Re: Definition of God

[Dan Wood]

"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 17:41:33 -0400, "Dan Wood" <danwood34@gmail.com>
> wrote in alt.atheism
>
> >
> >"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
> >news8abf2d1pomubs5q5u80dftfvk4n8t6q5k@4ax.com...
> >> On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 21:05:34 -0400, "Dan Wood" <danwood34@gmail.com>
> >> wrote in alt.atheism
> >>
> >> >
> >> >"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
> >> >news:q031f2hblv80i1dc5uptift4teeeel6ras@4ax.com...
> >> >> On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 13:58:55 -0400, "DanWood" <drwood@bellsouth.net>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> ><snip>
> >> >> It's not a matter of what "I think". dishnest trolling theist.
> >> >>
> >> >I checked out R.D.Heilman he is a Jew, not that I think there is
> >something
> >> >wrong with being Jewish, but Jews have never accepted Jesus Christ.
> >> >I could never deny him.
> >>
> >> Deny who? A fictional character or Mr. Heilman?
> >>
> > I could never deny Jesus Christ, your fictional character who is
> >real to me!
>
> Take your meds, Dan.
>
Thanks, but so far I've been able to get along just fine without
any meds.

Dan
>
> --
> Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
> shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
> at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
> be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.

 

[chazwin]

Sean wrote:
> "chazwin" <chazwyman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1157067936.185403.90930@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> >
> >> > The point about "atheist" is that it implies a negative. There is a
> >> > perfectly good word for someone who positively rejects the notion of a
> >> > belief in god: antitheist, and another one who has declared for "i
> >> > don't know": agnostic.
> >> > "A - theist" means NO belief in god. It is most bizzarre, I find, that
> >> > those that insist there is a god usually insist that "atheist" is some
> >> > kind of faith belief system - this I find utterly strange, but probably
> >> > reflective of the type of thought processes that form the theist
> >> > position.
> >> >
> >> > Generally I classify myself as atheist, and normally give no thought
> >> > whatsoever to the topic. That is, until I read a thread which causes me
> >> > to think about why I have rejected the god notion. At this point I
> >> > become antitheist and prepare myself to produce arguments as to why I
> >> > think the god idea is utterly incoherant.
> >> > But I insist that I have no "system of belief" which comprises atheism.
> >> > If someone tries to convince me that "wheat is purple" and I attempt to
> >> > argue against it, I do not say that i am an "Apurplewheatist".
> >> >
> >>
> >> Well I enjoy the way you put things! ;-)
> >>
> >> and I do take the point about a-theist/anti-theist that you are making,
> >> and
> >> that's how you do see it, and am willing to say that without any reactive
> >> clap trap.
> >>
> >> Let me be clear that I am not arguing the point, or saying you are wrong
> >> about your views on atheism/god/creator, and how you arrive at those.
> >> They
> >> are valid, for you. and I accept that without any problems at all. I am
> >> not
> >> insisting on anything either.
> >>
> >> My distinction could be explained by saying that I am not claiming a
> >> "system
> >> of belief" as such .... maybe have another look at this part of what I
> >> said
> >> to the other chap and I'll highlight a few keys words
> >>
> >> then I suspect you may not have really looked that closely at
> >> >> how you have arrived at your own conclusions about what is, or
> >> >> isn't.
> >> >> Underpinning that is usually a whole pile of beliefs.
> >>
> >> and i'll clarify that again by saying a " whole pile of personal
> >> beliefs
> >> ...."
> >>
> >> You should notice that I didn;t use the word "atheist" just above. I am
> >> speaking to a deeper level than just a non-belief or rejection of others
> >> religious beliefs. Can you see what I mean?
> >>
> >> as a rough analogy, I'd call athesism an F18 fighter jet. I am speaking
> >> about the aircraft carrier that supports the fighter jet. I thinks that
> >> fair, given ur "Apurplewheatist". hehehe
> >
> > Understood.
> > Thanks..
> >
>
> You're welcome, Winner Of Chaz.
>
> anyway, if you can accept the analogy, you'd see that I have the same
> approach with religious fundamentalists who think their so called superior
> aircraft carriers and F18 jets can shoot down your F18 jet, or that if they
> scream loud enough then by some miracle your aircraft carrier will be sunk
> like the Egyptians in the Red Sea.
>
> Me, I'm more interested in the Ocean Itself. And I think Einstien was as
> well. He seemed to have a an open mind about everything. [ except quantum
> physics maybe ]
>
> My religion consists of a humble
> admiration of the illimitable superior
> spirit who reveals himself in the
> slight details we are able to perceive
> with our frail and feeble mind.
>
> - Albert Einstein

Einstein was pretty cool. He was against religion, patriotism and
thought the idea of free will in the philosophical sense was nonsense.

