Al Gore Wins Nobel Prize!

"Mitchell Holman" <Noemail@comcast.com> wrote in message
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> David Hartung <dhart1ng@quixnet.net> wrote in
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>> Harry Hope wrote:
>>> From The Associated Press, 10/12/07:
>>> http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/wire/sns-ap-newsbrief,0,1411218.
>>> story
>>>
>>> Gore, U.N. Body Win Nobel Peace Prize
>>>
>>> OSLO, Norway (AP) --
>>>
>>> Former Vice President Al Gore and the U.N.'s Intergovernmental Panel
>>> on Climate Change won the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize Friday for their
>>> efforts to spread awareness of man-made climate change and lay the
>>> foundations for counteracting it.
>>>
>>> "I am deeply honored to receive the Nobel Peace Prize," Gore said.
>>>
>>> "We face a true planetary emergency. The climate crisis is not a
>>> political issue, it is a moral and spiritual challenge to all of
>>> humanity."

>>
>> This is a very strong indication that the Nobel committee is more
>> interested in politics than in fact.

>
>
>
> What "fact" do you think they overlooked?
>
>
>
>> Gore is a worthless piece of dung, and the UN is about the same.

>
>
>
> Modern Conservative: Someone who can take time
> out from bashing the UN and claiming we are not
> bound by it to state that we were compelled by UN
> resolutions to launch an unprovoked war against Iraq.
>
>
>


No, the UN just gave Bush another justification for the US to attack Iraq.
At least Bush got them to give him what he wanted, which is more than
Clinton did when we sent our military into Yugoslavia.
 
465 days till the Shrub is gone wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 10:48:08 -0400, "MoveOn.DemocrapDailyKooK's"
> <Democrapk00ks@DNC.org> wrote:
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>> "465 days till the Shrub is gone" <mr_antone@see.reply.to> wrote in message
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>>> On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 10:15:42 -0400, "MoveOn.DemocrapDailyKooK's"
>>> <Democrapk00ks@DNC.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "465 days till the Shrub is gone" <mr_antone@see.reply.to> wrote in
>>>> message
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>>>>> On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 09:25:36 -0400, "MoveOn.DemocrapDailyKooK's"
>>>>> <Democrapk00ks@DNC.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Kevin Cunningham" <smskjc@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:1192189655.300943.122600@q5g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>> On Oct 12, 7:35 am, Clay <clays0nl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Oct 12, 7:28 am, Harry posted:
>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Gore Wins Nobel Peace Prize
>>>>>>>>> OSLO, Norway ('nuff said) --
>>>>>>>>> Former Vice President Al Gore ...won the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize
>>>>>>>>> Friday...
>>>>>>>> <article snip>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Leftists support other leftists.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Stop the presses !!! <LOL>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> DUH !!!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Too ****ing funny.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -C-
>>>>>>> Can't stand it, can you? The Nobel prize, the most respected prize in
>>>>>>> the world goes to our ex-vice president,
>>>>>> =====================
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Al Gore is in great company now.
>>>>> That's correct.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Past nominees include Adolf Hitler, Josef Stalin, Benito, Mussolini and
>>>>>> Fidel Castro and Mass Murderer Tookie Williams.
>>>>> Proving nothing, craphead.
>>>>> Being nominated is not the same as winning the Peace prize.
>>>> ======================
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for admitting that NObel Nominations are worthless propoganda from
>>>> the left and winning that worhtless propoganda prize is even worse.
>>>>
>>> Didn't admit anything of the sort, craphead.
>>>
>>> It's clear you don't know the difference between a nominee and a
>>> winner. That makes you an idiot.

>> =================
>>
>> YOu just discredited anyone nominated as worthless and only the winner in
>> of value , even though they were also a nominee that was worthless.

>
> Look again.
> Pointing out that you don't know the difference between a nominee and
> a winner doesn't mean anyone nominated is worthless.
>
> I didn't discredit anyone except you, craphead.
> You're an idiot with a reading comprehension problem.


He's funny because he's so pathetic :)

> --
>
> "... by opening our borders to large numbers of highly skilled
> immigrant workers, we would both enhance the skill level of the
> overall workforce and provide a new source of competition for
> higher-earning employees, thus driving down their wages."
> - "The Age of Turbulence" by Alan Greenspan.
>
> Libertarians and Conservatives believe importing immigrants to drive down wages is good for Americans.
>
> mr_antone
 
"zzpat" <zzpatrick@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> MoveOn.DemocrapDailyKooK's wrote:
>
>> Al Gore is in great company now.
>> Past nominees include Adolf Hitler, Josef Stalin, Benito, Mussolini and
>> Fidel Castro and Mass Murderer Tookie Williams.

