GUN NUT MASSACRES 5 WOMEN IN CHICAGO CLOTHING STORE

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"robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> No, it's true in far too many cases. I've been in these threads before and
> there's always a couple people who start the "It's my right. I want to buy
> all the guns I want" blah blah
>
> Perhaps not you, but far too many of your ilk feel exactly that way.
> Screw the crime problem, have to have those guns.

How is his wanting guns going to alter the crime problem?



> "KerryHatch" <OingoBoingo@Bass.gov.> wrote in message
> news:47a7b6a4$0$25018$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>> robw, the top post retard wrote:
>>
>> > Thank you, you asshole because if the anti-gun ever does win it will be
>> > because of morons like you.
>> > "I want!"
>> >
>> > Yeah, meanwhile,the NRA tells us oh so how much they want responsible
> gun
>> > owners.
>> >
>> > You;re liars.
>> >
>> > You want to be able to buy guns and screw the consequences.
>> >
>> > You;re such a f cing fraud.
>>
>> Thanks for PROVING just how stupid you have become.
>>
>>
>
>

 

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"robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>I also posted that the proposed law would not effect collectors.

NOT EVERYONE IS A COLLECTOR.



>
> But you conveniently left that out.

Ok, you aren't going to effect collectors, every other law abiding citizen
however WILL be effected.

> Oh, it also wouldn't effect law enforcement people, and a few other
> groups.

Actually, it will unless they are buying the guns through their department.
As private citizens it effects them just as much as it would anyone else.


> "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message
> news:5FOpj.17298$hF2.10399@trnddc02...
>>
>> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:1_Sdnfb2e5qWODranZ2dnUVZ_oOdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> > Post it.
>> > Post when I said that.
>> >
>> > Bring it.
>>
>> From: "robw" <noddy...@comcast.net>
>> Subject: Re: GUN NUT MASSACRES 5 WOMEN IN CHICAGO CLOTHING STORE
>> Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 15:49:48 -0500
>>
>> Limit the sale of hand guns to one a month.
>>
>>
> http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.indian/msg/339cf4b0a5d607d9?dmode=source
>>
>> Proof presented.
>>
>>
>> > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message
>> > newsdMpj.2659$xE.1355@trnddc01...
>> >>
>> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> >> news:zvidnaygLpbGzzranZ2dnUVZ_gqdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> >> > Not true.
>> >>
>> >> Really? So you aren't asking that EVERYONE be limited to purchasing
> only
>> > one
>> >> gun a month?
>> >>
>> >> Odd, I seem to recall someone using your handle making that assertion.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in
>> >> > message
>> >> > news:Xns9A3A6E194264CSandman@216.196.97.136...
>> >> >> Magus <nope@noway.net> wrote in news:Zfwpj.65706$Mu4.23945
>> >> >> @bignews7.bellsouth.net:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > RD (The Sandman) wrote:
>> >> >> >> "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> wrote in
>> >> >> >> news:47a5fe4b$0$4049$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> if guns were illegal in public places, and he did not have a
> gun,
>> > he
>> >> >> >>> would not have ben able to kill so many wonderful, taxpaying,
> life
>> >> >> >>> lvoing productive innocent citizens who would have made the tax
>> > cuts
>> >> >> >>> possible that gun nuts on the other hands so love to have.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I would bet that his possession of a firearm was illegal. Wanna
>> >> >> >> bet?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I'd even be willing to bet that he was a convicted felon too.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Illegal for him to own a firearm.
>> >> >> > Illegal for him to possess a firearm.
>> >> >> > Illegal for him to use a firearm anywhere, let alone in Chicago
> and
>> >> >> that
>> >> >> > mall.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Murder is also illegal, that didn't stop him five instances.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Exactly, but all these anti gunners want to take guns from the
>> >> >> folks
>> > who
>> >> >> didn't do it.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> RD (The Sandman)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> War is absolute hell.....but to give in
>> >> >> to terrorism is much, much worse
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

 

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"robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>A gun or a knife.
>
> I narrowed the choices because I figured you'd have trouble.

Seems I didn't, but you clearly can't handle more than 2 alternatives hence
your return to this false binary set.


> "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message
> news:ZGOpj.46151$K%.39915@trnddc04...
>>
>> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:UsadnX_R8obKOzranZ2dnUVZ_oudnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> > 50 yards.
>> >
>> > You want a gun or a knife to make the kill?
>>
>> How about a nice crossbow. Silent, Deadly, and all but impossible to
> trace.
>>
>> Oh, that's right we're suppose to assume that criminals would be limited
> to
>> your fantasy limitation of choices.
>>
>>
>> > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message
>> > news:gfMpj.6905$M71.4141@trnddc08...
>> >>
>> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> >> news:s-2dnWlsdeLl7DranZ2dnUVZWhednZ2d@comcast.com...
>> >> > My thinking is that if the guy didn't have access to the gun he
>> >> > probably
>> >> > wouldn't have shot and killed people.
>> >>
>> >> Perhaps, but the issue is, would they still be alive, or would he
> simply
>> >> have killed them and possibly more by another means.
>> >>
>> >> Are you worried about saving lives, or just making sure they don't use
>> > guns?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > "KerryHatch" <OingoBoingo@Bass.gov.> wrote in message
>> >> > news:47a766e1$0$25018$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>> >> >> robw, the top postin retard wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Smiling that this is another gun event that we'll stuff down your
>> >> > throat?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> it wasn't a "gun event", you mental midget.
>> >> >> It was a MURDER EVENT.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Yeah asshole, you keep smiling.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I just smiled at your ignorance of what happened.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> YOU LAUGHED just because a gun was used by a retard like you, not
>> >> >> because innocent UNARMED PEOPLE were murdered.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> YOU still don't care, or understand.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

 

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"robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Why would people who are not criminals have a need to purchase more than
> one
> handgun a month?

