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>>
>>>"Pastor Knave" < SATAN_@_gmail.com> wrote in message
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>>>> On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 02:03:30 -0800 (PST), Spiritman
>>>> <Spiritman@q.com> said the following:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>"ALL ISRAEL SHALL BE SAVED"? DOES THAT MEAN ONLY JEWS, AND EVERY
>>>>>SINGLE JEW WHO LIVES IN ISRAEL WHO PRACTICE JUDAISM WILL SOMEDAY
>>>>>BECOME A CHRISTIAN?
>>>
>>>???????
>>
>> Freddy, your new nic is kill filed.
>
>
> Thank you,
>
> You can't read? After the gospel elect Christians, who are grafted into
> Israel are saved, the rest of Israel, the enemy-of-the-gospel elect are
> saved: Romans 11:25-29

No, you idiot: YOU are the one that can't read.

It's a transfer process between the "natural" tree (which is naturally in),
and the "wild" tree (which is wildly out).

The abominable branches are cast out, making room for the wild branches that
are usable, and so the two "trees" are rebalanced, leaving one fit for use
(whole Israel), and one fit for burning.

[snip the rest of the idiot's abuse of scripture]

Ike

 

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>>>> <Spiritman@q.com> said the following:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>"ALL ISRAEL SHALL BE SAVED"? DOES THAT MEAN ONLY JEWS, AND EVERY
>>>>>SINGLE JEW WHO LIVES IN ISRAEL WHO PRACTICE JUDAISM WILL SOMEDAY
>>>>>BECOME A CHRISTIAN?
>>>
>>> ???????
>>>
>>> You can't read? After the gospel elect Christians, who are grafted into
>>> Israel are saved, the rest of Israel, the enemy-of-the-gospel elect are
>>> saved: Romans 11:25-29
>>
>> You can change your name, but you're still an idiot.
>>
>> Christians can't be grafted into Israel if Israel is saved AFTER the
>> Christians, for the first Israel has to be processed BEFORE they can be
>> grafted in.
>
>

 

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[Spiritman]

On Nov 30, 10:28 pm, "H.E. Eickleberry, Jr."
>
> This will be the THIRD Israel, the children of both faiths already
> designated by God, as Paul says "there is even now a remnant >according to GRACE."
>

There is one faith, faith in Jesus Christ. There is one Israel, there
is one tree. These are those who belong to Christ are one family, Jew
or Gentile, brothers, sisters, in Christ. A remnant of Israelites did
believe in him, and were saved. Paul said "in the PRESENT TIME a
remnant according to election of grace HAS COME into being".

The remnant who believed in Christ were the election of grace, the
others who were hardened were not...

Rom 11:5 So then, also in the present time a remnant according to
election of grace has come into being.
<>
Rom 11:7 What then? What Israel seeks, this it did not obtain, but the
election obtained it, and the rest were hardened .

While many Israelites were blinded to see Jesus as their Deliver, (so
the message would be preached to the Gentiles), a remnant of
Israelites did believe in him, and as the Gentiles obtained mercy
because of the disobedience of Israel, and Israel mercy because of the
mercy obtained by the Gentiles, ALL Israel could then be saved by the
mercy of God, Jew and Gentile, any and all who did believe in him were
saved, a great mercy of God.

 

[Pastor Dave]

On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:59:16 -0800 (PST), Spiritman
<Spiritman@q.com> said the following:


>On Nov 30, 10:28 pm, "H.E. Eickleberry, Jr."
>
>> This will be the THIRD Israel, the children of both faiths already
>> designated by God, as Paul says "there is even now a remnant >according to GRACE."
>>
>
>There is one faith, faith in Jesus Christ. There is one Israel, there
>is one tree. These are those who belong to Christ are one family, Jew
>or Gentile, brothers, sisters, in Christ. A remnant of Israelites did
>believe in him, and were saved. Paul said "in the PRESENT TIME a
>remnant according to election of grace HAS COME into being".
>
>The remnant who believed in Christ were the election of grace, the
>others who were hardened were not...
>
>Rom 11:5 So then, also in the present time a remnant according to
>election of grace has come into being.
><>
>Rom 11:7 What then? What Israel seeks, this it did not obtain, but the
>election obtained it, and the rest were hardened .
>
>While many Israelites were blinded to see Jesus as their Deliver, (so
>the message would be preached to the Gentiles), a remnant of
>Israelites did believe in him, and as the Gentiles obtained mercy
>because of the disobedience of Israel, and Israel mercy because of the
>mercy obtained by the Gentiles, ALL Israel could then be saved by the
>mercy of God, Jew and Gentile, any and all who did believe in him were
>saved, a great mercy of God.