>
> None of the people you mention (other than Gore) won the Nobel Peace
> Prize. Good grief, can you stop hating America long enough to be proud?
>

but among the past winners were Yassar Arafat, Shemon Peres, Yitzhak Rabin,
 
On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 08:15:36 -1000, "Jerry Okamura"
<okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote:

>What has that got to do with "peace"?


The Norwegian Nobel Committee said global warming, "may induce
large-scale migration and lead to greater competition for the earth's
resources. Such changes will place particularly heavy burdens on the
world's most vulnerable countries. There may be increased danger of
violent conflicts and wars, within and between states."

You're welcome.

>
>"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
>news:0jmug3hcjcauekcud0uq1bhmd6e5jiavq5@4ax.com...
>>
>> From The Associated Press, 10/12/07:
>> http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/wire/sns-ap-newsbrief,0,1411218.story
>>
>> Gore, U.N. Body Win Nobel Peace Prize
>>
>> OSLO, Norway (AP) --
>>
>> Former Vice President Al Gore and the U.N.'s Intergovernmental Panel
>> on Climate Change won the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize Friday for their
>> efforts to spread awareness of man-made climate change and lay the
>> foundations for counteracting it.
>>
>> "I am deeply honored to receive the Nobel Peace Prize," Gore said.
>>
>> "We face a true planetary emergency. The climate crisis is not a
>> political issue, it is a moral and spiritual challenge to all of
>> humanity."
>>
>> __________________________________________
>>
>> Harry

--

"... by opening our borders to large numbers of highly skilled
immigrant workers, we would both enhance the skill level of the
overall workforce and provide a new source of competition for
higher-earning employees, thus driving down their wages."
- "The Age of Turbulence" by Alan Greenspan.

Libertarians and Conservatives believe importing immigrants to drive down wages is good for Americans.

mr_antone
 
"Mitchell Holman" <Noemail@comcast.com> wrote in message
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> David Hartung <dhart1ng@quixnet.net> wrote in
> news:CNqdndb9zKiu_JLanZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@comcast.com:
>
>> Harry Hope wrote:
>>> From The Associated Press, 10/12/07:
>>> http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/wire/sns-ap-newsbrief,0,1411218.
>>> story
>>>
>>> Gore, U.N. Body Win Nobel Peace Prize
>>>
>>> OSLO, Norway (AP) --
>>>
>>> Former Vice President Al Gore and the U.N.'s Intergovernmental Panel
>>> on Climate Change won the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize Friday for their
>>> efforts to spread awareness of man-made climate change and lay the
>>> foundations for counteracting it.
>>>
>>> "I am deeply honored to receive the Nobel Peace Prize," Gore said.
>>>
>>> "We face a true planetary emergency. The climate crisis is not a
>>> political issue, it is a moral and spiritual challenge to all of
>>> humanity."

>>
>> This is a very strong indication that the Nobel committee is more
>> interested in politics than in fact.

>
>
>
> What "fact" do you think they overlooked?


The 1992 winner, Rigoberta Menchu, was a liar. As far as I know she never
returned her prize.
http://www.boundless.org/1999/departments/isms/a0000074.html
>
>
>
>> Gore is a worthless piece of dung, and the UN is about the same.

>
>
>
> Modern Conservative: Someone who can take time
> out from bashing the UN and claiming we are not
> bound by it to state that we were compelled by UN
> resolutions to launch an unprovoked war against Iraq.


National interests will always trump the UN, not only in the US but every
other country. Conservative/Liberals/Dem/Rep all do this.
>
>
>
 
"Amanda Williams" <pms@fu.com> wrote in message
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> David Hartung <dhart1ng@quixnet.net> allegedly said in
> news:CNqdndb9zKiu_JLanZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@comcast.com:
>
>> Harry Hope wrote:
>>> From The Associated Press, 10/12/07:
>>> http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/wire/sns-ap-newsbrief,0,141121
>>> 8.story
>>>
>>> Gore, U.N. Body Win Nobel Peace Prize
>>>
>>> OSLO, Norway (AP) --
>>>
>>> Former Vice President Al Gore and the U.N.'s Intergovernmental Panel
>>> on Climate Change won the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize Friday for their
>>> efforts to spread awareness of man-made climate change and lay the
>>> foundations for counteracting it.
>>>
>>> "I am deeply honored to receive the Nobel Peace Prize," Gore said.
>>>
>>> "We face a true planetary emergency. The climate crisis is not a
>>> political issue, it is a moral and spiritual challenge to all of
>>> humanity."

