Single mothers equal big time idiots

Hamza123

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How about the other side of this issue. Single fathers. They get more praise then single mothers. When you hear about a single father who cooks and cares for his children in the abscense of a mother its always like they are some kind of superhero. Has anyone seen these recent public ad campaigns with football stars that gather around a single father and ask him for an autograph? Why should people be put up on a pedastal for doing whats right just because so many others don't? It reminds me of when people brag and say " I've never been to jail", like thats a ******* accomplishment. Your not supposed to go to ******* jail and people aren't supposed to ignore and neglect their children.
Thats a great point. Reminds me of the stupid idiots at my school that brag about never being suspended.

Although, imagine if you were a single mother going to University Full-Time or working Full-Time.. Thats AMAZINGLY hard, and it's another load on your shoulders to bear, only because you're trying to secure your childs future.

Even though the baby was never forced in a relationship, the mother, if she ends up a single mother, she's gotta' play mom and dad. Not to mention the fact that some kids can grow up to be burn out's which is even harder to handle. Elmoish, this is a great debate topic!!

 

Jhony5

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Thats a great point. Reminds me of the stupid idiots at my school that brag about never being suspended.
Although, imagine if you were a single mother going to University Full-Time or working Full-Time.. Thats AMAZINGLY hard, and it's another load on your shoulders to bear, only because you're trying to secure your childs future.

Even though the baby was never forced in a relationship, the mother, if she ends up a single mother, she's gotta' play mom and dad. Not to mention the fact that some kids can grow up to be burn out's which is even harder to handle. Elmoish, this is a great debate topic!!

Women are indeed the ones who often bear the burden of rearing a child alone. Don't know why that is. It's goes a long way to show the fundamental differences between men and women. Men are (for the most part) very self involved creatures and women are often more thoughtful of others.

Although here is where I do have issue with the label "single mom". I have a 6 year old daughter and i'm divorced. As a side note she left me 5 months after buying a new home for my young family due to her personal unhappiness and the logic that "we don't have anything in common". I am and have always been there for my daughter and reluctently, her mother too. My ex-wife struggles with finances and other day-to-day issues due mainly to her own poor choices. A boyfriend that is in and out of jail as much as he is in and out of employment etc. We've been seperated for 4 years now and I have always had my daughter 2-4 times a week. I buy clothes for my girl and this and that. But I never brag on it, I just do it like I do anything else that life requires of me and expect no accolades for it. What grinds my gears is when my Ex refers to herself as a "single mother", like thats what her social disposition is. I feel as though the ambiguos label of single mother/father should be reserved for those who actualy raise they're child without the benifit of the other parent.

 

Cogito Ergo Sum

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...It reminds me of when people brag and say " I've never been to jail", like thats a ******* accomplishment. Your not supposed to go to ******* jail and people aren't supposed to ignore and neglect their children.
This is ******* hysterical from the man who says his location is Indiana State Prison... :rolleyes:

 

Cogito Ergo Sum

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CES to the rescue LOL

I am single mom hear me ROAR!!!!!!!!!! And ya my kid may be missing the daddy figure, but I know what that means and I know what she needs. Better none at all than one that might either kick the **** out of her or teach her to hate herself and all women. I would never regret a single moment that led up to where I am right now. Unfortunately for your husband, elmo, I HIGHLY doubt he can say the same, unless it is idiot attracts idiot in which case I truly feel for that poor kid in YOUR care.

SOOOOOOOOOO.........................................................

bite me *****!!
SOMEBODY FIX THAT ******* REP THING...IT NEVER ALLOWS ME TO GIVE GOOD REP TO PEOPLE WHO DESERVE IT, LIKE TIZZ! (or enough bad rep to the losers, like Elmoish)

Two thumbs up Tizz!

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Cogito Ergo Sum

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Thats a great point. Reminds me of the stupid idiots at my school that brag about never being suspended.
Although, imagine if you were a single mother going to University Full-Time or working Full-Time.. Thats AMAZINGLY hard, and it's another load on your shoulders to bear, only because you're trying to secure your childs future.

Even though the baby was never forced in a relationship, the mother, if she ends up a single mother, she's gotta' play mom and dad. Not to mention the fact that some kids can grow up to be burn out's which is even harder to handle. Elmoish, this is a great debate topic!!
My sons physician, is a Board Certified Pediatrician and an AMAZING person. She was abandoned with 2 daughters by her piece of **** husband while in her undergraduate program, and she perservered and went to MEDICAL SCHOOL as a single mom of 2!

Yeah Elmoish, she gets my HUMONGOUS ROUND OF APPLAUSE award! Not because she's a single mom, but because she didn't let it slow her down.

Besides, I give all the single parents of the world who perservere and make a difference in their kids lives, a giant round of applause. They don't have to become a doctor to get my two thumbs up! Successful Single Parenting...It's HARD WORK!

KISS MY *** BEYOTCH!

