ImWithStupid
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Yes. Yes, you are.
Yes. Yes, you are.
phreakwars
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So answer the question, what's the complaint/conspiracy about Obama THIS week? 
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ImWithStupid
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So answer the question, what's the complaint/conspiracy about Obama THIS week?
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I would so, love to hold your hand on this one and if I must I will. First look up the definition of "stimulus", then look at your own post that only 10% of the money has been spent and it's mostly back ended to fund programs that don't stimulate the economy, but support secular progressive programs, and try to put 2 & 2 together and figure out the cartoon.
It is a cartoon by the way. It wasn't meant to stump anyone, just illustrate the obvious.
phreakwars
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So what are these secular socialist programs it's supporting? Enlighten me.
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ImWithStupid
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Really?
There are many threads and posts that have covered what the far left jammed into the spendulus bill to advance their agenda and had nothing to do with stimulating the economy.
Do I really have to take you by the hand and show you again?
Lets start with the 2/3 of the money set aside for a program that hadn't even been proposed yet.
They were able to get the money approved based on fear mongering alone. Remember, if we don't pass the bill, unemployment will reach 8.5%, and if we do fall for the BS, it will only reach 8%.
phreakwars
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There are many threads on here about alleged programs that were eventually proved to be GOP lies and myths. So what are these CURRENT socialist programs that are being implemented right now as we type, be specific.
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ImWithStupid
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I have gone over this time and time again on here. Find the posts yourself.
You obviously don't really read what is force fed to you so I refuse to do it again.
Happy hunting.
phreakwars
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In other words, you can ramble on about all these alleged social programs that Obama is secretly implementing to screw the tax payers and enslave us and what have you, but you can't name a specific program that is currently being implemented so you'd rather tell me to go chase shadows of the past and find them.
Sorry but if there are such a thing as these socialist programs happening Fox News would have been all over that by now cutting it down instead of insinuating that "those evil liberals are scheming against America with this evil socialist plan". I'm just asking a very simple question, so what is this socialist program that is now in place. I don't need to look to see which "ALLEGED" social program was rumored to be happening. The proof is in the pudding, so surely you can name just one program of Obama's that is in place at this moment that is socialist.
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Sorry but if there are such a thing as these socialist programs happening Fox News would have been all over that by now cutting it down instead of insinuating that "those evil liberals are scheming against America with this evil socialist plan". I'm just asking a very simple question, so what is this socialist program that is now in place. I don't need to look to see which "ALLEGED" social program was rumored to be happening. The proof is in the pudding, so surely you can name just one program of Obama's that is in place at this moment that is socialist.
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phreakwars
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Here, I'll help ya get a head start on next week's complaint/conspiracy about the President.
PolitiFact | The Obameter: Tracking Barack Obama's Campaign Promises
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PolitiFact | The Obameter: Tracking Barack Obama's Campaign Promises
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ImWithStupid
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No. In other words I already went over this back in February and explained all this when the Spedulous bill was a news topic and you only could spout this and that about obstructionist this and obstructionist that, and really didn't pay attention to what was said, because it was all spelled out for you then.
Of course by your own admission, you don't know much about politics, so I shouldn't be surprised.
By the way. Sorry to burst your bubble but I don't live and die by Fox News talking points like you do with MSNBC, HuffPo and Daily Kos, so I wouldn't have a clue what is or isn't said on there.
Oh yea, one more time that you tried to claim I said something I didn't say. At what point did I even mention the word "socialist".
Keep up the good work. You'll make it from the Daily Kos to a Keith Overbite writer yet.
ImWithStupid
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One more post that has nothing to do with the topic at hand but is some kind of left wing talking point, jab.
phreakwars
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Still can't name that program, can ya.
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ImWithStupid
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You mean name them "again" because I've already gone over this. The biggest one is health care, but there is all the "green" projects that are proving to be back ended.Still can't name that program, can ya.
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Did you even look at the definition of stimulus? I bet not.
The president lied. Nothing about the "stimulus" bill was meant to imediately help the economy and dolts like you and your blind following ilk fell for it when people like myself said back in February it wasn't going to do what the lying president and his minions said and it has proven to be just as people like myself said. Not effective and not because it was a mistake but because it was never meant to do what they convinced people like yourself it would do.
