Al Gore Wins Nobel Prize!

On Oct 12, 3:38 pm, 465 days till the Shrub is gone
<mr_ant...@see.reply.to> wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 13:32:26 -0700, Jerry Kraus
>
>
>
>
>
> <jkraus_1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >On Oct 12, 3:02 pm, 465 days till the Shrub is gone
> ><mr_ant...@see.reply.to> wrote:
> >> On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 11:59:09 -0700, Jerry Kraus

>
> >> <jkraus_1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> >On Oct 12, 1:06 pm, 465 days till the Shrub is gone
> >> ><mr_ant...@see.reply.to> wrote:
> >> >> On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 10:55:29 -0700, Jerry Kraus

>
> >> >> <jkraus_1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> >> >On Oct 12, 6:28 am, Harry Hope <riv...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> From The Associated Press, 10/12/07:http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/wire/sns-ap-newsbrief,0,14112...

>
> >> >> >> Gore, U.N. Body Win Nobel Peace Prize

>
> >> >> >> OSLO, Norway (AP) --

>
> >> >> >> Former Vice President Al Gore and the U.N.'s Intergovernmental Panel
> >> >> >> on Climate Change won the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize Friday for their
> >> >> >> efforts to spread awareness of man-made climate change and lay the
> >> >> >> foundations for counteracting it.

>
> >> >> >> "I am deeply honored to receive the Nobel Peace Prize," Gore said.

>
> >> >> >> "We face a true planetary emergency. The climate crisis is not a
> >> >> >> political issue, it is a moral and spiritual challenge to all of
> >> >> >> humanity."

>
> >> >> >> __________________________________________

>
> >> >> >> Harry

>
> >> >> >The Nobel Prizes are a bad joke. The Swedes should go back to raiding
> >> >> >coastal villages. It was more socially constructive.

>
> >> >> Killing, raping and stealing is more socially constructive?

>
> >> >> And you wonder why you're called a wingnut.

>
> >> >> --

>
> >> >> "... by opening our borders to large numbers of highly skilled
> >> >> immigrant workers, we would both enhance the skill level of the
> >> >> overall workforce and provide a new source of competition for
> >> >> higher-earning employees, thus driving down their wages."
> >> >> - "The Age of Turbulence" by Alan Greenspan.

>
> >> >> Libertarians and Conservatives believe importing immigrants to drive down wages is good for Americans.

>
> >> >> mr_antone- Hide quoted text -

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> >> >> - Show quoted text -

>
> >> >Actually, I'm not, usually. My point is that confusing the world
> >> >about what is valuable and what is not in science and politics may not
> >> >be the most useful social activity. Let the proof be in the pudding,
> >> >not in highly bureaucratized and politicizied decision making. Or,
> >> >award prizes for specific developments that humanity needs, not just
> >> >some meaningless "best" of the year, like the Oscars.

>
> >> You didn't answer the question, wingnut.

>
> >> >As I say, the Nobel Prizes are a joke.

>
> >> That's why most countries take them seriously.
> >> --

>
> >> "... by opening our borders to large numbers of highly skilled
> >> immigrant workers, we would both enhance the skill level of the
> >> overall workforce and provide a new source of competition for
> >> higher-earning employees, thus driving down their wages."
> >> - "The Age of Turbulence" by Alan Greenspan.

>
> >> Libertarians and Conservatives believe importing immigrants to drive down wages is good for Americans.

>
> >> mr_antone- Hide quoted text -

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> >> - Show quoted text -

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> >Actually, I did. You just can't read.

>
> No you didn't. You have a reading comprehension problem.
> Typical wingnut.
>
> Killing, raping and stealing is more socially constructive?
>
> --
>
> "... by opening our borders to large numbers of highly skilled
> immigrant workers, we would both enhance the skill level of the
> overall workforce and provide a new source of competition for
> higher-earning employees, thus driving down their wages."
> - "The Age of Turbulence" by Alan Greenspan.
>
> Libertarians and Conservatives believe importing immigrants to drive down wages is good for Americans.
>
> mr_antone- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -


They were simply being good capitalists. At least they weren't
spreading disinformation. But, I guess that's too big a word for you
to understand.
 