Well to own 1 million guns as you said I could, I would need to buy more
than one gun a month.

> "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message
> news:IJOpj.6934$M71.6819@trnddc08...
>>
>> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:24ednZ278INVOjranZ2dnUVZ_hudnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> > People who are collectors.
>>
>> Which isn't everyone. Hence everyone else, almost all of whom are NOT
>> criminals shall be restricted because of your vain attempt to regulate
>> illegal guns. As if criminals are going to obey the law.
>>
>> > Who sell them? Asshole.
>>
>> Criminals.
>>
>> > Make a living that way, asshole???
>>
>> Sure, they make money selling illegal drugs, and they also make money
>> selling illegal guns. Oddly, the term "Black Market" was coined to
>> express
>> the fact that criminals can buy stuff which the law says isn't allowed.
>> Weird. Criminals find ways to get what they want even if it's illegal.
>>
>> > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message
>> > news:z_Mpj.2749$xE.1784@trnddc01...
>> >>
>> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> >> news:2pKdnakv2-DxBTranZ2dnUVZ_j6dnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> >> > The proposal wouldn't have effected collectors.
>> >>
>> >> Really? Every lawful citizen is a gun collector?
>> >>
>> >> If not, then you have yet to address the point made.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > Your next point ?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> That you couldn't address the point about Philly, a topic you brought
> to
>> > the
>> >> table, BTW.
>> >>
>> >> > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message
>> >> > news:l0Mpj.46128$K%.20160@trnddc04...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:TYSdnR5SR9CkzzranZ2dnUVZ_rWdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> >> >> > Im "get it" that morons like you have no regard for limiting
> illegal
>> >> > guns.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> How? By limiting legal guns like was proposed in Philly?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in
>> >> >> > message
>> >> >> > news:Xns9A3A6DEEB9FC1Sandman@216.196.97.136...
>> >> >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in
>> >> >> >> news:9-idnZPN-aPEHjvanZ2dnUVZ_sadnZ2d@comcast.com:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > I'm not opposed to guns.
>> >> >> >> > I'm opposed to illegal guns.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> So are we opposed to illegal possession of guns. Do you get it
>> >> >> >> now,
>> >> >> >> asshole?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> RD (The Sandman)
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> War is absolute hell.....but to give in
>> >> >> >> to terrorism is much, much worse
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

 

[Magus]

robw wrote:
> By shear numbers........yes.
>

What makes them criminals?

>
> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
> news:d54qj.60982$k27.13050@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
>> robw wrote:
>>> And the felon finds these recruits where?
>>>
>>> He already has people working for him.
>>>
>>> It might not be easy to find that many more people that can legally buy
>>> guns.
>>>
>>> It;s the inner city, not the burbs.
>>>
>>>
>> Are you saying that the inner city is full of criminals?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
>>> news:JvPpj.91276$K27.38256@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
>>>> robw wrote:
>>>>> The one gun question.....
>>>>>
>>>>> Let's see..... I'm a legal buyer who sells the guns to criminals.
>>>>>
>>>> Hypothesis accepted. However, what you're describing is NOT a "straw"
>>>> sale/purchase.
>>>>
>>>>> Thugs, as you all so "with it" morons like to refer it to.
>>>>>
>>>> Does it make you feel superior to denigrate others?
>>>>
>>>> Why do you feel the need to play the insult card? Because I'm
>>>> questioning your preconceptions?
>>>>
>>>>> If I'm buying 30 guns a month and selling them at 30 bucks [ profit ]
>>> I'm making 900
>>>>> bucks a month.
>>>>> (you following this?)
>>>>>
>>>> Seemingly much better than you are.
>>>>
>>>>> If I can only buy one handgun a month my profits kinda go down.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any questions?
>>>>>
>>>> So the felon working the straw-purchase scheme recruits more people to
>>>> buy guns for him, increasing the number of criminals and amount of
> crime.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:s1Mpj.91016$L%6.45696@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
>>>>>> robw wrote:
>>>>>>> So what is your definition and you might want to pas it along to Lou
>>> of
>>>>>>> Lou's pawn Shop [ Lou's Loans ] who got closed for such sales.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Someone gives you the money and you buy a gun for them is a straw
>>>>>> purchase. Doesn't matter if it's one gun or several.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In a straw-purchase scheme, a felon, barred by law from buying guns,
>>>>>> recruits someone who can legally buy guns. The intermediary fills out
>>>>>> forms, passes a background check, purchases the guns, then gives them
>>> to
>>>>>> the felon, who uses them to commit crimes or illegally resells them
> for
>>>>>> a big profit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lou's Loans lost its license because of a multitude of violations
> of
>>>>>> federal gun laws, some of those violations were straw
>>>>>> sales/purchases--also there were illegal purchases and selling
> multiple
>>>>>> guns to a person without notifying the ATF in violation of the
> Federal
>>>>>> Multiple Handgun Reporting program.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How does one gun a month eliminate "straw purchases"?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:ToLpj.90999$L%6.70175@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
>>>>>>>> robw wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Well, let's see.......
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If a legal purchaser buys many guns a month and sells them to
> people
>>>>> who
>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>> not legal to own.......vs. that same person only being able to buy
>>> one
>>>>>>> gun a
>>>>>>>>> month?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That is not, by definition, a straw sale.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Back to the original situation and question, how does 'one gun a
>>> month'
>>>>>>>> prevent straw buys?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:J3Lpj.90990$L%6.70634@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
>>>>>>>>>> robw wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Limit the sale of hand guns to one a month.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> How exactly does this prevent straw purchases?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The final recipient of the gun is not the one buying it from the
>>>>>>> dealer.
>>>>>>>>>> Also, currently there is a Federal Multiple Handgun Reporting
>>>>> program.
>>>>>>>>>> Current federal law requires dealers to report to ATF any
> "multiple
>>>>>>>>>> sales" of two or more handguns that occur within five consecutive
>>>>>>>>>> business days.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> And before you even start, this would not include people with
>>>>>>>>> collector's
>>>>>>>>>>> licenses.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Is there a current requirement to obtain a "collector's license"?
>>> Or
>>>>>>>>>> would this be a new requirement?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:dmKpj.60271$k27.3858@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
>>>>>>>>>>>> robw wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Eliminating straw buys would be a great start.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Straw buys are currently illegal.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> How do you propose to eliminate them?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:bEJpj.90928$L%6.33472@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> robw wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you want a legal carry law in Chicago, knock yourself
> out.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you want to legally own a million guns, so be it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just want illegal guns reduced to nothing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How do you suggest that be accomplished?
>>>
>
>