>>
>> This is a very strong indication that the Nobel committee is more
>> interested in politics than in fact. Gore is a worthless piece of
>> dung, and the UN is about the same.
>>

>
> Yeah... Yeah... Yeah... Yeah ... Yadda... Yadda... Yadda...
>
> Poor davey... can't stand the contrast between little moron georgie
> dispised world-wide and the REAL President Al Gore honored world wide.


You are mistaken, Bush won both elections. To call him a moron is a
reflection on you. He won not one but two elections. If he was/is so dumb
and moronic and won two elections, what does that make your side who
couldn't stop him in either election. Gore was honored but he is still
ex-VP and loser to Bush.
>
> <snicker>
>
> --
> AW - Head "Democrats for Larry" Campaign
>
> <small but dangerous>
 
"3819 Dead" <zepp22113819@finestplanet.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 09:29:13 -0400, "MoveOn.DemocrapDailyKooK's"
> <Democrapk00ks@DNC.org> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Amanda Williams" <pms@fu.com> wrote in message
>>news:Xns99C75A09C83BAfubar@63.218.45.252...
>>> David Hartung <dhart1ng@quixnet.net> allegedly said in
>>> news:CNqdndb9zKiu_JLanZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@comcast.com:
>>>
>>>> Harry Hope wrote:
>>>>> From The Associated Press, 10/12/07:
>>>>> http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/wire/sns-ap-newsbrief,0,141121
>>>>> 8.story
>>>>>
>>>>> Gore, U.N. Body Win Nobel Peace Prize
>>>>>
>>>>> OSLO, Norway (AP) --
>>>>>
>>>>> Former Vice President Al Gore and the U.N.'s Intergovernmental Panel
>>>>> on Climate Change won the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize Friday for their
>>>>> efforts to spread awareness of man-made climate change and lay the
>>>>> foundations for counteracting it.
>>>>>
>>>>> "I am deeply honored to receive the Nobel Peace Prize," Gore said.
>>>>>
>>>>> "We face a true planetary emergency. The climate crisis is not a
>>>>> political issue, it is a moral and spiritual challenge to all of
>>>>> humanity."
>>>>
>>>> This is a very strong indication that the Nobel committee is more
>>>> interested in politics than in fact. Gore is a worthless piece of
>>>> dung, and the UN is about the same.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah... Yeah... Yeah... Yeah ... Yadda... Yadda... Yadda...
>>>
>>> Poor davey... can't stand the contrast between little moron georgie
>>> dispised world-wide and the REAL President Al Gore honored world wide.

>>===================
>>
>>
>>Al Gore is in great company now.
>>Past nominees include Adolf Hitler, Josef Stalin, Benito, Mussolini and
>>Fidel Castro and Mass Murderer Tookie Williams.

>
> ANYONE can be nominated. Hell, George W. has been nominated.
>
> WINNING it? Well, that's a bit different. Only two American
> presidents have won it, and among normal people, it's usually regarded
> as a great honor.
>
> With the exception of the year they lost their minds and gave it to
> Henry the K, of course.


Why do you think Kissinger didn't merit the peace prize? He helped put
together the Paris Peace Accords to get the US out of Vietnam ... The
American people had turned against the Vietnam war which had been the policy
of at least two previous administrations. Don't you see this as a worthy
accomplishment?
>>

> --
>
> What do you call a Republican with a conscience?
>
> An ex-Republican.
>
> http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=8827 (From Yang, AthD (h.c)
>
> "I simply can not believe this is what the Republican party has
> become. I just can't. It just makes me sick to think all those years
> of supporting this party, and this is what it has become. Even if you
> don't like the S-Chip expansion, it is hard to deny what Republicans
> are- a bunch of bitter, nasty, petty, snarling, sneering, vicious
> thugs, peering through people's windows so they can make fun of their
> misfortune.
>
> I'm registering Independent tomorrow."
>
> Putsch: leading America to asymetric warfare since 2001
>
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> Pay your taxes so the rich don't have to.
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On Oct 12, 12:59 pm, Shevek <sheve...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Jerry Kraus escribi
 
"Joe Irvin" <ji3486@sccoast.net> allegedly said in
news:feoeqk$6hd$1@news04.infoave.net:

