Horse *******...You've got to be kidding right?

phreakwars

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The 2004 winner:

THE WINNER!!!: [Arkansas Democrat Gazette]:

Two local men were injured when their pickup truck left the road and struck a tree near Cotton Patch on State Highway 38 early Monday. Woodruff County deputy Dovey Snyder reported the accident shortly after midnight Monday. Thurston Poole, 33, of Des Arc, and Billy Ray Wallis, 38, of Little Rock, were returning to Des Arc after a frog gigging trip on an overcast Sunday night when Poole's pickup truck headlights malfunctioned.

The two men concluded that the headlight fuse on the older-model truck had burned out. As a replacement fuse was not available, Wallis noticed that the .22 caliber bullet from his pistol fit perfectly into the fuse box next to the steering-wheel column. Upon inserting the bullet the headlights again began to operate properly, and the two men proceeded on eastbound toward the White River Bridge.

After traveling approximately 20 miles, and just before crossing the river, the bullet apparently overheated, discharged, and struck Poole in the testicles.

The vehicle swerved sharply right, exiting the pavement, and striking a tree. Poole suffered only minor cuts and abrasions from the accident, but will require extensive surgery to repair the damage to his testicles, which will never operate as intended. Wallis sustained a broken clavicle and was treated and released.

"Thank *** we weren't on that bridge when Thurston shot his ***** off, or we might both be dead," stated Wallis. "I've been a trooper for 10 years in this part of the world, but this is a first for me. I can't believe that those two would admit how this accident happened," said Snyder. Upon being notified of the wreck, Lavinia (Poole's wife) asked how many frogs the boys had caught and did anyone get them from the truck???

(Though Poole and Wallis did not die as a result of their misadventure as normally required by Darwin Award Official Rules, it can be argued that Poole DID, in fact, effectively remove himself from the gene pool.)

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The 2004 winner:

THE WINNER!!!: [Arkansas Democrat Gazette]:

Two local men were injured when their pickup truck left the road and struck a tree near Cotton Patch on State Highway 38 early Monday. Woodruff County deputy Dovey Snyder reported the accident shortly after midnight Monday. Thurston Poole, 33, of Des Arc, and Billy Ray Wallis, 38, of Little Rock, were returning to Des Arc after a frog gigging trip on an overcast Sunday night when Poole's pickup truck headlights malfunctioned.

The two men concluded that the headlight fuse on the older-model truck had burned out. As a replacement fuse was not available, Wallis noticed that the .22 caliber bullet from his pistol fit perfectly into the fuse box next to the steering-wheel column. Upon inserting the bullet the headlights again began to operate properly, and the two men proceeded on eastbound toward the White River Bridge.

After traveling approximately 20 miles, and just before crossing the river, the bullet apparently overheated, discharged, and struck Poole in the testicles.

The vehicle swerved sharply right, exiting the pavement, and striking a tree. Poole suffered only minor cuts and abrasions from the accident, but will require extensive surgery to repair the damage to his testicles, which will never operate as intended. Wallis sustained a broken clavicle and was treated and released.

"Thank *** we weren't on that bridge when Thurston shot his ***** off, or we might both be dead," stated Wallis. "I've been a trooper for 10 years in this part of the world, but this is a first for me. I can't believe that those two would admit how this accident happened," said Snyder. Upon being notified of the wreck, Lavinia (Poole's wife) asked how many frogs the boys had caught and did anyone get them from the truck???

(Though Poole and Wallis did not die as a result of their misadventure as normally required by Darwin Award Official Rules, it can be argued that Poole DID, in fact, effectively remove himself from the gene pool.)

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Phreak,

This may make for a funny yarn, but it is fiction. It is impossible for a bullet to build up any momentum without a barrel to propel through. The casing may have exploded, but the projectile would do NOTHING.

This is basic physics, maybe tizz could enlighten us on how wrong I am.

 

Cogito Ergo Sum

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Phreak,
This may make for a funny yarn, but it is fiction. It is impossible for a bullet to build up any momentum without a barrel to propel through. The casing may have exploded, but the projectile would do NOTHING.