Any buyers remorse from you sheeple yet? Acutally it's growing like a friggin' wild fire among those who can honestly admit it.
I get the feeling you don't fall in that category yet.
phreakwars
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And your right, I'm dumb when it comes to politics, so enlighten me. I mean, I've heard all the complaints about all this big spending and you DID say:
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So OK, the word socialist isn't there. So what are these secular progressive programs your so against that are happening now... There that better? I even quoted you this time so you can't deny you said it. My reference to you saying things about socialist programs, is your commentary in the past about this and that alleged evil the Democrats are plotting. So what are these secular progressive programs that are now in place? School me..
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RoyalOrleans
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This is how your federal government believes we are going to get this economy back on track. It wants to spend stimulus money on preventing homelessness. Yes, seriously. That would be another $1.5 billion of your tax dollars to be distributed to communities around the country for the purpose of preventing homelessness. Here are some examples of projects that are being funded. You take a look and tell me if you think these are the people that you are going to be looking for when you need your next pay check.
?Fresno, California will be given $1 million to dismantle tent cities and move resident's into privately owned apartments.
?A nonprofit in eastern Idaho hopes to apply its stimulus funds toward one-time payments for rent or mortgages to those on the verge of losing their homes.
?Stockton, California plans to buy foreclosed houses and renovate them as affordable housing.
?Franklin County, Pa., will use stimulus money to help families with back rent and utilities, moving costs, short-term storage and credit repair.
?In Reading, Pa., a coalition for the homeless plans to provide short-term rent aid and landlord-tenant mediation to prevent evictions.
Now ... do you have any questions as to why this wonderful Obama generated stimulus program isn't working? How in the world does tearing down a tent city stimulate our economy?
You're starting to get a clue as to why Barack's approval rating is heading steadily down, aren't you?
?Fresno, California will be given $1 million to dismantle tent cities and move resident's into privately owned apartments.
?A nonprofit in eastern Idaho hopes to apply its stimulus funds toward one-time payments for rent or mortgages to those on the verge of losing their homes.
?Stockton, California plans to buy foreclosed houses and renovate them as affordable housing.
?Franklin County, Pa., will use stimulus money to help families with back rent and utilities, moving costs, short-term storage and credit repair.
?In Reading, Pa., a coalition for the homeless plans to provide short-term rent aid and landlord-tenant mediation to prevent evictions.
Now ... do you have any questions as to why this wonderful Obama generated stimulus program isn't working? How in the world does tearing down a tent city stimulate our economy?
You're starting to get a clue as to why Barack's approval rating is heading steadily down, aren't you?
phreakwars
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So which of these plans for the stimulus are actually being implemented at this very moment? I just read where they want to use it for these things... has it ACTUALLY been used for these things?
Until it is, that is just hearsay and rumor.
I see you never read the stimulus plan either Alex. It is published online in PDF for free ya know Mr. Jones. .
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timesjoke
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lol, well being as not one Democrat read it before they signed it why should anyone else?
But yes I have read it and there is no "real" tax break in there.
Obama calls tax credits a tax reduction but by definition a tax is something that a person pays out of their pocket to support the functions of the Government. Almost all of the people who qualify for the tax credits pay no or little tax and those who do pay some tax take more out of the system than they pay in so even then they are not paying any taxes once the scale is applied to compare what they pay to what they use.
I see as usual you turn to name calling when you don't have facts, lol.
phreakwars
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I don't have facts? And your the one saying:
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State your case there Alex. So which line on the Stimulus says/gives that? You said you have read it after all..
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timesjoke
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That is true, most of the people who get these tax credits already pay little or no tax. That is not to say there are not exceptions, just that the majority are already not paying taxes. Do you really not understand that concept?
And my name is times or even Louis, any question using a different name will be ignored from now on. You would ban me if I was just as disrespectful as your being with the name calling. Your need to use insulting names proves you know your wrong.
And my name is times or even Louis, any question using a different name will be ignored from now on. You would ban me if I was just as disrespectful as your being with the name calling. Your need to use insulting names proves you know your wrong.