GUN NUT MASSACRES 5 WOMEN IN CHICAGO CLOTHING STORE

[Scout]

"robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Wow, your kids know their Dad's a quitter?

If that means I'm not stupid enough to continue to try something that
doesn't work, then I suppose I am. On the other hand the definition of
insanity is continueing to try something expecting a different result, but
at leest you're not a quitter. Frankly I would rather be seen by my children
as a quitter than as insane.


> "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message
> news:8D4qj.17847$qI.13625@trnddc03...
>>
>> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:5IOdna8ugato9TXanZ2dnUVZ_rudnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> > It's never been tried in Philly.
>>
>> Right, and since it's never been tried in a particular place means we can
>> expect different results.
>>
>> Wow. Does this mean cold fusion works, we just have to figure out the
>> location on the planet were it does?
>>
>> Sorry, but there is nothing special about Philly that would reasonably
>> result in different results.
>>
>>
>
>

 

[robw]

So a city of millions would not have more of everything you could name than
a suburban community of couple hundred thou???????




"Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message
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>
> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:b6OdnY4jnNG2fDXanZ2dnUVZ_s-dnZ2d@comcast.com...
> > By shear numbers........yes.
>
> Proof.
>
>
> > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
> > news:d54qj.60982$k27.13050@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
> >> robw wrote:
> >> > And the felon finds these recruits where?
> >> >
> >> > He already has people working for him.
> >> >
> >> > It might not be easy to find that many more people that can legally
buy
> >> > guns.
> >> >
> >> > It;s the inner city, not the burbs.
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> Are you saying that the inner city is full of criminals?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:JvPpj.91276$K27.38256@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
> >> >> robw wrote:
> >> >>> The one gun question.....
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Let's see..... I'm a legal buyer who sells the guns to criminals.
> >> >>>
> >> >> Hypothesis accepted. However, what you're describing is NOT a
"straw"
> >> >> sale/purchase.
> >> >>
> >> >>> Thugs, as you all so "with it" morons like to refer it to.
> >> >>>
> >> >> Does it make you feel superior to denigrate others?
> >> >>
> >> >> Why do you feel the need to play the insult card? Because I'm
> >> >> questioning your preconceptions?
> >> >>
> >> >>> If I'm buying 30 guns a month and selling them at 30 bucks
[ profit ]
> >> > I'm making 900
> >> >>> bucks a month.
> >> >>> (you following this?)
> >> >>>
> >> >> Seemingly much better than you are.
> >> >>
> >> >>> If I can only buy one handgun a month my profits kinda go down.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Any questions?
> >> >>>
> >> >> So the felon working the straw-purchase scheme recruits more people
to
> >> >> buy guns for him, increasing the number of criminals and amount of
> > crime.
> >> >>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
> >> >>> news:s1Mpj.91016$L%6.45696@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
> >> >>>> robw wrote:
> >> >>>>> So what is your definition and you might want to pas it along to
> >> >>>>> Lou
> >> > of
> >> >>>>> Lou's pawn Shop [ Lou's Loans ] who got closed for such sales.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>> Someone gives you the money and you buy a gun for them is a straw
> >> >>>> purchase. Doesn't matter if it's one gun or several.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> In a straw-purchase scheme, a felon, barred by law from buying
guns,
> >> >>>> recruits someone who can legally buy guns. The intermediary fills
> >> >>>> out
> >> >>>> forms, passes a background check, purchases the guns, then gives
> >> >>>> them
> >> > to
> >> >>>> the felon, who uses them to commit crimes or illegally resells
them
> > for
> >> >>>> a big profit.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Lou's Loans lost its license because of a multitude of
violations
> > of
> >> >>>> federal gun laws, some of those violations were straw
> >> >>>> sales/purchases--also there were illegal purchases and selling
> > multiple
> >> >>>> guns to a person without notifying the ATF in violation of the
> > Federal
> >> >>>> Multiple Handgun Reporting program.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> How does one gun a month eliminate "straw purchases"?
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
> >> >>>>> news:ToLpj.90999$L%6.70175@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
> >> >>>>>> robw wrote:
> >> >>>>>>> Well, let's see.......
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> If a legal purchaser buys many guns a month and sells them to
> > people
> >> >>> who
> >> >>>>> are
> >> >>>>>>> not legal to own.......vs. that same person only being able to
> >> >>>>>>> buy
> >> > one
> >> >>>>> gun a
> >> >>>>>>> month?
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> That is not, by definition, a straw sale.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Back to the original situation and question, how does 'one gun a
> >> > month'
> >> >>>>>> prevent straw buys?
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
> >> >>>>>>> news:J3Lpj.90990$L%6.70634@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
> >> >>>>>>>> robw wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>> Limit the sale of hand guns to one a month.
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> How exactly does this prevent straw purchases?
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> The final recipient of the gun is not the one buying it from
the
> >> >>>>> dealer.
> >> >>>>>>>> Also, currently there is a Federal Multiple Handgun Reporting
> >> >>> program.
> >> >>>>>>>> Current federal law requires dealers to report to ATF any
> > "multiple
> >> >>>>>>>> sales" of two or more handguns that occur within five
> >> >>>>>>>> consecutive
> >> >>>>>>>> business days.
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> And before you even start, this would not include people with
> >> >>>>>>> collector's
> >> >>>>>>>>> licenses.
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> Is there a current requirement to obtain a "collector's
> >> >>>>>>>> license"?
> >> > Or
> >> >>>>>>>> would this be a new requirement?
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
> >> >>>>>>>>> news:dmKpj.60271$k27.3858@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
> >> >>>>>>>>>> robw wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Eliminating straw buys would be a great start.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>> Straw buys are currently illegal.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>> How do you propose to eliminate them?
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> news:bEJpj.90928$L%6.33472@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> robw wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> If you want a legal carry law in Chicago, knock yourself
> > out.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> If you want to legally own a million guns, so be it.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I just want illegal guns reduced to nothing.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> You?
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> How do you suggest that be accomplished?
> >> >>>
> >> >
> >> >
> >
> >
>
>

 

[Scout]

"robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Ah, so you know more than the previous and current administration, the
> previous and current police chief, and the desires of the good people here
> in Philly??