This is basic physics, maybe tizz could enlighten us on how wrong I am.
I don't think the story is true, however, I'm not sure where you got this crazy idea about bullets, but not so.

What causes a bullet to disengage from the casing and be propelled is the sudden buildup of pressure withing the casing itself. The barrel of a gun, simply acts as a chamber to provide rotational stability to the expelled round. The initial force of this method of propellent, is highest at the moment of burn and would decrease from that moment forward. The velocity of the bullet at the end of the barrel would be LESS than it was at the moment of expellment from the casing.

Velocities would be represented as:

0 - initial velocity

X - velocity after controlled explosion/discharge from casing

(X-y) - velocity minus coeffecient of friction of barrel/rifeling and then gravity/wind resistance (y would increase over time)

0 - velocity at end

The bullet would very much leave the casing, especially with that casing being held in place by the fuse clamps and probably being braced from behind by the fuse box wall.

Most certainly, the bullet would discharge and would be quite able to penetrate the firewall and strike the man's *****. In fact, the chaotic tumble of the projectile would probably account for the significant trauma he sustained.

Given your statement, you would believe that one could take a bullet, and hold it in your hand while activating the primer from behind, and the bullet would do nothing. DON'T TRY IT.

Then again, next time you light your fireplace, toss a few extra rounds onto the burning log. Given your physics beliefs, the powder will discharge and the bullets will do nothing. :eek: RIGHT. Don't hold your breath.

 
I don't think the story is true, however, I'm not sure where you got this crazy idea about bullets, but not so.
I am an expert on ballistics.

What causes a bullet to disengage from the casing and be propelled is the sudden buildup of pressure withing the casing itself.
True, but only the initial pressure!

The barrel of a gun, simply acts as a chamber to provide rotational stability to the expelled round.
FALSE. The barrel stabalizes and forces all of the energy that would normally be blown into all directions into one vector (out of the muzzle... think of it like this: when the gunpowder starts to burn and the pressure expands within the casing, where does the pressure build? It builds forward and backward and side s and top and bottom. Without a barrel, the pressure equalizes (like a firecracker). The barrell keeps the pressure from equalizing on the sides and back and all of the pressure is expelled through the nuzzle.

0 - initial velocity

X - velocity after controlled explosion/discharge from casing

(X-y) - velocity minus coeffecient of friction of barrel/rifeling and then gravity/wind resistance (y would increase over time)

0 - velocity at end
CES, that was just gibberish.


The bullet would very much leave the casing, especially with that casing being held in place by the fuse clamps and probably being braced from behind by the fuse box wall.
Yes, it would probably leave i\the casing , but at a much diminished velocity and (more importantly momentum)

Most certainly, the bullet would discharge and would be quite able to penetrate the firewall and strike the man's *****. In fact, the chaotic tumble of the projectile would probably account for the significant trauma he sustained.
That is pure fantasy and untrue... I'll do a google search for you.

Given your statement, you would believe that one could take a bullet, and hold it in your hand while activating the primer from behind, and the bullet would do nothing. DON'T TRY IT.
Actually, The bullets would "explode" but the projectiles would do little.

Then again, next time you light your fireplace, toss a few extra rounds onto the burning log. Given your physics beliefs, the powder will discharge and the bullets will do nothing. :eek: RIGHT. Don't hold your breath.
It's not simply my belief, it is a fact.
 
Here you go CES, this is from Wikepedia

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Bore diameter and energy transfer

A firearm, in many ways, is like a piston engine on the power stroke. There is a certain amount of high-pressure gas available, and energy is extracted from it, by making the gas move a piston

