ANOTHER GOD QUESTION

[Christopher A. Lee]

On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 20:31:04 -0400, "Bill M" <wmech@bellsouth.net>
wrote:

>If you don't like my posts there is a very simple solution - don't read
>them!

Answer the question.

>"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
>news:0btph2p56hdq93600ngkc7log0ebmdju43@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 19:28:28 -0400, "Bill M" <wmech@bellsouth.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Another god question.
>>>
>>>If this all loving god created the Universe and everything in it, why was
>>>he
>>>so cruel that he created 12,000 illnesses and killing Plagues, Tsunamis,
>>>Tornadoes, Volcanic Eruptions, Earth Quakes, Wars, Floods etc.
>>
>> Why do you have to keep cross-posting this stuff?

Well?

>> If you're going totroll the religious groups, at least leave
>> alt.atheism out of it.
>>
>>>Is this evidence of an all powerful and loving god?
>>
>> Obviously not - but you're preaching to the deconverted.
>

 

[Tuco Ramirez]

Father Haskell wrote:
> Tuco Ramirez wrote:
> > Steve O wrote:
> > > "Tuco Ramirez" <tucodrat@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:1159454830.405900.56600@d34g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
> > > >
> > > > Uncle Vic wrote:
> > > >> Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Tuco Ramirez
> > > >> (tucodrat@yahoo.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
> > > >>
> > > >> >
> > > >> > And I quote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > " Uncle Vic
> > > >> > aa Atheist #2011
> > > >> > Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
> > > >> > chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
> > > >> > Plonked by Kadaitcha Man"
> > > >> >
> > > >> > And you have the nerve to make judgments on other people's mental
> > > >> > state.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > May I suggest you leave those pills alone, specially the yellow ones?
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >> Sarcasm and humor are obviously beyond you. Poor Taco.
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > Ditto
> > >
> > > Oh, come on, it's a well known fact that all born again Christians are
> > > required to undergo a sense of humour bypass.
> > >
> > For the sake of argument, let's say that's true. What does it have to
> > do with me, the great
> > Tuco Benedito Pacifico Juan Maria Ramirez?
>
> Huh? Weren't you killed by Italians back in 1945?

I suspect you are confusing me with my uncle, Il Duce Benito, and he
was killed in 1943, not 1945.

There can be more than 1 Duce, but there is only 1 Tuco Benedito
Pacifico Juan Maria Ramirez.

 

[Uncle Vic]

Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Tuco Ramirez
(tucodrat@yahoo.com) made the light shine upon us with this:

>
> There can be more than 1 Duce, but there is only 1 Tuco Benedito
> Pacifico Juan Maria Ramirez.
>
>

Heh heh... Maria.

--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Plonked by Kadaitcha Man

 

[Tuco Ramirez]

Uncle Vic wrote:
> Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Tuco Ramirez
> (tucodrat@yahoo.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
>
> >
> > There can be more than 1 Duce, but there is only 1 Tuco Benedito
> > Pacifico Juan Maria Ramirez.
> >
> >
>
> Heh heh... Maria.
>

You are easily amused, aren't you aunt Victoria.

HehHeh Heh.

I sent you a tennis ball in the mail; that will keep amused for a
couple of weeks.

HehHeh! Heh! HehHeh! Heh! HehHeh! Heh!

 

[Christopher A. Lee]

On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 20:31:04 -0400, "Bill M" <wmech@bellsouth.net>
wrote:

>If you don't like my posts there is a very simple solution - don't read
>them!

Please address the actual reason I asked you why you posted this
stuff, not your own fabrication (polite word for lie).

Once again: If you're going to troll the religious groups, at least
leave alt.atheism out of it.

Try to be less dishonest this time.

>"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
>news:0btph2p56hdq93600ngkc7log0ebmdju43@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 19:28:28 -0400, "Bill M" <wmech@bellsouth.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Another god question.
>>>
>>>If this all loving god created the Universe and everything in it, why was
>>>he
>>>so cruel that he created 12,000 illnesses and killing Plagues, Tsunamis,
>>>Tornadoes, Volcanic Eruptions, Earth Quakes, Wars, Floods etc.
>>
>> Why do you have to keep cross-posting this stuff?
>>
>>>
>>
>> If you're going totroll the religious groups, at least leave
>> alt.atheism out of it.
>>
>>>Is this evidence of an all powerful and loving god?
>>
>> Obviously not - but you're preaching to the deconverted.
>

 

[thomas p.]