"we do believe, we do believe, we do believe...."


But you know what? There still isn't a Tinker Bell.


> "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message
> news:cS4qj.49758$K%.19823@trnddc04...
>>
>> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:4fSdnY6OY5cACjXanZ2dnUVZ_judnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> > So you're the kind of person that just accepts the conditions....or are
>> > you
>> > the kind that wants someone else to clean up the mess.
>>
>> You are the sort that can't differentiate between your desires and
> reality.
>> What you fantasize about and what is realistic. There is absolutely
> nothing
>> special about the conditions in Philly that is at all likely to alter the
>> observed results of your "suggestion".
>>
>>
>> > People like you sicken me.
>>
>> Yea, I can see how people rooted in reality really screws up your
> delusional
>> fantasies.
>>
>>
>> > "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> > news:Xns9A3B5EC75BDCFSandman@216.196.97.136...
>> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in
>> >> news:5IOdna8ugato9TXanZ2dnUVZ_rudnZ2d@comcast.com:
>> >>
>> >> > It's never been tried in Philly.
>> >>
>> >> Does gravity act differently in Philly than elsewere?
>> >>
>> >> > But you can relax. Harrisburg won't let Philly institute it's own
> laws
>> >> > and when the western part of the state you're not going to get a
>> >> > statewide law passed.
>> >> >
>> >> > Feel better?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message
>> >> > news:GuOpj.46148$K%.1807@trnddc04...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> >> >> news8mdnbqOMKAfOTranZ2dnUVZ_s-dnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> >> >> > So give us a chance.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> It's already been tried time and time and time again. It has NEVER
>> >> >> worked. So why should I allow you to **** people over to try yet
>> >> >> again. Show me
>> >> > that
>> >> >> you have any reasonable proof of producing a different result.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in
>> >> >> > message news:CcMpj.17266$hF2.4419@trnddc02...
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> >> >> >> newseSdnZYLqrsoGTranZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> >> >> >> > One a month sales would help hinder the supply????
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> We've had that for quite sometime, and oddly enough we have seen
>> >> >> >> no
>> >> >> > decline
>> >> >> >> in the criminal access to illegal guns.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in
>> >> >> >> > message news:Xns9A3A912177DC4Sandman@216.196.97.136...
>> >> >> >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in
>> >> >> >> >> newsbmdnWB7jeED7TranZ2dnUVZ_gadnZ2d@comcast.com:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> > Eliminating straw buys would be a great start.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Yep, and they are already illegal. Now what??
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> >> RD (The Sandman)
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> War is absolute hell.....but to give in
>> >> >> >> >> to terrorism is much, much worse
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> RD (The Sandman)
>> >>
>> >> War is absolute hell.....but to give in
>> >> to terrorism is much, much worse
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

 

[DerekSmalls]

robw wrote:
> I've made my opinions known.

Spooky, eh?

 

[robw]

Down where?


"Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message
news:_S5qj.95919$U12.93582@trnddc06...
>
> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:UcGdnVNIsuvb8DXanZ2dnUVZ_uidnZ2d@comcast.com...
> > And the felon finds these recruits where?
>
> Well, down here they found college students who needed some extra money.
> Though anyone willing to make a little quick easy cash would do.
>
>
> >
> > He already has people working for him.
>
> So much for your claim he can only get 1 a month.
>
> > It might not be easy to find that many more people that can legally buy
> > guns.
>
> Actually a lot of people can legally buy guns.
>
> > It;s the inner city, not the burbs.
>
> Ah, so your contention is that the inner city is filled with nothing but
> criminals?
>
> I can see why you would want to restict law abiding citizens any access to
> guns.
>
>
> > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
> > news:JvPpj.91276$K27.38256@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
> >> robw wrote:
> >> > The one gun question.....
> >> >
> >> > Let's see..... I'm a legal buyer who sells the guns to criminals.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Hypothesis accepted. However, what you're describing is NOT a "straw"
> >> sale/purchase.
> >>
> >> > Thugs, as you all so "with it" morons like to refer it to.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Does it make you feel superior to denigrate others?
> >>
> >> Why do you feel the need to play the insult card? Because I'm
> >> questioning your preconceptions?
> >>
> >> > If I'm buying 30 guns a month and selling them at 30 bucks [ profit ]
> > I'm making 900
> >> > bucks a month.
> >> > (you following this?)
> >> >
> >>
> >> Seemingly much better than you are.
> >>
> >> > If I can only buy one handgun a month my profits kinda go down.
> >> >
> >> > Any questions?
> >> >
> >>
> >> So the felon working the straw-purchase scheme recruits more people to
> >> buy guns for him, increasing the number of criminals and amount of
crime.
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:s1Mpj.91016$L%6.45696@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
> >> >> robw wrote:
> >> >>> So what is your definition and you might want to pas it along to
Lou
> > of
> >> >>> Lou's pawn Shop [ Lou's Loans ] who got closed for such sales.
> >> >>>
> >> >> Someone gives you the money and you buy a gun for them is a straw
> >> >> purchase. Doesn't matter if it's one gun or several.
> >> >>
> >> >> In a straw-purchase scheme, a felon, barred by law from buying guns,
> >> >> recruits someone who can legally buy guns. The intermediary fills
out
> >> >> forms, passes a background check, purchases the guns, then gives
them
> > to
> >> >> the felon, who uses them to commit crimes or illegally resells them
> >> >> for
> >> >> a big profit.
> >> >>
> >> >> Lou's Loans lost its license because of a multitude of violations
of
> >> >> federal gun laws, some of those violations were straw
> >> >> sales/purchases--also there were illegal purchases and selling
> >> >> multiple
> >> >> guns to a person without notifying the ATF in violation of the
Federal
> >> >> Multiple Handgun Reporting program.
> >> >>
> >> >> How does one gun a month eliminate "straw purchases"?
> >> >>
> >> >>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
> >> >>> news:ToLpj.90999$L%6.70175@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
> >> >>>> robw wrote:
> >> >>>>> Well, let's see.......
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> If a legal purchaser buys many guns a month and sells them to
> >> >>>>> people
> >> > who
> >> >>> are
> >> >>>>> not legal to own.......vs. that same person only being able to
buy
> > one
> >> >>> gun a
> >> >>>>> month?
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>> That is not, by definition, a straw sale.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Back to the original situation and question, how does 'one gun a
> > month'
> >> >>>> prevent straw buys?
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
> >> >>>>> news:J3Lpj.90990$L%6.70634@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
> >> >>>>>> robw wrote:
> >> >>>>>>> Limit the sale of hand guns to one a month.
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> How exactly does this prevent straw purchases?
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> The final recipient of the gun is not the one buying it from the
> >> >>> dealer.
> >> >>>>>> Also, currently there is a Federal Multiple Handgun Reporting
> >> > program.
> >> >>>>>> Current federal law requires dealers to report to ATF any
> >> >>>>>> "multiple
> >> >>>>>> sales" of two or more handguns that occur within five
consecutive
> >> >>>>>> business days.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> And before you even start, this would not include people with
> >> >>>>> collector's
> >> >>>>>>> licenses.
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Is there a current requirement to obtain a "collector's
license"?
> > Or
> >> >>>>>> would this be a new requirement?
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
> >> >>>>>>> news:dmKpj.60271$k27.3858@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
> >> >>>>>>>> robw wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>> Eliminating straw buys would be a great start.
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> Straw buys are currently illegal.
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> How do you propose to eliminate them?
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
> >> >>>>>>>>> news:bEJpj.90928$L%6.33472@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
> >> >>>>>>>>>> robw wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> If you want a legal carry law in Chicago, knock yourself
out.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> If you want to legally own a million guns, so be it.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> I just want illegal guns reduced to nothing.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> You?
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>> How do you suggest that be accomplished?
> >> >>>
> >> >
> >> >
> >
> >
>
>

 

[Scout]

"robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> And this new source would be?????

Asked and answered.

I will note your poor memory.


> "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message
> news:2T4qj.10986$M71.4911@trnddc08...
>>
>> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:l8OdnU3qlZ2u9DXanZ2dnUVZ_hidnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> > How could they illegally buy 59 more when they are the source of the
>> > illegal
>> > guns????
>>
>> They are a source, not the only source, and like any business when one
>> supply dries up or becomes limited they seek new and additional
>> suppliers.
>>
>> Seems you are stupidier than criminals.
>>
>>
>> > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message
>> > news:nvOpj.17295$hF2.11680@trnddc02...
>> >>
>> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> >> news:NMqdnaB84qs2OTranZ2dnUVZ_oqdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> >> > Legal to buy 60 guns in a month.
>> >> > Legal to buy 1.
>> >>
>> >> and can illegally buy the other 59. After all, you are already engaged
> in
>> >> federal felonies. What difference does it make if you continue to
>> >> break
>> > the
>> >> law?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message
>> >> > news:13Mpj.2656$xE.1245@trnddc01...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> >> >> newsbmdnWB7jeED7TranZ2dnUVZ_gadnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> >> >> > Eliminating straw buys would be a great start.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> You do realize that straw sales are ALREADY illegal. Right?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> So how much more illegal do you want them to be?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
>> >> >> > news:bEJpj.90928$L%6.33472@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
>> >> >> >> robw wrote:
>> >> >> >> > If you want a legal carry law in Chicago, knock yourself out.
>> >> >> >> > If you want to legally own a million guns, so be it.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > I just want illegal guns reduced to nothing.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > You?
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> How do you suggest that be accomplished?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

 

[Scout]

"robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:JtmdnYFeDas7fTXanZ2dnUVZ_s6dnZ2d@comcast.com...
> That's your choice.
>
> You're not changing my mind or the minds of many of us here in hilly.

Well, as least you aren't alone in your stupidity.


