"ALL ISRAEL SHALL BE SAVED"? DOES THAT MEAN ONLY JEWS, AND EVERYSINGLE JEW WHO LIVES IN ISRAEL WHO P

[Fred A Stover]

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<snip>
>
> Ike



Lyin' Ike!


Two resurrections!

Resurrection is restoration from the fall:

1 Cor. 2:14
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for
they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are
spiritually discerned.

There are two resurrections:

John 5:28-29
Marvel not at this: for the time is coming, in the which all that are in
the graves shall hear his voice, [29] And shall come forth; they that have
done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto
the resurrection of judgment.

The first resurrection: "since by man came death, by man came also the
resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall
all be made alive. But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits;
afterward they that are Christ's at his coming" (1 Cor. 15:21-23).

Christ and His reigning with him are the first resurrection:

"And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was
given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the
witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the
beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their
foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a
thousand years (but the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand
years were finished). This is the first resurrection" (Rev. 20:4-5).


The resurrection of judgment is the other resurrection at the end of the
millennium:
in which the circumcision is saved: The 144,000 firstfruits (Rev 14:3-4),
and the rest when the thousand years are finished.



See if you can get this right.

This is the first resurrection
the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished

This is the first resurrection
the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished

This is the first resurrection
the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished

This is the first resurrection
the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished



1 Cor 2:14

But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they
are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are
spiritually discerned.



His,

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Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a
little child, he shall not enter therein. (Matt 10:15)
<)))))))><

 

[Fred A Stover]

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>>> On Nov 30, 10:28 pm, "H.E. Eickleberry, Jr."
>>>>
>>>> This will be the THIRD Israel, the children of both faiths already
>>>> designated by God, as Paul says "there is even now a remnant >according
>>>> to GRACE."
>>>>
>>>
>>> There is one faith, faith in Jesus Christ. There is one Israel, there
>>> is one tree. These are those who belong to Christ are one family, Jew
>>> or Gentile, brothers, sisters, in Christ. A remnant of Israelites did
>>> believe in him, and were saved. Paul said "in the PRESENT TIME a
>>> remnant according to election of grace HAS COME into being".
>>
>> You're going to join the Knave in His etermity?
>>
>> The ones saved in the church are the gospel elect, and the ones saved
>> after His return are the enemy of the gospel elect:
>
> What a moron: The ones who "will be" saved have little to do with the ones
> who "were" and "are" saved, except they come from those who "were" and
> "are" saved.
>
> Ike

That is the point, Dumasso.

Your claim that He has to break off the saved Christians to save the Jews
when He retuens is utter nonsense, and now you agree?



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Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a
little child, he shall not enter therein. (Matt 10:15)
<)))))))><

Early Church Father Tertullian (circa 160-225 AD):

"But we do confess that a kingdom is promised to us upon the earth, although
before heaven, only in another state of existence; inasmuch as it will be
after the resurrection for a thousand years in the divinely-built city of
Jerusalem, 'let down from heaven,'" Five Books Against Marcion, Book 3,
Chapter 25]

Early Church Father Justin Martyr (circa 100-165 AD):

"We have perceived, moreover, that the expression, 'The day of the Lord is
as a thousand years,' is connected with this subject. And further, there was
a certain man with us, whose name was John, one of the apostles of Christ,
who prophesied, by a revelation that was made to him, that those who
believed in our Christ would dwell a thousand years in Jerusalem; and that
thereafter the general, and, in short, the eternal resurrection and judgment
of all men would likewise take place. Just as our Lord also said, 'They
shall neither marry nor be given in marriage, but shall be equal to the
angels, the children of the God of the resurrection.'"[ THE SECOND APOLOGY
OF JUSTIN FOR THE CHRISTIANS ADDRESSED TO THE ROMAN SENATE, Chap 81]

Early Church Father Irenaeus (circa 130-202 AD):