On Oct 12, 3:50 pm, 465 days till the Shrub is gone
<mr_ant...@see.reply.to> wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 13:34:32 -0700, Jerry Kraus
>
>
>
>
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> <jkraus_1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >On Oct 12, 3:02 pm, 465 days till the Shrub is gone
> ><mr_ant...@see.reply.to> wrote:
> >> On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 11:59:09 -0700, Jerry Kraus

>
> >> <jkraus_1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> >On Oct 12, 1:06 pm, 465 days till the Shrub is gone
> >> ><mr_ant...@see.reply.to> wrote:
> >> >> On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 10:55:29 -0700, Jerry Kraus

>
> >> >> <jkraus_1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> >> >On Oct 12, 6:28 am, Harry Hope <riv...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> From The Associated Press, 10/12/07:http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/wire/sns-ap-newsbrief,0,14112...

>
> >> >> >> Gore, U.N. Body Win Nobel Peace Prize

>
> >> >> >> OSLO, Norway (AP) --

>
> >> >> >> Former Vice President Al Gore and the U.N.'s Intergovernmental Panel
> >> >> >> on Climate Change won the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize Friday for their
> >> >> >> efforts to spread awareness of man-made climate change and lay the
> >> >> >> foundations for counteracting it.

>
> >> >> >> "I am deeply honored to receive the Nobel Peace Prize," Gore said.

>
> >> >> >> "We face a true planetary emergency. The climate crisis is not a
> >> >> >> political issue, it is a moral and spiritual challenge to all of
> >> >> >> humanity."

>
> >> >> >> __________________________________________

>
> >> >> >> Harry

>
> >> >> >The Nobel Prizes are a bad joke. The Swedes should go back to raiding
> >> >> >coastal villages. It was more socially constructive.

>
> >> >> Killing, raping and stealing is more socially constructive?

>
> >> >> And you wonder why you're called a wingnut.

>
> >> >> --

>
> >> >> "... by opening our borders to large numbers of highly skilled
> >> >> immigrant workers, we would both enhance the skill level of the
> >> >> overall workforce and provide a new source of competition for
> >> >> higher-earning employees, thus driving down their wages."
> >> >> - "The Age of Turbulence" by Alan Greenspan.

>
> >> >> Libertarians and Conservatives believe importing immigrants to drive down wages is good for Americans.

>
> >> >> mr_antone- Hide quoted text -

>
> >> >> - Show quoted text -

>
> >> >Actually, I'm not, usually. My point is that confusing the world
> >> >about what is valuable and what is not in science and politics may not
> >> >be the most useful social activity. Let the proof be in the pudding,
> >> >not in highly bureaucratized and politicizied decision making. Or,
> >> >award prizes for specific developments that humanity needs, not just
> >> >some meaningless "best" of the year, like the Oscars.

>
> >> You didn't answer the question, wingnut.

>
> >> >As I say, the Nobel Prizes are a joke.

>
> >> That's why most countries take them seriously.
> >> --

>
> >> "... by opening our borders to large numbers of highly skilled
> >> immigrant workers, we would both enhance the skill level of the
> >> overall workforce and provide a new source of competition for
> >> higher-earning employees, thus driving down their wages."
> >> - "The Age of Turbulence" by Alan Greenspan.

>
> >> Libertarians and Conservatives believe importing immigrants to drive down wages is good for Americans.

>
> >> mr_antone- Hide quoted text -

>
> >> - Show quoted text -

>
> >Just out of curiosity, how do you tell what a "country" thinks? Has
> >anyone even done a poll saying "do you take the Nobel Prizes
> >seriously?"

>
> Countries see Noble Prizes as an indication of it's success in
> producing innovators, developers and scientific output.
> Wingnuts excepted.
> --
>
> "... by opening our borders to large numbers of highly skilled
> immigrant workers, we would both enhance the skill level of the
> overall workforce and provide a new source of competition for
> higher-earning employees, thus driving down their wages."
> - "The Age of Turbulence" by Alan Greenspan.
>
> Libertarians and Conservatives believe importing immigrants to drive down wages is good for Americans.
>
> mr_antone- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


Have you ever considered studying grammar? You might find it
interesting. It might help with your obvious dyslexia, as well.
 
On Oct 12, 7:47 am, Kev whines:
...

> On Oct 12, 7:35 am, Clay <clays0nl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> > On Oct 12, 7:28 am, Harry posted:
> > ...

>
> > > Gore Wins Nobel Peace Prize

>
> > > OSLO, Norway ('nuff said) --

>
> > > Former Vice President Al Gore ...won the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize Friday...

>
> > <article snip>

>
> > Leftists support other leftists.

>
> > Stop the presses !!! <LOL>

>
> > DUH !!!

>
> > Too ****ing funny.

>
> > -C-

>
> Can't stand it, can you?