> "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message
> news:FT4qj.95910$U12.11925@trnddc06...
>>
>> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:v4udnZNqJ5bT9DXanZ2dnUVZ_jCdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> > Just read what I wrote and believe it.
>>
>> I read it, I don't believe it, and facts have no impact on your opinions.
>>
>>
>> > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message
>> > news:KvOpj.84534$U12.18994@trnddc06...
>> >>
>> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> >> news:vN6dnYEYFvsjOTranZ2dnUVZ_jKdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> >> > You;re not going to change my mind.
>> >>
>> >> Well, first you would have to have a mind for me to be able to change
> it.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message
>> >> > news:R1Mpj.75331$U12.39351@trnddc06...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:cqadnWalQ8-MxDranZ2dnUVZ_tqdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> >> >> > If you want a legal carry law in Chicago, knock yourself out.
>> >> >> > If you want to legally own a million guns, so be it.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I just want illegal guns reduced to nothing.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> IOW, you want an impossible fantasy.....mean while back in
>> > reality......
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > "KerryHatch" <OingoBoingo@Bass.gov.> wrote in message
>> >> >> > news:47a75654$0$25029$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>> >> >> >> RD (The Sandman) wrote:
>> >> >> >> > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in
>> >> >> >> > news:9-idnZPN-aPEHjvanZ2dnUVZ_sadnZ2d@comcast.com:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>I'm not opposed to guns.
>> >> >> >> >>I'm opposed to illegal guns.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > So are we opposed to illegal possession of guns. Do you get
>> >> >> >> > it
>> > now,
>> >> >> >> > asshole?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> "robw" forgets that ONLY criminals can have guns in or near
>> >> >> >> Chicago.
>> >> >> >> (legality means nothing)
>> >> >> >> "robw" forgets that ONLY criminals shoot unarmed people.
>> >> >> >> "robw" forgets that ONLY the free people are denied a method to
>> > defend
>> >> >> >> thenselvs in Chicago, as ordered by the LIBERAL government that
>> >> >> >> inacted
>> >> >> >> stump stupid laws that cured nothing.
>> >> >> >> "robw" forgets that he is dancing in the blood of other's demise
> to
>> >> >> >> promote his stupidity.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

 

[robw]

One a month.

Not changing my mind.


"Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message
news:lV5qj.90960$ds2.83324@trnddc05...
>
> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
> newsvydndgBD8p-BDXanZ2dnUVZ_j-dnZ2d@comcast.com...
> > Being sold to them by legal, but unscrupulous sellers.
>
> If they are selling them to criminals, then they aren't legal sellers.
>
> > "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message
> > news:Xns9A3B60FAEA9D6Sandman@216.196.97.136...
> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in
> >> news:i-OdnXUcVI9v8DXanZ2dnUVZ_uWdnZ2d@comcast.com:
> >>
> >> > I advocate a law that would significantly reduce the number of guns
> >> > being sold to people who can not buy them legally themselves.
> >>
> >> If they cannot legally buy a gun themselves then it makes no difference
> >> if they try to buy one gun or fifty.
> >>
> >> > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:GBPpj.91279$K27.52336@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
> >> >> robw wrote:
> >> >> > Do the math and get back to me.
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Math? What math?
> >> >>
> >> >> Straw sales are illegal behavior, you advocate a law that doesn't
> >> >> address 'straw' sales/purchases.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
> >> >> > news:zfMpj.91023$L%6.28591@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
> >> >> >> robw wrote:
> >> >> >>> If I legally buy 60 guns a month and sell them to
> >> >> >>> criminals.....and
> >> > now
> >> >> > I
> >> >> >>> can only buy one gun a month...
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> Which is not "straw" sales. It is a violation of federal
> >> >> >> law--dealing
> >> > in
> >> >> >> firearms without a license though and as such is already illegal.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> And if those 60 guns are handguns, then those sales also get
> >> >> >> reported
> >> > to
> >> >> >> the ATF in accordance with current federal law.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>> Ya' wanna buy stock in my company?????
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> I have no desire to participate in your conspiracy to violate
> >> >> >> federal firearms laws.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
> >> >> >>> news:_wLpj.91004$L%6.53375@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
> >> >> >>>> RD (The Sandman) wrote:
> >> >> >>>>> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in news:ZdOdnRpL9
> >> >> >>>>> _P65zranZ2dnUVZ_qydnZ2d@comcast.com:
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>> Limit the sale of hand guns to one a month.
> >> >> >>>>> And will eliminate straw purchases....how????
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>> It won't.
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> If you read his reply to me when I asked nearly the identical
> >> > question,
> >> >> >>>> he states "If a legal purchaser buys many guns a month and
sells
> >> >> >>>> them
> >> >> > to
> >> >> >>>> people who are not legal to own.......vs. that same person only
> >> >> >>>> being able to buy one gun a month?"
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> What he describes is not "straw sales" nor "straw buys".
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> RD (The Sandman)
> >>
> >> War is absolute hell.....but to give in
> >> to terrorism is much, much worse
> >
> >
>
>

 

[robw]

I want the murders to stop.

Any means necessary.


"Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message
news:FX5qj.90967$ds2.53416@trnddc05...
>
> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:VsOdnf3effLoBzXanZ2dnUVZ_rednZ2d@comcast.com...
> > The problem in Philly is that things have become to big for straw buys
> > laws
> > to effectively work.
>
> IOW, gun control doesn't effect criminals, so you want MORE of this
> nonsense.
>
>
> >
> > When something doesn't work, you look for alternatives that could work.
>
> Yet, you simply ask for more of the same.
>
>
> > Unless you really like the idea of 400 murders every year.
>
> Hey, I've got an idea. Let's enforce the laws that ALREADY EXIST?
>
> I mean a straw buyer is already committing federal felonies that carry a
> minimum manditory sentence of 10 years, possibly more.
>
> > "Wayne" <mygarbagecan@verizon.net> wrote in message
> > news:jm0qj.17734$qI.14066@trnddc03...
> >>
> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
> >> news:i-OdnXUcVI9v8DXanZ2dnUVZ_uWdnZ2d@comcast.com...
> >> >I advocate a law that would significantly reduce the number of guns
> >> >being
> >> > sold to people who can not buy them legally themselves.
> >> >
> >> I don't follow your statement. Are you talking about passing a law to
> >> prevent "straw buyer" sales....while there currently is a law making
> > "straw
> >> buyer" sales illegal?
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

 

[DerekSmalls]

robw wrote:

> Seems you avoided the question.
>
> One last chance, gun or knife?