"For in as many days as this world was made, in so many thousand years shall
it be concluded. And for this reason the Scripture says: Thus the heaven and
the earth were finished, and all their adornment. And God brought to a
conclusion upon the sixth day the works that He had made; and God rested
upon the seventh day from all His works.' This is an account of the things
formerly created, as also it is a prophecy of what is to come. For the day
of the Lord is as a thousand years; and in six days created things were
completed: it is evident, therefore, that they will come to an end at the
sixth thousand year. Irenaeus against Hersies, Book 5, Chap 28, sec 3

"But when this Antichrist shall have devastated all things in this world, he
will reign for three years and six months, and sit in the temple at
Jerusalem; and then the Lord will come from heaven in the clouds, in the
glory of the Father, sending this man and those who follow him into the lake
of fire; but bringing in for the righteous the times of the kingdom, that
is, the rest, the hallowed seventh day; and restoring to Abraham the
promised inheritance, in which kingdom the Lord declared, that 'many coming
from the east and from the west should sit down with Abraham, Isaac, and
Jacob.'Irenaeus against Hersies, Book 5, Chap 30, sec 4

"The predicted blessing, therefore, belongs unquestionably to the times of
the kingdom, when the righteous shall bear rule upon their rising from the
dead." Irenaeus against Hersies, Book 5, Chap 33, sec 3

 

[H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.]

"Fred A Stover" <fredstover7@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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>>>> On Nov 30, 10:28 pm, "H.E. Eickleberry, Jr."
>>>>>
>>>>> This will be the THIRD Israel, the children of both faiths already
>>>>> designated by God, as Paul says "there is even now a remnant
>>>>> >according to GRACE."
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There is one faith, faith in Jesus Christ. There is one Israel, there
>>>> is one tree. These are those who belong to Christ are one family, Jew
>>>> or Gentile, brothers, sisters, in Christ. A remnant of Israelites did
>>>> believe in him, and were saved. Paul said "in the PRESENT TIME a
>>>> remnant according to election of grace HAS COME into being".
>>>
>>> You're going to join the Knave in His etermity?
>>>
>>> The ones saved in the church are the gospel elect, and the ones saved
>>> after His return are the enemy of the gospel elect:
>>
>> What a moron: The ones who "will be" saved have little to do with the
>> ones who "were" and "are" saved, except they come from those who "were"
>> and "are" saved.
>>
>> Ike
>
> That is the point, Dumasso.

YOU have no point, moron.

> Your claim that He has to break off the saved Christians to save the Jews
> when He retuens is utter nonsense, and now you agree?

Idiot.

What God does with Israel past and present has nothing to do with Israel
future, except Israel future is derived from Israel past and present as God
puts it all together in the End of the Age, starting with the seed, i.e. the
144,000.

God will process Israel past and present in the FIRST resurrection of the
End of the Age, right where Daniel stated it as it applies to Israel, and
right where John stated it as it applies to Christians.

And then the mix-and-match will begin between the two "trees," i.e. the
"wild" and the "natural" olive trees.

Ike

 

[Fred A Stover]

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>> news:Oor4j.3211$6k1.1499@trndny02...
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>>>>> On Nov 30, 10:28 pm, "H.E. Eickleberry, Jr."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This will be the THIRD Israel, the children of both faiths already
>>>>>> designated by God, as Paul says "there is even now a remnant
>>>>>> >according to GRACE."
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> There is one faith, faith in Jesus Christ. There is one Israel, there
>>>>> is one tree. These are those who belong to Christ are one family, Jew
>>>>> or Gentile, brothers, sisters, in Christ. A remnant of Israelites did
>>>>> believe in him, and were saved. Paul said "in the PRESENT TIME a
>>>>> remnant according to election of grace HAS COME into being".
>>>>
>>>> You're going to join the Knave in His etermity?
>>>>
>>>> The ones saved in the church are the gospel elect, and the ones saved
>>>> after His return are the enemy of the gospel elect:
>>>
>>> What a moron: The ones who "will be" saved have little to do with the
>>> ones who "were" and "are" saved, except they come from those who "were"
>>> and "are" saved.
>>>
>>> Ike
>>
>> That is the point, Dumasso.
>
> YOU have no point, moron.
>
>> Your claim that He has to break off the saved Christians to save the Jews
>> when He retuens is utter nonsense, and now you agree?
>
> Idiot.
>
> What God does with Israel past and present has nothing to do with Israel
> future, except Israel future is derived from Israel past and present as
> God puts it all together in the End of the Age, starting with the seed,
> i.e. the 144,000.