Check out "The World as I see It"

http://www.einsteinandreligion.com/worldsee.html

To inquire after the meaning or object of one's own existence or of
creation generally has always seemed to me absurd from an objective
point of view. And yet everybody has certain ideals which determine the
direction of his endeavours and his judgments. In this sense I have
never looked upon ease and happiness as ends in themselves-such an
ethical basis I call more proper for a herd of swine. The ideals which
have lighted me on my way and time after time given me new courage to
face life cheerfully, have been Truth, Goodness, and Beauty. Without
the sense of fellowship which men of like mind, of preoccupation with
the objective, the eternally unattainable in the field of art and
scientific research, life would have seemed to me empty. The ordinary
objects of human endeavour--property, outward success, luxury - have
always seemed to me contemptible.

>
> Then again, maybe I just enjoy rocking people's boats occasionally? Sure
> ain't into flying planes into tall buildings. That hurts too much. <smile>

 

[chazwin]

Dan Wood wrote:
> "Sean" <relaxing@earth> wrote in message news:44f7ae1c@news.eftel.com...
> > A knowledge of the existence of something we cannot penetrate, of the
> > manifestations of the profoundest reason and the most radiant beauty - it
> is
> > this knowledge and this emotion that constitute the truly religious
> > attitude; in this sense, and in this alone, I am a deeply religious man.
> > (Albert Einstein)
> >
> >
> > The most beautiful and most profound experience is the sensation of the
> > mystical. It is the sower of all true science. He to whom this emotion is
> a
> > stranger, who can no longer wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as
> > dead. To know that what is impenetrable to us really exists, manifesting
> > itself as the highest wisdom and the most radiant beauty which our dull
> > faculties can comprehend only in their primitive forms - this knowledge,
> > this feeling is at the center of true religiousness.
> > ( Albert Einstein - The Merging of Spirit and Science)
> >
> Einstein did not not believe in a personal God.
>
> Dan

True

About God, I cannot accept any concept based on the authority of the
Church. As long as I can remember, I have resented mass indocrination.
I do not believe in the fear of life, in the fear of death, in blind
faith. I cannot prove to you that there is no personal God, but if I
were to speak of him, I would be a liar. I do not believe in the God of
theology who rewards good and punishes evil. My God created laws that
take care of that. His universe is not ruled by wishful thinking, but
by immutable laws.

http://www.einsteinandreligion.com/personal.html

 

[mikegordge@xtra.co.nz]

chazwin wrote:
> I cannot prove to you that there is no personal God,

Hahahhahahaha hahahhahahahha hahahahahhahahah chazlost reckons he cant
prove a negative, hahaahhahahhahah Fido Castro's gonna love ewe, quick
**** off Cuba and do the Cuban's a real favour, jokes like that will
kill the ol commie **** laughing in a flash.

> I cannot prove to you that there is no personal God,

Hahhahahaha ewe crack me up, go I dare ya to, prove it, go on prove you
cannot prove a negative hahaahahha go on I dare you to, hahahhahahh
just pretend you can prove a negative and show the hahahahhah world how
you woud go about it hhahahahahhahaha, packed those bags yet commie?

**** off to Cuba

 

[chazwin]

mikegordge@xtra.co.nz wrote:
> chazwin wrote:
> > I cannot prove to you that there is no personal God,
>
> Hahahhahahaha hahahhahahahha hahahahahhahahah chazlost reckons he cant
> prove a negative, hahaahhahahhahah

> > I cannot prove to you that there is no personal God,
>
> Hahhahahaha ewe crack me up, go I dare ya to, prove it, go on prove you
> cannot prove a negative hahaahahha

You are clearly insane.

What is it you are laughing about? Maybe you can show us?