Tuco Ramirez skrev:
> Father Haskell wrote:
> > Tuco Ramirez wrote:
> > > Steve O wrote:
> > > > "Tuco Ramirez" <tucodrat@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:1159454830.405900.56600@d34g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
> > > > >
> > > > > Uncle Vic wrote:
> > > > >> Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Tuco Ramirez
> > > > >> (tucodrat@yahoo.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > And I quote:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > " Uncle Vic
> > > > >> > aa Atheist #2011
> > > > >> > Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
> > > > >> > chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
> > > > >> > Plonked by Kadaitcha Man"
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > And you have the nerve to make judgments on other people's mental
> > > > >> > state.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > May I suggest you leave those pills alone, specially the yellow ones?
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Sarcasm and humor are obviously beyond you. Poor Taco.
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > > Ditto
> > > >
> > > > Oh, come on, it's a well known fact that all born again Christians are
> > > > required to undergo a sense of humour bypass.
> > > >
> > > For the sake of argument, let's say that's true. What does it have to
> > > do with me, the great
> > > Tuco Benedito Pacifico Juan Maria Ramirez?
> >
> > Huh? Weren't you killed by Italians back in 1945?
>
> I suspect you are confusing me with my uncle, Il Duce Benito, and he
> was killed in 1943, not 1945.


April 1945

>
> There can be more than 1 Duce, but there is only 1 Tuco Benedito
> Pacifico Juan Maria Ramirez.

 

[Tuco Ramirez]

thomas p. wrote:
> Tuco Ramirez skrev:
> > Father Haskell wrote:
> > > Tuco Ramirez wrote:
> > > > Steve O wrote:
> > > > > "Tuco Ramirez" <tucodrat@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:1159454830.405900.56600@d34g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Uncle Vic wrote:
> > > > > >> Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Tuco Ramirez
> > > > > >> (tucodrat@yahoo.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > And I quote:
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > " Uncle Vic
> > > > > >> > aa Atheist #2011
> > > > > >> > Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
> > > > > >> > chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
> > > > > >> > Plonked by Kadaitcha Man"
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > And you have the nerve to make judgments on other people's mental
> > > > > >> > state.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > May I suggest you leave those pills alone, specially the yellow ones?
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Sarcasm and humor are obviously beyond you. Poor Taco.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ditto
> > > > >
> > > > > Oh, come on, it's a well known fact that all born again Christians are
> > > > > required to undergo a sense of humour bypass.
> > > > >
> > > > For the sake of argument, let's say that's true. What does it have to
> > > > do with me, the great
> > > > Tuco Benedito Pacifico Juan Maria Ramirez?
> > >
> > > Huh? Weren't you killed by Italians back in 1945?
> >
> > I suspect you are confusing me with my uncle, Il Duce Benito, and he
> > was killed in 1943, not 1945.
>
>
> April 1945

True.


>
> >
> > There can be more than 1 Duce, but there is only 1 Tuco Benedito
> > Pacifico Juan Maria Ramirez.

 

[Father Haskell]

Uncle Vic wrote:
> Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Tuco Ramirez
> (tucodrat@yahoo.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
>
> >
> > There can be more than 1 Duce, but there is only 1 Tuco Benedito
> > Pacifico Juan Maria Ramirez.
> >
> >
>
> Heh heh... Maria.

Maria... Maria.... yes, they called the wind mar-ia...

 

[Uncle Vic]

Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Father Haskell
(fatherhaskell@yahoo.com) made the light shine upon us with this:

>
> Uncle Vic wrote:
>> Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Tuco Ramirez
>> (tucodrat@yahoo.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
>>
>> >
>> > There can be more than 1 Duce, but there is only 1 Tuco Benedito
>> > Pacifico Juan Maria Ramirez.
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Heh heh... Maria.
>
> Maria... Maria.... yes, they called the wind mar-ia...
>
>

There's a hot wind
On my shoulder
Blowin' in from south of the border....

--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Plonked by Kadaitcha Man

 

[Richo]

Bill M wrote:
> Another god question.
>

Why are you so interested in gods?
Why should anyone else give a damn?
Pick one you like, worship it in private and just stop obsessing over
it!

>
> If this all loving god

"this" god? Which god?
What's his/her/its name?
Does he have a majic hammer that makes thunder and lightning?

> created the Universe and everything in it, why was he
> so cruel that he created 12,000 illnesses and killing Plagues, Tsunamis,
> Tornadoes, Volcanic Eruptions, Earth Quakes, Wars, Floods etc.
>

Ah! The nasty God of the Old Testament!
You really are obsessed with that one.
Pick a better one. There are heaps to choose from.

Mark.