Sure, I can, Kev... I'm the one who said "Leftists support other
leftists". Not only can I "stand" it... I can "understand" the
insanity of the Left.

> The Nobel prize, the most respected prize in the world


==================
Oslo, Norway on December 10, 1994 Yasser Arafat, master terrorist, was
awarded the Nobel Peace Prize...
==================

Your turn, Kev.

Too ****ing funny.

-C-
 
On Oct 12, 10:03 am, that lying leftist, piece-of-**** Brandon K.
Montoya aka Tlalocelotl Tlatoani aka Brandy Moonbeam still doesn't get
it <LOL>:
...

> On Oct 12, 7:25 am, "MoveOn.DemocrapDailyKooK's"
>
> <Democrapk0...@DNC.org> wrote:
> > Al Gore is in great company now.
> > Past nominees include Adolf Hitler, Josef Stalin, Benito, Mussolini and
> > Fidel Castro and Mass Murderer Tookie Williams.

>
> In order for you post to make sense, you should have listed past
> winners, not nominees.


crickets

'nuff said.

Too ****ing funny.

-C-
 
On Oct 12, 9:56 am, that useless, lying leftist, piece-of-**** Brandon
K. Montoya aka Tlalocelotl Tlatoani aka Brandy Moonbeam mumbled (no
one heard his dumbass) <LOL>:
...

> On Oct 12, 5:35 am, Clay <clays0nl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Oct 12, 7:28 am, Harry posted:
> > ...

>
> > > Gore Wins Nobel Peace Prize

>
> > > OSLO, Norway ('nuff said) --

>
> > > Former Vice President Al Gore ...won the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize Friday...

>
> > <article snip>

>
> > Leftists support other leftists.

>
> Maybe Rush will win next time.


crickets

Talking to yourself - AGAIN - Brandy? snicker

Too ****ing funny.

-C-
 
On Oct 12, 2:36 pm, "Joe Irvin" <ji3...@sccoast.net> wrote:
> "Amanda Williams" <p...@fu.com> wrote in message
>
> news:Xns99C75A09C83BAfubar@63.218.45.252...
>
>
>
>
>
> > David Hartung <dhart...@quixnet.net> allegedly said in
> >news:CNqdndb9zKiu_JLanZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@comcast.com:

>
> >> Harry Hope wrote:
> >>> From The Associated Press, 10/12/07:
> >>>http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/wire/sns-ap-newsbrief,0,141121
> >>> 8.story

>
> >>> Gore, U.N. Body Win Nobel Peace Prize

>
> >>> OSLO, Norway (AP) --

>
> >>> Former Vice President Al Gore and the U.N.'s Intergovernmental Panel
> >>> on Climate Change won the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize Friday for their
> >>> efforts to spread awareness of man-made climate change and lay the
> >>> foundations for counteracting it.

>
> >>> "I am deeply honored to receive the Nobel Peace Prize," Gore said.

>
> >>> "We face a true planetary emergency. The climate crisis is not a
> >>> political issue, it is a moral and spiritual challenge to all of
> >>> humanity."

>
> >> This is a very strong indication that the Nobel committee is more
> >> interested in politics than in fact. Gore is a worthless piece of
> >> dung, and the UN is about the same.

>
> > Yeah... Yeah... Yeah... Yeah ... Yadda... Yadda... Yadda...

>
> > Poor davey... can't stand the contrast between little moron georgie
> > dispised world-wide and the REAL President Al Gore honored world wide.

>
> You are mistaken, Bush won both elections. To call him a moron is a
> reflection on you. He won not one but two elections. If he was/is so dumb
> and moronic and won two elections, what does that make your side who
> couldn't stop him in either election. Gore was honored but he is still
> ex-VP and loser to Bush.



Yet another ignorant rightard with the naive idea that political
campaigns are fought and won single-handedly! No wonder you rightards
are considered a little slow -- you can't help spouting off these
ridiculously simple-minded notions!
 
On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 00:50:27 GMT, 3819 Dead
<zepp22113819@finestplanet.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 13:01:24 -1000, "Jerry Okamura"
><okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"465 days till the Shrub is gone" <mr_antone@see.reply.to> wrote in message
>>news:31fvg39rbfumrkdmm83hb5mi9jo8b213mj@4ax.com...
>>> On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 08:15:36 -1000, "Jerry Okamura"
>>> <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>What has that got to do with "peace"?
>>>
>>> The Norwegian Nobel Committee said global warming, "may induce
>>> large-scale migration and lead to greater competition for the earth's
>>> resources. Such changes will place particularly heavy burdens on the
>>> world's most vulnerable countries. There may be increased danger of
>>> violent conflicts and wars, within and between states."
>>>

>>"may" or "may not"? "If" it does then the prize had some basis, "if" it
>>does not, then the prize has no basis?

