Should Cruelty to Animals posing as "Sport" be Banned?

Chi

Chi

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That's a completely absurd leap. By your stupid exaggeration you could say the same about people and, eugenics, oh wait, the far left, secular progressives already tried that. :rolleyes:
Those behaviors in dogs are only negative, based on your "opinion". Let me expand on your completely absurd comparison to people. Maybe we should breed out homosexuality.

Seems a bit stupid, doesn't it? Why? Because it's who they are and what they do.
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Who is homosexually hurting though?

 
Chi

Chi

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Wow. These people should be charged.
They allowed their dog to maintain it's instincts to fight back against an animal that is attacking it's owners.

Mountain lion mauls dog that defended owners

**** dog should have known it's place. Cowering in the corner while it's owner was mauled to death by the cougar, because Chi made them breed it into a docile lap dog.

They need to put the vicious beast down, before it breeds and passes on it's vicious, violent "negative" behaviors.

Viva eugenics, for animals and people.

Go Chi.
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There is nothing wrong with instincts to PROTECT those that you love from danger/death. I'm talking against encouraging and teaching to kill for "fun", for absolutely NO reason. THAT is demented. Self defense would be a reason, a good reason - duh.

 
Chi

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Btw our dog is a lap dog, but she acts and thinks she's a rottweiler when she thinks she is protecting us. There is nothing wrong with that. And we surely don't plan on teaching her to kill other weaker animals for no reason, to pass the time or as a fun thing to do.
 
ImWithStupid

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Who is homosexually hurting though?
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Who is a hunting dog hurting.

I see you failed to grasp the whole...

Those behaviors in dogs are only negative, based on your "opinion".
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part of the post.

In some peoples "opinion" homosexuality is wrong.

In some peoples "opinion" all hunting is wrong and unnecessary, neither "opinion" means it's a fact or correct. Just as your "opinion" that we need to breed out the hunting insticts from dogs, makes it fact or correct. By definition, they are "opinions".

 
Chi

Chi

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Who is a hunting dog hurting.".
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The dog by teaching them that killing for "fun" is a good thing. And the innocent animals losing their lives in such a vicious, violent and pointless way. It also backfires when you teach your animals (and people) that being violent is okay when they hurt/kill those that you intent them not to.

In some peoples "opinion" homosexuality is wrong. And that's fine. But again, homosexuality alone isn't hurting anyone.
 
ImWithStupid

ImWithStupid

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The dog by teaching them that killing for "fun" is a good thing. And the innocent animals losing their lives in such a vicious, violent and pointless way. It also backfires when you teach your animals (and people) that being violent is okay when they hurt/kill those that you intent them not to.
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In some peoples "opinion" homosexuality is wrong. And that's fine. But again, homosexuality alone isn't hurting anyone.
You obviously don't know much about hunting dogs or training dogs. Hunting dogs aren't violent. They aren't killing for "fun". They are acting on their instincts. They are trained for a specific purpose. Pointers and retrievers find or fetch things, usually birds sometimes small game. Hounds chase and corner, tree or kill things, usually small game but also larger game like deer, bear or boar. This doesn't make them violent. It's not a violent act to the dog.

 
Chi

Chi

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You like to eat don't ya?
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Again, that would have a purpose. Killing just because, for "fun" is warped imo. You hunt and eat the meat right, Snafu? That's what you said. Not just because you like to kill.

 
Chi

Chi

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In some peoples "opinion" homosexuality is wrong.
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And that's fine. But again, homosexuality alone isn't hurting anyone.
You obviously don't know much about hunting dogs or training dogs. Hunting dogs aren't violent. They aren't killing for "fun". They are acting on their instincts. They are trained for a specific purpose. Pointers and retrievers find or fetch things, usually birds sometimes small game. Hounds chase and corner, tree or kill things, usually small game but also larger game like deer, bear or boar. This doesn't make them violent. It's not a violent act to the dog.

I'm talking about scenarios like the author used as examples. Dogs that are actually trained to kill, just because. Because people like to watch that and train their dogs to do that.

Or people that kill animals just to kill them and feel like a big man because they are killing animals with a weapon. Wow, that is so impressive...

 
Chi

Chi

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You've got to be kidding me.
I wrap my sausage in bacon.
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TMI. What you do in the privacy of your bedroom is none of our business. I knew you loved bacon, but geesh.. :D

 
RoyalOrleans

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The only reason dogfighting in the United States is amoral (and amoral in the USA is usually illegal), is due to fact that it is conducted by insidious jackass criminals and there isn't a way to tax the earnings.
 
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Interesting views. Nothing I have read so far persuades me that cruelly killing or torturing an animal is justified. People who get their kicks from cruelty posing as sport will come up with all sorts of excuses and defenses, but what all of it comes down to is: they enjoy inflicting pain and suffering, so they feel nobody should ask them to stop doing it. Of course, they wouldn't think of it as "sporting" if they were on the receiving end of such cruelty.

The main issue for me is the level of pain and suffering inflicted. If an animal dies instantly as a result of being targeted by a human, that is not as bad as inflicting a painful death on it.

Bloodsports are all about making the animal suffer. Without the cruelty these "sports" would be of no interest to people who who enjoy inflicting pain on animals. It's worth bearing in mind that wild animals have nervous systems...so they experience pain as surely as domestic animals, or humans, do.

You wouldn't let a gang of thrill-seekers into your home to torture the family cat or dog. Neither, I believe, should we allow such "sportspeople" to torture or cruelly abuse animals in other situations...whether it be dogfighting, foxhunting, bull fighting, hare coursing, or any of the other ingenious sickening ways mankind has devised to make animals suffer.

 
phreakwars

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Now why does killing an animal have to be justified? No need to ramble on anymore, I'll just stick with that simple question.

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ImWithStupid

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It's obvious that this entire thread wasn't at all posted to get other people's point of view.

It was a typical idealogue personality wanting to look down their nose at people who don't agree with them and marginalize them by labeling anyone who kills an animal for sport, as a blood thirsty, ****** that seeks out the desire to inflict pain.

Get past yourself, get a life, and look in the mirror sometime.

 
phreakwars

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See, I thought this topic was about being CRUEL to animals. I think there is a huge difference between killing an animal, and being CRUEL to an animal.

It would be like if Snafu went out and shot himself a moose, I'd be like... right on man!!

But if he went out, shot the moose in the leg, let it limp around and took shot after shot at it with a .22 in non vital organs just to see how many bullets it took to bring it down... that would be cruel.

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snafu

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I've never had the honor of taking the shot but not because I didn't try. My brothers always seem to have gotten shot. But your right Bender. I had a chance but he was to far away. I didn't want to risk a bad hit. We were in a canoe and we tried to get closer but every time we did the moose wandered further in. My luck he decides to jump in the lake and swim away to another one.
 
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