 
CES, I got this off of a firefighters website

http://www.ci.corvallis.or.us/index.php?option=com_cvohowdoi&Itemid=0&catid=23

Firefighters experience the surprise of exploding ammunition in a fire situation with some regularity. When bullets and shells are exposed to fire, as long as they are not chambered in a weapon, they are generally not lethal. They do explode and you certainly would not want to be in the immediate vicinity. Most often, however,they will simply explode and not project the pellets or slugs with much force. The safety gear worn by firefighters has been fairly effective in protecting them from injury in this case.Loaded weapons exposed to high heat, however, will "shoot" and semi-automatic weapons will keep shooting, especially if gas-operated as most repeating shotguns and some rifles are. This is a severe hazard for emergency personnel (or anyone in the vicinity). There is a documented instance (which occurred elsewhere, by the way) in which a loaded rifle, mounted on a wall rack, kept discharging during a fire, hitting the command vehicle, causing fire personnel to believe that they were being shot at. They withdrew to a safe location and, consequently, the house was destroyed. Fortunately, no one was hurt in that instance. So, this is another good reason for not keeping loaded weapons in the home.Safe storage of shells and bullets would be best in a fire resistive gun cabinet. Lacking that, there are metal ammunition boxes; however, they create a risk of a larger, more powerful explosion if the components were to detonate due to the confined energy created by the box itself. A personal safe with a fire rating would be the next best, giving security against unwarranted access as well as fire protection.

 

snafu

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The bullet would expel from the cartridge from the force of the explosion. Without a gun barrel it wouldn
 
CES, the more I think about your unfounded retorts the more I am reminded of the old addage:

"Those of you who think you know everything are really annoying to those of us who actually do."

 

Lethalfind

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I had been under the impression that if you threw bullets into a camp fire that projectiles would come out of the fire.

Don't ask how I know this, we have a strange way of entertaining ourselves in Texas...

 
I had been under the impression that if you threw bullets into a camp fire that projectiles would come out of the fire. Don't ask how I know this, we have a strange way of entertaining ourselves in Texas...
Lethal, the casings will explode (depending on the round... a .22 would be about like a small firecracker), but the projectiles will just stay where they were.
 

snafu

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I knew there had to be a song for this horse ****!

http://www.alicecoopershow.co.uk/lyrics/muscle/muscle_of_love.htm

You guys can sing along with me.

Muscle of Love

Aw, who's the queen of the locker room

Who's the cream of the crop

Well Joey took her to the matinee

Said, "***, she wouldn't stop!"

Holy muscle of love

My heart's a muscle

Well, I must have come to that crazy age

Where ev'rything is hot

'Cause I don't know if the things I'm thinking

Are normal thoughts or not

Holy muscle of love

Well, I got a muscle of love

Yeah

Ooh

I read Dad's books like I did before

Now things are crystal clear

Lock the door in the bathroom now

I just can't get caught in here

Holy muscle of love

Well, I got a muscle of love

Holy muscle of love

I got a muscle of love

Holy muscle of love

My heart's a muscle of love

Holy muscle of love

Well, I got a muscle of love

Yeah, yeah, yeah

Must be a gift from above

Yeah, yeah, yeah

(Hallelujah, etc.)

 

Cogito Ergo Sum

New member
CES, the more I think about your unfounded retorts the more I am reminded of the old addage:
"Those of you who think you know everything are really annoying to those of us who actually do."
I'm so overjoyed that I finally found somone who knows everything. Thank you. :rolleyes:

As to this little adventure of bullet physics, Okay, fair enough. However, I never claimed like you, to be a "ballistics expert". I operated off of common sense on this one.

The only type of ballistics expert that I am is the one consistently capable of putting one between your eyes at 600 yards with an accuracy of 0.3 MOA without you even knowing I was there, and those days are over and gratefully so. Enough said.

Nevertheless, I wouldn't want to be around any caliber bullets in a fire. You may help yourself to that adventure! :p

 
I'm so overjoyed that I finally found somone who knows everything. Thank you. :rolleyes:
As to this little adventure of bullet physics, Okay, fair enough. However, I never claimed like you, to be a "ballistics expert". I operated off of common sense on this one.

The only type of ballistics expert that I am is the one consistently capable of putting one between your eyes at 600 yards with an accuracy of 0.3 MOA without you even knowing I was there, and those days are over and gratefully so. Enough said.

Nevertheless, I wouldn't want to be around any caliber bullets in a fire. You may help yourself to that adventure! :p
Thanks, CES.

 
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