Ike, the double tic, heretic and lunatic.


SNIP


> Ike
>

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Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a
little child, he shall not enter therein. (Matt 10:15)
<)))))))><

The Rapture: What is it? When is it?


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Early Church Father Tertullian (circa 160-225 AD):

"But we do confess that a kingdom is promised to us upon the earth, although
before heaven, only in another state of existence; inasmuch as it will be
after the resurrection for a thousand years in the divinely-built city of
Jerusalem, 'let down from heaven,'"[Five Books Against Marcion, Book 3,
Chapter 25]

Early Church Father Justin Martyr (circa 100-165 AD):

"We have perceived, moreover, that the expression, 'The day of the Lord is
as a thousand years,' is connected with this subject. And further, there was
a certain man with us, whose name was John, one of the apostles of Christ,
who prophesied, by a revelation that was made to him, that those who
believed in our Christ would dwell a thousand years in Jerusalem; and that
thereafter the general, and, in short, the eternal resurrection and judgment
of all men would likewise take place. Just as our Lord also said, 'They
shall neither marry nor be given in marriage, but shall be equal to the
angels, the children of the God of the resurrection.'"[ THE SECOND APOLOGY
OF JUSTIN FOR THE CHRISTIANS ADDRESSED TO THE ROMAN SENATE, Chap 81]

Early Church Father Irenaeus (circa 130-202 AD):

"For in as many days as this world was made, in so many thousand years shall
it be concluded. And for this reason the Scripture says: Thus the heaven and
the earth were finished, and all their adornment. And God brought to a
conclusion upon the sixth day the works that He had made; and God rested
upon the seventh day from all His works.' This is an account of the things
formerly created, as also it is a prophecy of what is to come. For the day
of the Lord is as a thousand years; and in six days created things were
completed: it is evident, therefore, that they will come to an end at the
sixth thousand year. Irenaeus against Hersies, Book 5, Chap 28, sec 3

"But when this Antichrist shall have devastated all things in this world, he
will reign for three years and six months, and sit in the temple at
Jerusalem; and then the Lord will come from heaven in the clouds, in the
glory of the Father, sending this man and those who follow him into the lake
of fire; but bringing in for the righteous the times of the kingdom, that
is, the rest, the hallowed seventh day; and restoring to Abraham the
promised inheritance, in which kingdom the Lord declared, that 'many coming
from the east and from the west should sit down with Abraham, Isaac, and
Jacob.'Irenaeus against Hersies, Book 5, Chap 30, sec 4

"The predicted blessing, therefore, belongs unquestionably to the times of
the kingdom, when the righteous shall bear rule upon their rising from the
dead." Irenaeus against Hersies, Book 5, Chap 33, sec 3
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

In scripture the rapture is described in 1Thess 4:17 Then we which are alive
and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the
Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. It is our being
caught up to meet the Lord. As He promised I go to prepare a place for you
and I will come again, and receive you unto myself (John 14:2-3).

The word rapture comes from the Latin Vulgate version of the Bible deinde
nos qui vivimus qui relinquimur simul rapiemur cum illis in nubibus obviam
Domino in aera et sic semper cum Domino erimus. The we...shall be caught up
in English is rapiemur in Latin. Rapiemur is the future passive of the Latin
verb for to seize away [rapio, -ere, rapui, raptum], and the English word
rapture comes from the future participle of rapio [rapturus, -a, -um], just
as the English word capture comes from the Latin word capio.

