More ACORN madness

[phreakwars]

The right wing lies and smears have been debunked over and over and over again.. Death Panels, ACORN, treatment for illegals, government funded abortions, and the list goes on and on.

Personally, I have no problem with people disagreeing on issues. But to FLAT OUT LIE to people because you disagree?

To make these wild accusations of Communism, ****, Chicago politics, ACORN, Kenyan, indoctrinating children, etc... It's very easy to see where the lunatic fringe is.

The only upside to this, is I know there are actually SENSIBLE Republicans out there who reject this nonsense and can make a legitimate argument that even I can agree with.

But make no mistake about it... I WELCOME the lunatics in. I often wonder to myself if they REALLY think talking SHlT like that to their own constituents is going to help put them back in power in 2010'

I also wonder why they can't have a FAIR honest debate about anything instead of making up lies to scare the elderly. If my representative is gonna flat out lie to me about something as important as health care, how could I or anybody for that matter, expect them to be honest about anything?

I have no choice but to brush off these people and categorize them into the lunatic fringe.

If 9/11 has taught me anything, it's taught me that the terrorists have won. They made the American people live in fear, fear of even their own President.

But then who can blame them? They were lied to for 8 years by the last guy who said he was only trying to protect them. Put the negro in office, and the guys who didn't vote for him, have their hair turning white.

And sorry, but racism IS a major factor here.

Just like you can say... well, this by itself isn't a problem, but add up this and that and that, it leaves me suspicious, I have to say, sure maybe nobody flat out says anything racist, but add up this and this and that, and it all becomes VERY clear.

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[RoyalOrleans]

How would you explain it RO?

Bender is entitled to his opinion.

 

[timesjoke]

lol, now even Bender is so lost for any way to refute Obama's lies has to resort to discussion blocking racism claims, too bad the liberals like him have used this tactic for so long that it is losing it's power, like the little boy who cried wolf too many times.

Obama is the liar, not the Conservatives, Bender, even George Stephanopoulos, the ABC face boy, has admitted on the air that Obama cannot fulfill all the promises he has made, so that means that Obama knows he is being dishonest.

Take for example how he promises this will be "deficit neutral". Even you have to admit that is impossible. There is not one money cruncher who has ever said this can be "deficit neutral" and yet Obama keeps making that promise, why?

He promises no illegals will get coverage but he refuses to allow specific language and protections to ensure that and had two amendments removed that would have enforced it.......why? Because he knows it "WILL" cover illegals, that is his plan from the beginning.

Lies?

All from Obama.

 

[RoyalOrleans]

Fast forward some... the people in this story, were of course, employed by ACORN to assist people. Faux News sent these couples posing as a pimp and a ***** to several ACORN locations (Trying to set people up if you ask me), all of the locations they went to were a non issue, with the exception of the one in this story. So of course you gotta have your nut jobs trying to put the big "IT'S OBAMA'S FAULT" spin on the whole thing.

Quite boring and desperate really, but enjoy listening to TJ try and put the "OBAMA is corrupt" spin on it all.

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I am sure that just about everyone has heard of Chris Hansen and his little Dateline series "To Catch A Predator". Here we have police and "fake" minors catching perverts through sting operations and no one yells, "Hey thats gotcha journalism" when it clearly is, that's the whole point, right? Hey, we gotcha, loser!

Heaven forbid it be some black ACORN workers getting caught clearly helping these people break the law. Chris Hansen and NBC are basically portrayed as heroes in the battle against *** crimes and child exploitation, but the journalists who "got" ACORN are irresponsible "gotcha journalists".

Just a wee bit hypocritic if you ask me.

I am also surprised how stupid so many black people are...do these women in the video not see the sick irony of selling underage girls into *** slavery when compared to the giant (in their mind) issue of slavery that ALWAYS COMES UP in any discussion involving black people at all.

My ***...I think you would defend concentration camps if Obama was the one setting them up

 

[timesjoke]

My ***...I think you would defend concentration camps if Obama was the one setting them up

Well said, I have been calling Bender the excuse machine for months now because no matter how bad Obama and company behave, Bender offers excuses for it all, when there is no excuse like now, he uses the race card, or calls the people asking good questions radicals while refusing to actually answer the questions, and that was the point, to dodge the questions.

 

[RoyalOrleans]

Well said, I have been calling Bender the excuse machine for months now because no matter how bad Obama and company behave, Bender offers excuses for it all, when there is no excuse like now, he uses the race card, or calls the people asking good questions radicals while refusing to actually answer the questions, and that was the point, to dodge the questions.

You know, folks, I am sick of this argument. We saw it coming, we knew it would get here, and we know it's never going to go away .. but it's tiring nonetheless.

This is nothing new. For decades the left has pulled out the race card whenever things start going the other way. The race card is so deeply ingrained in so many of these people that there is no way in the world they can keep from playing it. The social equation is so profoundly easy with them.