>
>The Pentagon two years issued a formal report calling global warming a
>severe danger to national and international security. The felt
>competion for food and water and living area caused by global warming
>could trigger numerous wars, and even nuclear war.



Few doubt that there are changes in weather patterns... nobody has
yet shown conclusively that man's activities are the primary cause nor
that anything Gore proposes would have any effect on it...
 
In article <ekrjh3lrmmnrqto697tj4ik55on4at7jin@4ax.com>,
Steve <stevencanyon@lefties.suk.net> wrote:

> On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 00:50:27 GMT, 3819 Dead
> <zepp22113819@finestplanet.com> wrote:
>
> >On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 13:01:24 -1000, "Jerry Okamura"
> ><okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote:
> >
> >>"465 days till the Shrub is gone" <mr_antone@see.reply.to> wrote in
> >>message news:31fvg39rbfumrkdmm83hb5mi9jo8b213mj@4ax.com...
> >>> On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 08:15:36 -1000, "Jerry Okamura"
> >>> <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>What has that got to do with "peace"?
> >>>
> >>> The Norwegian Nobel Committee said global warming, "may induce
> >>> large-scale migration and lead to greater competition for the
> >>> earth's resources. Such changes will place particularly heavy
> >>> burdens on the world's most vulnerable countries. There may be
> >>> increased danger of violent conflicts and wars, within and
> >>> between states."
> >>>
> >>"may" or "may not"? "If" it does then the prize had some basis,
> >>"if" it does not, then the prize has no basis?

> >
> >The Pentagon two years issued a formal report calling global warming
> >a severe danger to national and international security. The felt
> >competion for food and water and living area caused by global
> >warming could trigger numerous wars, and even nuclear war.

>
>
> Few doubt that there are changes in weather patterns... nobody has
> yet shown conclusively that man's activities are the primary cause
> nor that anything Gore proposes would have any effect on it...


The scientists who have been studying the issue have.

Quoting from 3.1 of this IPCC document:
<http://ipcc-wg1.ucar.edu/wg1/Report/AR4WG1_Print_FAQs.pdf>

"Human activities contribute to climate change by causing changes in
Earth's atmosphere in the amounts of greenhouse gases, aerosols (small
particles), and cloudiness. The largest known contribution comes from
the burning of fossil fuels, which releases carbon dioxide gas to the
atmosphere. Greenhouse gases and aerosols affect climate by altering
incoming solar radiation and outgoing infrared (thermal) radiation that
are part of Earth's energy balance. Changing the atmospheric abundance
or properties of these gases and particles can lead to a warming or
cooling of the climate system. Since the start of the industrial era
(about 1750), the overall effect of human activities on climate has
been a warming influence. The human impact on climate during this era
greatly exceeds that due to known changes in natural processes, such as
solar changes and volcanic eruptions."

--

Erich
 
On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 08:47:19 -0400, Steve
<stevencanyon@lefties.suk.net> wrote:

>Few doubt that there are changes in weather patterns


And few doubt there are changes in your lack of
intellect, STEVIELOON

Snicker
 
This might interest you

http://mysite.verizon.net/mhieb/WVFossils/greenhouse_data.html


"Erich" <oetting@qwest.net> wrote in message
news:eek:etting-6D6771.08390620102007@mpls-nnrp-03.inet.qwest.net...
> In article <ekrjh3lrmmnrqto697tj4ik55on4at7jin@4ax.com>,
> Steve <stevencanyon@lefties.suk.net> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 00:50:27 GMT, 3819 Dead
>> <zepp22113819@finestplanet.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 13:01:24 -1000, "Jerry Okamura"
>> ><okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >>"465 days till the Shrub is gone" <mr_antone@see.reply.to> wrote in
>> >>message news:31fvg39rbfumrkdmm83hb5mi9jo8b213mj@4ax.com...
>> >>> On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 08:15:36 -1000, "Jerry Okamura"
>> >>> <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>>What has that got to do with "peace"?
>> >>>
>> >>> The Norwegian Nobel Committee said global warming, "may induce
>> >>> large-scale migration and lead to greater competition for the
>> >>> earth's resources. Such changes will place particularly heavy
>> >>> burdens on the world's most vulnerable countries. There may be
>> >>> increased danger of violent conflicts and wars, within and
>> >>> between states."
>> >>>
>> >>"may" or "may not"? "If" it does then the prize had some basis,
>> >>"if" it does not, then the prize has no basis?
>> >
>> >The Pentagon two years issued a formal report calling global warming
>> >a severe danger to national and international security. The felt
>> >competion for food and water and living area caused by global
>> >warming could trigger numerous wars, and even nuclear war.