Our Lord was referring to the rapture in Matt 24:30-31 when He said, And
then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all
the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in
the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he shall send his
angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his
elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. However, the
rapture is only part of this thorough gathering of all His elect. In
addition to the Christians who will be gathered into His rest (Heb 4:9), and
go to the place prepared (John 14:2-3), the heavenly city (Heb 11:16). The
enemy-of-the-gospel elect are also gathered: As concerning the gospel, they
are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved
for the fathers' sakes (Rom 11:28). They enter His wrath instead of His
rest: Unto whom I sware in my wrath that they should not enter into my rest
(Ps 95:11). As we go to the place prepared for us, they are returned to
Israel: Ezek 37:12 Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause
you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel,
where they are saved after He has arrived And I will pour upon the house of
David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of
supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they
shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in
bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn (Zech
12:10) and For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their
sins (Rom 11:27). The gathering of his elect from the four winds, from one
end of heaven to the other is all of His elect.



In Matt 24:37 the Lord says, But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the
coming of the Son of man be, and in Gen 7:16-17 it is written And they that
went in, went in male and female of all flesh, as God had commanded him: and
the LORD shut him in. And the flood was forty days upon the earth; and the
waters increased, and bare up the ark, and it was lift up above the earth.
The door was shut and the flood was on the earth. The door to His rest is
shut when the last gentile enters-in: For I would not, brethren, that ye
should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own
conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of
the Gentiles be come in" (Rom 11:25)], as in the days of Noah, His wrath
will rain down upon the earth. We are also told that the rapture follows the
revealing of the man on sin: Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of
our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, that ye be
not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor
by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. Let no man
deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a
falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is
worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself
that he is God (2 Thess 2:1-4). These verses not only tell us that His
coming and our being gathered to Him will follow the revealing of the
antichrist, but also tell us how he will be revealed. He will sit in the
temple shewing himself to be God by sitting in God's place: the mercy seat
between the cherubim on the ark of the covenant.



The time of the rapture is at the time when the two witnesses ascend into
heaven in Rev 11:12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto
them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their
enemies beheld them. The two witnesses are part of all His elect which are
gathered from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other (Matt
24:31). They are changed, putting on immortality and ascending into heaven,
at the same time, the same twinkling of an eye, that we all are changed at
the last trump in Rev 11 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all
sleep, but we shall all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye,
at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised
incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible must put on
incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality

(1Cor 15:51-53). The church enters His rest and the rest of mankind enters
His wrath.

The rest into which the church enters but His-enemy-of-the-gospel elect do
not enter is His day of rest Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in
David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear
his voice, harden not your hearts (Heb 4:7). It is the same day as the day
of the Lord But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in
the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements
shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein
shall be burned up (2Pet 3:10). It begins with His coming like a thief in
the night and ends at the end of His 1000 year reign when there is a new
heaven and a new earth And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first
heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea" (Rev
21:1) and His bride, the church, descends in the place He prepared for her
And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of
heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband (Rev 21:2).

It is written in 2 Pet 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing,
that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as
one day, and the day of His rest, the day of the Lord, is a 1000 year day,
which is the third day of the prophecy in Hosea 6:2 to Jews who will live in
His millennial reign After two days will he revive us: in the third day he
will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight.

What is revealed by the 1000 year days in scripture is a week of 1000 year
days with the last day of the week being the day of the Lord, the day of His
rest. The three days of Hosea 6:2, the three at the end of the week, are
what scripture calls the last days, and the first day is the day in which
Adam ate of the forbidden fruit and died at the age of 930 But of the tree
of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day
that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die (Gen 2:17).

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 

[H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.]