 

[timesjoke]

You know, folks, I am sick of this argument. We saw it coming, we knew it would get here, and we know it's never going to go away .. but it's tiring nonetheless.
This is nothing new. For decades the left has pulled out the race card whenever things start going the other way. The race card is so deeply ingrained in so many of these people that there is no way in the world they can keep from playing it. The social equation is so profoundly easy with them.

But I really think it is backfiring on them, Obama has been playing the race card over and over again for over a year now, always to block discussing things he cannot face.

But now the people are finally starting to get it, Obama and company are upsetting the moderates who are finally starting to see that people are not racists just because they do not agree with Obama.

I hope this is true, because things will finally be forced into real discussion and possible change........the change we were promised from the start.

 

[timesjoke]

Another ACORN office:

Second Video Shows ACORN Officials Helping 'Pimp,' 'Prostitute' in Washington Office - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News - FOXNews.com

"One day after two ACORN officials in Baltimore were fired for offering to help a man and woman posing as a pimp and prostitute to engage in child prostitution and a series of tax crimes, another secretly shot videotape has surfaced that shows the same couple getting similar advice from ACORN officers in Washington."

"The ACORN employee later suggests that O'Keefe, who said he had a budding political career, not linger at the house in case people "put the dots together" and leave him "smeared and tarnished" by his association with his prostitute girlfriend. She should keep her business "low key," the employee continued, saying "You have neighbors and they see stuff. Don't think that people won't get on the telephone and call Fox."

Call FOX?

It is incredible how these people see the only news group that would be interested in a crime is FOX news, is this even more evidence that everyone knows that all the other Networks have stopped reporting the news and are nothing more than extensions of the Democrat party?

 

[RoyalOrleans]

Association of Criminals Organized to Ruin the Nation

 

[timesjoke]

Association of Criminals Organized to Ruin the Nation

So your a racist

 

[phreakwars]

No TJ, it's the truth. Obama has NEVER played the race card, he is above that, NAME ONE TIME HE HAS EVER USED THE RACE CARD, but he does have people who will call it out when it's obvious as ****.

It's just disgusting, simply disgusting.

I love that hypocrisy used as justification saying "Well you guys did this and that and said this and that about Bush".

BULLSHlT, Bush had his chance, had strong support, he blew it by lying to Americans and killing troops.

I wonder, why is this attitude "GOVERNMENT IS BAD" something carried by alot of service men? Is it because you feel like an idiot being a patsy for the government? Government is bad.... unless of course they want you to kill someone for them.

If that's the case, I would have to agree. Ya sign up on the premise that your duty is to serve the country and protect the citizens only to be sent off to kill innocent people who have NOTHING to do with the terrorist attacks on our nation? Yeah I'd hate "BIG GOVERNMENT" too after that boondoggle, it makes you look like a fukking chump. Just like many of the Vietnam soldiers feel. But, of course, on principal, it doesn't matter that you were lied to, the President at the time was a Republican, so no reason to hold him accountable for abuse of government.

Obama on the other hand, can't make one move without someone screaming for his impeachment, calling him a **** socialist Muslim commie child indoctrinating Marxist, blah blah blah...

It's disgusting. As for your claim "people are waking up" ... waking up, or just getting dumber by the days? I vote for the later.

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[hugo]

No TJ, But, of course, on principal, it doesn't matter that you were lied to, the President at the time was a Republican, so no reason to hold him accountable for abuse of government.
Obama on the other hand, can't make one move without someone screaming for his impeachment, calling him a **** socialist Muslim commie child indoctrinating Marxist, blah blah blah...

It's disgusting. As for your claim "people are waking up" ... waking up, or just getting dumber by the days? I vote for the later.

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Bender is right. When GW was growing federal domestic spending at a faster rate than any President since LBJ, running huge deficits in times of prosperity, and expanding the federal government's role in education and healthcare where was the dissent from the vast majority of Republicans? Why did a Republican President and congress massively expand government?

 

[RoyalOrleans]

Bender is right. When GW was growing federal domestic spending at a faster rate than any President since LBJ, running huge deficits in times of prosperity, and expanding the federal government's role in education and healthcare where was the dissent from the vast majority of Republicans? Why did a Republican President and congress massively expand government?

I think I may have posted these naughty little nibbly bits comparing G. Dubya to the Common Era's definition of "Liberal" (Perhaps Progressive Democrat?):

?Bush signed into law a campaign finance reform bill that is an affront to free speech. That's not very conservative.

? Bush, with Teddy Kennedy's help, pushed through the 'No Child Left Behind' act, which instituted unprecedented federal control over our school system. That's not conservative at all.

? Under President Bush, government spending has grown faster and government has grown larger than at any time in our history. An entirely new government agency has been created....The Department of Homeland Security. Growing government by leaps and bounds? Ronald Reagan is spinning in his grave....and that's not very conservative.

