Ravynlee
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Aww thanks guys, am sincerely touched by all your kind words - and yes you're reactions, it's what I write for.
Stoked you liked. Little moments like that paragraph you highlighted, as rare as they are now as we come to all this violence, is my way of helping you and those like you to endure the ugliness that surrounds your characters. It's not all doom and gloom that way. Small but meaningful. Stoked you liked.
Okay, to answer questions;
Rav and Dave - I will simply say this sis. I wrote it in a way so that A) I didn't write myself into a corner as I did with Ava's passing (which in itself was completely unexpected, even for me) and B) I was leaving it arguably 'open' so that the reader can interpret from it what they will - and when I finish the story completely you'll either go 'yep, I thought so' or 'holy ****, I didn't see that coming' - but either way, as you said sis, yes that was deliberate. I will admit that when I first penned Rav's attack I wasn't as into David as I am now (in RL) but I decided a while back he would be the purpetrator. Without making it too obvious I made subtle hints. He was ****** off with Fox and her love for Chester when he wanted Fox (or what she had that he wanted to claim for himself) and this made his attack feasable (furstration / rage at a dominant female figure in his life - Note he was always grabbing people by the neck - Rav's strangulation - and his total disregard for life regardless who's it was, always bagging out Chester and occasionally Fox in subtle ways). His motivation was always very simple, as he attested in his speech (thanks Frib, glad you liked) Mike was an easy target to cast suspicion on despite the fact David himself was always seen as being party of the criminal element or 'bad side' with Chester's old crew. And most of you probably still wondered if Mike was guilty or not. That was the idea. Misdirection. (I love the movie 'Sword Fish', can't you tell? XD) Mike needed to be tainted in some way to stop him from being too 'clean and untouchable' as a character. It was tongue in cheek that it wasn't Chester who was the one to tarnish him but one of Chester's crew, and those that were stuck in the middle (Rob, Joanna, Sarah) were none-the-wiser. Or... were they?
Hahaha.
Without getting too deep and introspective if you read back through from the very beginning as I tried I did set a few characters up for their final end. That is, Ravyn's gradual decent into madness, David's **** for power, Mike's blindness for revenge, Rob's begrudging loyalty, Rashell's blind faith in her love for her husband, Joanna's emotional tug-of-war, Frib's need to find himself and his niche in the world, all of it is sort of entangled throughout one another. The idea being of course that when I write a part as I did with Chester and David, and ultimately David and Ravyn, I could tie a few loose ends together and leave myself enough room to say, if I needed, 'okay that's solved, they're done, move on to the next one' in essence. I will admit this is ending as I didn't orginally foresee and I'll tell you now as my character's 'inspiration' of sorts, I had actually planned to have me see out a different and far more noble end - but this is working too, and it doesn't stray from the build up from the rest of what's already happened. It wouldn't be that big a shock if she did die, let's say, she was kind of asking for relief from a painful few years of existence in a fashion.
Rob and Frib. Okay, hard one. Rob's always been my dark horse in this. Again, this last update was penned in a way that implied Rob hit him out of necessity, if you want, and as Rob sort of stated as he stole Frib's gun (which harks back to his behaviour at the cemetery a while back, for those of you that remember) that he did what he did to sort of save Frib from getting into any more trouble. If like Sis says you read between the lines you'll see all the way along Rob has been looking out for Frib but like a begrudging older brother. Frib's youth and curiosity etc as hes been caught up in this thing with Mike and Chas has him continually teetering on the edge with Rob in some ways. Frib keeps asking questions, he keeps digging for answers and Rob tells him to drop it, telling him what he has to and keeping him in the dark as much as he can - he doesn't want to see Frib get hurt but it's getting to a point he has to be cruel to be kind, or Frib could end up paying for his curiosities with his life. As Frib invited himself along Rob probably thought he was doing Frib a favour by knocking him out. I never deliberately said Rob did it, but again that's to keep my options at the moment open.