>
> "Amanda Williams" <pms@fu.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns99C75A09C83BAfubar@63.218.45.252...
>> David Hartung <dhart1ng@quixnet.net> allegedly said in
>> news:CNqdndb9zKiu_JLanZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@comcast.com:
>>
>>> Harry Hope wrote:
>>>> From The Associated Press, 10/12/07:
>>>> http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/wire/sns-ap-newsbrief,0,1411
>>>> 21 8.story
>>>>
>>>> Gore, U.N. Body Win Nobel Peace Prize
>>>>
>>>> OSLO, Norway (AP) --
>>>>
>>>> Former Vice President Al Gore and the U.N.'s Intergovernmental
>>>> Panel on Climate Change won the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize Friday for
>>>> their efforts to spread awareness of man-made climate change and
>>>> lay the foundations for counteracting it.
>>>>
>>>> "I am deeply honored to receive the Nobel Peace Prize," Gore said.
>>>>
>>>> "We face a true planetary emergency. The climate crisis is not a
>>>> political issue, it is a moral and spiritual challenge to all of
>>>> humanity."
>>>
>>> This is a very strong indication that the Nobel committee is more
>>> interested in politics than in fact. Gore is a worthless piece of
>>> dung, and the UN is about the same.
>>>

>>
>> Yeah... Yeah... Yeah... Yeah ... Yadda... Yadda... Yadda...
>>
>> Poor davey... can't stand the contrast between little moron georgie
>> dispised world-wide and the REAL President Al Gore honored world
>> wide.

>
> You are mistaken, Bush won both elections. To call him a moron is a
> reflection on you.


The fact that he is a moron is not my fault joey.

> He won not one but two elections. If he was/is so
> dumb and moronic and won two elections,


Really? So winning an election makes you smart eh?

rotfl...

> what does that make your side
> who couldn't stop him in either election. Gore was honored but he is
> still ex-VP and loser to Bush.


No actually the COUNTRY is the loser joey and little georgie will go down
as the worst President in history ... aka a LOSER of historical
proportions.

--
AW - Head "Democrats for Larry" Campaign

<small but dangerous>
 
On Oct 12, 1:06 pm, 465 days till the Shrub is gone
<mr_ant...@see.reply.to> wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 10:55:29 -0700, Jerry Kraus
>
>
>
>
>
> <jkraus_1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >On Oct 12, 6:28 am, Harry Hope <riv...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >> From The Associated Press, 10/12/07:http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/wire/sns-ap-newsbrief,0,14112...

>
> >> Gore, U.N. Body Win Nobel Peace Prize

>
> >> OSLO, Norway (AP) --

>
> >> Former Vice President Al Gore and the U.N.'s Intergovernmental Panel
> >> on Climate Change won the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize Friday for their
> >> efforts to spread awareness of man-made climate change and lay the
> >> foundations for counteracting it.

>
> >> "I am deeply honored to receive the Nobel Peace Prize," Gore said.

>
> >> "We face a true planetary emergency. The climate crisis is not a
> >> political issue, it is a moral and spiritual challenge to all of
> >> humanity."

>
> >> __________________________________________

>
> >> Harry

>
> >The Nobel Prizes are a bad joke. The Swedes should go back to raiding
> >coastal villages. It was more socially constructive.

>
> Killing, raping and stealing is more socially constructive?
>
> And you wonder why you're called a wingnut.
>
> --
>
> "... by opening our borders to large numbers of highly skilled
> immigrant workers, we would both enhance the skill level of the
> overall workforce and provide a new source of competition for
> higher-earning employees, thus driving down their wages."
> - "The Age of Turbulence" by Alan Greenspan.
>
> Libertarians and Conservatives believe importing immigrants to drive down wages is good for Americans.
>
> mr_antone- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


Actually, I'm not, usually. My point is that confusing the world
about what is valuable and what is not in science and politics may not
be the most useful social activity. Let the proof be in the pudding,
not in highly bureaucratized and politicizied decision making. Or,
award prizes for specific developments that humanity needs, not just
some meaningless "best" of the year, like the Oscars.

As I say, the Nobel Prizes are a joke.
 
"Anal Roberts" <aroberts@bumole.edu> wrote in message
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> MoveOn.DemocrapDailyKooK's wrote:
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>>> On Oct 12, 9:25 am, "MoveOn.DemocrapDailyKooK's"
>>> <Democrapk0...@DNC.org> wrote:
>>>> "Kevin Cunningham" <sms...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>>>>
>>>> news:1192189655.300943.122600@q5g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 12, 7:35 am, Clay <clays0nl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Oct 12, 7:28 am, Harry posted:
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> Gore Wins Nobel Peace Prize
>>>>>>> OSLO, Norway ('nuff said) --
>>>>>>> Former Vice President Al Gore ...won the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize
>>>>>>> Friday...
>>>>>> <article snip>
>>>>>> Leftists support other leftists.
>>>>>> Stop the presses !!! <LOL>
>>>>>> DUH !!!
>>>>>> Too ****ing funny.
>>>>>> -C-
>>>>> Can't stand it, can you? The Nobel prize, the most respected prize in
>>>>> the world goes to our ex-vice president,
>>>> =====================
>>>>
>>>> Al Gore is in great company now.
>>>> Past nominees include Adolf Hitler, Josef Stalin, Benito, Mussolini and
>>>> Fidel Castro and Mass Murderer Tookie Williams.- Hide quoted text -
>>>>
>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>> Lots of people are nominated
>>>
>>> Few win
>>> ===============

>>
>> And even Fewer get Debunked by science.
>>
>> http://www.smh.com.au/news/environm.../2007/03/13/1173722471286.html?page=fullpage#
>>
>>
>>
>> Scientists have inconvenient news for Gore
>>
>>
>>
>> William Broad
>> March 14, 2007

>
> That's not a scientist numbskull that's an op-ed journalist. Real science
> is discussed in scientific journals.

