Putting her virginity up for bid.

[Chi]

I have a 10 year old myself and I worry about her role models, that is another big reason I am so supportive of Sarah Palin for the VP slot. We need to start showing our young girls that there is another way to be accepted and successful other than being a **** or a floor mat (like Hillary).



And I will agree witht he rest of you, Salma Hayek is hot, I hate skinny, super thin chicks.

While I find a lot of what Sarah Palin has accomplished very commendable, I disagree with a LOT of her views. I also don't think Hillary is a floor mat. I think she has stuck around with Bill for calculated reasons and not because she is a floor mat. Are we speaking about the same woman?? She is the furthest from demure and the type to letting people take advantage of her. I don't think she cares too much that Bill cheats anymore, just that he keeps getting caught and it getting aired out by the media.

 

[timesjoke]

Sarah Palin is okay, but she's old. It would be nice to have some younger role models, with some values and style that they can emulate. I have an 8 and a 6 year old....who can they look up to other than their Mom?

Well for a starter, other moms like Sarah show what a 'woman' can achieve without ever being a **** or a door mat. I was against Hillary because of her liberal politics but also because she was not a good role model for my daughter. Hillary allowed herself to be walked all over by her husband having affairs with anything that would hold still for three minutes. Hillary sold her self-respect for a chance to be successful at politics.

Sure, younger women are needed as well but sometimes we have to take it one step at a time and get what we can, when we can. I am hoping this mother of 5 who has been successful in everything from beauty pagents to basketball, to hunting, to politics, can rub off on the younger women and that will possibly rub off on the older girls who might be looking at where they can possibly go with their lives.

Young boys sometimes say they would like to be President when they grow up, wouldn't it be nice to have girls say the same thing? I know I want that for my daughter.

 

[Chi]

Well for a starter, other moms like Sarah show what a 'woman' can achieve without ever being a **** or a door mat. I was against Hillary because of her liberal politics but also because she was not a good role model for my daughter. Hillary allowed herself to be walked all over by her husband having affairs with anything that would hold still for three minutes. Hillary sold her self-respect for a chance to be successful at politics.

Sure, younger women are needed as well but sometimes we have to take it one step at a time and get what we can, when we can. I am hoping this mother of 5 who has been successful in everything from beauty pagents to basketball, to hunting, to politics, can rub off on the younger women and that will possibly rub off on the older girls who might be looking at where they can possibly go with their lives.

Young boys sometimes say they would like to be President when they grow up, wouldn't it be nice to have girls say the same thing? I know I want that for my daughter.

TJ- And just how do you know Sarah Palin was never a **** or used her looks to get where she is, etc.? Actually, many people (including myself) believe those are the main and only reasons why she was picked as the VP candidate for McCain because she is a woman and not bad looking. Think about it. The other candidates seemed to be a lot more qualified than her. McCain needed an edge to compete against the radical new concept that Obama brought to the table- being the first part black man to have a real chance at the Presidential office.

Also, she might be a great role model in your eyes and all, but her own daughter still ended up getting pregnant as a teenager.

 

[hugo]

Barack Obama as President would make a great role model for young black males which is the demographic group most in need of a role model.

Could we have one debate/discussion without bringing up the Presidential race?

 

[timesjoke]

TJ- And just how do you know Sarah Palin was never a **** or used her looks to get where she is, etc.? Actually, many people (including myself) believe those are the main and only reasons why she was picked as the VP candidate for McCain because she is a woman and not bad looking.

Well assumptions can be made in a lot of directions, but just because your assmuptions are taking the negative road, that does not mean your right. Her long history of involvement in the PTA and volunteering before being pressed into running for public office seems like a natural one step to the next process to me.

Why can't a pretty woman be smart or successful without other women calling her morals into question? Is it really so impossible to believe that a beautiful woman could earn something?

Let's remember that she still has a husband to go with all those kids, very solid of her considering single, never wed mothers are the fastest growing segment of our society.

Think about it. The other candidates seemed to be a lot more qualified than her. McCain needed an edge to compete against the radical new concept that Obama brought to the table- being the first part black man to have a real chance at the Presidential office.