 

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"robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Ah, I was waiting for this.
>
> You do remember we did this dance some time back and I never backed down?
>
> Not happening now.
>
> I'll respond to you, no problem.
> But your memory is apparently not all that good.

I note you didn't answer his question.

> "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:Xns9A3B6397DF843Sandman@216.196.97.136...
>> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in
>> news:AZOdne9YC_QB9jXanZ2dnUVZ_q-dnZ2d@comcast.com:
>>
>> > Why would people who are not criminals have a need to purchase more
>> > than one handgun a month?
>>
>> Exactly what does "need" have to do with a right?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> RD (The Sandman)
>>
>> War is absolute hell.....but to give in
>> to terrorism is much, much worse
>
>

 

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"robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> But you've lived in what city?

Why does that matter?



> "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message
> news:kKOpj.17300$hF2.3938@trnddc02...
>>
>> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:KqKdncSXBeVvOjranZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> > Oh, you live in the sticks?
>>
>> Currently. I like it better. Fewer assholes like you.
>>
>>
>> > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message
>> > news:e2Npj.17272$hF2.2949@trnddc02...
>> >>
>> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> >> news:kpqdnfNprPrEBzranZ2dnUVZ_gydnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> >> > wanna come up to Philly and I'll buy a drink with that 8k????
>> >>
>> >> I doubt he wants a drink of sewer water.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > "KerryHatch" <OingoBoingo@Bass.gov.> wrote in message
>> >> > news:47a78ae2$0$25036$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>> >> >> robw, thr top[ posting retard wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > If I legally buy 60 guns a month and sell them to
> criminals.....and
>> > now
>> >> > I
>> >> >> > can only buy one gun a month...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> That would be a federal crime, you jackass.
>> >> >> Have you EVER paid attention?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Ya' wanna buy stock in my company?????
>> >> >>
>> >> >> You aren't smart enough to own a company.
>> >> >> Hells bells!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> You also lied when you said you won 8k on the Superbowl.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Your so full of ****, you make your brown eye blue!
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

 

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"robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> And the felon finds these recruits where?

Well, down here they found college students who needed some extra money.
Though anyone willing to make a little quick easy cash would do.


>
> He already has people working for him.

So much for your claim he can only get 1 a month.

> It might not be easy to find that many more people that can legally buy
> guns.

Actually a lot of people can legally buy guns.

> It;s the inner city, not the burbs.

Ah, so your contention is that the inner city is filled with nothing but
criminals?

I can see why you would want to restict law abiding citizens any access to
guns.


> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
> news:JvPpj.91276$K27.38256@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
>> robw wrote:
>> > The one gun question.....
>> >
>> > Let's see..... I'm a legal buyer who sells the guns to criminals.
>> >
>>
>> Hypothesis accepted. However, what you're describing is NOT a "straw"
>> sale/purchase.
>>
>> > Thugs, as you all so "with it" morons like to refer it to.
>> >
>>
>> Does it make you feel superior to denigrate others?
>>
>> Why do you feel the need to play the insult card? Because I'm
>> questioning your preconceptions?
>>
>> > If I'm buying 30 guns a month and selling them at 30 bucks [ profit ]
> I'm making 900
>> > bucks a month.
>> > (you following this?)
>> >
>>
>> Seemingly much better than you are.
>>
>> > If I can only buy one handgun a month my profits kinda go down.
>> >
>> > Any questions?
>> >
>>
>> So the felon working the straw-purchase scheme recruits more people to
>> buy guns for him, increasing the number of criminals and amount of crime.
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
>> > news:s1Mpj.91016$L%6.45696@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
>> >> robw wrote:
>> >>> So what is your definition and you might want to pas it along to Lou
> of
>> >>> Lou's pawn Shop [ Lou's Loans ] who got closed for such sales.
>> >>>
>> >> Someone gives you the money and you buy a gun for them is a straw
>> >> purchase. Doesn't matter if it's one gun or several.
>> >>
>> >> In a straw-purchase scheme, a felon, barred by law from buying guns,
>> >> recruits someone who can legally buy guns. The intermediary fills out
>> >> forms, passes a background check, purchases the guns, then gives them
> to
>> >> the felon, who uses them to commit crimes or illegally resells them
>> >> for
>> >> a big profit.
>> >>
>> >> Lou's Loans lost its license because of a multitude of violations of
>> >> federal gun laws, some of those violations were straw
>> >> sales/purchases--also there were illegal purchases and selling
>> >> multiple
>> >> guns to a person without notifying the ATF in violation of the Federal
>> >> Multiple Handgun Reporting program.
>> >>
>> >> How does one gun a month eliminate "straw purchases"?
>> >>
>> >>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
>> >>> news:ToLpj.90999$L%6.70175@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
>> >>>> robw wrote:
>> >>>>> Well, let's see.......
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> If a legal purchaser buys many guns a month and sells them to
>> >>>>> people
>> > who
>> >>> are
>> >>>>> not legal to own.......vs. that same person only being able to buy
> one
>> >>> gun a
>> >>>>> month?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>> That is not, by definition, a straw sale.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Back to the original situation and question, how does 'one gun a
> month'
>> >>>> prevent straw buys?
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
>> >>>>> news:J3Lpj.90990$L%6.70634@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
>> >>>>>> robw wrote:
>> >>>>>>> Limit the sale of hand guns to one a month.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> How exactly does this prevent straw purchases?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> The final recipient of the gun is not the one buying it from the
>> >>> dealer.
>> >>>>>> Also, currently there is a Federal Multiple Handgun Reporting
>> > program.
>> >>>>>> Current federal law requires dealers to report to ATF any
>> >>>>>> "multiple
>> >>>>>> sales" of two or more handguns that occur within five consecutive
>> >>>>>> business days.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> And before you even start, this would not include people with
>> >>>>> collector's
>> >>>>>>> licenses.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Is there a current requirement to obtain a "collector's license"?
> Or
>> >>>>>> would this be a new requirement?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
>> >>>>>>> news:dmKpj.60271$k27.3858@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
>> >>>>>>>> robw wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>> Eliminating straw buys would be a great start.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Straw buys are currently illegal.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> How do you propose to eliminate them?
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
>> >>>>>>>>> news:bEJpj.90928$L%6.33472@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
>> >>>>>>>>>> robw wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>> If you want a legal carry law in Chicago, knock yourself out.
>> >>>>>>>>>>> If you want to legally own a million guns, so be it.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> I just want illegal guns reduced to nothing.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> You?
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> How do you suggest that be accomplished?
>> >>>
>> >
>> >
>
>

 

[Scout]

"robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:b6OdnY4jnNG2fDXanZ2dnUVZ_s-dnZ2d@comcast.com...
> By shear numbers........yes.

Proof.


> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
> news:d54qj.60982$k27.13050@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
>> robw wrote:
>> > And the felon finds these recruits where?
>> >
>> > He already has people working for him.
>> >
>> > It might not be easy to find that many more people that can legally buy
>> > guns.
>> >
>> > It;s the inner city, not the burbs.
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Are you saying that the inner city is full of criminals?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
>> > news:JvPpj.91276$K27.38256@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
>> >> robw wrote:
>> >>> The one gun question.....
>> >>>
>> >>> Let's see..... I'm a legal buyer who sells the guns to criminals.
>> >>>
>> >> Hypothesis accepted. However, what you're describing is NOT a "straw"
>> >> sale/purchase.
>> >>
>> >>> Thugs, as you all so "with it" morons like to refer it to.
>> >>>
>> >> Does it make you feel superior to denigrate others?
>> >>
>> >> Why do you feel the need to play the insult card? Because I'm
>> >> questioning your preconceptions?
>> >>
>> >>> If I'm buying 30 guns a month and selling them at 30 bucks [ profit ]
>> > I'm making 900
>> >>> bucks a month.
>> >>> (you following this?)
>> >>>
>> >> Seemingly much better than you are.
>> >>
>> >>> If I can only buy one handgun a month my profits kinda go down.
>> >>>
>> >>> Any questions?
>> >>>
>> >> So the felon working the straw-purchase scheme recruits more people to
>> >> buy guns for him, increasing the number of criminals and amount of
> crime.
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
>> >>> news:s1Mpj.91016$L%6.45696@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
>> >>>> robw wrote:
>> >>>>> So what is your definition and you might want to pas it along to
>> >>>>> Lou
>> > of
>> >>>>> Lou's pawn Shop [ Lou's Loans ] who got closed for such sales.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>> Someone gives you the money and you buy a gun for them is a straw
>> >>>> purchase. Doesn't matter if it's one gun or several.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> In a straw-purchase scheme, a felon, barred by law from buying guns,
>> >>>> recruits someone who can legally buy guns. The intermediary fills
>> >>>> out
>> >>>> forms, passes a background check, purchases the guns, then gives
>> >>>> them
>> > to
>> >>>> the felon, who uses them to commit crimes or illegally resells them
> for
>> >>>> a big profit.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Lou's Loans lost its license because of a multitude of violations
> of
>> >>>> federal gun laws, some of those violations were straw
>> >>>> sales/purchases--also there were illegal purchases and selling
> multiple
>> >>>> guns to a person without notifying the ATF in violation of the
> Federal
>> >>>> Multiple Handgun Reporting program.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> How does one gun a month eliminate "straw purchases"?
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
>> >>>>> news:ToLpj.90999$L%6.70175@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
>> >>>>>> robw wrote:
>> >>>>>>> Well, let's see.......
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> If a legal purchaser buys many guns a month and sells them to
> people
>> >>> who
>> >>>>> are
>> >>>>>>> not legal to own.......vs. that same person only being able to
>> >>>>>>> buy
>> > one
>> >>>>> gun a
>> >>>>>>> month?
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> That is not, by definition, a straw sale.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Back to the original situation and question, how does 'one gun a
>> > month'
>> >>>>>> prevent straw buys?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
>> >>>>>>> news:J3Lpj.90990$L%6.70634@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
>> >>>>>>>> robw wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>> Limit the sale of hand guns to one a month.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> How exactly does this prevent straw purchases?
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> The final recipient of the gun is not the one buying it from the
>> >>>>> dealer.
>> >>>>>>>> Also, currently there is a Federal Multiple Handgun Reporting
>> >>> program.
>> >>>>>>>> Current federal law requires dealers to report to ATF any
> "multiple
>> >>>>>>>> sales" of two or more handguns that occur within five
>> >>>>>>>> consecutive
>> >>>>>>>> business days.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> And before you even start, this would not include people with
>> >>>>>>> collector's
>> >>>>>>>>> licenses.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Is there a current requirement to obtain a "collector's
>> >>>>>>>> license"?
>> > Or
>> >>>>>>>> would this be a new requirement?
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
>> >>>>>>>>> news:dmKpj.60271$k27.3858@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
>> >>>>>>>>>> robw wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Eliminating straw buys would be a great start.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> Straw buys are currently illegal.
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> How do you propose to eliminate them?
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
>> >>>>>>>>>>> news:bEJpj.90928$L%6.33472@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> robw wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> If you want a legal carry law in Chicago, knock yourself
> out.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> If you want to legally own a million guns, so be it.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I just want illegal guns reduced to nothing.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> You?
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> How do you suggest that be accomplished?
>> >>>
>> >
>> >
>
>