Amen!

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>>>>> On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 02:03:30 -0800 (PST), Spiritman
>>>>> <Spiritman@q.com> said the following:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>"ALL ISRAEL SHALL BE SAVED"? DOES THAT MEAN ONLY JEWS, AND EVERY
>>>>>>SINGLE JEW WHO LIVES IN ISRAEL WHO PRACTICE JUDAISM WILL SOMEDAY
>>>>>>BECOME A CHRISTIAN?
>>>>
>>>>???????
>>>
>>> Freddy, your new nic is kill filed.
>>
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> You can't read? After the gospel elect Christians, who are grafted into
>> Israel are saved, the rest of Israel, the enemy-of-the-gospel elect are
>> saved: Romans 11:25-29

>
> Ike
>


Early Church Father Tertullian (circa 160-225 AD):

"But we do confess that a kingdom is promised to us upon the earth, although
before heaven, only in another state of existence; inasmuch as it will be
after the resurrection for a thousand years in the divinely-built city of
Jerusalem, 'let down from heaven,'" Five Books Against Marcion, Book 3,
Chapter 25]

Early Church Father Justin Martyr (circa 100-165 AD):

"We have perceived, moreover, that the expression, 'The day of the Lord is
as a thousand years,' is connected with this subject. And further, there was
a certain man with us, whose name was John, one of the apostles of Christ,
who prophesied, by a revelation that was made to him, that those who
believed in our Christ would dwell a thousand years in Jerusalem; and that
thereafter the general, and, in short, the eternal resurrection and judgment
of all men would likewise take place. Just as our Lord also said, 'They
shall neither marry nor be given in marriage, but shall be equal to the
angels, the children of the God of the resurrection.'"[ THE SECOND APOLOGY
OF JUSTIN FOR THE CHRISTIANS ADDRESSED TO THE ROMAN SENATE, Chap 81]

Early Church Father Irenaeus (circa 130-202 AD):

"For in as many days as this world was made, in so many thousand years shall
it be concluded. And for this reason the Scripture says: Thus the heaven and
the earth were finished, and all their adornment. And God brought to a
conclusion upon the sixth day the works that He had made; and God rested
upon the seventh day from all His works.' This is an account of the things
formerly created, as also it is a prophecy of what is to come. For the day
of the Lord is as a thousand years; and in six days created things were
completed: it is evident, therefore, that they will come to an end at the
sixth thousand year. Irenaeus against Hersies, Book 5, Chap 28, sec 3

"But when this Antichrist shall have devastated all things in this world, he
will reign for three years and six months, and sit in the temple at
Jerusalem; and then the Lord will come from heaven in the clouds, in the
glory of the Father, sending this man and those who follow him into the lake
of fire; but bringing in for the righteous the times of the kingdom, that
is, the rest, the hallowed seventh day; and restoring to Abraham the
promised inheritance, in which kingdom the Lord declared, that 'many coming
from the east and from the west should sit down with Abraham, Isaac, and
Jacob.'Irenaeus against Hersies, Book 5, Chap 30, sec 4

"The predicted blessing, therefore, belongs unquestionably to the times of
the kingdom, when the righteous shall bear rule upon their rising from the
dead." Irenaeus against Hersies, Book 5, Chap 33, sec 3

 

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<snip>

> Ike



Lyin' Ike!




Romans 11:11-12
I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but
rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to
provoke them to jealousy. [12] Now if the fall of them be the riches of the
world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more
their fulness?



Romans 11:25-32
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery,
lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is
happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. [26] And
so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion
the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: [27] For this is
my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins. [28] As concerning
the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election,
they are beloved for the fathers' sakes. [29] For the gifts and calling of
God are without repentance. [30] For as ye in times past have not believed
God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief: [31] Even so have
these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain
mercy. [32] For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have
mercy upon all.

Matthew 5:18
For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one
tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.


Galatians 5:3
For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a
debtor to do the whole law.


Zech. 12:10
And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of
Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look
upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one
mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that
is in bitterness for his firstborn.