? George W. Bush pushed and signed into law the prescription drug program for Medicare. This is billions and billions in new entitlement spending not even his fellow Texan LBJ could dream of. It was one of the single biggest expansions of welfare spending in decades. Not conservative.

? Bush's complete inaction on illegal immigration and his policy of looking the other way on border security and allowing as many illegal aliens in as want to come it not only outrageous, it's not conservative.

Buckley: Bush Not A True Conservative

And use the Common Era's definition of "conservative".

 

[Old Salt]

ACORN had been contracted to help do the 2010 US census. The census bureau just announced that they're breaking ties with ACORN. Probably had a lot to do with the hidden camera footage.

 

[timesjoke]

No TJ, it's the truth. Obama has NEVER played the race card, he is above that, NAME ONE TIME HE HAS EVER USED THE RACE CARD, but he does have people who will call it out when it's obvious as ****.
It's just disgusting, simply disgusting.

I love that hypocrisy used as justification saying "Well you guys did this and that and said this and that about Bush".

BULLSHlT, Bush had his chance, had strong support, he blew it by lying to Americans and killing troops.

I wonder, why is this attitude "GOVERNMENT IS BAD" something carried by alot of service men? Is it because you feel like an idiot being a patsy for the government? Government is bad.... unless of course they want you to kill someone for them.

If that's the case, I would have to agree. Ya sign up on the premise that your duty is to serve the country and protect the citizens only to be sent off to kill innocent people who have NOTHING to do with the terrorist attacks on our nation? Yeah I'd hate "BIG GOVERNMENT" too after that boondoggle, it makes you look like a fukking chump. Just like many of the Vietnam soldiers feel. But, of course, on principal, it doesn't matter that you were lied to, the President at the time was a Republican, so no reason to hold him accountable for abuse of government.

Obama on the other hand, can't make one move without someone screaming for his impeachment, calling him a **** socialist Muslim commie child indoctrinating Marxist, blah blah blah...

It's disgusting. As for your claim "people are waking up" ... waking up, or just getting dumber by the days? I vote for the later.

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Even you said us not agreeing with Obama's vision means we are racist Bender, sure you soft pan it but it is all designed to stop discussion because you can't face the actual questions.

Here again you dip into attacking Bush because you cannot answer the direct questions asked of you. I have put down Bush many times for the things he has done, I took issue all the time, funny that you "NEVER" find fault with anything Obama does. Your just an excuse machine.

 

[ImWithStupid]

No TJ, it's the truth. Obama has NEVER played the race card, he is above that, NAME ONE TIME HE HAS EVER USED THE RACE CARD, but he does have people who will call it out when it's obvious as ****.
It's just disgusting, simply disgusting.

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Sen. Barack Obama's chief strategist conceded that the Democratic presidential candidate was referring to his race when he said Republicans were trying to scare voters by suggesting Obama "doesn't look like all those other presidents on the dollar bills."

Obama Aide Concedes 'Dollar Bill' Remark Referred to His Race - ABC News

You're right. It is simply disgusting that Obama played the race card and has allowed his surrogates to do so over and over since being elected, any time someone disagrees with him or his policy.

 

[timesjoke]

Is that not the point IWS?

Bender knows that Obama has made race comments before and certainly the Cop thing was entirely motivated by race, but my biggest point is the surrogates you mention. Hundreds of times close advisors and even his campaign workers would play the race card and Obama never came out against it.

Like Bender's comment:

Just like you can say... well, this by itself isn't a problem, but add up this and that and that, it leaves me suspicious, I have to say, sure maybe nobody flat out says anything racist, but add up this and this and that, and it all becomes VERY clear.

Obama does not flat out play the race card, but "NOT" putting down the claims of his surrogates is the same thing as saying it himself.

 

[RoyalOrleans]

While we are on the topic, everyone knows that the Asian woman who called a foot-fault on Serena Williams over the weekend is a die-hard racist and probably has a white sheet and hood in the back of her car.

 

[timesjoke]

While we are on the topic, everyone knows that the Asian woman who called a foot-fault on Serena Williams over the weekend is a die-hard racist and probably has a white sheet and hood in the back of her car.

Did Obama come out and call the judges 'stupid' yet?

EDIT

Back on topic, a third video was release this time in new york:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,549903,00.html?loomia_ow=t0:s0:a16:g2:r2:c0.058140:b27703568:z0

The part I love is where the ACORN management says they are going to sue FOX and everyone else, how can you act that way when your busted with your hand in the cookie jar? They know they are dead wrong and yet they are comming out on the attack like they are the victim? Please.

 

[phreakwars]

Someone should have stopped Bush while they had the chance. Acorn has gotten out of control.

ACORN funding ? a Republican philosophy?

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