Unlike liberals, I don't think his color is a qualification to being President, I hope Americans are less impressed at this accident of birth than you are.

Concerning her being qualified, name for me one person who was both more qualified and had a history of reform like McCain.

Also, she might be a great role model in your eyes and all, but her own daughter still ended up getting pregnant as a teenager.

And that meant what exactly?

You think girls who get pregnant all have bad parents?

What shows Sarah as a great role model is how she stood by her daughter and helped her to make the right decision to not kill a life that had done nothing wrong. Sarah's convictions and high moral stength is the very definition of being a great parent.

I don't know if you have children but you can't live your children's lives for them, you can do your best to teach them right from wrong but rarely do children truly listen 100% to what their parents tell them. Most kids have to go out and learn for themselves.

Let me give you an example:

Learning to walk, we can hold their hands only so long, sooner or later you have to let them try on their own and pick them up when they fall.

 

[emkay64]

Ya' know....I was really happy we could finally have a discussion that didn't focus on the fukking political race. I am so sick of hearing all their names I feel like I'm getting ear fukked with a chopstick. Gawdammit!

In all honesty....I don't think aspiring to be a President isn't all that commendable. I'd rather them want to be a strawberry than president of the United States.

 

[snafu]

Ya' know....I was really happy we could finally have a discussion that didn't focus on the fukking political race. I am so sick of hearing all their names I feel like I'm getting ear fukked with a chopstick. Gawdammit!

So your ear virginity isn?t intact for sale I guess then.

 

[hugo]

Let's just put Chi and TJ on ignore until November.

 

[emkay64]

Let's just put Chi and TJ on ignore until November.

Sounds like a plan

 

[sheik-yerbouti]

No interest at all in the bimbo.

I'd rather save the money, or spend it on some more beer.

 

[Chi]

Well assumptions can be made in a lot of directions, but just because your assmuptions are taking the negative road, that does not mean your right. Her long history of involvement in the PTA and volunteering before being pressed into running for public office seems like a natural one step to the next process to me..

Yeah, involvement in the PTA and volunteering IS a fool proof way to tell...- pft! You know how many cougars and housewives I know of that are at home cheating on their husbands who also attend PTA meetings and also fit the "soccer/hockey mom" mold?

Why can't a pretty woman be smart or successful without other women calling her morals into question? Is it really so impossible to believe that a beautiful woman could earn something?..

Um, when did I EVER say that? I just want to bring some of you back down to reality that no one is perfect, no matter how perfect some people try to portray themselves. And fyi, not only "other women" think she only obtained the nomination because of her looks and gender.

Unlike liberals, I don't think his color is a qualification to being President, I hope Americans are less impressed at this accident of birth than you are...

Liberals, conservatives, all of those labels are stupid. Your comment about his color being a "qualification" is even more so. But I do have to admit, I AM impressed that this country has come so far as to giving a minority a real opportunity and chance to becoming President of this country.

Concerning her being qualified, name for me one person who was both more qualified and had a history of reform like McCain.

Are you serious?? How about ALL the other candidates were more qualified than her! To name one and a woman, Condelezza Rice for starters!

And that meant what exactly?
You think girls who get pregnant all have bad parents?.

That you say she's such great model and all, but not even that kept her daughter from getting herself in that situation

I don't know if you have children but you can't live your children's lives for them, you can do your best to teach them right from wrong but rarely do children truly listen 100% to what their parents tell them. Most kids have to go out and learn for themselves.

Let me give you an example:

Learning to walk, we can hold their hands only so long, sooner or later you have to let them try on their own and pick them up when they fall.

No . Pardon my french.

 

[Chi]

Barack Obama as President would make a great role model for young black males which is the demographic group most in need of a role model.
Could we have one debate/discussion without bringing up the Presidential race?

He started it! points to TJ And who's going to make us??

 

[Chi]

Sounds like a plan

You know you can't ignore me, Em

 

[hugo]

You knew there were too many shows featuring attractive bimbos when they ran out of attractive ones and had to resort to Tila Tequila and Tori Spelling.