Joanna, what does Mike want with you? I wish I could say but I wont ruin it. I will say this and see if this makes what's coming any clearer - as David told Chester, this is a war and good people get hurt. Mike and Rob had a deal. Rob broke it when he faked his death and hid out a while, adding insult to Mike's already substabtial injuries over Jason, Brad and now Rashell. Remember what happened just before Haily was born at the river bank when Rob and Mel met I think face to face for the first time - Mike gave Rob incentive to shut his mouth and keep doing his job - then Rob disappeared. The rest I won't say just yet. You'll have to wait and see with what happens next, sorry
Rashell, hey, glad to see you're back! I realise you'd be busy with studies etc, at least I think you were when last I updated like near 6 months ago or something like that, and now it's getting close to end of year it's to be expected. We all have real lives outside all this, I'm just happy to see everyone's still interested enough to see this through to the end. I know it's not the most feelgood story of the year but if it weren't for all of you reading I wouldn't do this, I'd just keep it to myself most probably as I usually do, and never finish it! So thanks for coming in and saying hi, and of course I'd be stoked to hear what you think! I love hearing what you all say, makes me grin, and sometimes makes me think too - not such a bad thing.
Anyway thanks guys, I know it's a longwinded answer (yes it's been a while) but wanted to catch y'all up to speed for those of you who were trying to get your heard around... well, what's going on in my head at this point. Hope that clears things up even a little.
Thanks again.
As for today's update - I just got home from work and will endeavour to sit down and write more today. Start soon. See how far I get. Thanks again!
PS - By the way Vi, Sis is right, don't sell yourself so short. You ARE one of the smartest people in this place that I have the honour of calling my friend. Just because you don't grasp something straight away doesn't mean it's your comprehension that's amiss. Sometimes it comes down to me. As I write this and have this world we've created and so many character's dialog and details and place names and past events etc, etc all constantly running around in my head for days and weeks at a time and, what I think makes sense might not make as much sense to anyone else - I forget half the time that no one else knows all the intricacies and details that I do - or think I do Don't ever be afraid to ask questions if you don't get something after a few reads. If you don't get it there's a good chance no one else will either - and that means I need to rewrite for the good of the story - it's a fine line between spelling out all the details and giving too much away too early and losing your readers' interest - and telling then so little they don't know what's going on. Ideally I'd want not just the audience but the story feeling it has evolved and been sufficiently fulfilled at the end when it's all done. We'll see anyway.
Actually, I did. I might not be 'Rav the Rob Ranter' anymore but it doesn't mean I've forgotten the past 6 odd years behind me, my sweet. Old feelings still linger, as always
Stoked you liked. Little moments like that paragraph you highlighted, as rare as they are now as we come to all this violence, is my way of helping you and those like you to endure the ugliness that surrounds your characters. It's not all doom and gloom that way. Small but meaningful. Stoked you liked.Okay, to answer questions;
Rav and Dave - I will simply say this sis. I wrote it in a way so that A) I didn't write myself into a corner as I did with Ava's passing (which in itself was completely unexpected, even for me) and B) I was leaving it arguably 'open' so that the reader can interpret from it what they will - and when I finish the story completely you'll either go 'yep, I thought so' or 'holy ****, I didn't see that coming' - but either way, as you said sis, yes that was deliberate. I will admit that when I first penned Rav's attack I wasn't as into David as I am now (in RL) but I decided a while back he would be the purpetrator. Without making it too obvious I made subtle hints. He was ****** off with Fox and her love for Chester when he wanted Fox (or what she had that he wanted to claim for himself) and this made his attack feasable (furstration / rage at a dominant female figure in his life - Note he was always grabbing people by the neck - Rav's strangulation - and his total disregard for life regardless who's it was, always bagging out Chester and occasionally Fox in subtle ways). His motivation was always very simple, as he attested in his speech (thanks Frib, glad you liked) Mike was an easy target to cast suspicion on despite the fact David himself was always seen as being party of the criminal element or 'bad side' with Chester's old crew. And most of you probably still wondered if Mike was guilty or not. That was the idea. Misdirection. (I love the movie 'Sword Fish', can't you tell? XD) Mike needed to be tainted in some way to stop him from being too 'clean and untouchable' as a character. It was tongue in cheek that it wasn't Chester who was the one to tarnish him but one of Chester's crew, and those that were stuck in the middle (Rob, Joanna, Sarah) were none-the-wiser. Or... were they?
Hahaha.