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>>>>>> On Nov 30, 10:28 pm, "H.E. Eickleberry, Jr."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This will be the THIRD Israel, the children of both faiths already
>>>>>>> designated by God, as Paul says "there is even now a remnant
>>>>>>> >according to GRACE."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is one faith, faith in Jesus Christ. There is one Israel, there
>>>>>> is one tree. These are those who belong to Christ are one family, Jew
>>>>>> or Gentile, brothers, sisters, in Christ. A remnant of Israelites did
>>>>>> believe in him, and were saved. Paul said "in the PRESENT TIME a
>>>>>> remnant according to election of grace HAS COME into being".
>>>>>
>>>>> You're going to join the Knave in His etermity?
>>>>>
>>>>> The ones saved in the church are the gospel elect, and the ones saved
>>>>> after His return are the enemy of the gospel elect:
>>>>
>>>> What a moron: The ones who "will be" saved have little to do with the
>>>> ones who "were" and "are" saved, except they come from those who "were"
>>>> and "are" saved.
>>>>
>>>> Ike
>>>
>>> That is the point, Dumasso.
>>
>> YOU have no point, moron.
>>
>>> Your claim that He has to break off the saved Christians to save the
>>> Jews when He retuens is utter nonsense, and now you agree?
>>
>> Idiot.
>>
>> What God does with Israel past and present has nothing to do with Israel
>> future, except Israel future is derived from Israel past and present as
>> God puts it all together in the End of the Age, starting with the seed,
>> i.e. the 144,000.
>
> Ike, the double tic, heretic and lunatic.

You wish.

Scripture says otherwise: It has been predicting the coming of the Holy seed
of Israel coming for a LONG time.

Ps 22:28-31
For the kingdom is the LORD

 

[Fred A Stover]

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>>>>>>> On Nov 30, 10:28 pm, "H.E. Eickleberry, Jr."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This will be the THIRD Israel, the children of both faiths already
>>>>>>>> designated by God, as Paul says "there is even now a remnant
>>>>>>>> >according to GRACE."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is one faith, faith in Jesus Christ. There is one Israel,
>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>> is one tree. These are those who belong to Christ are one family,
>>>>>>> Jew
>>>>>>> or Gentile, brothers, sisters, in Christ. A remnant of Israelites
>>>>>>> did
>>>>>>> believe in him, and were saved. Paul said "in the PRESENT TIME a
>>>>>>> remnant according to election of grace HAS COME into being".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You're going to join the Knave in His etermity?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The ones saved in the church are the gospel elect, and the ones saved
>>>>>> after His return are the enemy of the gospel elect:
>>>>>
>>>>> What a moron: The ones who "will be" saved have little to do with the
>>>>> ones who "were" and "are" saved, except they come from those who
>>>>> "were" and "are" saved.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ike
>>>>
>>>> That is the point, Dumasso.
>>>
>>> YOU have no point, moron.
>>>
>>>> Your claim that He has to break off the saved Christians to save the
>>>> Jews when He retuens is utter nonsense, and now you agree?
>>>
>>> Idiot.
>>>
>>> What God does with Israel past and present has nothing to do with Israel
>>> future, except Israel future is derived from Israel past and present as
>>> God puts it all together in the End of the Age, starting with the seed,
>>> i.e. the 144,000.
>>
>> Ike, the double tic, heretic and lunatic.
>
> You wish.
>
> Scripture says otherwise: It has been predicting the coming of the Holy
> seed of Israel coming for a LONG time.
>
> Ps 22:28-31
> For the kingdom is the LORD

 

[H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.]

