It's pretty obvious that we come from different worlds. You buy into the lies and propaganda behind marijuana prohibition, don't cha. Hook line and sinker, they got you pulling along nicely. My "drug habit" is EXACTLY the same thing as the countless millions of worker joes that go home after a hard day of work and drink 2-4 beers. Its about perspective. If they outlawed eating ice cream than I'm sure many people would say "F ck you, I'm eating ice cream anyway".
It is not the same, your breaking the law, and this is my point.
Taken on the whole, I believe pot use is similar to drinking, I honestly do, but we are in a society and in that society we must have rules and guidelines to make our society flourish. Your attirude that your above the law is what I am bringing into question, not the way you break the law.
You see, your an addict, and as an addict, all you can see is your need for the drug that makes you feel good, and so you jumped to conclusions that I am against pot, but I am truly against the mindset that makes up justifications to hold themselves above the law.
Everybody is a druggie. Even you. You filthy drug addict. Test me on that theory, I dare you.
Oh no, not the coffee, sugar, etc......garbage again, wow, how original.
Just to let you know, I am not "hooked" on any substance, I have never put myself or my loved ones in danger of any sort to chase a substance used for altering my state of mind. If you ever went to prison for drug related charges, does that harm your loved ones? Do they pay a price for your chasing drugs?
The last time I even took an asprin was three years ago.
But again, you incorrectly are arguing how your chosen mind altering drug is "similar" to other methods and as such, not so bad, but your ignoring the fact that we are talking about people who use excuses like this to break the law, how they feel their illegal activity "should" not be illegal so they take it on themselves to ignore the law and commit illegal actions.
I can make a very sound arguement for allowing things like robbery and even murder and how it is not "bad" under a certain point of view, but points of view do not matter, reality matters.
The reality is, you view yourself as above the law and you teach that mindset to others. I ask you again, if you had children and your children saw that you feel it is right to ignore laws you do not agree with, what lesson wil your child learn from this? What laws will your child ignore just because they don't like them?
Thats bull . I'm from the streets TJ, I know what was shaking down there. I was getting searched whether I was a good little mouse, or a man about it. I was going to get searched, period. I chose to be a man about it and tell this cop that he was violating my rights by pulling me over on a bull charge.
And being as you know what was going down, you also know the reason, the prevalant drug trade associated by people like you in poor areas like this. You feel pot is harmless, fine, but what about crack and such, do you feel that is harmless? Do you feel all cops should just ignore the fact that most of the time, someone fitting your profile is there in the bad area to buy drugs?
The cops are from the streets too, they know the reality of what happens in these places, and their job is to try and stop it.
And yes, you did get more attention by running your mouth, you already described how everything changed after you busted your gums, don't try to make it sould different now.
Be honest, TJ. If you got pulled over for an improper lane change when you haven't changed lanes once, wouldn't you immediately find that something to question? I do. I was pulled over because I was driving a nice truck, not because I made a traffic violation. The cop started my discord with the initial lie. Do you agree? Do you think that as a citizen, I should remain quite and compliant even though I am being lied too and treated like a criminal when I have committed no crime?
So your claiming to be a perfect, flawless driver who never breaks the traffic lines without your signal flashing right?
Sure, like anyone would believe that, clearly it is possible you did not properly change lanes and that you may not even have noticed you doing it. Driving is 90% instinct and most people have very bad driving habits they don't even know they are doing.
That said, like the discussion we had about the taser use before, the place to argue about things like this is not the side of the road. There is no judge and no way to "fight" the ticket or anything else by getting upset there and then. All you can do is make your situation worse. As even you agreed, a cop needs a very good reason to arrest someone to make the paperwork worth it so you had to give him a reason to take it to the next step.
I said I wouldn't trust the cops if they were investigating me, whether I was guilty or not. Where did I state that I hate all cops? Where did I state that all cops are bad? Where the **** are deriving this from? Point me to one area in this thread in which I "attacked" all cops! I pointed out a fact, a fact that most cops will readily admit to. That they will lie to you and play psyche games with a suspect. Its part of the job. Stop being so thickheaded about this, TJ.
It is not so much what you say but the way you talk, you use bad names to describe police and even claim all police lie on everyone, your so twisted against police you cannot see that most police are decent humans just doing a job that few are willing to do.
Ironically, that is what is wrong with you. You allow elderly, out of touch politicians, to construct your personal moral code.
Those same law makers say murder is wrong, are they wrong about that as well?
Or are you doing what all criminals do and that is justify your own crime to yourself?
Again, all criminals feel their crime is not so bad, how is your stand to defend illegal drug use any different than a robber saying the system is holding him back and he must steal to feed his children? How about the crack seller who says whitie won't give him a good job so all he can do is sell crack, it is not his fault, it is the white mans fault. How about the insuranc fraud criminals, they all claim it is a victimless crime and nobody gets hurt, they say insurance companies are all crooks and deserve to get scammed.
No, your exactly like every other criminal, you cannot see anything wrong with your crime, but point fingers at others crimes and call them bad.
Sometimes it is the law that is immoral.
And there is a process you can follow to get the laws changed, but just "claiming" a law is immoral or bad is not a free pass in society to ignore the law.
What if I claimed that all stop signs were illegal and immoral and I decided that based on my own beliefs, I would never stop at one again. Would that be right? Do I have the right as a member of society to ignore the traffic laws if I "believe" the traffic laws are wrong?
Where do we draw the line on where we can insert personal desires and views to ignore established laws and when we cannot?
Is there a line?
Do you ever see where breaking societies laws is wrong no matter how you feel about the law?