1 Chron. 22:6-10
Then he called for Solomon his son, and charged him to build an house
for the Lord God of Israel. [7] And David said to Solomon, My son, as for
me, it was in my mind to build an house unto the name of the Lord my God:
[8] But the word of the Lord came to me, saying, Thou hast shed blood
abundantly, and hast made great wars: thou shalt not build an house unto my
name, because thou hast shed much blood upon the earth in my sight. [9]
Behold, a son shall be born to thee, who shall be a man of rest; and I will
give him rest from all his enemies round about: for his name shall be
Solomon, and I will give peace and quietness unto Israel in his days. [10]
He shall build an house for my name; and he shall be my son, and I will be
his father; and I will establish the throne of his kingdom over Israel for
ever.


Ezekiel 44:9
Thus saith the Lord God; No stranger, uncircumcised in heart, nor
uncircumcised in flesh, shall enter into my sanctuary, of any stranger that
is among the children of Israel.


Ezekiel 44:23-24
And they shall teach my people the difference between the holy and
profane, and cause them to discern between the unclean and the clean. [24]
And in controversy they shall stand in judgment; and they shall judge it
according to my judgments: and they shall keep my laws and my statutes in
all mine assemblies; and they shall hallow my sabbaths.


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> Ike


Lyin' Ike!


Two resurrections!

Resurrection is restoration from the fall:

1 Cor. 2:14
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for
they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are
spiritually discerned.

There are two resurrections:

John 5:28-29
Marvel not at this: for the time is coming, in the which all that are in
the graves shall hear his voice, [29] And shall come forth; they that have
done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto
the resurrection of judgment.

The first resurrection: "since by man came death, by man came also the
resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall
all be made alive. But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits;
afterward they that are Christ's at his coming" (1 Cor. 15:21-23).

Christ and His reigning with him are the first resurrection:

"And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was
given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the
witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the
beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their
foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a
thousand years (but the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand
years were finished). This is the first resurrection" (Rev. 20:4-5).


The resurrection of judgment is the other resurrection at the end of the
millennium:
in which the circumcision is saved: The 144,000 firstfruits (Rev 14:3-4),
and the rest when the thousand years are finished.



See if you can get this right.

This is the first resurrection
the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished

This is the first resurrection
the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished

This is the first resurrection
the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished

This is the first resurrection
the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished



1 Cor 2:14

But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they
are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are
spiritually discerned.



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> Ike
Jesus the Christ, the one the law and all the prophets said was to come.

When Jesus claimed to be God, His ministry came to and abrupt end, and many
who flocked to hear Him were among those who were yelling "Crucify Him!"

There was a problem with Jesus' claim and scripture. In scripture God had
promised to reveal all He would do to the prophets, and, when they looked in
scripture, they found only one coming of the Lord Himself, and that was for
the day of the Lord (Zech 14), and that did not describe Jesus. They could
find no coming of the Lord, Himself, in scripture, so they didn't believe
Him. Would you have believed Him?

What they didn't realize was that the Lord had also told of the foolish
people "without understanding; which have eyes, and see not; which have
ears, and hear not" (Jer 5:21). The Lord had revealed that He would come
twice, once before the day of the Lord and again for the day of the Lord,
but seeing it, they didn't see it, and hearing it, they didn't hear it.

At the transfiguration the disciples discovered that contrary to what they
had been taught, the Prophet Elijah wouldn't be returning to resume his
ministry before the Lord returns. So, they ask Jesus "Why then say the
scribes that Elijah must first come?" (Matt 17:10). Note the Author's choice
of words. They didn't ask why Malachi, a prophet, or prophets said Elijah
must first come. The Author attributed the teaching to the scribes. How a
difference could arise between what Malachi prophesied and what the scribes
expected can be understood by looking at the Malachi verse the scribes
mis-read. The Old Testament, as well as, the New Testament was written in
the style of the times, the way we speak, one word after another without
spaces between the words, justlikethiswithoutspacesbetweenthewords. When the
scribes saw the verse, Malachi 4:5 in the OT [See Mal 3,23 in the tanach]
this is how it looked: ( @ represents aleph in the transliteration)

HNH@NKYSLXLKM@T@LYHHNBY@LPNYBV@YVMYHVHHGDVLVHNVR@.
||||

To read what was prophesied the scribes needed to divide the text in words.
When they came to the 16th through 19th letters (@LYH) above the ||||'s
they could be read as one word or as two words (@L YH), they could read it
as the one word Elijah or as the two words LORD God. The scribes read it as
one word and it is read that way in our Bibles today, but what the New
Testament reveals is that Malachi prophesied is the coming of LORD God, the
first coming of the Lord, the coming before the day of the Lord. The Lord
was prophesied to come for the day of the Lord (Zech 14), but there was no
scripture of the Lord Himself coming before the day of the Lord. So, it was
the scribes who blinded Israel, to the first coming of the Lord, for the
Lord had promised "Surely the Lord God will do nothing, but he reveals his
secret to his servants the prophets" (Amos 3:7). He had revealed it to
Malachi, but when the scribes came to the coming of the Lord @L YH they
read and taught the return of Elijah @LYH.