"Fred A Stover" <fredstover7@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> "H.E. Eickleberry, Jr." <xeickleberrybooks@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>> "Fred A Stover" <fredstover7@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>> news:vLQ4j.5578$4q5.3716@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com...
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>>>> "Fred A Stover" <fredstover7@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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>>>>> "H.E. Eickleberry, Jr." <xeickleberrybooks@verizon.net> wrote in
>>>>> message news:Oor4j.3211$6k1.1499@trndny02...
>>>>>> "Fred A Stover" <fredstover7@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:Bsp4j.22471$4V6.20901@newssvr14.news.prodigy.net...
>>>>>>> "Spiritman" <Spiritman@q.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:a8f4cfc5-4e04-48ca-9181-c1131f7e6cb5@e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>> On Nov 30, 10:28 pm, "H.E. Eickleberry, Jr."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This will be the THIRD Israel, the children of both faiths already
>>>>>>>>> designated by God, as Paul says "there is even now a remnant
>>>>>>>>> >according to GRACE."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There is one faith, faith in Jesus Christ. There is one Israel,
>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>> is one tree. These are those who belong to Christ are one family,
>>>>>>>> Jew
>>>>>>>> or Gentile, brothers, sisters, in Christ. A remnant of Israelites
>>>>>>>> did
>>>>>>>> believe in him, and were saved. Paul said "in the PRESENT TIME a
>>>>>>>> remnant according to election of grace HAS COME into being".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You're going to join the Knave in His etermity?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The ones saved in the church are the gospel elect, and the ones
>>>>>>> saved after His return are the enemy of the gospel elect:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What a moron: The ones who "will be" saved have little to do with the
>>>>>> ones who "were" and "are" saved, except they come from those who
>>>>>> "were" and "are" saved.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ike
>>>>>
>>>>> That is the point, Dumasso.
>>>>
>>>> YOU have no point, moron.
>>>>
>>>>> Your claim that He has to break off the saved Christians to save the
>>>>> Jews when He retuens is utter nonsense, and now you agree?
>>>>
>>>> Idiot.
>>>>
>>>> What God does with Israel past and present has nothing to do with
>>>> Israel future, except Israel future is derived from Israel past and
>>>> present as God puts it all together in the End of the Age, starting
>>>> with the seed, i.e. the 144,000.
>>>
>>> Ike, the double tic, heretic and lunatic.
>>
>> You wish.
>>
>> Scripture says otherwise: It has been predicting the coming of the Holy
>> seed of Israel coming for a LONG time.
>>
>> Ps 22:28-31
>> For the kingdom is the LORD

 

[Fred A Stover]

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>>>> "H.E. Eickleberry, Jr." <xeickleberrybooks@verizon.net> wrote in
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>>>>> "Fred A Stover" <fredstover7@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:_Gs4j.27293$JD.18806@newssvr21.news.prodigy.net...
>>>>>> "H.E. Eickleberry, Jr." <xeickleberrybooks@verizon.net> wrote in
>>>>>> message news:Oor4j.3211$6k1.1499@trndny02...
>>>>>>> "Fred A Stover" <fredstover7@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:Bsp4j.22471$4V6.20901@newssvr14.news.prodigy.net...
>>>>>>>> "Spiritman" <Spiritman@q.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:a8f4cfc5-4e04-48ca-9181-c1131f7e6cb5@e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>>> On Nov 30, 10:28 pm, "H.E. Eickleberry, Jr."
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This will be the THIRD Israel, the children of both faiths
>>>>>>>>>> already
>>>>>>>>>> designated by God, as Paul says "there is even now a remnant
>>>>>>>>>> >according to GRACE."
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There is one faith, faith in Jesus Christ. There is one Israel,
>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>> is one tree. These are those who belong to Christ are one family,
>>>>>>>>> Jew
>>>>>>>>> or Gentile, brothers, sisters, in Christ. A remnant of Israelites
>>>>>>>>> did
>>>>>>>>> believe in him, and were saved. Paul said "in the PRESENT TIME a
>>>>>>>>> remnant according to election of grace HAS COME into being".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You're going to join the Knave in His etermity?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The ones saved in the church are the gospel elect, and the ones
>>>>>>>> saved after His return are the enemy of the gospel elect:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What a moron: The ones who "will be" saved have little to do with
>>>>>>> the ones who "were" and "are" saved, except they come from those who
>>>>>>> "were" and "are" saved.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ike
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That is the point, Dumasso.
>>>>>
>>>>> YOU have no point, moron.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Your claim that He has to break off the saved Christians to save the
>>>>>> Jews when He retuens is utter nonsense, and now you agree?
>>>>>
>>>>> Idiot.
>>>>>
>>>>> What God does with Israel past and present has nothing to do with
>>>>> Israel future, except Israel future is derived from Israel past and
>>>>> present as God puts it all together in the End of the Age, starting
>>>>> with the seed, i.e. the 144,000.
>>>>
>>>> Ike, the double tic, heretic and lunatic.
>>>
>>> You wish.
>>>
>>> Scripture says otherwise: It has been predicting the coming of the Holy
>>> seed of Israel coming for a LONG time.
>>>
>>> Ps 22:28-31
>>> For the kingdom is the LORD

 

[H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.]

