My goodness I wonder how many people that have bitched about the my two daddis book have3 actually seen it. Whatever mentioned how a kid with same sex parents would not lead a normal life and be persecuted by thier peers. What this book aims to do is nothing more than allow children to see that although their families may be different we are all people and kids are kids regardless of who their parents are. The same has been done for bi-racial families, (either parents of two different races or adopted children of a different race) as well as children from different cultures. It does not in any way promote homosexuality. It simply states we are all people. So keep that one out of the discussion as it has no bearing on the adoption of children by same sex parents
should gays be allowed to adopt ??
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I happened to use the book as part of a presentation of teaching various cultural differences at the preschool level. I chose it because it presented the issue with innocence and stuck to tolerance as key and nothing else. I have seen so many people bitch about it promoting homosexuality only to find out they have never read the book for themselves and relied only on third party misrepresentations of it. If you READ it and still disagree with it's use that's another story.
Outlaw2747
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Vortex said:
I am not religious but I am gonna use it anyways...AMEN TO THAT! Oh and machetes are fun, I used one on a field of weeds.
Vortex
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WHATEVER said:Blah,Blah,Blah...
Yeah...I'm pretty sure
Oh and what a wonderful story that is. Makes me proud to think we are all inbred on this earth....doesnt it!
Christians, you cant live with them and you cant allah akbar them....
sigh
Vortex
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WHATEVER said:
least we are on the same page...
but your straight i wouldnt expect you to understand the fact that i am gay, always have been (least since i became a sexual person..) and i wouldnt expect you to understand the hatred and bullshit i have to deal with just to be who i am....
que sera sera
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snafu said:
skategreen
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WHATEVER said:Blah,Blah,Blah...
Yeah...I'm pretty sure
Ok, so let's try this again...
We're not just "talking about gays here" - we're talking about "should gays be allowed to adopt ??", as that is the name of the thread.
We're talking about whether or not there should be rules of exclusion - should gays be excuded from the right to adopt.
So when we discuss this, we are examining the concept of Exclusion - therefore we need to look at various factors. The determining criteria in deciding who should be able to adopt is the health, safety, and well-being of the children - not pandering to any one particular bias.
If you operate off bias you then open up to:
Should Christians be allowed to adopt? - they may turn the child into a Christian!
Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormans, Baptists...why, they'd probably try to foist off their religion on the poor child!
Should a black couple be allowed to adopt a white child? A white adopt an Asian? Adopting a Native American child may deprive the child of the teachings of his heritage...
If you're a Democrat, you sure as Hell don't want any Fricken Republican adopting children and turning out more republicans......
The religion, politics, color and culture have no bearing on whether or not a person can adopt. Why then should sexuality be a factor?
If you're going to draw in sexuality as a criteria,....why should a person who watches porn, who's into whips and chains, who dresses in women's panties, who likes to be tied up and beaten..who perfers a nice warm enema....be allowed to adopt?
It just doesn't follow.
You don't have to be gay, no one is asking you to. You don't have to cultivate gay friends, nor give your first born up to a pack of gays. You don't have to LIKE them! But if you're in the drivers seat, making the rules, or casting your vote, examine the basis of your vote.
Or lean a bit further back on your rockin chair in your bib overalls, scratch your balls and stay home.
fullauto
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rather than work backwards, why not discuss reasons that they should NOT be allowed to adopt... after all, we ARE supposed to give everyone the same rights unless they fit a certain profile.... pediphile, murderer etc.... So lets assume they do have the right, and work the other way... seems a bit more logical....
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tizz said:You have more patients to explain it tothe blind than I do Skate
Heya Tizzy...yeah...well this is the "debate" forum, so I'm in a mood to yank this idea apart a bit....it was fun for me..and I enjoyed chewing on it and discovering my own arguments.
skategreen
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WHATEVER said:
Ok, so good on this. It's a start. You don't have to agree or grab a placard and join the picket line.
By the way, your, "blah blah blah" is really rude.
Not much fond of it.
daisypapaya
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There was a study done with little kids in kindergarten who saw two men and a child. They didn't apparently see anything wrong with it, and when asked what it was, they said it was a happy family. Children at that age don't care, and letting gays adopt straight(? depends on the kid) children is lke letting blacks adopt white children. No harm is going to come out of diversity.