Without getting too deep and introspective if you read back through from the very beginning as I tried I did set a few characters up for their final end. That is, Ravyn's gradual decent into madness, David's **** for power, Mike's blindness for revenge, Rob's begrudging loyalty, Rashell's blind faith in her love for her husband, Joanna's emotional tug-of-war, Frib's need to find himself and his niche in the world, all of it is sort of entangled throughout one another. The idea being of course that when I write a part as I did with Chester and David, and ultimately David and Ravyn, I could tie a few loose ends together and leave myself enough room to say, if I needed, 'okay that's solved, they're done, move on to the next one' in essence. I will admit this is ending as I didn't orginally foresee and I'll tell you now as my character's 'inspiration' of sorts, I had actually planned to have me see out a different and far more noble end - but this is working too, and it doesn't stray from the build up from the rest of what's already happened. It wouldn't be that big a shock if she did die, let's say, she was kind of asking for relief from a painful few years of existence in a fashion.
Rob and Frib. Okay, hard one. Rob's always been my dark horse in this. Again, this last update was penned in a way that implied Rob hit him out of necessity, if you want, and as Rob sort of stated as he stole Frib's gun (which harks back to his behaviour at the cemetery a while back, for those of you that remember) that he did what he did to sort of save Frib from getting into any more trouble. If like Sis says you read between the lines you'll see all the way along Rob has been looking out for Frib but like a begrudging older brother. Frib's youth and curiosity etc as hes been caught up in this thing with Mike and Chas has him continually teetering on the edge with Rob in some ways. Frib keeps asking questions, he keeps digging for answers and Rob tells him to drop it, telling him what he has to and keeping him in the dark as much as he can - he doesn't want to see Frib get hurt but it's getting to a point he has to be cruel to be kind, or Frib could end up paying for his curiosities with his life. As Frib invited himself along Rob probably thought he was doing Frib a favour by knocking him out. I never deliberately said Rob did it, but again that's to keep my options at the moment open.
Joanna, what does Mike want with you? I wish I could say but I wont ruin it. I will say this and see if this makes what's coming any clearer - as David told Chester, this is a war and good people get hurt. Mike and Rob had a deal. Rob broke it when he faked his death and hid out a while, adding insult to Mike's already substabtial injuries over Jason, Brad and now Rashell. Remember what happened just before Haily was born at the river bank when Rob and Mel met I think face to face for the first time - Mike gave Rob incentive to shut his mouth and keep doing his job - then Rob disappeared. The rest I won't say just yet. You'll have to wait and see with what happens next, sorry
Rashell, hey, glad to see you're back! I realise you'd be busy with studies etc, at least I think you were when last I updated like near 6 months ago or something like that, and now it's getting close to end of year it's to be expected. We all have real lives outside all this, I'm just happy to see everyone's still interested enough to see this through to the end. I know it's not the most feelgood story of the year but if it weren't for all of you reading I wouldn't do this, I'd just keep it to myself most probably as I usually do, and never finish it! So thanks for coming in and saying hi, and of course I'd be stoked to hear what you think! I love hearing what you all say, makes me grin, and sometimes makes me think too - not such a bad thing.
Anyway thanks guys, I know it's a longwinded answer (yes it's been a while) but wanted to catch y'all up to speed for those of you who were trying to get your heard around... well, what's going on in my head at this point. Hope that clears things up even a little.
Thanks again.
As for today's update - I just got home from work and will endeavour to sit down and write more today. Start soon. See how far I get. Thanks again!
PS - By the way Vi, Sis is right, don't sell yourself so short. You ARE one of the smartest people in this place that I have the honour of calling my friend. Just because you don't grasp something straight away doesn't mean it's your comprehension that's amiss. Sometimes it comes down to me. As I write this and have this world we've created and so many character's dialog and details and place names and past events etc, etc all constantly running around in my head for days and weeks at a time and, what I think makes sense might not make as much sense to anyone else - I forget half the time that no one else knows all the intricacies and details that I do - or think I do
Don't ever be afraid to ask questions if you don't get something after a few reads. If you don't get it there's a good chance no one else will either - and that means I need to rewrite for the good of the story - it's a fine line between spelling out all the details and giving too much away too early and losing your readers' interest - and telling then so little they don't know what's going on. Ideally I'd want not just the audience but the story feeling it has evolved and been sufficiently fulfilled at the end when it's all done. We'll see anyway. 