"Fred A Stover" <fredstover7@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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>
> "H.E. Eickleberry, Jr." <xeickleberrybooks@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>> "Fred A Stover" <fredstover7@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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>>>> "Fred A Stover" <fredstover7@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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>>>>> "H.E. Eickleberry, Jr." <xeickleberrybooks@verizon.net> wrote in
>>>>> message news:uzt4j.3215$6k1.613@trndny02...
>>>>>> "Fred A Stover" <fredstover7@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:_Gs4j.27293$JD.18806@newssvr21.news.prodigy.net...
>>>>>>> "H.E. Eickleberry, Jr." <xeickleberrybooks@verizon.net> wrote in
>>>>>>> message news:Oor4j.3211$6k1.1499@trndny02...
>>>>>>>> "Fred A Stover" <fredstover7@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:Bsp4j.22471$4V6.20901@newssvr14.news.prodigy.net...
>>>>>>>>> "Spiritman" <Spiritman@q.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:a8f4cfc5-4e04-48ca-9181-c1131f7e6cb5@e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 30, 10:28 pm, "H.E. Eickleberry, Jr."
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This will be the THIRD Israel, the children of both faiths
>>>>>>>>>>> already
>>>>>>>>>>> designated by God, as Paul says "there is even now a remnant
>>>>>>>>>>> >according to GRACE."
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There is one faith, faith in Jesus Christ. There is one Israel,
>>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>> is one tree. These are those who belong to Christ are one family,
>>>>>>>>>> Jew
>>>>>>>>>> or Gentile, brothers, sisters, in Christ. A remnant of Israelites
>>>>>>>>>> did
>>>>>>>>>> believe in him, and were saved. Paul said "in the PRESENT TIME a
>>>>>>>>>> remnant according to election of grace HAS COME into being".
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You're going to join the Knave in His etermity?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The ones saved in the church are the gospel elect, and the ones
>>>>>>>>> saved after His return are the enemy of the gospel elect:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What a moron: The ones who "will be" saved have little to do with
>>>>>>>> the ones who "were" and "are" saved, except they come from those
>>>>>>>> who "were" and "are" saved.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ike
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That is the point, Dumasso.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> YOU have no point, moron.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Your claim that He has to break off the saved Christians to save the
>>>>>>> Jews when He retuens is utter nonsense, and now you agree?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Idiot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What God does with Israel past and present has nothing to do with
>>>>>> Israel future, except Israel future is derived from Israel past and
>>>>>> present as God puts it all together in the End of the Age, starting
>>>>>> with the seed, i.e. the 144,000.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ike, the double tic, heretic and lunatic.
>>>>
>>>> You wish.
>>>>
>>>> Scripture says otherwise: It has been predicting the coming of the Holy
>>>> seed of Israel coming for a LONG time.
>>>>
>>>> Ps 22:28-31
>>>> For the kingdom is the LORD

 

[Fred A Stover]