 

[chazwin]

mikegordge@xtra.co.nz wrote:
> chazwin wrote:
> > I cannot prove to you that there is no personal God,
>
> Hahahhahahaha hahahhahahahha hahahahahhahahah chazlost reckons he cant
> prove a negative, hahaahhahahhahah


You are a complete wanker.

I was quoting Albert Einstein.
Those were his words, not mine.
So it was he you were laughing at!!!

You are sadly ****ed up!

 

[chazwin]

> Albert Einstein wrote:
" I cannot prove to you that there is no personal God,"
>
> Hahahhahahaha hahahhahahahha hahahahahhahahah chazlost reckons he cant
> prove a negative, hahaahhahahhahah Fido Castro's gonna love ewe, quick
> **** off Cuba and do the Cuban's a real favour, jokes like that will
> kill the ol commie **** laughing in a flash.
>
" I cannot prove to you that there is no personal God," Einstein..
>
> Hahhahahaha ewe crack me up, go I dare ya to, prove it, go on prove you
> cannot prove a negative hahaahahha go on I dare you to, hahahhahahh
> just pretend you can prove a negative and show the hahahahhah world how
> you woud go about it hhahahahahhahaha, packed those bags yet commie?
>
> **** off to Cuba

I think the last laugh is on you -- You think Albert Einstein is a
joke. Personally , me, like the rest of humanity consider him to have
been a genius. Maybe you should try to read it again. Or maybe you
should let your mum see it and she can tell you what it means. I think
you are getting a little bit obsessive about answering my posts. Take a
pill!

I'd ask you to let us in on your private joke but fear that insanity
might be contagious.
Keep it to yourself please!!!

 

[Sean]

"chazwin" <chazwyman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1157092780.100791.99800@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com...
>
> Sean wrote:
>> "chazwin" <chazwyman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1157067936.185403.90930@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com...
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> >
>> >> > The point about "atheist" is that it implies a negative. There is a
>> >> > perfectly good word for someone who positively rejects the notion of
>> >> > a
>> >> > belief in god: antitheist, and another one who has declared for "i
>> >> > don't know": agnostic.
>> >> > "A - theist" means NO belief in god. It is most bizzarre, I find,
>> >> > that
>> >> > those that insist there is a god usually insist that "atheist" is
>> >> > some
>> >> > kind of faith belief system - this I find utterly strange, but
>> >> > probably
>> >> > reflective of the type of thought processes that form the theist
>> >> > position.
>> >> >
>> >> > Generally I classify myself as atheist, and normally give no thought
>> >> > whatsoever to the topic. That is, until I read a thread which causes
>> >> > me
>> >> > to think about why I have rejected the god notion. At this point I
>> >> > become antitheist and prepare myself to produce arguments as to why
>> >> > I
>> >> > think the god idea is utterly incoherant.
>> >> > But I insist that I have no "system of belief" which comprises
>> >> > atheism.
>> >> > If someone tries to convince me that "wheat is purple" and I attempt
>> >> > to
>> >> > argue against it, I do not say that i am an "Apurplewheatist".
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Well I enjoy the way you put things! ;-)
>> >>
>> >> and I do take the point about a-theist/anti-theist that you are
>> >> making,
>> >> and
>> >> that's how you do see it, and am willing to say that without any
>> >> reactive
>> >> clap trap.
>> >>
>> >> Let me be clear that I am not arguing the point, or saying you are
>> >> wrong
>> >> about your views on atheism/god/creator, and how you arrive at those.
>> >> They
>> >> are valid, for you. and I accept that without any problems at all. I
>> >> am
>> >> not
>> >> insisting on anything either.
>> >>
>> >> My distinction could be explained by saying that I am not claiming a
>> >> "system
>> >> of belief" as such .... maybe have another look at this part of what I
>> >> said
>> >> to the other chap and I'll highlight a few keys words
>> >>
>> >> then I suspect you may not have really looked that closely at
>> >> >> how you have arrived at your own conclusions about what is, or
>> >> >> isn't.
>> >> >> Underpinning that is usually a whole pile of beliefs.
>> >>
>> >> and i'll clarify that again by saying a " whole pile of personal
>> >> beliefs
>> >> ...."
>> >>
>> >> You should notice that I didn;t use the word "atheist" just above. I
>> >> am
>> >> speaking to a deeper level than just a non-belief or rejection of
>> >> others
>> >> religious beliefs. Can you see what I mean?
>> >>
>> >> as a rough analogy, I'd call athesism an F18 fighter jet. I am
>> >> speaking
>> >> about the aircraft carrier that supports the fighter jet. I thinks
>> >> that
>> >> fair, given ur "Apurplewheatist". hehehe
>> >
>> > Understood.
>> > Thanks..
>> >
>>
>> You're welcome, Winner Of Chaz.
>>
>> anyway, if you can accept the analogy, you'd see that I have the same
>> approach with religious fundamentalists who think their so called
>> superior
>> aircraft carriers and F18 jets can shoot down your F18 jet, or that if
>> they
>> scream loud enough then by some miracle your aircraft carrier will be
>> sunk
>> like the Egyptians in the Red Sea.
>>
>> Me, I'm more interested in the Ocean Itself. And I think Einstien was as
>> well. He seemed to have a an open mind about everything. [ except quantum
>> physics maybe ]
>>
>> My religion consists of a humble
>> admiration of the illimitable superior
>> spirit who reveals himself in the
>> slight details we are able to perceive
>> with our frail and feeble mind.
>>
>> - Albert Einstein
>
> Einstein was pretty cool. He was against religion, patriotism and
> thought the idea of free will in the philosophical sense was nonsense.
>
> Check out "The World as I see It"
>
> http://www.einsteinandreligion.com/worldsee.html
>
> To inquire after the meaning or object of one's own existence or of
> creation generally has always seemed to me absurd from an objective
> point of view. And yet everybody has certain ideals which determine the
> direction of his endeavours and his judgments. In this sense I have
> never looked upon ease and happiness as ends in themselves-such an
> ethical basis I call more proper for a herd of swine. The ideals which
> have lighted me on my way and time after time given me new courage to
> face life cheerfully, have been Truth, Goodness, and Beauty. Without
> the sense of fellowship which men of like mind, of preoccupation with
> the objective, the eternally unattainable in the field of art and
> scientific research, life would have seemed to me empty. The ordinary
> objects of human endeavour--property, outward success, luxury - have
> always seemed to me contemptible.
>