This blindness of Israel is something, which would continue until the
fullness of the time for the gentiles to enter the kingdom has passed: "that
blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles
be come in" (Rom. 11:25); so, how will Jesus reply to his disciples without
removing the blindness and closing the door of the kingdom to the gentiles?

"Why then say the scribes that Elijah must first come?" Jesus' answered one
thing and his disciples heard another. Jesus said "Elijah (@L YH) truly
shall first come, and restore all things. But I say unto you, That Elijah @L
YH is come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever
they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them" (Matt.
17:11-12). Jesus is the redeemer who restores all things, and who was
suffering the rejection (Matt 12:14) and abuse of the violent taking the
kingdom by force and it will continue until His death.

What his disciples heard was Elijah @LYH truly shall first come, and
restore all things. But I say unto you, That Elijah @LYH is come already,
and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed.
Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them. They knew Elijah wasn't
coming and they missed that Jesus was speaking of the one who would restore
all things so the disciples "assumed [suniemi: put together] that he spoke
to them of John the Baptist" (Matt. 17:13)
John the Baptist knew that he wasn't the one of which Jesus spoke: "And
this is the record of John, when the Jews sent priests and Levites from
Jerusalem to ask him, Who art thou? And he confessed, and denied not; but
confessed, I am not the Christ. And they asked him, What then? Art thou
Elijah? And he saith, I am not. Art thou that prophet? And he answered, No.
Then said they unto him, Who art thou? that we may give an answer to them
that sent us. What sayest thou of thyself? He said, I am the voice of one
crying in the wilderness, Make straight the way of the Lord, as said the
prophet Isaiah" (John 1:19-23).
John told the priests and Levites who he was.
John wasn't the Christ.
John wasn't Elijah.
John wasn't that prophet, the Elijah-like alternative.

Over the years of the blindness we've interpreted scriptures as though John
were Elijah, but we can see that he isn't as we review our interpretations.
For example, "the angel said unto him, Fear not, Zacharias: for thy prayer
is heard; and thy wife Elisabeth shall bear thee a son, and thou shalt call
his name John. And thou shalt have joy and gladness; and many shall rejoice
at his birth. For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall
drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy
Ghost, even from his mother's womb. And many of the children of Israel shall
he turn to the Lord their God. And he shall go before him in the spirit and
power of Elijah @L YH, to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children,
and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just; to make ready a people
prepared for the Lord" (Luke 1:13-17). In this case we've given the verse
the reading of John the spirit of Elijah, not the spirit of LORD God with
which he was filled from his mother's womb.

Here we've ignored the transtion from Jesus speaking of John who was to go
before Him to Jesus who was to come: 'Jesus began to say unto the multitudes
concerning John, What went ye out into the wilderness to see? A reed shaken
with the wind? But what went ye out for to see? A man clothed in soft
raiment? behold, they that wear soft clothing are in kings' houses. But what
went ye out for to see? A prophet? yea, I say unto you, and more than a
prophet. For this is he, of whom it is written, Behold, I send my messenger
before thy face, which shall prepare thy way before thee. Verily I say unto
you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than
John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven
is greater than he. And from the days of John the Baptist until now the
kingdom of heaven suffers violence, and the violent take it by force. For
all the prophets and the law prophesied until John. And if you will receive
it, this is @L YH , which was for to come. The one that has ears to hear,
let him hear" (Matt. 11:7-15). What the law and all the prophets until John
had prophesied would come was the Christ. What the law prophesied is one of
the subjects of the book of Hebrews, and the law prophesied the coming of
the Christ, saying nothing of John. And this one is Jesus the Christ which
was for to come.

In the Jewish Passover celebration of today a place is set for the one
prophesied to come by Malachi, and the last course of the feast is the
broken bread, which has replaced the lamb of the Passover of Moses. It is
called the afikomen. It is a Greek word, the aorist form of ikneomai, and it
means he came.