 

[Magus]

robw wrote:
> If you don't have a gun to shoot me, you can't shoot me.
>

But I thought you weren't advocating gun bans--or is your true agenda
showing through?

>
> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
> news:H84qj.60984$k27.17298@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
>> robw wrote:
>>> Hint: we want to stop those felonies.
>>>
>>>
>> That's the same thing the people who passed the law creating the
>> felonies to begin with wanted to do--stop a behavior.
>>
>> You're not going to change a behavior pattern by making something that
>> already illegal even illegaler.
>>
>>
>>

 

[Scout]

"robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:i-OdnXUcVI9v8DXanZ2dnUVZ_uWdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>I advocate a law that would significantly reduce the number of guns being
> sold to people who can not buy them legally themselves.

Sorry, but your one gun a month law doesn't change the number that can be
illegally sold to prohibited people in the least.

Your stupidity is noted.

> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
> news:GBPpj.91279$K27.52336@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
>> robw wrote:
>> > Do the math and get back to me.
>> >
>>
>> Math? What math?
>>
>> Straw sales are illegal behavior, you advocate a law that doesn't
>> address 'straw' sales/purchases.
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
>> > news:zfMpj.91023$L%6.28591@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
>> >> robw wrote:
>> >>> If I legally buy 60 guns a month and sell them to criminals.....and
> now
>> > I
>> >>> can only buy one gun a month...
>> >>>
>> >> Which is not "straw" sales. It is a violation of federal law--dealing
> in
>> >> firearms without a license though and as such is already illegal.
>> >>
>> >> And if those 60 guns are handguns, then those sales also get reported
> to
>> >> the ATF in accordance with current federal law.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> Ya' wanna buy stock in my company?????
>> >>>
>> >> I have no desire to participate in your conspiracy to violate federal
>> >> firearms laws.
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
>> >>> news:_wLpj.91004$L%6.53375@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
>> >>>> RD (The Sandman) wrote:
>> >>>>> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in news:ZdOdnRpL9
>> >>>>> _P65zranZ2dnUVZ_qydnZ2d@comcast.com:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> Limit the sale of hand guns to one a month.
>> >>>>> And will eliminate straw purchases....how????
>> >>>>>
>> >>>> It won't.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> If you read his reply to me when I asked nearly the identical
> question,
>> >>>> he states "If a legal purchaser buys many guns a month and sells
>> >>>> them
>> > to
>> >>>> people who are not legal to own.......vs. that same person only
>> >>>> being
>> >>>> able to buy one gun a month?"
>> >>>>
>> >>>> What he describes is not "straw sales" nor "straw buys".
>> >>>
>> >
>> >
>
>

 

[Scout]

"robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
newsvydndgBD8p-BDXanZ2dnUVZ_j-dnZ2d@comcast.com...
> Being sold to them by legal, but unscrupulous sellers.

If they are selling them to criminals, then they aren't legal sellers.