Thanks 4 the link, great quote!

>>
>> Then again, maybe I just enjoy rocking people's boats occasionally? Sure
>> ain't into flying planes into tall buildings. That hurts too much.
>> <smile>
>

 

[stayhuman]

I wonder if einstein could have proved that there is no easter bunny?

 

[thepossibilities]

Christopher A. Lee wrote:
> On 31 Aug 2006 09:35:34 -0700, "thepossibilities"
> <bhunt1273@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >Christopher A. Lee wrote:
> >
> >> And we didn't "approach you", moron.
> >>
> >> You came here and were incredibly, sanctimoniously, nastily rude.
> >
> >yep that's me, already got a good label for me don't yah, glad you've
> >already judged me by this post. tells me a little bit about what kinda
> >person you are for sure.
>
> Add liar to that. You're a sanctimonious hypocrite who can't grasp
> that the negative reaction he engenders wouldnt even happen if he had
> the inteligence to keep his BS to himself.
>
> >there is an old saying you react how your reacted too.

Jesus loves you!!!!

 

[stoney]

On Fri, 1 Sep 2006 01:39:49 -0400, "Dan Wood" <danwood34@gmail.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

>
>"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
>news:khjef29jc6dhsh5mofj8i7qd3blljp1p2b@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 17:41:33 -0400, "Dan Wood" <danwood34@gmail.com>
>> wrote in alt.atheism
>>
>> >
>> >"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
>> >news8abf2d1pomubs5q5u80dftfvk4n8t6q5k@4ax.com...
>> >> On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 21:05:34 -0400, "Dan Wood" <danwood34@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote in alt.atheism
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
>> >> >news:q031f2hblv80i1dc5uptift4teeeel6ras@4ax.com...
>> >> >> On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 13:58:55 -0400, "DanWood" <drwood@bellsouth.net>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> ><snip>
>> >> >> It's not a matter of what "I think". dishnest trolling theist.
>> >> >>
>> >> >I checked out R.D.Heilman he is a Jew, not that I think there is
>> >something
>> >> >wrong with being Jewish, but Jews have never accepted Jesus Christ.
>> >> >I could never deny him.
>> >>
>> >> Deny who? A fictional character or Mr. Heilman?
>> >>
>> > I could never deny Jesus Christ, your fictional character who is
>> >real to me!
>>
>> Take your meds, Dan.
>>
>Thanks, but so far I've been able to get along just fine without
>any meds.