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> <Spiritman@q.com> said the following:
>
>
>>On Nov 30, 10:28 pm, "H.E. Eickleberry, Jr."
>>
>>> This will be the THIRD Israel, the children of both faiths already
>>> designated by God, as Paul says "there is even now a remnant >according
>>> to GRACE."
>>>
>>
>>There is one faith, faith in Jesus Christ. There is one Israel, there
>>is one tree. These are those who belong to Christ are one family, Jew
>>or Gentile, brothers, sisters, in Christ. A remnant of Israelites did
>>believe in him, and were saved. Paul said "in the PRESENT TIME a
>>remnant according to election of grace HAS COME into being".
>>
>>The remnant who believed in Christ were the election of grace, the
>>others who were hardened were not...
>>
>>Rom 11:5 So then, also in the present time a remnant according to
>>election of grace has come into being.
>><>
>>Rom 11:7 What then? What Israel seeks, this it did not obtain, but the
>>election obtained it, and the rest were hardened .
>>
>>While many Israelites were blinded to see Jesus as their Deliver, (so
>>the message would be preached to the Gentiles), a remnant of
>>Israelites did believe in him, and as the Gentiles obtained mercy
>>because of the disobedience of Israel, and Israel mercy because of the
>>mercy obtained by the Gentiles, ALL Israel could then be saved by the
>>mercy of God, Jew and Gentile, any and all who did believe in him were
>>saved, a great mercy of God.
>
> Amen!
>

Satan lies again. It isn't so. The ones who became Christians were the
gospel elect. The ones saved after He returns are the enemy-of-the-gospel
elect: Romans 11:25-29

For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest
ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened
to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. [26] And so all
Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the
Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: [27] For this is my
covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins. [28] As concerning
the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election,
they are beloved for the fathers' sakes. [29] For the gifts and calling of
God are without repentance.


His,



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ho echon ota akoueto Preparing the way of the Lord
Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a
little child, he shall not enter therein. (Matt 10:15)
<)))))))><

 

[Fred A Stover]

"Spiritman" <Spiritman@q.com> wrote in message
news:a8f4cfc5-4e04-48ca-9181-c1131f7e6cb5@e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 30, 10:28 pm, "H.E. Eickleberry, Jr."
>>
>> This will be the THIRD Israel, the children of both faiths already
>> designated by God, as Paul says "there is even now a remnant >according
>> to GRACE."
>>
>
> There is one faith, faith in Jesus Christ. There is one Israel, there
> is one tree. These are those who belong to Christ are one family, Jew
> or Gentile, brothers, sisters, in Christ. A remnant of Israelites did
> believe in him, and were saved. Paul said "in the PRESENT TIME a
> remnant according to election of grace HAS COME into being".

You're going to join the Knave in His etermity?

The ones saved in the church are the gospel elect, and the ones saved after
His return are the enemy of the gospel elect:

Romans 11:25-29
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery,
lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is
happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. [26] And
so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion
the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: [27] For this is
my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins. [28] As concerning
the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election,
they are beloved for the fathers' sakes. [29] For the gifts and calling of
God are without repentance.

They were broken off so we could be saved: "Have they stumbled that they
should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come
unto the Gentiles" (Rom 11:11).

And then they are saved after He returns: "Behold, O my people, I will open
your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into
the land of Israel" (Ezek 37:12): "And I will pour upon the house of David,
and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of
supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they
shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in
bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn" (Zech.
12:10).

<snip>

His plan is to save the grafted-in gentiles and the blinded Jews.


His,



--
http://tinyurl.com/2hf6ak

ho echon ota akoueto Preparing the way of the Lord
Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a
little child, he shall not enter therein. (Matt 10:15)
<)))))))><

 

[H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.]

"Fred A Stover" <fredstover7@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:Bsp4j.22470$4V6.19435@newssvr14.news.prodigy.net...
> "Pastor Knave" < SATAN_@_gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:i6e2l35a1pikh3bu8f5l6p3i03gk8iqnqb@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:59:16 -0800 (PST), Spiritman
>> <Spiritman@q.com> said the following:
>>
>>
>>>On Nov 30, 10:28 pm, "H.E. Eickleberry, Jr."
>>>
>>>> This will be the THIRD Israel, the children of both faiths already
>>>> designated by God, as Paul says "there is even now a remnant >according
>>>> to GRACE."
>>>>
>>>
>>>There is one faith, faith in Jesus Christ. There is one Israel, there
>>>is one tree. These are those who belong to Christ are one family, Jew
>>>or Gentile, brothers, sisters, in Christ. A remnant of Israelites did
>>>believe in him, and were saved. Paul said "in the PRESENT TIME a
>>>remnant according to election of grace HAS COME into being".
>>>
>>>The remnant who believed in Christ were the election of grace, the
>>>others who were hardened were not...
>>>
>>>Rom 11:5 So then, also in the present time a remnant according to
>>>election of grace has come into being.
>>><>
>>>Rom 11:7 What then? What Israel seeks, this it did not obtain, but the
>>>election obtained it, and the rest were hardened .
>>>
>>>While many Israelites were blinded to see Jesus as their Deliver, (so
>>>the message would be preached to the Gentiles), a remnant of
>>>Israelites did believe in him, and as the Gentiles obtained mercy
>>>because of the disobedience of Israel, and Israel mercy because of the
>>>mercy obtained by the Gentiles, ALL Israel could then be saved by the
>>>mercy of God, Jew and Gentile, any and all who did believe in him were
>>>saved, a great mercy of God.
>>
>> Amen!
>>
>
> Satan lies again. It isn't so. The ones who became Christians were the
> gospel elect. The ones saved after He returns are the enemy-of-the-gospel
> elect: Romans 11:25-29