 

[wez]

Ya' know....I was really happy we could finally have a discussion that didn't focus on the fukking political race. I am so sick of hearing all their names I feel like I'm getting ear fukked with a chopstick. Gawdammit!
In all honesty....I don't think aspiring to be a President is all that commendable. I'd rather them want to be a strawberry than president of the United States.

Hahahahaha... you go girl!

 

[wez]

we have satellite TV and tend to watch the History channel, Discovery, Animal Planet, National geographic and a few others.

Pretty much my mainstay.. other than sports and an occasional headache from FOX or CNN... MSNBC sometimes..

 

[wez]

You knew there were too many shows featuring attractive bimbos when they ran out of attractive ones and had to resort to Tila Tequila and Tori Spelling.

Should be able to find some old 3's company reruns.. oh the scandel.. that show is like Mr. Rogers compared to the **** on TV now..

 

[ImWithStupid]

It sounds skanky to me. There are tons of other ways to pay for college.

Definitely. There are strip clubs all across the nation where men of all ages are perfectly willing to throw money at girls, to help pay for college.

I try to do my part to support young college age girls. I mean, books, tuition, room and board, that's expensive.

 

[wez]

Definitely. There are strip clubs all across the nation where men of all ages are perfectly willing to throw money at girls, to help pay for college.
I try to do my part to support young college age girls. I mean, books, tuition, room and board, that's expensive.

Hahahaha... uh oh teach.. we got us one of them Ghandi pervs...

 

[timesjoke]

Yeah, involvement in the PTA and volunteering IS a fool proof way to tell...- pft! You know how many cougars and housewives I know of that are at home cheating on their husbands who also attend PTA meetings and also fit the "soccer/hockey mom" mold?

Just because the circles you run in are that way, don't think everyone else is living that way.

My point is there is all good things as proof to her honest career in politics, for you to "assume" she has not earned her way you have to start imagining evil hidden things. I prefer to believe the proven facts and give her the credit she has earned through many years of slefless service to her comminity instead of making up imaginary reasons to hate her.

Um, when did I EVER say that? I just want to bring some of you back down to reality that no one is perfect, no matter how perfect some people try to portray themselves. And fyi, not only "other women" think she only obtained the nomination because of her looks and gender.

But your all believing that wihtout one shread of fact to back it up. Again, why must a pretty woman be 'first' assumed to be stupid and unqualified to you?

Liberals, conservatives, all of those labels are stupid. Your comment about his color being a "qualification" is even more so. But I do have to admit, I AM impressed that this country has come so far as to giving a minority a real opportunity and chance to becoming President of this country.

Women are considered a minority as well, just in case you forgot that.

The labels are not stupid if they fit. Only liberals are bashing her without any real reasons. Liberals are saying her being elected into the office is a step backward for women, now how in the **** would that be a step backward?

Are you serious?? How about ALL the other candidates were more qualified than her! To name one and a woman, Condelezza Rice for starters!

She has great potential but no background in working with the other side of the asile to reform things. She is also considered Bush's puppet and being as the liberals are doing everything in their power to make McCain seem just like a Bush clone, taking Rice on would only set that idea into stone.

So again, let me ask you to name soneome who is both better qualified and helps him with his reform platform he is running on.

That you say she's such great model and all, but not even that kept her daughter from getting herself in that situation

Nice dodge attempt, but let's go back to my question. Do believe only bad parents have teenage girls who get pregnant?

Being a great role model is not a gurantee that everyone will pay attention and always do the right thing based on that model. Teenage girls have so many pressures on them that it is amazing their heads don't explode so this girl making one mistake does not mean her mother is a bad person or a bad parent, all it means is she made a mistake and has turned to her great mother to help her through this difficult time.

No . Pardon my french.

Well from your attack on Sarah for her child getting pregnant I was wondering if you understood that parents cannot control their children like little robots.

To all those complaining about the political discussions getting inserted I am sorry, I was just trying to point out a strong woman getting into one of the highest offices in the land might be a good influence for young ladies like this one but Chi decided that Sarah must be a **** herself because she is pretty and pretty ladies cannot possibly earn their way through life, that just bothered me.

I will not post about the election in this thread again,

Times