That's a common statement amongst the psychotic.



--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.

 

[Daniel T.]

Dan Wood wrote:
> "Daniel T." <daniel_t@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > "Dan Wood" <danwood34@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > An out of touch person seeing a TV for the first time might see
> > > this as magic or supernatural. Many intelligent Americans have
> > > absolutely no idea how TVs works, but would feel highly
> > > superior to the superstitious primitive who might think it
> > > works by magic, but has only a slightly better understanding of
> > > its workings. The fact that science doesn't know how to test
> > > for the supernatural could possibility be because of its
> > > shortcomings at the present time.
> >
> > Exactly. So many times, things that we thought were supernatural
> > turned out to have natural explanations. Are you sure you want to
> > assert that the things you currently think are supernatural will
> > never have any sort of natural explanation? Are you like that
> > "out of touch" TV watcher?
>
> No! If it turns out to have a natural explanation I will have no
> choice, but to accept it for what it is.

Until then, I guess you will insist on it being supernatural, just like
our out of touch TV watcher. Got it.

 

[Dan Wood]

"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 1 Sep 2006 01:39:49 -0400, "Dan Wood" <danwood34@gmail.com>
> wrote in alt.atheism
>
> >
> >"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
> >news:khjef29jc6dhsh5mofj8i7qd3blljp1p2b@4ax.com...
> >> On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 17:41:33 -0400, "Dan Wood" <danwood34@gmail.com>
> >> wrote in alt.atheism
> >>
> >> >
> >> >"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
> >> >news8abf2d1pomubs5q5u80dftfvk4n8t6q5k@4ax.com...
> >> >> On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 21:05:34 -0400, "Dan Wood" <danwood34@gmail.com>
> >> >> wrote in alt.atheism
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
> >> >> >news:q031f2hblv80i1dc5uptift4teeeel6ras@4ax.com...
> >> >> >> On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 13:58:55 -0400, "DanWood"
<drwood@bellsouth.net>
> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> ><snip>
> >> >> >> It's not a matter of what "I think". dishnest trolling theist.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >I checked out R.D.Heilman he is a Jew, not that I think there is
> >> >something
> >> >> >wrong with being Jewish, but Jews have never accepted Jesus Christ.
> >> >> >I could never deny him.
> >> >>
> >> >> Deny who? A fictional character or Mr. Heilman?
> >> >>
> >> > I could never deny Jesus Christ, your fictional character who is
> >> >real to me!
> >>
> >> Take your meds, Dan.
> >>
> >Thanks, but so far I've been able to get along just fine without
> >any meds.
>
> That's a common statement amongst the psychotic.
>
Are you acousing me of being psychotic???
>
If so this is liable.
>
>
> --
> Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
> shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
> at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
> be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.

 

[Dan Wood]

"chazwin" <chazwyman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> Dan Wood wrote:
> > "Sean" <relaxing@earth> wrote in message news:44f7ae1c@news.eftel.com...
> > > A knowledge of the existence of something we cannot penetrate, of the
> > > manifestations of the profoundest reason and the most radiant beauty -
it
> > is
> > > this knowledge and this emotion that constitute the truly religious
> > > attitude; in this sense, and in this alone, I am a deeply religious
man.
> > > (Albert Einstein)
> > >
> > >
> > > The most beautiful and most profound experience is the sensation of
the
> > > mystical. It is the sower of all true science. He to whom this emotion
is
> > a
> > > stranger, who can no longer wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good
as
> > > dead. To know that what is impenetrable to us really exists,
manifesting
> > > itself as the highest wisdom and the most radiant beauty which our
dull
> > > faculties can comprehend only in their primitive forms - this
knowledge,
> > > this feeling is at the center of true religiousness.
> > > ( Albert Einstein - The Merging of Spirit and Science)
> > >
> > Einstein did not not believe in a personal God.
> >
> > Dan
>
> True
>
> About God, I cannot accept any concept based on the authority of the
> Church. As long as I can remember, I have resented mass indocrination.
> I do not believe in the fear of life, in the fear of death, in blind
> faith. I cannot prove to you that there is no personal God, but if I
> were to speak of him, I would be a liar. I do not believe in the God of
> theology who rewards good and punishes evil. My God created laws that
> take care of that. His universe is not ruled by wishful thinking, but
> by immutable laws.
>
I agree 100%. This is my thoughts exactly. I am Christian, but
I have little need for organized religion. I attend church services
But not on a reguliar basis. But I love Christian music, that is
where there is a professional choir director and professional
organist/ pianist.
>
> http://www.einsteinandreligion.com/personal.html
>