 

[Father Haskell]

Uncle Vic wrote:
> Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Father Haskell
> (fatherhaskell@yahoo.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
>
> >
> > Uncle Vic wrote:
> >> Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Tuco Ramirez
> >> (tucodrat@yahoo.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
> >>
> >> >
> >> > There can be more than 1 Duce, but there is only 1 Tuco Benedito
> >> > Pacifico Juan Maria Ramirez.
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> Heh heh... Maria.
> >
> > Maria... Maria.... yes, they called the wind mar-ia...
> >
> >
>
> There's a hot wind
> On my shoulder
> Blowin' in from south of the border....

Wish I was in Tijuana,
eating barbecued iguana...

 

[Father Haskell]

Richo wrote:
> Bill M wrote:
> > Another god question.
> >
>
> Why are you so interested in gods?
> Why should anyone else give a damn?
> Pick one you like, worship it in private and just stop obsessing over
> it!
>
> >
> > If this all loving god
>
> "this" god? Which god?
> What's his/her/its name?
> Does he have a majic hammer that makes thunder and lightning?
>
> > created the Universe and everything in it, why was he
> > so cruel that he created 12,000 illnesses and killing Plagues, Tsunamis,
> > Tornadoes, Volcanic Eruptions, Earth Quakes, Wars, Floods etc.
> >
>
> Ah! The nasty God of the Old Testament!
> You really are obsessed with that one.
> Pick a better one. There are heaps to choose from.

Perkele, the Finnish fire god, for starters. Millions of Finns
call upon him daily.

 

[Tuco Ramirez]

Father Haskell wrote:
> Uncle Vic wrote:
> > Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Father Haskell
> > (fatherhaskell@yahoo.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
> >
> > >
> > > Uncle Vic wrote:
> > >> Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Tuco Ramirez
> > >> (tucodrat@yahoo.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
> > >>
> > >> >
> > >> > There can be more than 1 Duce, but there is only 1 Tuco Benedito
> > >> > Pacifico Juan Maria Ramirez.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >> Heh heh... Maria.
> > >
> > > Maria... Maria.... yes, they called the wind mar-ia...
> > >
> > >
> >
> > There's a hot wind
> > On my shoulder
> > Blowin' in from south of the border....
>
> Wish I was in Tijuana,
> eating barbecued iguana...

You silly gringo, that's what we you tell it is.
You don't want to know what it really is, senor.

 

[Father Haskell]

Tuco Ramirez wrote:
> Father Haskell wrote:
> > Uncle Vic wrote:
> > > Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Father Haskell
> > > (fatherhaskell@yahoo.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Uncle Vic wrote:
> > > >> Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Tuco Ramirez
> > > >> (tucodrat@yahoo.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
> > > >>
> > > >> >
> > > >> > There can be more than 1 Duce, but there is only 1 Tuco Benedito
> > > >> > Pacifico Juan Maria Ramirez.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >> Heh heh... Maria.
> > > >
> > > > Maria... Maria.... yes, they called the wind mar-ia...
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > There's a hot wind
> > > On my shoulder
> > > Blowin' in from south of the border....
> >
> > Wish I was in Tijuana,
> > eating barbecued iguana...
>
> You silly gringo, that's what we you tell it is.
> You don't want to know what it really is, senor.

No, not enough meat on a cat. It's all bones
and tendons.

Don't ask me how I know.

 

[Tuco Ramirez]

Father Haskell wrote:
> Tuco Ramirez wrote:
> > Father Haskell wrote:
> > > Uncle Vic wrote:
> > > > Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Father Haskell
> > > > (fatherhaskell@yahoo.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Uncle Vic wrote:
> > > > >> Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Tuco Ramirez
> > > > >> (tucodrat@yahoo.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > There can be more than 1 Duce, but there is only 1 Tuco Benedito
> > > > >> > Pacifico Juan Maria Ramirez.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Heh heh... Maria.
> > > > >
> > > > > Maria... Maria.... yes, they called the wind mar-ia...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > There's a hot wind
> > > > On my shoulder
> > > > Blowin' in from south of the border....
> > >
> > > Wish I was in Tijuana,
> > > eating barbecued iguana...
> >
> > You silly gringo, that's what we you tell it is.
> > You don't want to know what it really is, senor.
>
> No, not enough meat on a cat. It's all bones
> and tendons.
>
> Don't ask me how I know.

Don't need to, I know senor, I know.

Does this mean you have tried the Cat-a-la-Meow, it's a leftover from
the days of Maximilliam?

Good, isn't it?