====================

Yeah you lose again .

Core Studies Prove CO2 Is Not the Powerful Climate Driver Climate Alarmists
Make It Out to Be
Volume 6, Number 26: 25 June 2003



For the past two decades or more, we have heard much about the global
warming of the 20th century being caused by the rise in atmospheric carbon
dioxide concentration that is generally attributed to anthropogenic CO2
emissions. This story, however, has always been controversial [see
Smagorinsky et al. (1982) and Idso (1982) for early pro/con positions on the
issue]; and with the retrieval and preliminary analysis of the first long
ice core from Vostok, Antarctica -- which provided a 150,000-year history of
both surface air temperature and atmospheric CO2 concentration -- the debate
became even more intense, as the close associations of the ups and downs of
atmospheric CO2 and temperature that were evident during glacial
terminations and inceptions in that record, as well as in subsequent records
of even greater length, led many climate alarmists to claim that those
observations actually proved that anthropogenic CO2 emissions were
responsible for 20th-century global warming.

This contention was challenged by Idso (1989), who wrote -- in reference to
the very data that were used to support the claim -- that "changes in
atmospheric CO2 content never precede changes in air temperature, when going
from glacial to interglacial conditions; and when going from interglacial to
glacial conditions, the change in CO2 concentration actually lags the change
in air temperature (Genthon et al., 1987)." Hence, he concluded that
"changes in CO2 concentration cannot be claimed to be the cause of changes
in air temperature, for the appropriate sequence of events (temperature
change following CO2 change) is not only never present, it is actually
violated in [at least] half of the record (Idso, 1988)."

How has our understanding of this issue progressed in the interim? Our
website provides several updates.

Petit et al. (1999) reconstructed histories of surface air temperature and
atmospheric CO2 concentration from data obtained from a Vostok ice core that
covered the prior 420,000 years, determining that during glacial inception
"the CO2 decrease lags the temperature decrease by several thousand years"
and that "the same sequence of climate forcing operated during each
termination." Likewise, working with sections of ice core records from
around the times of the last three glacial terminations, Fischer et al.
(1999) found that "the time lag of the rise in CO2 concentrations with
respect to temperature change is on the order of 400 to 1000 years during
all three glacial-interglacial transitions."

On the basis of atmospheric CO2 data obtained from the Antarctic Taylor Dome
ice core and temperature data obtained from the Vostok ice core, Indermuhle
et al. (2000) studied the relationship between these two parameters over the
period 60,000-20,000 years BP (Before Present). One statistical test
performed on the data suggested that shifts in the air's CO2 content lagged
shifts in air temperature by approximately 900 years, while a second
statistical test yielded a mean lag-time of 1200 years. Similarly, in a
study of air temperature and CO2 data obtained from Dome Concordia,
Antarctica for the period 22,000-9,000 BP -- which time interval includes
the most recent glacial-to-interglacial transition -- Monnin et al. (2001)
found that the start of the CO2 increase lagged the start of the temperature
increase by 800 years. Then, in another study of the 420,000-year Vostok
ice-core record, Mudelsee (2001) concluded that variations in atmospheric
CO2 concentration lagged variations in air temperature by 1,300 to 5,000
years.

In a somewhat different type of study, Yokoyama et al. (2000) analyzed
sediment facies in the tectonically stable Bonaparte Gulf of Australia to
determine the timing of the initial melting phase of the last great ice age.
In commenting on the results of that study, Clark and Mix (2000) note that
the rapid rise in sea level caused by the melting of land-based ice that
began approximately 19,000 years ago preceded the post-glacial rise in
atmospheric CO2 concentration by about 3,000 years.