Against you?

My wife could take you out with a ball of softened cookie dough.

 

[robw]

You're right.

Still not changing my mind and not trying to change yours.

feel better?


"Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
news:8Y5qj.76729$N67.19522@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
> robw wrote:
> > I've "advocated" nothing.
> >
> > I'm telling you what I believe.
> >
> >
>
> I believe you're confused. You started your sentence "I advocate..."
>
>
>
>
> > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
> > news:ed4qj.60991$k27.43841@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
> >> robw wrote:
> >>> I advocate a law that would significantly reduce the number of guns
> > being
> >>> sold to people who can not buy them legally themselves.
> >>>
> >>>
> >> OK, let's examine what you just advocated:
> >>
> >> If someone cannot legally buy a gun for themselves then it's illegal to
> >> sell them one. So now you want to make another law to address the
> >> already illegal activity of selling guns to prohibited persons.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
> >>> news:GBPpj.91279$K27.52336@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
> >>>> robw wrote:
> >>>>> Do the math and get back to me.
> >>>>>
> >>>> Math? What math?
> >>>>
> >>>> Straw sales are illegal behavior, you advocate a law that doesn't
> >>>> address 'straw' sales/purchases.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
> >>>>> news:zfMpj.91023$L%6.28591@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
> >>>>>> robw wrote:
> >>>>>>> If I legally buy 60 guns a month and sell them to
criminals.....and
> >>> now
> >>>>> I
> >>>>>>> can only buy one gun a month...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> Which is not "straw" sales. It is a violation of federal
law--dealing
> >>> in
> >>>>>> firearms without a license though and as such is already illegal.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> And if those 60 guns are handguns, then those sales also get
reported
> >>> to
> >>>>>> the ATF in accordance with current federal law.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Ya' wanna buy stock in my company?????
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> I have no desire to participate in your conspiracy to violate
federal
> >>>>>> firearms laws.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
> >>>>>>> news:_wLpj.91004$L%6.53375@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
> >>>>>>>> RD (The Sandman) wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in news:ZdOdnRpL9
> >>>>>>>>> _P65zranZ2dnUVZ_qydnZ2d@comcast.com:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Limit the sale of hand guns to one a month.
> >>>>>>>>> And will eliminate straw purchases....how????
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> It won't.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> If you read his reply to me when I asked nearly the identical
> >>> question,
> >>>>>>>> he states "If a legal purchaser buys many guns a month and sells
> > them
> >>>>> to
> >>>>>>>> people who are not legal to own.......vs. that same person only
> > being
> >>>>>>>> able to buy one gun a month?"
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> What he describes is not "straw sales" nor "straw buys".
> >>>
> >
> >

 

[Scout]

"robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:GfednY0KmeR9fTXanZ2dnUVZ_hWdnZ2d@comcast.com...
> If he shot his mouth off?
>
> There's bars in South Philly where he'd be toast.
>
> Unless he was Irish.

and you wonder why you have crime problems in Philly........


> "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message
> news:iU4qj.90487$ds2.71294@trnddc05...
>>
>> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:dYudnQ-4FdVF9DXanZ2dnUVZ_hCdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> > If you have that name in Philly you'd better be Irish.
>>
>> Why? Are you suggesting that people would harm him because of his name?
>>
>>
>>
>> > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message
>> > news:wyOpj.84694$U12.61095@trnddc06...
>> >>
>> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> >> news:V-6dnRSXG-NAOTranZ2dnUVZ_uednZ2d@comcast.com...
>> >> > And you're named Kerry.
>> >> >
>> >> > Folks hoping for a girl?
>> >>
>> >> And you are still a dumb ****
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
> http://www.babynamenetwork.com/baby_names/detail.cfm?name=Kerry&gender=Male
>> >> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Kerry
>> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerry_(name)
>> >> http://www.babiesonline.com/babynames/index.asp?name=Kerry
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > "KerryHatch" <OingoBoingo@Bass.gov.> wrote in message
>> >> > news:47a78996$0$25055$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>> >> >> robw, the top posting retard wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Not what you inferred before there.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I've always inferred that you were a retard.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "KerryHatch" <OingoBoingo@Bass.gov.> wrote in message
>> >> >> > news:47a77fd7$0$25048$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>robw wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>>My right was taken away.....when?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>Your right to maintain a brain,, the day after your birth!
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

 

[robw]

A question, if you will.

How do handle adversity?

What do you do?


"Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message
news:mY5qj.90969$ds2.74365@trnddc05...
>
> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:HpSdne2gTan1fDXanZ2dnUVZ_uKdnZ2d@comcast.com...
> > I've "advocated" nothing.
> >
> > I'm telling you what I believe.
>
> Does Peter Pan figure into what you believe as well?
>
>
>
>
> > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
> > news:ed4qj.60991$k27.43841@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
> >> robw wrote:
> >> > I advocate a law that would significantly reduce the number of guns
> > being
> >> > sold to people who can not buy them legally themselves.
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> OK, let's examine what you just advocated:
> >>
> >> If someone cannot legally buy a gun for themselves then it's illegal to
> >> sell them one. So now you want to make another law to address the
> >> already illegal activity of selling guns to prohibited persons.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:GBPpj.91279$K27.52336@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
> >> >> robw wrote:
> >> >>> Do the math and get back to me.
> >> >>>
> >> >> Math? What math?
> >> >>
> >> >> Straw sales are illegal behavior, you advocate a law that doesn't
> >> >> address 'straw' sales/purchases.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
> >> >>> news:zfMpj.91023$L%6.28591@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
> >> >>>> robw wrote:
> >> >>>>> If I legally buy 60 guns a month and sell them to
criminals.....and
> >> > now
> >> >>> I
> >> >>>>> can only buy one gun a month...
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>> Which is not "straw" sales. It is a violation of federal
> >> >>>> law--dealing
> >> > in
> >> >>>> firearms without a license though and as such is already illegal.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> And if those 60 guns are handguns, then those sales also get
> >> >>>> reported
> >> > to
> >> >>>> the ATF in accordance with current federal law.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>> Ya' wanna buy stock in my company?????
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>> I have no desire to participate in your conspiracy to violate
> >> >>>> federal
> >> >>>> firearms laws.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
> >> >>>>> news:_wLpj.91004$L%6.53375@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
> >> >>>>>> RD (The Sandman) wrote:
> >> >>>>>>> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in news:ZdOdnRpL9
> >> >>>>>>> _P65zranZ2dnUVZ_qydnZ2d@comcast.com:
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> Limit the sale of hand guns to one a month.
> >> >>>>>>> And will eliminate straw purchases....how????
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> It won't.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> If you read his reply to me when I asked nearly the identical
> >> > question,
> >> >>>>>> he states "If a legal purchaser buys many guns a month and sells
> > them
> >> >>> to
> >> >>>>>> people who are not legal to own.......vs. that same person only
> > being
> >> >>>>>> able to buy one gun a month?"
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> What he describes is not "straw sales" nor "straw buys".
> >> >>>
> >> >
> >> >
> >
> >
>
>

 

[Magus]

robw wrote:
> Breaking the laws is generally the first sign.
>

I'm not convinced the inner city is, by shear numbers, full of criminals.

I'm convinced that you believe the people in the inner city are
criminals though.


>
> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
> newsR5qj.76724$N67.20198@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
>> robw wrote:
>>> By shear numbers........yes.
>>>
>> What makes them criminals?
>>
>>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
>>> news:d54qj.60982$k27.13050@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
>>>> robw wrote:
>>>>> And the felon finds these recruits where?
>>>>>
>>>>> He already has people working for him.
>>>>>
>>>>> It might not be easy to find that many more people that can legally
> buy
>>>>> guns.
>>>>>
>>>>> It;s the inner city, not the burbs.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Are you saying that the inner city is full of criminals?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:JvPpj.91276$K27.38256@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
>>>>>> robw wrote:
>>>>>>> The one gun question.....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Let's see..... I'm a legal buyer who sells the guns to criminals.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hypothesis accepted. However, what you're describing is NOT a "straw"
>>>>>> sale/purchase.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thugs, as you all so "with it" morons like to refer it to.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does it make you feel superior to denigrate others?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why do you feel the need to play the insult card? Because I'm
>>>>>> questioning your preconceptions?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If I'm buying 30 guns a month and selling them at 30 bucks
> [ profit ]
>>>>> I'm making 900
>>>>>>> bucks a month.
>>>>>>> (you following this?)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Seemingly much better than you are.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If I can only buy one handgun a month my profits kinda go down.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any questions?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> So the felon working the straw-purchase scheme recruits more people
> to
>>>>>> buy guns for him, increasing the number of criminals and amount of
>>> crime.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:s1Mpj.91016$L%6.45696@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
>>>>>>>> robw wrote:
>>>>>>>>> So what is your definition and you might want to pas it along to
> Lou
>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> Lou's pawn Shop [ Lou's Loans ] who got closed for such sales.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Someone gives you the money and you buy a gun for them is a straw
>>>>>>>> purchase. Doesn't matter if it's one gun or several.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In a straw-purchase scheme, a felon, barred by law from buying
> guns,
>>>>>>>> recruits someone who can legally buy guns. The intermediary fills
> out
>>>>>>>> forms, passes a background check, purchases the guns, then gives
> them
>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> the felon, who uses them to commit crimes or illegally resells them
>>> for
>>>>>>>> a big profit.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Lou's Loans lost its license because of a multitude of violations
>>> of
>>>>>>>> federal gun laws, some of those violations were straw
>>>>>>>> sales/purchases--also there were illegal purchases and selling
>>> multiple
>>>>>>>> guns to a person without notifying the ATF in violation of the
>>> Federal
>>>>>>>> Multiple Handgun Reporting program.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How does one gun a month eliminate "straw purchases"?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:ToLpj.90999$L%6.70175@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
>>>>>>>>>> robw wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Well, let's see.......
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If a legal purchaser buys many guns a month and sells them to
>>> people
>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>> not legal to own.......vs. that same person only being able to
> buy
>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>> gun a
>>>>>>>>>>> month?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That is not, by definition, a straw sale.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Back to the original situation and question, how does 'one gun a
>>>>> month'
>>>>>>>>>> prevent straw buys?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:J3Lpj.90990$L%6.70634@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
>>>>>>>>>>>> robw wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Limit the sale of hand guns to one a month.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> How exactly does this prevent straw purchases?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The final recipient of the gun is not the one buying it from
> the
>>>>>>>>> dealer.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, currently there is a Federal Multiple Handgun Reporting
>>>>>>> program.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Current federal law requires dealers to report to ATF any
>>> "multiple
>>>>>>>>>>>> sales" of two or more handguns that occur within five
> consecutive
>>>>>>>>>>>> business days.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> And before you even start, this would not include people with
>>>>>>>>>>> collector's
>>>>>>>>>>>>> licenses.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there a current requirement to obtain a "collector's
> license"?
>>>>> Or
>>>>>>>>>>>> would this be a new requirement?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:dmKpj.60271$k27.3858@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> robw wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Eliminating straw buys would be a great start.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Straw buys are currently illegal.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How do you propose to eliminate them?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:bEJpj.90928$L%6.33472@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> robw wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you want a legal carry law in Chicago, knock yourself
>>> out.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you want to legally own a million guns, so be it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just want illegal guns reduced to nothing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How do you suggest that be accomplished?
>>>
>
>

 

[robw]

Really, if someone is selling thirty guns a month to cri minals and now they
can only buy one what does that do for their business.

