth grade level.
not only is that your highest reading level, its your biggest achievement

I declare you, Koko the Monkey. Dance and juggle aborted fetuses in your hands.
one - you dont even know what my name kokorosenshi means, i'll give you a

clue, its two words and its not english.

two - juggle aborted fetuses, dude, im not as sick as you are in your sad

pathetic little meaningless life

three - it must be hilarious to watch your 30yr dumbass try and read

something, hey, say the word "come" with out gigling like a school girl

 

RoyalOrleans

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hey, monkeys wont eat the red berries till another monkey does
**** like that is what seperates man from ape.

not only is that your highest reading level, its your biggest achievement
How would you know that?

one - you dont even know what my name kokorosenshi means, i'll give you aclue, its two words and its not english.
You want to give me a clue? ****, negro. I have two words for you, but they are English.

two - juggle aborted fetuses, dude, im not as sick as you are in your sadpathetic little meaningless life
Ouch! Ouch! You got me there! I better just shut up and obey the monkey.

three - it must be hilarious to watch your 30yr dumbass try and readsomething, hey, say the word "come" with out gigling like a school girl
Haha! Another zinger, koko. Your posts are definitely on a "try and read" basis.

If I weren't fluent in Monkey-speak and Jive, I would never have figured out your ****** grasp of English.

 

kokorosenshi

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**** like that is what seperates man from ape.
you probably dont know what that means, maybe i should stop making fun of the severely retarded (i.e. royal orleans)

How would you know that?
its you, kind of obvious

You want to give me a clue? ****, negro. I have two words for you, but they are English.
wow, you havent even attemted, ive seen 3rd grades try harder than you.

Ouch! Ouch! You got me there! I better just shut up and obey the monkey.
well, seeing as your dumber than one, hey relax, atleast you can make that claim of being the missing link

Haha! Another zinger, koko. Your posts are definitely on a "try and read" basis.
and you try, read, fail...so sad

If I weren't fluent in Monkey-speak and Jive, I would never have figured out your ****** grasp of English.
well, i knew you would understand it knowing that it is...well...you.
 

RoyalOrleans

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you probably dont know what that means, maybe i should stop making fun of the severely retarded (i.e. royal orleans)
Typical response from a typical ****-mouth.

its you, kind of obvious
I know you, but what am I.

wow, you havent even attemted, ive seen 3rd grades try harder than you.
We don't want to know about your after hours exploits.

well, seeing as your dumber than one, hey relax, atleast you can make that claim of being the missing link
Too late, you beat me to it.

and you try, read, fail...so sad
Maybe I don't try? So how would I read? So how would I fail? So how sad is your grasp of simple ******* punctuation?

well, i knew you would understand it knowing that it is...well...you.
Koko! Stop flinging **** at the patrons.

 

kokorosenshi

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OMG, you must be retarded, i knew you were stupid, but i didnt know you were THAT stupid. your mom should of gotten an abortion while she had the chance, atleast she would do us all a favor
 

RoyalOrleans

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Would someone please throw Koko a banana!!! He has low blood sugar and could start flinging **** any time now! Thanks!

OMG, you must be retarded, i knew you were stupid, but i didnt know you were THAT stupid. your mom should of gotten an abortion while she had the chance, atleast she would do us all a favor
You are pathetic.

You contribute nothing at all.

You are useless.

You are a panty-waste.

Your ogrish transvestite father should've cast his seed upon your mother's face instead.

 
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