>>
>>
>> Few doubt that there are changes in weather patterns... nobody has
>> yet shown conclusively that man's activities are the primary cause
>> nor that anything Gore proposes would have any effect on it...

>
> The scientists who have been studying the issue have.
>
> Quoting from 3.1 of this IPCC document:
> <http://ipcc-wg1.ucar.edu/wg1/Report/AR4WG1_Print_FAQs.pdf>
>
> "Human activities contribute to climate change by causing changes in
> Earth's atmosphere in the amounts of greenhouse gases, aerosols (small
> particles), and cloudiness. The largest known contribution comes from
> the burning of fossil fuels, which releases carbon dioxide gas to the
> atmosphere. Greenhouse gases and aerosols affect climate by altering
> incoming solar radiation and outgoing infrared (thermal) radiation that
> are part of Earth's energy balance. Changing the atmospheric abundance
> or properties of these gases and particles can lead to a warming or
> cooling of the climate system. Since the start of the industrial era
> (about 1750), the overall effect of human activities on climate has
> been a warming influence. The human impact on climate during this era
> greatly exceeds that due to known changes in natural processes, such as
> solar changes and volcanic eruptions."
>
> --
>
> Erich
 
In article <471a5d46$0$20559$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
"Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote:

> This might interest you
>
> http://mysite.verizon.net/mhieb/WVFossils/greenhouse_data.html


They imply that the models don't take water vapor into account, when if
fact they do.

Quoting from 2.1 in the same document posted earler:
<http://ipcc-wg1.ucar.edu/wg1/Report/AR4WG1_Print_FAQs.pdf>

"Water vapour is the most abundant and important greenhouse gas in the
atmosphere. However, human activities have only a small direct
influence on the amount of atmospheric water vapour. Indirectly, humans
have the potential to affect water vapour substantially by changing
climate. For example, a warmer atmosphere contains more water vapour.
Human activities also influence water vapour through CH4 emissions,
because CH4 undergoes chemical destruction in the stratosphere,
producing a small amount of water vapour."

--

Erich
 
"Erich" <oetting@qwest.net> wrote in message
news:eek:etting-F5ECBF.14271020102007@mpls-nnrp-04.inet.qwest.net...
> In article <471a5d46$0$20559$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
> "Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> This might interest you
>>
>> http://mysite.verizon.net/mhieb/WVFossils/greenhouse_data.html

>
> They imply that the models don't take water vapor into account, when if
> fact they do.
>
> Quoting from 2.1 in the same document posted earler:
> <http://ipcc-wg1.ucar.edu/wg1/Report/AR4WG1_Print_FAQs.pdf>
>
> "Water vapour is the most abundant and important greenhouse gas in the
> atmosphere. However, human activities have only a small direct
> influence on the amount of atmospheric water vapour. Indirectly, humans
> have the potential to affect water vapour substantially by changing
> climate. For example, a warmer atmosphere contains more water vapour.
> Human activities also influence water vapour through CH4 emissions,
> because CH4 undergoes chemical destruction in the stratosphere,
> producing a small amount of water vapour."
>

what in the world has your comment got to do with the subject matter. The
IPCC is talking about solving what they think is a problem, by reducing the
amount of CO2....
 
"Jeffrey Turner" <jturner@localnet.com> wrote in message
news:13hkp519081rna2@corp.supernews.com...
> Jerry Okamura wrote:
>
>> This might interest you
>>
>> http://mysite.verizon.net/mhieb/WVFossils/greenhouse_data.html

>
> The same old nonsense meant to fool people who want to be fooled.
>

If you think that what I posted is wrong, then find some information that
disputes what this guy is saying.
 
On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 09:06:42 -0700, kT <cosmic@lifeform.org> wrote:

>Clay wrote:
>
>> 'nuff said.


I'm sure there's a lot Clay Northwood might post that I'd
disagree with, but the fact of the matter is, he didn't send an empty
message. Really Mr. Rice! This is almost as bad as you "replying" to
replies to your post and taking out what the guy says. Sad.
 
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