I'm a retail trainer. You've apparently found a way to overcome supply and
demand by actually offering less product at the same margins.

You could revolutionize our industry!

We await your enlightenment.




"Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message
news:NU5qj.30674$xE.18010@trnddc01...
>
> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:i-OdnXUcVI9v8DXanZ2dnUVZ_uWdnZ2d@comcast.com...
> >I advocate a law that would significantly reduce the number of guns being
> > sold to people who can not buy them legally themselves.
>
> Sorry, but your one gun a month law doesn't change the number that can be
> illegally sold to prohibited people in the least.
>
> Your stupidity is noted.
>
> > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
> > news:GBPpj.91279$K27.52336@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
> >> robw wrote:
> >> > Do the math and get back to me.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Math? What math?
> >>
> >> Straw sales are illegal behavior, you advocate a law that doesn't
> >> address 'straw' sales/purchases.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:zfMpj.91023$L%6.28591@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
> >> >> robw wrote:
> >> >>> If I legally buy 60 guns a month and sell them to criminals.....and
> > now
> >> > I
> >> >>> can only buy one gun a month...
> >> >>>
> >> >> Which is not "straw" sales. It is a violation of federal
law--dealing
> > in
> >> >> firearms without a license though and as such is already illegal.
> >> >>
> >> >> And if those 60 guns are handguns, then those sales also get
reported
> > to
> >> >> the ATF in accordance with current federal law.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>> Ya' wanna buy stock in my company?????
> >> >>>
> >> >> I have no desire to participate in your conspiracy to violate
federal
> >> >> firearms laws.
> >> >>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
> >> >>> news:_wLpj.91004$L%6.53375@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
> >> >>>> RD (The Sandman) wrote:
> >> >>>>> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in news:ZdOdnRpL9
> >> >>>>> _P65zranZ2dnUVZ_qydnZ2d@comcast.com:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Limit the sale of hand guns to one a month.
> >> >>>>> And will eliminate straw purchases....how????
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>> It won't.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> If you read his reply to me when I asked nearly the identical
> > question,
> >> >>>> he states "If a legal purchaser buys many guns a month and sells
> >> >>>> them
> >> > to
> >> >>>> people who are not legal to own.......vs. that same person only
> >> >>>> being
> >> >>>> able to buy one gun a month?"
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> What he describes is not "straw sales" nor "straw buys".
> >> >>>
> >> >
> >> >
> >
> >
>
>

 

[robw]

Many of us believe one a month will work.




"Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message
news:1_5qj.49765$K%.32116@trnddc04...
>
> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:SOidnRPBn8s1BzXanZ2dnUVZ_t2dnZ2d@comcast.com...
> > Problem has gotten too big here.
>
> Really? You can't arrest people?
>
> > Something else needs to be done.
>
> Won't change unless you do something that actually works.
>
>
> > "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message
> > news:Xns9A3B60D009EB4Sandman@216.196.97.136...
> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in
> >> news:_fCdnbVdD46S8zXanZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@comcast.com:
> >>
> >> > Hint: we want to stop those felonies.
> >>
> >> Then arrest those committing them. Even you should be bright enough to
> >> figure that out.
> >>
> >> > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:QDPpj.91281$K27.88919@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
> >> >> robw wrote:
> >> >> > Let's see, I sell 120 guns to illegal buyers.
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> And each instance of you doing so is a felony.
> >> >>
> >> >> > Now I can only sell one.
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> No, now you can only buy one from a FFL dealer.
> >> >>
> >> >> > You investing?????
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in
> >> >> > message news:s3Npj.84358$ds2.38614@trnddc05...
> >> >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:v-SdnYIoNbMQBzranZ2dnUVZ_o-dnZ2d@comcast.com...
> >> >> >>> Do the math and get back to me.
> >> >> >> Ok, You engage in 120 federal felonies every month. The state
> >> >> >> passes a
> >> >> > minor
> >> >> >> law and suddenly you change your ways, seek God, and now only
> >> >> >> commit 2 federal felonies each month.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Right, and pigs fly.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> RD (The Sandman)
> >>
> >> War is absolute hell.....but to give in
> >> to terrorism is much, much worse
> >
> >
>
>

 

[robw]

Are you a criminal or an honest and responsible gun owner?




"Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
news:6V5qj.76727$N67.65466@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
> robw wrote:
> > If you don't have a gun to shoot me, you can't shoot me.
> >
>
> But I thought you weren't advocating gun bans--or is your true agenda
> showing through?
>
> >
> > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
> > news:H84qj.60984$k27.17298@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
> >> robw wrote:
> >>> Hint: we want to stop those felonies.
> >>>
> >>>
> >> That's the same thing the people who passed the law creating the
> >> felonies to begin with wanted to do--stop a behavior.
> >>
> >> You're not going to change a behavior pattern by making something that
> >> already illegal even illegaler.
> >>
> >>
> >>

 

[Magus]

robw wrote:
> You're right.
>
> Still not changing my mind and not trying to change yours.
>

Ah, but do you actually know what my position is? Specially since I
haven't advocated any position, all I've done is try to educate you with
some factual information.