So what's the latest on the issue? To our knowledge, the most recent study
to broach the subject is that of Caillon et al. (2003), who measured the
isotopic composition of argon -- specifically,
 
On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 14:52:26 -0400, "Joe Irvin" <ji3486@sccoast.net>
wrote:

>
>"3819 Dead" <zepp22113819@finestplanet.com> wrote in message
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>> On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 09:29:13 -0400, "MoveOn.DemocrapDailyKooK's"
>> <Democrapk00ks@DNC.org> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Amanda Williams" <pms@fu.com> wrote in message
>>>news:Xns99C75A09C83BAfubar@63.218.45.252...
>>>> David Hartung <dhart1ng@quixnet.net> allegedly said in
>>>> news:CNqdndb9zKiu_JLanZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@comcast.com:
>>>>
>>>>> Harry Hope wrote:
>>>>>> From The Associated Press, 10/12/07:
>>>>>> http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/wire/sns-ap-newsbrief,0,141121
>>>>>> 8.story
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gore, U.N. Body Win Nobel Peace Prize
>>>>>>
>>>>>> OSLO, Norway (AP) --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Former Vice President Al Gore and the U.N.'s Intergovernmental Panel
>>>>>> on Climate Change won the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize Friday for their
>>>>>> efforts to spread awareness of man-made climate change and lay the
>>>>>> foundations for counteracting it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "I am deeply honored to receive the Nobel Peace Prize," Gore said.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "We face a true planetary emergency. The climate crisis is not a
>>>>>> political issue, it is a moral and spiritual challenge to all of
>>>>>> humanity."
>>>>>
>>>>> This is a very strong indication that the Nobel committee is more
>>>>> interested in politics than in fact. Gore is a worthless piece of
>>>>> dung, and the UN is about the same.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yeah... Yeah... Yeah... Yeah ... Yadda... Yadda... Yadda...
>>>>
>>>> Poor davey... can't stand the contrast between little moron georgie
>>>> dispised world-wide and the REAL President Al Gore honored world wide.
>>>===================
>>>
>>>
>>>Al Gore is in great company now.
>>>Past nominees include Adolf Hitler, Josef Stalin, Benito, Mussolini and
>>>Fidel Castro and Mass Murderer Tookie Williams.

>>
>> ANYONE can be nominated. Hell, George W. has been nominated.
>>
>> WINNING it? Well, that's a bit different. Only two American
>> presidents have won it, and among normal people, it's usually regarded
>> as a great honor.
>>
>> With the exception of the year they lost their minds and gave it to
>> Henry the K, of course.

>
>Why do you think Kissinger didn't merit the peace prize? He helped put
>together the Paris Peace Accords to get the US out of Vietnam ... The
>American people had turned against the Vietnam war which had been the policy
>of at least two previous administrations. Don't you see this as a worthy
>accomplishment?


Kissinger helped delay the Paris peace process until Nixon was elected
with his secret plan to end the war.
And he supported the overthrow and killing of Allende.
--

"... by opening our borders to large numbers of highly skilled
immigrant workers, we would both enhance the skill level of the
overall workforce and provide a new source of competition for
higher-earning employees, thus driving down their wages."
- "The Age of Turbulence" by Alan Greenspan.

Libertarians and Conservatives believe importing immigrants to drive down wages is good for Americans.

mr_antone
 
On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 10:55:29 -0700, Jerry Kraus
<jkraus_1999@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Oct 12, 6:28 am, Harry Hope <riv...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> From The Associated Press, 10/12/07:http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/wire/sns-ap-newsbrief,0,14112...
>>
>> Gore, U.N. Body Win Nobel Peace Prize
>>
>> OSLO, Norway (AP) --
>>
>> Former Vice President Al Gore and the U.N.'s Intergovernmental Panel
>> on Climate Change won the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize Friday for their
>> efforts to spread awareness of man-made climate change and lay the
>> foundations for counteracting it.
>>
>> "I am deeply honored to receive the Nobel Peace Prize," Gore said.
>>
>> "We face a true planetary emergency. The climate crisis is not a
>> political issue, it is a moral and spiritual challenge to all of
>> humanity."
>>
>> __________________________________________
>>
>> Harry

>
>The Nobel Prizes are a bad joke. The Swedes should go back to raiding
>coastal villages. It was more socially constructive.


Whine! Snivel! Drum your little heels on the ground and scream,
little dittohead!
 
On Oct 12, 2:24 pm, 3820 Dead <ze...@finestplanet.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 10:55:29 -0700, Jerry Kraus
>
>
>
>
>
> <jkraus_1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >On Oct 12, 6:28 am, Harry Hope <riv...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >> From The Associated Press, 10/12/07:http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/wire/sns-ap-newsbrief,0,14112...

>
> >> Gore, U.N. Body Win Nobel Peace Prize

>
> >> OSLO, Norway (AP) --

>
> >> Former Vice President Al Gore and the U.N.'s Intergovernmental Panel
> >> on Climate Change won the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize Friday for their
> >> efforts to spread awareness of man-made climate change and lay the
> >> foundations for counteracting it.