 

[The Chief Instigator]

"Dan Wood" <danwood34@gmail.com> writes:

>"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
>news:k4rgf2ti0v4q21vpdh1huaqejsnim6ip2f@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 1 Sep 2006 01:39:49 -0400, "Dan Wood" <danwood34@gmail.com>
>> wrote in alt.atheism

>> >"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
>> >news:khjef29jc6dhsh5mofj8i7qd3blljp1p2b@4ax.com...
>> >> On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 17:41:33 -0400, "Dan Wood" <danwood34@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote in alt.atheism

>> >> >"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
>> >> >news8abf2d1pomubs5q5u80dftfvk4n8t6q5k@4ax.com...
>> >> >> On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 21:05:34 -0400, "Dan Wood" <danwood34@gmail.com>
>> >> >> wrote in alt.atheism

>> >> >> >"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
>> >> >> >news:q031f2hblv80i1dc5uptift4teeeel6ras@4ax.com...
>> >> >> >> On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 13:58:55 -0400, "DanWood"
><drwood@bellsouth.net>
>> >> >> >> wrote:

>> >> >> >> ><snip>
>> >> >> >> It's not a matter of what "I think". dishnest trolling theist.

>> >> >> >I checked out R.D.Heilman he is a Jew, not that I think there is
>> >> >> >something wrong with being Jewish, but Jews have never accepted
>> >> >> >Jesus Christ. I could never deny him.

>> >> >> Deny who? A fictional character or Mr. Heilman?

>> >> > I could never deny Jesus Christ, your fictional character who is
>> >> >real to me!

>> >> Take your meds, Dan.

>> >Thanks, but so far I've been able to get along just fine without
>> >any meds.

>> That's a common statement amongst the psychotic.

>Are you acousing me of being psychotic???

>If so this is liable.

I'm sure a court will be amused by your claims of being damaged, considering
you evidently can't spell very well, and you conveniently hide behind an ISP
that doesn't immediately give away your location. Should you be addressed as
Pete Stapleton Junior?

--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Milwaukee 4, Houston 2 (May 9)
NEXT GAME: Saturday, October 7 vs. Grand Rapids, 7:35

 

[Dan Wood]