> feel better?
>
>
> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
> news:8Y5qj.76729$N67.19522@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
>> robw wrote:
>>> I've "advocated" nothing.
>>>
>>> I'm telling you what I believe.
>>>
>>>
>> I believe you're confused. You started your sentence "I advocate..."
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
>>> news:ed4qj.60991$k27.43841@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
>>>> robw wrote:
>>>>> I advocate a law that would significantly reduce the number of guns
>>> being
>>>>> sold to people who can not buy them legally themselves.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> OK, let's examine what you just advocated:
>>>>
>>>> If someone cannot legally buy a gun for themselves then it's illegal to
>>>> sell them one. So now you want to make another law to address the
>>>> already illegal activity of selling guns to prohibited persons.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:GBPpj.91279$K27.52336@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
>>>>>> robw wrote:
>>>>>>> Do the math and get back to me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Math? What math?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Straw sales are illegal behavior, you advocate a law that doesn't
>>>>>> address 'straw' sales/purchases.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:zfMpj.91023$L%6.28591@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
>>>>>>>> robw wrote:
>>>>>>>>> If I legally buy 60 guns a month and sell them to
> criminals.....and
>>>>> now
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> can only buy one gun a month...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Which is not "straw" sales. It is a violation of federal
> law--dealing
>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> firearms without a license though and as such is already illegal.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And if those 60 guns are handguns, then those sales also get
> reported
>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> the ATF in accordance with current federal law.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ya' wanna buy stock in my company?????
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have no desire to participate in your conspiracy to violate
> federal
>>>>>>>> firearms laws.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:_wLpj.91004$L%6.53375@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
>>>>>>>>>> RD (The Sandman) wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in news:ZdOdnRpL9
>>>>>>>>>>> _P65zranZ2dnUVZ_qydnZ2d@comcast.com:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Limit the sale of hand guns to one a month.
>>>>>>>>>>> And will eliminate straw purchases....how????
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It won't.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If you read his reply to me when I asked nearly the identical
>>>>> question,
>>>>>>>>>> he states "If a legal purchaser buys many guns a month and sells
>>> them
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> people who are not legal to own.......vs. that same person only
>>> being
>>>>>>>>>> able to buy one gun a month?"
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What he describes is not "straw sales" nor "straw buys".
>>>
>
>

 

[robw]

Are you a criminal or an honest, responsible gun owner.

And I back down from nothing.

You can take that to your pillow, Cuz.


"Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message
news:n_5qj.20069$Ou1.4046@trnddc07...
>
> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:7ZmdnXJByKFdfDXanZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@comcast.com...
> > If you don't have a gun to shoot me, you can't shoot me.
>
> Evasion noted.
>
> > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
> > news:H84qj.60984$k27.17298@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
> >> robw wrote:
> >> > Hint: we want to stop those felonies.
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> That's the same thing the people who passed the law creating the
> >> felonies to begin with wanted to do--stop a behavior.
> >>
> >> You're not going to change a behavior pattern by making something that
> >> already illegal even illegaler.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:QDPpj.91281$K27.88919@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
> >> >> robw wrote:
> >> >>> Let's see, I sell 120 guns to illegal buyers.
> >> >>>
> >> >> And each instance of you doing so is a felony.
> >> >>
> >> >>> Now I can only sell one.
> >> >>>
> >> >> No, now you can only buy one from a FFL dealer.
> >> >>
> >> >>> You investing?????
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in
message
> >> >>> news:s3Npj.84358$ds2.38614@trnddc05...
> >> >>>> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
> >> >>>> news:v-SdnYIoNbMQBzranZ2dnUVZ_o-dnZ2d@comcast.com...
> >> >>>>> Do the math and get back to me.
> >> >>>> Ok, You engage in 120 federal felonies every month. The state
passes
> > a
> >> >>> minor
> >> >>>> law and suddenly you change your ways, seek God, and now only
commit
> > 2
> >> >>>> federal felonies each month.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Right, and pigs fly.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>
> >> >
> >> >
> >
> >
>
>

 

[robw]

You couldn't live with a one handgun a month law if it could protect your
family???


"Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message
news:5Z5qj.95921$U12.11147@trnddc06...
>
> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:_fCdnbVdD46S8zXanZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@comcast.com...
> > Hint: we want to stop those felonies.
>
> Right, so rather than push to enforce the laws, we'll simply add yet
another
> law they can ignore with the result that nothing will change.....except
for
> the law abiding.
>
>
> > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
> > news:QDPpj.91281$K27.88919@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
> >> robw wrote:
> >> > Let's see, I sell 120 guns to illegal buyers.
> >> >
> >>
> >> And each instance of you doing so is a felony.
> >>
> >> > Now I can only sell one.
> >> >
> >>
> >> No, now you can only buy one from a FFL dealer.
> >>
> >> > You investing?????
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:s3Npj.84358$ds2.38614@trnddc05...
> >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
> >> >> news:v-SdnYIoNbMQBzranZ2dnUVZ_o-dnZ2d@comcast.com...
> >> >>> Do the math and get back to me.
> >> >> Ok, You engage in 120 federal felonies every month. The state passes
a
> >> > minor
> >> >> law and suddenly you change your ways, seek God, and now only commit
2
> >> >> federal felonies each month.
> >> >>
> >> >> Right, and pigs fly.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >
> >
>
>