>
> >> "I am deeply honored to receive the Nobel Peace Prize," Gore said.

>
> >> "We face a true planetary emergency. The climate crisis is not a
> >> political issue, it is a moral and spiritual challenge to all of
> >> humanity."

>
> >> __________________________________________

>
> >> Harry

>
> >The Nobel Prizes are a bad joke. The Swedes should go back to raiding
> >coastal villages. It was more socially constructive.

>
> Whine! Snivel! Drum your little heels on the ground and scream,
> little dittohead!- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


Not at all. Helps to prove my point:

Arafat, Kissinger, Gore!!!! The three stooges. Of Alfred Nobel.
 
On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 11:59:09 -0700, Jerry Kraus
<jkraus_1999@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Oct 12, 1:06 pm, 465 days till the Shrub is gone
><mr_ant...@see.reply.to> wrote:
>> On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 10:55:29 -0700, Jerry Kraus
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <jkraus_1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >On Oct 12, 6:28 am, Harry Hope <riv...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> >> From The Associated Press, 10/12/07:http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/wire/sns-ap-newsbrief,0,14112...

>>
>> >> Gore, U.N. Body Win Nobel Peace Prize

>>
>> >> OSLO, Norway (AP) --

>>
>> >> Former Vice President Al Gore and the U.N.'s Intergovernmental Panel
>> >> on Climate Change won the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize Friday for their
>> >> efforts to spread awareness of man-made climate change and lay the
>> >> foundations for counteracting it.

>>
>> >> "I am deeply honored to receive the Nobel Peace Prize," Gore said.

>>
>> >> "We face a true planetary emergency. The climate crisis is not a
>> >> political issue, it is a moral and spiritual challenge to all of
>> >> humanity."

>>
>> >> __________________________________________

>>
>> >> Harry

>>
>> >The Nobel Prizes are a bad joke. The Swedes should go back to raiding
>> >coastal villages. It was more socially constructive.

>>
>> Killing, raping and stealing is more socially constructive?
>>
>> And you wonder why you're called a wingnut.
>>
>> --
>>
>> "... by opening our borders to large numbers of highly skilled
>> immigrant workers, we would both enhance the skill level of the
>> overall workforce and provide a new source of competition for
>> higher-earning employees, thus driving down their wages."
>> - "The Age of Turbulence" by Alan Greenspan.
>>
>> Libertarians and Conservatives believe importing immigrants to drive down wages is good for Americans.
>>
>> mr_antone- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -

>
>Actually, I'm not, usually. My point is that confusing the world
>about what is valuable and what is not in science and politics may not
>be the most useful social activity. Let the proof be in the pudding,
>not in highly bureaucratized and politicizied decision making. Or,
>award prizes for specific developments that humanity needs, not just
>some meaningless "best" of the year, like the Oscars.


You didn't answer the question, wingnut.

>As I say, the Nobel Prizes are a joke.


That's why most countries take them seriously.
--

"... by opening our borders to large numbers of highly skilled
immigrant workers, we would both enhance the skill level of the
overall workforce and provide a new source of competition for
higher-earning employees, thus driving down their wages."
- "The Age of Turbulence" by Alan Greenspan.

Libertarians and Conservatives believe importing immigrants to drive down wages is good for Americans.

mr_antone
 
On Oct 12, 3:02 pm, 465 days till the Shrub is gone
<mr_ant...@see.reply.to> wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 11:59:09 -0700, Jerry Kraus
>
>
>
>
>
> <jkraus_1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >On Oct 12, 1:06 pm, 465 days till the Shrub is gone
> ><mr_ant...@see.reply.to> wrote:
> >> On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 10:55:29 -0700, Jerry Kraus

>
> >> <jkraus_1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> >On Oct 12, 6:28 am, Harry Hope <riv...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >> >> From The Associated Press, 10/12/07:http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/wire/sns-ap-newsbrief,0,14112...

>
> >> >> Gore, U.N. Body Win Nobel Peace Prize

>
> >> >> OSLO, Norway (AP) --

>
> >> >> Former Vice President Al Gore and the U.N.'s Intergovernmental Panel
> >> >> on Climate Change won the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize Friday for their
> >> >> efforts to spread awareness of man-made climate change and lay the
> >> >> foundations for counteracting it.

>
> >> >> "I am deeply honored to receive the Nobel Peace Prize," Gore said.

>
> >> >> "We face a true planetary emergency. The climate crisis is not a
> >> >> political issue, it is a moral and spiritual challenge to all of
> >> >> humanity."

>
> >> >> __________________________________________

>
> >> >> Harry

>
> >> >The Nobel Prizes are a bad joke. The Swedes should go back to raiding
> >> >coastal villages. It was more socially constructive.