 

[Uncle Vic]

Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Father Haskell
(fatherhaskell@yahoo.com) made the light shine upon us with this:

>
> Uncle Vic wrote:
>> Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Father Haskell
>> (fatherhaskell@yahoo.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
>>
>> >
>> > Uncle Vic wrote:
>> >> Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Tuco Ramirez
>> >> (tucodrat@yahoo.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > There can be more than 1 Duce, but there is only 1 Tuco Benedito
>> >> > Pacifico Juan Maria Ramirez.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Heh heh... Maria.
>> >
>> > Maria... Maria.... yes, they called the wind mar-ia...
>> >
>> >
>>
>> There's a hot wind
>> On my shoulder
>> Blowin' in from south of the border....
>
> Wish I was in Tijuana,
> eating barbecued iguana...
>
>

I hear the talking of the DJ
Can't understand just what does he say?

--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Plonked by Kadaitcha Man

 

[Frank Mayhar]

On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 15:25:50 -0500, Uncle Vic wrote:

> Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Father Haskell
> (fatherhaskell@yahoo.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
>
>>
>> Uncle Vic wrote:
>>> Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Father Haskell
>>> (fatherhaskell@yahoo.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
>>>
>>> >
>>> > Uncle Vic wrote:
>>> >> Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Tuco Ramirez
>>> >> (tucodrat@yahoo.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
>>> >>
>>> >> >
>>> >> > There can be more than 1 Duce, but there is only 1 Tuco Benedito
>>> >> > Pacifico Juan Maria Ramirez.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >>
>>> >> Heh heh... Maria.
>>> >
>>> > Maria... Maria.... yes, they called the wind mar-ia...
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>> There's a hot wind
>>> On my shoulder
>>> Blowin' in from south of the border....
>>
>> Wish I was in Tijuana,
>> eating barbecued iguana...
>>
>>
>
> I hear the talking of the DJ
> Can't understand just what does he say?

I understand just a little,
No comprende it's a riddle!
--
Frank Mayhar frank@exit.com http://www.exit.com/
Exit Consulting http://www.gpsclock.com/
http://www.exit.com/blog/frank/

 

[marcinmd]

Bill M wrote:
> Another god question.
>
>
>
> If this all loving god created the Universe and everything in it, why was he
> so cruel that he created 12,000 illnesses and killing Plagues, Tsunamis,
> Tornadoes, Volcanic Eruptions, Earth Quakes, Wars, Floods etc.
>
>
>
> Is this evidence of an all powerful and loving god?

Easy..

In the Christain view, God created man to live in a perfect World. But
he also gave him free will. That free will led him to the knowledge of
good and evil and hence sin and death entered into the World.. Man
therefore lives in a Fallen World with all the nasty stuff you
mentioned and then some... God does not want robots, he wants people to
have free choice. But they can also chose to be redeemed and he has
provided the means, at great cost, for them to do so..if they want it.

www.ourlifeinchrist.com

 

[Libertarius]

marcinmd wrote:
> Bill M wrote:
>
>>Another god question.
>>
>>
>>
>>If this all loving god created the Universe and everything in it, why was he
>>so cruel that he created 12,000 illnesses and killing Plagues, Tsunamis,
>>Tornadoes, Volcanic Eruptions, Earth Quakes, Wars, Floods etc.
>>
>>
>>
>>Is this evidence of an all powerful and loving god?
>
>
> Easy..
>
> In the Christain view, God created man to live in a perfect World. But
> he also gave him free will. That free will led him to the knowledge of
> good and evil and hence sin and death entered into the World.. Man
> therefore lives in a Fallen World with all the nasty stuff you
> mentioned and then some...

===>Can't you guys see how idiotic it is to believe a FAIRY TALE
that all this happened because a man, sculpted by an alien named
YHWH, dared to eat a fruit?
It is incredible how stupid human beings can be! -- L.

 

[marcinmd]

Can't you see how unlikely it is that the Universe and all that is in
it is an accident? Even superficial observation of nature would lead a
reasonable person to see a divine hand. That is why almost every
society advanced and primitive alike have assumed some sort of Divine
root to creation..

It was not until the 19th century that Atheism appear on the scene. As
people more and more lived in world that was mechanical, plastic
wrapped and freeze dried the more they have become estranged from the
natural order. Never the less, science has dove-tailed many
assumptions of the Judeo Christian World View.. Multiple dimensions,
the nature of time and space and survival of death have all been
increasingly confirmed and understood by the scientific method..

Albert Einstein was hardly an "idiot" and he believe in God as the
root source of creation.. Atheism simply does not answer the question
"Why is there something rather than nothing" . Why would only Material
be eternally existent and not life itself? Atheists have problems with
ceding authority above their own personal ego's.

As far as creation myths go, they should not be read like a blueprint
as to.. HOW.. things were created. They explain.. WHY.. the World was
created, which is an infinitely more valuable message.