Idiot:

Israel that "was" ended a long time ago. They'll be raised in the
resurrection.

Israel that "is" will end in short order. They'll be raised in the
resurrection.

Israel that "will be" has little to do with the Israel that "was" or "is,"
and anyone who will be "saved" will be joined to them, i.e. the remnant,
i.e. the 144,000, i.e. those who will be alive and remain.

> For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery,
> lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is
> happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. [26] And
> so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of
> Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: [27] For
> this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins. [28] As
> concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching
> the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes. [29] For the gifts
> and calling of God are without repentance.

All Israel will be saved--in the resurrection.

Then the sorting begins and ends.

Ike

 

[H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.]

"Pastor Dave" <ananias917_@_gmail.com> wrote in message
news:i6e2l35a1pikh3bu8f5l6p3i03gk8iqnqb@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:59:16 -0800 (PST), Spiritman
> <Spiritman@q.com> said the following:
>
>
>>On Nov 30, 10:28 pm, "H.E. Eickleberry, Jr."
>>
>>> This will be the THIRD Israel, the children of both faiths already
>>> designated by God, as Paul says "there is even now a remnant >according
>>> to GRACE."
>>>
>>
>>There is one faith, faith in Jesus Christ. There is one Israel, there
>>is one tree. These are those who belong to Christ are one family, Jew
>>or Gentile, brothers, sisters, in Christ. A remnant of Israelites did
>>believe in him, and were saved. Paul said "in the PRESENT TIME a
>>remnant according to election of grace HAS COME into being".
>>
>>The remnant who believed in Christ were the election of grace, the
>>others who were hardened were not...
>>
>>Rom 11:5 So then, also in the present time a remnant according to
>>election of grace has come into being.
>><>
>>Rom 11:7 What then? What Israel seeks, this it did not obtain, but the
>>election obtained it, and the rest were hardened .
>>
>>While many Israelites were blinded to see Jesus as their Deliver, (so
>>the message would be preached to the Gentiles), a remnant of
>>Israelites did believe in him, and as the Gentiles obtained mercy
>>because of the disobedience of Israel, and Israel mercy because of the
>>mercy obtained by the Gentiles, ALL Israel could then be saved by the
>>mercy of God, Jew and Gentile, any and all who did believe in him were
>>saved, a great mercy of God.
>
> Amen!

....said the blind to the blind.

Ike

 

[H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.]

"Fred A Stover" <fredstover7@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:Bsp4j.22471$4V6.20901@newssvr14.news.prodigy.net...
> "Spiritman" <Spiritman@q.com> wrote in message
> news:a8f4cfc5-4e04-48ca-9181-c1131f7e6cb5@e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>> On Nov 30, 10:28 pm, "H.E. Eickleberry, Jr."
>>>
>>> This will be the THIRD Israel, the children of both faiths already
>>> designated by God, as Paul says "there is even now a remnant >according
>>> to GRACE."
>>>
>>
>> There is one faith, faith in Jesus Christ. There is one Israel, there
>> is one tree. These are those who belong to Christ are one family, Jew
>> or Gentile, brothers, sisters, in Christ. A remnant of Israelites did
>> believe in him, and were saved. Paul said "in the PRESENT TIME a
>> remnant according to election of grace HAS COME into being".
>
> You're going to join the Knave in His etermity?
>
> The ones saved in the church are the gospel elect, and the ones saved
> after His return are the enemy of the gospel elect:

What a moron: The ones who "will be" saved have little to do with the ones
who "were" and "are" saved, except they come from those who "were" and "are"
saved.

Ike