>
> >> Killing, raping and stealing is more socially constructive?

>
> >> And you wonder why you're called a wingnut.

>
> >> --

>
> >> "... by opening our borders to large numbers of highly skilled
> >> immigrant workers, we would both enhance the skill level of the
> >> overall workforce and provide a new source of competition for
> >> higher-earning employees, thus driving down their wages."
> >> - "The Age of Turbulence" by Alan Greenspan.

>
> >> Libertarians and Conservatives believe importing immigrants to drive down wages is good for Americans.

>
> >> mr_antone- Hide quoted text -

>
> >> - Show quoted text -

>
> >Actually, I'm not, usually. My point is that confusing the world
> >about what is valuable and what is not in science and politics may not
> >be the most useful social activity. Let the proof be in the pudding,
> >not in highly bureaucratized and politicizied decision making. Or,
> >award prizes for specific developments that humanity needs, not just
> >some meaningless "best" of the year, like the Oscars.

>
> You didn't answer the question, wingnut.
>
> >As I say, the Nobel Prizes are a joke.

>
> That's why most countries take them seriously.
> --
>
> "... by opening our borders to large numbers of highly skilled
> immigrant workers, we would both enhance the skill level of the
> overall workforce and provide a new source of competition for
> higher-earning employees, thus driving down their wages."
> - "The Age of Turbulence" by Alan Greenspan.
>
> Libertarians and Conservatives believe importing immigrants to drive down wages is good for Americans.
>
> mr_antone- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


Actually, I did. You just can't read.

Arafat, Kissinger, Gore. The three stooges. Of Alfred Nobel.
 
On Oct 12, 3:02 pm, 465 days till the Shrub is gone
<mr_ant...@see.reply.to> wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 11:59:09 -0700, Jerry Kraus
>
>
>
>
>
> <jkraus_1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >On Oct 12, 1:06 pm, 465 days till the Shrub is gone
> ><mr_ant...@see.reply.to> wrote:
> >> On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 10:55:29 -0700, Jerry Kraus

>
> >> <jkraus_1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> >On Oct 12, 6:28 am, Harry Hope <riv...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >> >> From The Associated Press, 10/12/07:http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/wire/sns-ap-newsbrief,0,14112...

>
> >> >> Gore, U.N. Body Win Nobel Peace Prize

>
> >> >> OSLO, Norway (AP) --

>
> >> >> Former Vice President Al Gore and the U.N.'s Intergovernmental Panel
> >> >> on Climate Change won the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize Friday for their
> >> >> efforts to spread awareness of man-made climate change and lay the
> >> >> foundations for counteracting it.

>
> >> >> "I am deeply honored to receive the Nobel Peace Prize," Gore said.

>
> >> >> "We face a true planetary emergency. The climate crisis is not a
> >> >> political issue, it is a moral and spiritual challenge to all of
> >> >> humanity."

>
> >> >> __________________________________________

>
> >> >> Harry

>
> >> >The Nobel Prizes are a bad joke. The Swedes should go back to raiding
> >> >coastal villages. It was more socially constructive.

>
> >> Killing, raping and stealing is more socially constructive?

>
> >> And you wonder why you're called a wingnut.

>
> >> --

>
> >> "... by opening our borders to large numbers of highly skilled
> >> immigrant workers, we would both enhance the skill level of the
> >> overall workforce and provide a new source of competition for
> >> higher-earning employees, thus driving down their wages."
> >> - "The Age of Turbulence" by Alan Greenspan.

>
> >> Libertarians and Conservatives believe importing immigrants to drive down wages is good for Americans.

>
> >> mr_antone- Hide quoted text -

>
> >> - Show quoted text -

>
> >Actually, I'm not, usually. My point is that confusing the world
> >about what is valuable and what is not in science and politics may not
> >be the most useful social activity. Let the proof be in the pudding,
> >not in highly bureaucratized and politicizied decision making. Or,
> >award prizes for specific developments that humanity needs, not just
> >some meaningless "best" of the year, like the Oscars.

>
> You didn't answer the question, wingnut.
>
> >As I say, the Nobel Prizes are a joke.

>
> That's why most countries take them seriously.
> --
>
> "... by opening our borders to large numbers of highly skilled
> immigrant workers, we would both enhance the skill level of the
> overall workforce and provide a new source of competition for
> higher-earning employees, thus driving down their wages."
> - "The Age of Turbulence" by Alan Greenspan.
>
> Libertarians and Conservatives believe importing immigrants to drive down wages is good for Americans.
>
> mr_antone- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


Just out of curiosity, how do you tell what a "country" thinks? Has
anyone even done a poll saying "do you take the Nobel Prizes
seriously?"
 
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