"Steve O" <sendspam@here.com> wrote in message
news:4lao82F11b41U1@individual.net...
>
> "DanWood" <drwood@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news9OHg.22298$j8.13315@bignews7.bellsouth.net...
> >
> > "Steve O" <sendspam@here.com> wrote in message
> > news:4l9mkeFrldmU1@individual.net...
> >>
> >> "Gospel Bretts" <bretts1967@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news9eue2ds3eupugud4750qk3amm0q8guvei@4ax.com...
> >> > On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 12:26:37 -0400, "DanWood" <drwood@bellsouth.net>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>"Gospel Bretts" <bretts1967@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> >>news:1o5ue2lpilb9hcfmlb3o5758hs65nvfhes@4ax.com...
> >> >>> On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 10:34:00 -0400, "DanWood"
<drwood@bellsouth.net>
> >> >>> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >"Bob" <spam@uce.gov> wrote in message
> >> >>> >news:44eee5f4.142985437@news-server.houston.rr.com...
> >> >>> >> On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 12:20:08 -0400, "DanWood"
> > <drwood@bellsouth.net>
> >> >>> >> wrote:
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> >There are people who go to their deaths completely
> >> >>> >> >assured that it's not the end. And are convinced they
> >> >>> >> >will live again a much better life. Atheist, however,
> >> >>> >> >have none of this assurance.
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> Neither do some theists.
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> Our existence as creatures is ephemeral - like the existence of
a
> >> >>> >> snowflake. It comes into being, exists briefly, and then no
longer
> >> >>> >> exists.
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> There is no rational argument to support "life after death".
There
> > is
> >> >>> >> sufficient scientific evidence that once the brain stops
function
> >> >>> >> permanently, a person's conscious awareness is no longer
possible.
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >That is really quite besides the point. Does consciousness dwell
> >> >>> >exclusively in the brain?
> >> >>> >No one knows for certain.
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I agree that there's no reason for consciousness to have evolved
> >> >>> confined exclusively inside the brain, although we strongly suspect
> >> >>> that it can't exist without the brain.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> You said that "no one knows for certain", but the subject is
amenable
> >> >>> to experimentation. First, though, you'd have to define what is
> >> >>> "consciousness".
> >> >>>
> >> >>> In any case, consciousness is certainly confined within the body,
> >> >>> even
> >> >>> if not wholly inside the brain (i.e. there is no "soul" that wafts
on
> >> >>> up to the sky when you die).
> >> >>>
> >> >>Whether this is true of not when a young person faces certain death,
> >> >>he/she as well as believing parents and friends have a real and
genuine
> >> >>assurance which is all that counts.
> >> >>
> >> >>My friend and a colleague lost his 5 year old child to a deadly
> >> >>an incurable disease last year.There was nothing the medical
> >> >>profession could do to cure this child or prolong the life his
> >> >>life.
> >> >>
> >> >>I would not under any circumstances take whatever peace
> >> >>of mind their faith provided for them after their loss.
> >> >
> >> > I certainly wouldn't have taken the 5 year old's hope away from him.
I
> >> > would have lied to him right up until he died, telling him that he
was
> >> > going to be alright, that God was watching over him, etc.
> >> >
> >> >> So,whether it's real or not it is comforting, at at such times
that's
> >> >>all that really matters.
> >>
> >> It's a comforting lie.
> >>
> > Is it: do you have evidence to back up your claim?
> >
>
> Stop shifting the burden of proof.
> It's a dishonest tactic, one which we often see from theists.
>
I bear no burden of proof. I stated whether it's real or not it is
comforting.
The only claim I made is the comforting aspect - nothing more.
If you disagree, that's fine. I have nothing to prove to you. Yet,
you claimed its a lie. So it's you with the the burden of proof.
>
Dan
> --
> Steve O
> a.a. #2240
> "Apparently, as I understand it , I am supposed to repent for being the
way
> that God made me, and then God will save me from God's wrath?"
>
>
>

 

[chazwin]

thepossibilities wrote:
> Christopher A. Lee wrote:
> > On 31 Aug 2006 09:35:34 -0700, "thepossibilities"
> > <bhunt1273@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >Christopher A. Lee wrote:
> > >
> > >> And we didn't "approach you", moron.
> > >>
> > >> You came here and were incredibly, sanctimoniously, nastily rude.
> > >
> > >yep that's me, already got a good label for me don't yah, glad you've
> > >already judged me by this post. tells me a little bit about what kinda
> > >person you are for sure.
> >
> > Add liar to that. You're a sanctimonious hypocrite who can't grasp
> > that the negative reaction he engenders wouldnt even happen if he had
> > the inteligence to keep his BS to himself.
> >
> > >there is an old saying you react how your reacted too.
>
I think you mean "you react how you're reacted to" - though it might
not be very grammatical to say reacted to.


> Jesus loves you!!!!

 

[chazwin]

thepossibilities wrote:
> Christopher A. Lee wrote:
> > On 31 Aug 2006 09:35:34 -0700, "thepossibilities"
> > <bhunt1273@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >Christopher A. Lee wrote:
> > >
> > >> And we didn't "approach you", moron.
> > >>
> > >> You came here and were incredibly, sanctimoniously, nastily rude.
> > >
> > >yep that's me, already got a good label for me don't yah, glad you've
> > >already judged me by this post. tells me a little bit about what kinda
> > >person you are for sure.
> >
> > Add liar to that. You're a sanctimonious hypocrite who can't grasp
> > that the negative reaction he engenders wouldnt even happen if he had
> > the inteligence to keep his BS to himself.
> >
> > >there is an old saying you react how your reacted too.
>
> Jesus loves you!!!!

If I felt love from Jesus then maybe I would love him back - but as I
feel nothing from anyone but humans that love me, I am quite content
to love them back instead of your invisible friend.

