Georgians hate fox news too !!

[RoyalOrleans]

The point I was trying to make was that the neighbours of the US cannot place missile systems on their own soil, pointing at the USA, as we saw with Cuba in the 60,s. Neither would the US tolerate it today from Canada, Mexico, Cuba or the Bahamas.

I'd like to see a Mexican WMD. I bet it has spinning rims, fuzzy dice hanging from it, beaded curtains on the tail, and is filled with refried beans and cheese.

How about a Canadian WMD? I bet it's initial explosion would be almost apologetic.

 

[RoyalOrleans]

Russian Army Stands By As Mayhem Reigns In Gori

 

[RoyalOrleans]

Anyone who thinks this isn't an energy/powerplay against the European Union (meaning the ******* in France, Germany and their friends) by Russia in Georgia, is an idiot...

Here... the EU's power players have a golden opportunity to show their clout.

I seriously doubt they will do more than sissy-slapping the Russians. It will be up to the United States to quell this situation and then take heavy criticism from France and Germany.

 

[ImWithStupid]

It seems reasonable that Poland should have a defensive capability. But if Russia does bomb those installations with great loss of life as it has said it might, then it will have caused conflict, not prevented it.
I think Poland is playing a dangerous game with Russia, and the West is egging them on.

So because Poland wants a defensive missile system in it's own soverign borders, it is making Russia attack them. Let me guess, the girl that gets raped was also "asking for it" because she dressed sexy.

 

[Old Salt]

I'm sure that if "we" back down from this situation, "we" will have "peace in our time".

Neville Chamberlain? Who was he?

 

[ImWithStupid]

I'm sure that if "we" back down from this situation, "we" will have "peace in our time".

Seemed to work well with Neville Chamberlain and his Munich agreement with Hitler in 1939, when he claimed we would have, "Peace In Our Time".

We were however supposed to forget that Germany had already annexed Austria and that Czechoslovakia was told to accept Germany's annexation or it would have to resist Germany alone. Germany "promised" it wouldn't go farther than that. Kind of like how Russia promised to leave Georgia, but still hasn't, and continues to take military arms, vehicles, aircraft from Georgia and is also taking over or destroying it's infrastructure like bridges and power plants.

 

[sheik-yerbouti]

So because Poland wants a defensive missile system in it's own soverign borders, it is making Russia attack them. Let me guess, the girl that gets raped was also "asking for it" because she dressed sexy.

I didn't say that.

Deploying missile silos at Russia's border is seen as an act of aggression. There may be dire consequences for Poland in doing so.

The West should not encourage Poland to do so. They will not back Poland up when push comes to shove. They will stand well clear saying tut tut tut, while Poland smoulders.

 

[ImWithStupid]

I didn't say that.
Deploying missile silos at Russia's border is seen as an act of aggression. There may be dire consequences for Poland in doing so.

The West should not encourage Poland to do so. They will not back Poland up when push comes to shove. They will stand well clear saying tut tut tut, while Poland smoulders.

You really need to do a Google search for "interceptor missiles". They are not offensive/nuclear missile silos, they aren't offensive weapons, they don't even have explosives in them.

http://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/app4/gbi.html

Let me give you a more equal situation. The woman deserved to be raped because she had a "rape whistle" for defense, just like Poland deserves to be attacked because they want a way to defend themselves from attack, that can't hurt anyone.

 

[sheik-yerbouti]

You really need to do a Google search for "interceptor missiles". They are not offensive/nuclear missile silos, they aren't offensive weapons, they don't even have explosives in them.
Boeing Ground-Based Interceptor

Let me give you a more equal situation. The woman deserved to be raped because she had a "rape whistle" for defense, just like Poland deserves to be attacked because they want a way to defend themselves from attack, that can't hurt anyone.

I heard you the first time. As I said before, saying that its just a defensive system doesn't make it so.

Iran says its nuclear policy is simply for the production of electricity. Do you really believe that too ?

Its just bull they are trying to run past the audience.

 

[ImWithStupid]

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By ALAN COWELL

Published: February 24, 2007

Correction Appended

LONDON, Feb. 23 — Britain and the United States said Friday that they were discussing the stationing of an American antiballistic missile defense system on British soil.

Looks like Ireland better attack Great Britain for wanting to put defensive missiles in their own country.

 

[ImWithStupid]

I heard you the first time. As I said before, saying that its just a defensive system doesn't make it so.
Iran says its nuclear policy is simply for the production of electricity. Do you really believe that too ?

Its just bull they are trying to run past the audience.

The difference is, the US, like Russia, has no need to put offensive weapons near anyone. They can target anything, anywhere in the world, from home. There is no reason to lie about these being defensive.

 

[sheik-yerbouti]

Uh oh!


