Flatearther
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How often have we witnessed, helplessly, the heart-wrenching situation where someone
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I had an accountant & a folksinger that I felt the same way about - I feel your pain. Cheers!Lethalfind said:I had two cats that I would pay to have cloned...
Nonetheless, from the perspective of the deceased child, there is no argument that it is most certainly and absolutely dead and gone. But from the point of view of the grieving parents and relatives, their child would be literally
All of course based on the rather quaint assumption that everyone else sees things the way we do. A quick glance at the Elvis Industry soon assures us that religious states & figures are a pretty widespread hobby. Elvis relics are traded like Jesus relics, except there's more of them to trade (Elvis memorabilia, that is). Many parents are so desperate to deny a loss of child that they'd do almost anything - just look at the way old scrappy little photographs of lost ones acquire a shrine like status. I'm not a betting man, but geez, I'd lay half the ranch down that if the technology for this was available here and now and you could order a replica within 24 hours, you'd need four extra arms & legs just to get around, because you'd be so busy stocking the shelves. Sentiment is a most powerful driving force. Cheers!I think it is very possible, ( probably has already been done secretly somewhere ) to clone a human being. An exact match with the exact same features... sure.. but the exact same personality... NEVER !! Anybody who would want to clone a human being in the hopes of bringing them back needs ****ing therapy.
All quite factual, but not in line with the spirit of my thread. Of course the clone would be a different creature (like a twin of the original) and would have its own plumbing & wiring - no argument there. The big question is why would someone bother to go to such ostensibly idiotic lengths? The answer is in my reply to Phreakwars. Look at the Elvis Industry - to millions, the ******* still hasn't stopped wriggling. The Elvis clone (imitators) factory demonstrates how passionately some will cling to ANY vestige of the loved (and even loathed - Stalin?) one. Even the desperate ones aren't stupid enough to believe that there's been a real Jesus style 'resurrection'. But they are goofy enough to preserve one in aspic and shove it on their mantlepiece..Phreak's right. A clone is a genetic copy, but the child will not be the same as the original in thought and deed. The voice might not even be the same, so while you end up raising a child that looks like the one you lost, the visual similarities are all you end up with, and you will not be the same as you were when the original child died.
Those who fall for any religious bullshit deserve everything they get - inherit the wind.I remember some religious sect nutter claiming to have already successfully completed a cloning of a human, but that must have been piss in the wind, because it went by the wayside.
Even that sort of stuff is fraught with imminent disappointment if one assumes that the CEO's of the funding organisations are interested in people's welfare and will not be swayed into corrupt practices by the lure of massive profits. What a gamble. Cheers!What we really need to focus on now is stem cell research, to help those who are living, and suffering. Unfortunately, our do-gooder dumb-**** religious pretender politicians fear they will lose the only voters they have if they support such brilliance in medical advancements.
Jhony5 said:I'm not buying it. People go messing with **** like that and they are asking for a curse. If someone did have that done to their child they might think they have a sweet little twin of their deceased child. Until they wake up late one night and witness their child howling at the moon with blood dripping from their jaws. To even suggest such a thing is purely evil.
Flatearther said:Everything you say is sad but true. To highlight the point, just observe the way some kids are treated after another kid is gone - say, two brothers & one gets run down & killed in an auto accident. The treatment of the surviving brother (or sister) will be visibly altered with all manner of projection & transference behaviours and substitutions. Objectively, cloning is just a fancy way of saying 'we'll give you something that's better than a photograph but not quite the real thing. For some, anything is better than nothing, for others, a secret (miraculous) resurrection is the driving wish list. As long as people believe in 'miracles' and 'divine intervention' and other religious manifestations, the need will remain. What people have a hard time dealing with is the suddennes, randomness and capriciousness of everyday life. Cheers!
Flatearther said:Which simply illustrates one of life's ironies in the guise of women's attachments. I have heard of many, many women ditching their husbands in the most brutal ways - but I've yet to hear of one divorcing her cat or dog - no matter how vicious, selfish or spiteful (the animal) might have been. They are forgiven EVERYTHING. The husbands are forgiven NOTHING. Cheers!
Why? Is there someone they didn't get even with? Not all the parking lots have been dug up yet you know - have patience. Cheers!RoyalOrleans said:I bet John and Patsy (Rot in Hell) Ramsey wish cloning technology was around ten years ago.