 

[stoney]

On Fri, 1 Sep 2006 19:11:45 -0400, "Dan Wood" <danwood34@gmail.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

>
>"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
>news:k4rgf2ti0v4q21vpdh1huaqejsnim6ip2f@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 1 Sep 2006 01:39:49 -0400, "Dan Wood" <danwood34@gmail.com>
>> wrote in alt.atheism
>>
>> >
>> >"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
>> >news:khjef29jc6dhsh5mofj8i7qd3blljp1p2b@4ax.com...
>> >> On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 17:41:33 -0400, "Dan Wood" <danwood34@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote in alt.atheism
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
>> >> >news8abf2d1pomubs5q5u80dftfvk4n8t6q5k@4ax.com...
>> >> >> On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 21:05:34 -0400, "Dan Wood" <danwood34@gmail.com>
>> >> >> wrote in alt.atheism
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
>> >> >> >news:q031f2hblv80i1dc5uptift4teeeel6ras@4ax.com...
>> >> >> >> On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 13:58:55 -0400, "DanWood"
><drwood@bellsouth.net>
>> >> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> ><snip>
>> >> >> >> It's not a matter of what "I think". dishnest trolling theist.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >I checked out R.D.Heilman he is a Jew, not that I think there is
>> >> >something
>> >> >> >wrong with being Jewish, but Jews have never accepted Jesus Christ.
>> >> >> >I could never deny him.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Deny who? A fictional character or Mr. Heilman?
>> >> >>
>> >> > I could never deny Jesus Christ, your fictional character who is
>> >> >real to me!
>> >>
>> >> Take your meds, Dan.
>> >>
>> >Thanks, but so far I've been able to get along just fine without
>> >any meds.
>>
>> That's a common statement amongst the psychotic.
>>
>Are you acousing me of being psychotic???

Guilty conscience I see.

>If so this is liable.

You're liable to be psychotic?

Please make up your mind.


--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.

 

[Dan Wood]

"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
news:di4jf2l4g5a87597jkbkf4pehe1rc5gh8g@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 1 Sep 2006 19:11:45 -0400, "Dan Wood" <danwood34@gmail.com>
> wrote in alt.atheism
>
> >
> >"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
> >news:k4rgf2ti0v4q21vpdh1huaqejsnim6ip2f@4ax.com...
> >> On Fri, 1 Sep 2006 01:39:49 -0400, "Dan Wood" <danwood34@gmail.com>
> >> wrote in alt.atheism
> >>
> >> >
> >> >"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
> >> >news:khjef29jc6dhsh5mofj8i7qd3blljp1p2b@4ax.com...
> >> >> On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 17:41:33 -0400, "Dan Wood" <danwood34@gmail.com>
> >> >> wrote in alt.atheism
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
> >> >> >news8abf2d1pomubs5q5u80dftfvk4n8t6q5k@4ax.com...
> >> >> >> On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 21:05:34 -0400, "Dan Wood"
<danwood34@gmail.com>
> >> >> >> wrote in alt.atheism
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
> >> >> >> >news:q031f2hblv80i1dc5uptift4teeeel6ras@4ax.com...
> >> >> >> >> On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 13:58:55 -0400, "DanWood"
> ><drwood@bellsouth.net>
> >> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> ><snip>
> >> >> >> >> It's not a matter of what "I think". dishnest trolling theist.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >I checked out R.D.Heilman he is a Jew, not that I think there is
> >> >> >something
> >> >> >> >wrong with being Jewish, but Jews have never accepted Jesus
Christ.
> >> >> >> >I could never deny him.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Deny who? A fictional character or Mr. Heilman?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> > I could never deny Jesus Christ, your fictional character who is
> >> >> >real to me!
> >> >>
> >> >> Take your meds, Dan.
> >> >>
> >> >Thanks, but so far I've been able to get along just fine without
> >> >any meds.
> >>
> >> That's a common statement amongst the psychotic.
> >>
> >Are you acousing me of being psychotic???
>
> Guilty conscience I see.
>
> >If so this is liable.
>
> You're liable to be psychotic?
>
> Please make up your mind.
>
No, you have slandered me.

Dan Wood, DDS
>
> --
> Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
> shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
> at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
> be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.