> "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:Xns9A3B60FAEA9D6Sandman@216.196.97.136...
>> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in
>> news:i-OdnXUcVI9v8DXanZ2dnUVZ_uWdnZ2d@comcast.com:
>>
>> > I advocate a law that would significantly reduce the number of guns
>> > being sold to people who can not buy them legally themselves.
>>
>> If they cannot legally buy a gun themselves then it makes no difference
>> if they try to buy one gun or fifty.
>>
>> > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
>> > news:GBPpj.91279$K27.52336@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
>> >> robw wrote:
>> >> > Do the math and get back to me.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Math? What math?
>> >>
>> >> Straw sales are illegal behavior, you advocate a law that doesn't
>> >> address 'straw' sales/purchases.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
>> >> > news:zfMpj.91023$L%6.28591@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
>> >> >> robw wrote:
>> >> >>> If I legally buy 60 guns a month and sell them to
>> >> >>> criminals.....and
>> > now
>> >> > I
>> >> >>> can only buy one gun a month...
>> >> >>>
>> >> >> Which is not "straw" sales. It is a violation of federal
>> >> >> law--dealing
>> > in
>> >> >> firearms without a license though and as such is already illegal.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> And if those 60 guns are handguns, then those sales also get
>> >> >> reported
>> > to
>> >> >> the ATF in accordance with current federal law.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> Ya' wanna buy stock in my company?????
>> >> >>>
>> >> >> I have no desire to participate in your conspiracy to violate
>> >> >> federal firearms laws.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
>> >> >>> news:_wLpj.91004$L%6.53375@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
>> >> >>>> RD (The Sandman) wrote:
>> >> >>>>> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in news:ZdOdnRpL9
>> >> >>>>> _P65zranZ2dnUVZ_qydnZ2d@comcast.com:
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> Limit the sale of hand guns to one a month.
>> >> >>>>> And will eliminate straw purchases....how????
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>> It won't.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> If you read his reply to me when I asked nearly the identical
>> > question,
>> >> >>>> he states "If a legal purchaser buys many guns a month and sells
>> >> >>>> them
>> >> > to
>> >> >>>> people who are not legal to own.......vs. that same person only
>> >> >>>> being able to buy one gun a month?"
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> What he describes is not "straw sales" nor "straw buys".
>> >> >>>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> RD (The Sandman)
>>
>> War is absolute hell.....but to give in
>> to terrorism is much, much worse
>
>

 

[Magus]

robw wrote:
> I've "advocated" nothing.
>
> I'm telling you what I believe.
>
>

I believe you're confused. You started your sentence "I advocate..."




> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
> news:ed4qj.60991$k27.43841@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
>> robw wrote:
>>> I advocate a law that would significantly reduce the number of guns
> being
>>> sold to people who can not buy them legally themselves.
>>>
>>>
>> OK, let's examine what you just advocated:
>>
>> If someone cannot legally buy a gun for themselves then it's illegal to
>> sell them one. So now you want to make another law to address the
>> already illegal activity of selling guns to prohibited persons.
>>
>>
>>
>>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
>>> news:GBPpj.91279$K27.52336@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
>>>> robw wrote:
>>>>> Do the math and get back to me.
>>>>>
>>>> Math? What math?
>>>>
>>>> Straw sales are illegal behavior, you advocate a law that doesn't
>>>> address 'straw' sales/purchases.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:zfMpj.91023$L%6.28591@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
>>>>>> robw wrote:
>>>>>>> If I legally buy 60 guns a month and sell them to criminals.....and
>>> now
>>>>> I
>>>>>>> can only buy one gun a month...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Which is not "straw" sales. It is a violation of federal law--dealing
>>> in
>>>>>> firearms without a license though and as such is already illegal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And if those 60 guns are handguns, then those sales also get reported
>>> to
>>>>>> the ATF in accordance with current federal law.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ya' wanna buy stock in my company?????
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have no desire to participate in your conspiracy to violate federal
>>>>>> firearms laws.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:_wLpj.91004$L%6.53375@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
>>>>>>>> RD (The Sandman) wrote:
>>>>>>>>> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in news:ZdOdnRpL9
>>>>>>>>> _P65zranZ2dnUVZ_qydnZ2d@comcast.com:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Limit the sale of hand guns to one a month.
>>>>>>>>> And will eliminate straw purchases....how????
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It won't.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you read his reply to me when I asked nearly the identical
>>> question,
>>>>>>>> he states "If a legal purchaser buys many guns a month and sells
> them
>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> people who are not legal to own.......vs. that same person only
> being
>>>>>>>> able to buy one gun a month?"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What he describes is not "straw sales" nor "straw buys".
>>>
>
>

 

[Scout]

"robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:VsOdnf3effLoBzXanZ2dnUVZ_rednZ2d@comcast.com...
> The problem in Philly is that things have become to big for straw buys
> laws
> to effectively work.

IOW, gun control doesn't effect criminals, so you want MORE of this
nonsense.


>
> When something doesn't work, you look for alternatives that could work.

Yet, you simply ask for more of the same.


> Unless you really like the idea of 400 murders every year.

Hey, I've got an idea. Let's enforce the laws that ALREADY EXIST?

I mean a straw buyer is already committing federal felonies that carry a
minimum manditory sentence of 10 years, possibly more.

> "Wayne" <mygarbagecan@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:jm0qj.17734$qI.14066@trnddc03...
>>
>> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:i-OdnXUcVI9v8DXanZ2dnUVZ_uWdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> >I advocate a law that would significantly reduce the number of guns
>> >being
>> > sold to people who can not buy them legally themselves.
>> >
>> I don't follow your statement. Are you talking about passing a law to
>> prevent "straw buyer" sales....while there currently is a law making
> "straw
>> buyer" sales illegal?
>>
>>
>
>

 

[robw]

I've made my opinions known.