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>> "H.E. Eickleberry, Jr." <xeickleberrybooks@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>>>>> "Fred A Stover" <fredstover7@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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>>>>>>> "Fred A Stover" <fredstover7@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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>>>>>>>> "H.E. Eickleberry, Jr." <xeickleberrybooks@verizon.net> wrote in
>>>>>>>> message news:Oor4j.3211$6k1.1499@trndny02...
>>>>>>>>> "Fred A Stover" <fredstover7@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:Bsp4j.22471$4V6.20901@newssvr14.news.prodigy.net...
>>>>>>>>>> "Spiritman" <Spiritman@q.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:a8f4cfc5-4e04-48ca-9181-c1131f7e6cb5@e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 30, 10:28 pm, "H.E. Eickleberry, Jr."
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> This will be the THIRD Israel, the children of both faiths
>>>>>>>>>>>> already
>>>>>>>>>>>> designated by God, as Paul says "there is even now a remnant
>>>>>>>>>>>> >according to GRACE."
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> There is one faith, faith in Jesus Christ. There is one Israel,
>>>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>>> is one tree. These are those who belong to Christ are one
>>>>>>>>>>> family, Jew
>>>>>>>>>>> or Gentile, brothers, sisters, in Christ. A remnant of
>>>>>>>>>>> Israelites did
>>>>>>>>>>> believe in him, and were saved. Paul said "in the PRESENT TIME a
>>>>>>>>>>> remnant according to election of grace HAS COME into being".
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You're going to join the Knave in His etermity?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The ones saved in the church are the gospel elect, and the ones
>>>>>>>>>> saved after His return are the enemy of the gospel elect:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What a moron: The ones who "will be" saved have little to do with
>>>>>>>>> the ones who "were" and "are" saved, except they come from those
>>>>>>>>> who "were" and "are" saved.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ike
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That is the point, Dumasso.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> YOU have no point, moron.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Your claim that He has to break off the saved Christians to save
>>>>>>>> the Jews when He retuens is utter nonsense, and now you agree?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Idiot.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What God does with Israel past and present has nothing to do with
>>>>>>> Israel future, except Israel future is derived from Israel past and
>>>>>>> present as God puts it all together in the End of the Age, starting
>>>>>>> with the seed, i.e. the 144,000.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ike, the double tic, heretic and lunatic.
>>>>>
>>>>> You wish.
>>>>>
>>>>> Scripture says otherwise: It has been predicting the coming of the
>>>>> Holy seed of Israel coming for a LONG time.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ps 22:28-31
>>>>> For the kingdom is the LORD

 

[H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.]

"Fred A Stover" <fredstover7@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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[snip]

>> You don't HAVE a point, idiot.
>>
> My point is His gospel.

Idiot: If you were preaching Jesus' Gospel, you WOULDN'T be preaching your
idiotic temple of stone and mortar.

[snip]

Ike

 

[Fred A Stover]

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>
> [snip]
>
> Ike

Lyin' Ike!




Romans 11:11-12
I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but
rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to
provoke them to jealousy. [12] Now if the fall of them be the riches of the
world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more
their fulness?



Romans 11:25-32
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery,
lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is
happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. [26] And
so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion
the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: [27] For this is
my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins. [28] As concerning
the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election,
they are beloved for the fathers' sakes. [29] For the gifts and calling of
God are without repentance. [30] For as ye in times past have not believed
God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief: [31] Even so have
these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain
mercy. [32] For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have
mercy upon all.

Matthew 5:18
For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one
tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.


Galatians 5:3
For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a
debtor to do the whole law.


Zech. 12:10
And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of
Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look
upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one
mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that
is in bitterness for his firstborn.

1 Chron. 22:6-10
Then he called for Solomon his son, and charged him to build an house
for the Lord God of Israel. [7] And David said to Solomon, My son, as for
me, it was in my mind to build an house unto the name of the Lord my God:
[8] But the word of the Lord came to me, saying, Thou hast shed blood
abundantly, and hast made great wars: thou shalt not build an house unto my
name, because thou hast shed much blood upon the earth in my sight. [9]
Behold, a son shall be born to thee, who shall be a man of rest; and I will
give him rest from all his enemies round about: for his name shall be
Solomon, and I will give peace and quietness unto Israel in his days. [10]
He shall build an house for my name; and he shall be my son, and I will be
his father; and I will establish the throne of his kingdom over Israel for
ever.


Ezekiel 44:9
Thus saith the Lord God; No stranger, uncircumcised in heart, nor
uncircumcised in flesh, shall enter into my sanctuary, of any stranger that
is among the children of Israel.


Ezekiel 44:23-24
And they shall teach my people the difference between the holy and
profane, and cause them to discern between the unclean and the clean. [24]
And in controversy they shall stand in judgment; and they shall judge it
according to my judgments: and they shall keep my laws and my statutes in
all mine assemblies; and they shall hallow my sabbaths.


His,

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