Looks like Ireland better attack Great Britain for wanting to put defensive missiles in their own country.

I doubt if that would make Ireland feel threatened

 

[ImWithStupid]

I doubt if that would make Ireland feel threatened

Why? Because they don't plan on firing missiles at GB? Thanks for proving my point that the only reason a country would oppose these is if they plan on being agressive.

 

[sheik-yerbouti]

Why? Because they don't plan on firing missiles at GB? Thanks for proving my point that the only reason a country would oppose these is if they plan on being agressive.

I have not proved your point.

Ireland would not be fearful of the UK having missile systems. Firstly, they would not be pointed at Ireland. Secondly, the UK has no ulterior motive regarding Ireland.

The situation in Poland is different. The USA/West would point that missile system at Russia. In addition, there are ulterior motives. The USA/West want Russia to feel threatened. They also want to poison Russia's relationship with its neighbours, isolating Russia as far as possible.

Furthermore, your defensive system would most likely covertly become an offensive system. This is exactly what I would expect over time.

Poland is in danger of becomming a ****. It should not allow the silo on their soil. If attacked by Russia as a consequence of its siting, the USA/West will do nothing to aid Poland, apart from the usual bluster.

 

[ImWithStupid]

I have not proved your point.
Ireland would not be fearful of the UK having missile systems. Firstly, they would not be pointed at Ireland. Secondly, the UK has no ulterior motive regarding Ireland.

The situation in Poland is different. The USA/West would point that missile system at Russia. In addition, there are ulterior motives. The USA/West want Russia to feel threatened. They also want to poison Russia's relationship with its neighbours, isolating Russia as far as possible.

Furthermore, your defensive system would most likely covertly become an offensive system. This is exactly what I would expect over time.

Poland is in danger of becomming a ****. It should not allow the silo on their soil. If attacked by Russia as a consequence of its siting, the USA/West will do nothing to aid Poland, apart from the usual bluster.

If Russia was truly worried about what you say, why don't they care that there is a missile defense system in Japan?

You're argument keeps assuming that these will be made offensive. Japan is about as close to Russia as Poland, just off the coast of Russia and it's Pacific naval bases. The logical difference is, Russia has no agressive plans for Japan like they do in central Europe.

As I said before, the US has no reason to put offensive missiles near Russia. If the US wanted to act offensively toward Russia, subs and ICBMs could hit anything anywhere.

 

[snafu]

Putting a defense system in any country is a good idea if you ask me. I would love to eliminate the threat of nuclear attacks. Unlike Iran, Poland can be monitored by the U.N. to make sure there is no offensive missiles and or nukes.

 

[wez]

Putting a defense system in any country is a good idea if you ask me. I would love to eliminate the threat of nuclear attacks. Unlike Iran, Poland can be monitored by the U.N. to make sure there is no offensive missiles and or nukes.

So what's the end goal of this ****?

Saw some stuff on the news tonight where Russia has really been cleaning the mothballs out of the military.. Navy, upgrading nukes, flying awfully close to Alaska.. But then again, they prolly see things happening in their part of the world that makes them nervous too. Pretty much have said if Ukraine joins NATO, their done.. Someone needs to dig up Reagan and kick his ***..

 

[snafu]

So what's the end goal of this ****?


Saw some stuff on the news tonight where Russia has really been cleaning the mothballs out of the military.. Navy, upgrading nukes, flying awfully close to Alaska.. But then again, they prolly see things happening in their part of the world that makes them nervous too. Pretty much have said if Ukraine joins NATO, their done.. Someone needs to dig up Reagan and kick his ***..

To detour the threat of a nuclear attack. If any country decides to deploy a nuke we don't necessarily have to retaliate with another nuclear attack, hence Armageddon.

It also cuts down the probability of a nation using nukes to blackmail other countries into submission.

 

[wez]

To detour the threat of a nuclear attack. If any country decides to deploy a nuke we don't necessarily have to retaliate with another nuclear attack, hence Armageddon.It also cuts down the probability of a nation using nukes to blackmail other countries into submission.

How about we use those resources for the good of humanity instead of the possibility of armageddon? It's a losers game.. There will never be any winners. Only losers.

 

[ImWithStupid]

I'm thinking missile defense should be something we want...

Iran says it has put first dummy satellite in orbitSun Aug 17, 2008 4:17pm EDT

By Parisa Hafezi

TEHRAN (Reuters) - Iran said it had put a dummy satellite into orbit on a home-grown rocket for the first time on Sunday -- a move likely to increase Western concerns about its nuclear ambitions.

The long-range ballistic technology used to put satellites into space can also be used for launching weapons, although Iran says it has no plans to do so.

http://www.reuters.com/article/scienceNews/idUSHAF75296620080817?feedType=RSS&feedName=scienceNews