What is it you're afraid of here?


"Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message
news:cL5qj.17864$qI.16726@trnddc03...
>
> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:4fGdnTDsIspg9DXanZ2dnUVZ_sSdnZ2d@comcast.com...
> > It's what's happening in Philly.
>
> Whoopee. The fact that it's ALREADY illegal doesn't seem to stop them, so
> how is making it MORE illegal going to?
>
>
> > "KerryHatch" <OingoBoingo@Bass.gov.> wrote in message
> > news:47a7b62e$0$25018$607ed4bc@cv.net...
> >> robw the top posting retard wrote:
> >>
> >> > Let's see, I sell 120 guns to illegal buyers.
> >>
> >> Why would you do that?
> >> Federal laws "prevent" that... don't they?
> >>
> >> The more you spew your imaginary thoughts, the more you PROVE how much
> >> of a jackasss you are.
> >>
> >> Stop watching TV!
> >
> >
>
>

 

[Scout]

"robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:HpSdne2gTan1fDXanZ2dnUVZ_uKdnZ2d@comcast.com...
> I've "advocated" nothing.
>
> I'm telling you what I believe.

Does Peter Pan figure into what you believe as well?




> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
> news:ed4qj.60991$k27.43841@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
>> robw wrote:
>> > I advocate a law that would significantly reduce the number of guns
> being
>> > sold to people who can not buy them legally themselves.
>> >
>> >
>>
>> OK, let's examine what you just advocated:
>>
>> If someone cannot legally buy a gun for themselves then it's illegal to
>> sell them one. So now you want to make another law to address the
>> already illegal activity of selling guns to prohibited persons.
>>
>>
>>
>> > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
>> > news:GBPpj.91279$K27.52336@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
>> >> robw wrote:
>> >>> Do the math and get back to me.
>> >>>
>> >> Math? What math?
>> >>
>> >> Straw sales are illegal behavior, you advocate a law that doesn't
>> >> address 'straw' sales/purchases.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
>> >>> news:zfMpj.91023$L%6.28591@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
>> >>>> robw wrote:
>> >>>>> If I legally buy 60 guns a month and sell them to criminals.....and
>> > now
>> >>> I
>> >>>>> can only buy one gun a month...
>> >>>>>
>> >>>> Which is not "straw" sales. It is a violation of federal
>> >>>> law--dealing
>> > in
>> >>>> firearms without a license though and as such is already illegal.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> And if those 60 guns are handguns, then those sales also get
>> >>>> reported
>> > to
>> >>>> the ATF in accordance with current federal law.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> Ya' wanna buy stock in my company?????
>> >>>>>
>> >>>> I have no desire to participate in your conspiracy to violate
>> >>>> federal
>> >>>> firearms laws.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
>> >>>>> news:_wLpj.91004$L%6.53375@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
>> >>>>>> RD (The Sandman) wrote:
>> >>>>>>> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in news:ZdOdnRpL9
>> >>>>>>> _P65zranZ2dnUVZ_qydnZ2d@comcast.com:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Limit the sale of hand guns to one a month.
>> >>>>>>> And will eliminate straw purchases....how????
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> It won't.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> If you read his reply to me when I asked nearly the identical
>> > question,
>> >>>>>> he states "If a legal purchaser buys many guns a month and sells
> them
>> >>> to
>> >>>>>> people who are not legal to own.......vs. that same person only
> being
>> >>>>>> able to buy one gun a month?"
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> What he describes is not "straw sales" nor "straw buys".
>> >>>
>> >
>> >
>
>

 

[robw]

You o.k. with one handgun purchase a month?


"Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message
news:YL5qj.95915$U12.70805@trnddc06...
>
> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:Qv-dnQlsmdH29zXanZ2dnUVZ_hidnZ2d@comcast.com...
> > No, it's true in far too many cases. I've been in these threads before
and
> > there's always a couple people who start the "It's my right. I want to
buy
> > all the guns I want" blah blah
> >
> > Perhaps not you, but far too many of your ilk feel exactly that way.
> > Screw the crime problem, have to have those guns.
>
> How is his wanting guns going to alter the crime problem?
>
>
>
> > "KerryHatch" <OingoBoingo@Bass.gov.> wrote in message
> > news:47a7b6a4$0$25018$607ed4bc@cv.net...
> >> robw, the top post retard wrote:
> >>
> >> > Thank you, you asshole because if the anti-gun ever does win it will
be
> >> > because of morons like you.
> >> > "I want!"
> >> >
> >> > Yeah, meanwhile,the NRA tells us oh so how much they want responsible
> > gun
> >> > owners.
> >> >
> >> > You;re liars.
> >> >
> >> > You want to be able to buy guns and screw the consequences.
> >> >
> >> > You;re such a f cing fraud.
> >>
> >> Thanks for PROVING just how stupid you have become.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

 

[Scout]

"robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:_fCdnbVdD46S8zXanZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@comcast.com...
> Hint: we want to stop those felonies.

Right, so rather than push to enforce the laws, we'll simply add yet another
law they can ignore with the result that nothing will change.....except for
the law abiding.


> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
> news:QDPpj.91281$K27.88919@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
>> robw wrote:
>> > Let's see, I sell 120 guns to illegal buyers.
>> >
>>
>> And each instance of you doing so is a felony.
>>
>> > Now I can only sell one.
>> >
>>
>> No, now you can only buy one from a FFL dealer.
>>
>> > You investing?????
>> >
>> >
>> > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message
>> > news:s3Npj.84358$ds2.38614@trnddc05...
>> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> >> news:v-SdnYIoNbMQBzranZ2dnUVZ_o-dnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> >>> Do the math and get back to me.
>> >> Ok, You engage in 120 federal felonies every month. The state passes a
>> > minor
>> >> law and suddenly you change your ways, seek God, and now only commit 2
>> >> federal felonies each month.
>> >>
>> >> Right, and pigs fly.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>
>

 

[robw]

You just proved you never read anything about the proposed law.


"Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message
news:tN5qj.17495$hF2.5005@trnddc02...
>
> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:CaqdnaDSg_NU9zXanZ2dnUVZ_jOdnZ2d@comcast.com...
> >I also posted that the proposed law would not effect collectors.
>
> NOT EVERYONE IS A COLLECTOR.
>
>
>
> >
> > But you conveniently left that out.
>
> Ok, you aren't going to effect collectors, every other law abiding citizen
> however WILL be effected.
>
> > Oh, it also wouldn't effect law enforcement people, and a few other
> > groups.
>
> Actually, it will unless they are buying the guns through their
department.
> As private citizens it effects them just as much as it would anyone else.
>
>
> > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message
> > news:5FOpj.17298$hF2.10399@trnddc02...
> >>
> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
> >> news:1_Sdnfb2e5qWODranZ2dnUVZ_oOdnZ2d@comcast.com...
> >> > Post it.
> >> > Post when I said that.
> >> >
> >> > Bring it.
> >>
> >> From: "robw" <noddy...@comcast.net>
> >> Subject: Re: GUN NUT MASSACRES 5 WOMEN IN CHICAGO CLOTHING STORE
> >> Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 15:49:48 -0500
> >>
> >> Limit the sale of hand guns to one a month.
> >>
> >>
> >
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.indian/msg/339cf4b0a5d607d9?dmode=source
> >>
> >> Proof presented.
> >>
> >>
> >> > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message
> >> > newsdMpj.2659$xE.1355@trnddc01...
> >> >>
> >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
> >> >> news:zvidnaygLpbGzzranZ2dnUVZ_gqdnZ2d@comcast.com...
> >> >> > Not true.
> >> >>
> >> >> Really? So you aren't asking that EVERYONE be limited to purchasing
> > only
> >> > one
> >> >> gun a month?
> >> >>
> >> >> Odd, I seem to recall someone using your handle making that
assertion.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> > "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in
> >> >> > message
> >> >> > news:Xns9A3A6E194264CSandman@216.196.97.136...
> >> >> >> Magus <nope@noway.net> wrote in news:Zfwpj.65706$Mu4.23945
> >> >> >> @bignews7.bellsouth.net:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > RD (The Sandman) wrote:
> >> >> >> >> "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> wrote in
> >> >> >> >> news:47a5fe4b$0$4049$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>> if guns were illegal in public places, and he did not have a
> > gun,
> >> > he
> >> >> >> >>> would not have ben able to kill so many wonderful, taxpaying,
> > life
> >> >> >> >>> lvoing productive innocent citizens who would have made the
tax
> >> > cuts
> >> >> >> >>> possible that gun nuts on the other hands so love to have.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> I would bet that his possession of a firearm was illegal.
Wanna
> >> >> >> >> bet?
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > I'd even be willing to bet that he was a convicted felon too.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Illegal for him to own a firearm.
> >> >> >> > Illegal for him to possess a firearm.
> >> >> >> > Illegal for him to use a firearm anywhere, let alone in Chicago
> > and
> >> >> >> that
> >> >> >> > mall.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Murder is also illegal, that didn't stop him five instances.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Exactly, but all these anti gunners want to take guns from the
> >> >> >> folks
> >> > who
> >> >> >> didn't do it.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> RD (The Sandman)
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> War is absolute hell.....but to give in
> >> >> >> to terrorism is much, much worse
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

 

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"robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:SOidnRPBn8s1BzXanZ2dnUVZ_t2dnZ2d@comcast.com...
> Problem has gotten too big here.

Really? You can't arrest people?

> Something else needs to be done.

Won't change unless you do something that actually works.


> "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:Xns9A3B60D009EB4Sandman@216.196.97.136...
>> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in
>> news:_fCdnbVdD46S8zXanZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@comcast.com:
>>
>> > Hint: we want to stop those felonies.
>>
>> Then arrest those committing them. Even you should be bright enough to
>> figure that out.
>>
>> > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
>> > news:QDPpj.91281$K27.88919@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
>> >> robw wrote:
>> >> > Let's see, I sell 120 guns to illegal buyers.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> And each instance of you doing so is a felony.
>> >>
>> >> > Now I can only sell one.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> No, now you can only buy one from a FFL dealer.
>> >>
>> >> > You investing?????
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in
>> >> > message news:s3Npj.84358$ds2.38614@trnddc05...
>> >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:v-SdnYIoNbMQBzranZ2dnUVZ_o-dnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> >> >>> Do the math and get back to me.
>> >> >> Ok, You engage in 120 federal felonies every month. The state
>> >> >> passes a
>> >> > minor
>> >> >> law and suddenly you change your ways, seek God, and now only
>> >> >> commit 2 federal felonies each month.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Right, and pigs fly.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> RD (The Sandman)
>>
>> War is absolute hell.....but to give in
>> to terrorism is much, much worse
>
>