 

Cogito Ergo Sum

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Women are indeed the ones who often bear the burden of rearing a child alone. Don't know why that is. It's goes a long way to show the fundamental differences between men and women. Men are (for the most part) very self involved creatures and women are often more thoughtful of others.
Although here is where I do have issue with the label "single mom". I have a 6 year old daughter and i'm divorced. As a side note she left me 5 months after buying a new home for my young family due to her personal unhappiness and the logic that "we don't have anything in common". I am and have always been there for my daughter and reluctently, her mother too. My ex-wife struggles with finances and other day-to-day issues due mainly to her own poor choices. A boyfriend that is in and out of jail as much as he is in and out of employment etc. We've been seperated for 4 years now and I have always had my daughter 2-4 times a week. I buy clothes for my girl and this and that. But I never brag on it, I just do it like I do anything else that life requires of me and expect no accolades for it. What grinds my gears is when my Ex refers to herself as a "single mother", like thats what her social disposition is. I feel as though the ambiguos label of single mother/father should be reserved for those who actualy raise they're child without the benifit of the other parent.
I'm going to give you the best piece of unsolicited advice you will ever get.

Show nothing but respect for your child's mother, especially when the child is around and do it with joy in your heart for you are doing it for your CHILD. Do not breathe contempt under your breath towards the mother. Do not speak ill of her. If you child ever asks about your feelings towards the mother, state that "We love Mommy, but Mommy and Daddy cannot live together anymore". Trust me on this one. I KNOW WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT. Give your child's mother the same level of respect you had on the day that child was born. That...is your duty as a parent in a divided home.

By doing this, you will raise a well adjusted human being who will understand that it is okay to have a failure in a relationship without having to have it become a grudge and vendetta match, and most importantly, you will ISOLATE the child from your petty squabble with your ex. That squabble has no value to anybody, but has the potential to destroy the mindset of the innoccent child.

 

Jhony5

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I do wonder about when my daughter gets a little older and starts asking questions about the divorce. Not worried about it though. Unfortunately I do not have much respect for her mom and it's easier to hide it now because my daughters age. It took a long while but I have gotten over my Ex. It would seem to me that by insulting her mother in front of her would in turn cause my daughter to lose respect for me.
 

Jhony5

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Not "seem", it WILL turn your daughter against you. Don't do it!
Change your attitude in your heart now, before it's too late!
Don't get me wrong, I keep it straight when in front of my daughter and ex. But its hard to garnish respect for someone who seems to make effort to achieve the opposite.

Allow me to provide an example that serves as a microcosm of what i've put up with over the years. About 6 months ago I called to talk to my daughter and had to listen to a screaming fight between my Ex and her bo. They hit each other and punch holes in the wall, drunken fights etc constantly. My daughter got on the phone crying and said "James and mommy are hitting each other". She was scared. If I bite my lip any harder i'm gonna bite it off. It sucks to have no control over my daughter being exposed to so many domestic disturbances.

How can I fake respect?

 

Cogito Ergo Sum

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Don't get me wrong, I keep it straight when in front of my daughter and ex. But its hard to garnish respect for someone who seems to make effort to achieve the opposite.Allow me to provide an example that serves as a microcosm of what i've put up with over the years. About 6 months ago I called to talk to my daughter and had to listen to a screaming fight between my Ex and her bo. They hit each other and punch holes in the wall, drunken fights etc constantly. My daughter got on the phone crying and said "James and mommy are hitting each other". She was scared. If I bite my lip any harder i'm gonna bite it off. It sucks to have no control over my daughter being exposed to so many domestic disturbances.

How can I fake respect?
STOP RIGHT THERE.

WHY?!? aren't you in front of a judge right now, getting custody of your daughter, and RESCUE her from that madness? Let me give you a hint, you have no good reason. GET OFF YOUR *** NOW, RIGHT NOW, AND GET CONTROL OF YOUR DAUGHTER! Get her, make a home for her, and insulate her from that madness.

What the **** are you thinking!

 

Jhony5

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STOP RIGHT THERE.
WHY?!? aren't you in front of a judge right now, getting custody of your daughter, and RESCUE her from that madness? Let me give you a hint, you have no good reason. GET OFF YOUR *** NOW, RIGHT NOW, AND GET CONTROL OF YOUR DAUGHTER! Get her, make a home for her, and insulate her from that madness.

What the **** are you thinking!
I don't know why I haven't gone to that level. I wish I could explain why I have never gone to the police. Right now James (my EX's Bo) is in jail without bond because of an assault and battery on some guy he got into a fight with. He is awaiting trial. My brother is an I.P.D. officer and I had him do a background on him. He has served 18 months for felony battery on his ex-wife and then after his release he got locked up again for, and I sware on my life this is true, punching his anger management instructor. Everytime there is an incident with them he leaves and she swares she won't get back with him. A few weeks or months go by and I find out he's back. By that time its old news and i'm back to waiting for the inevitable. I have threatened to report her dysfunctional relationship and assume full custody but *** dammit everytime she talks me out of it using my daughter as a guilt trip.

I was not raised in the 'white trash' manner in which my ex was. I have a spotless criminal record and i'm not the type to fight with my ex-wife/girlfriends. I will either talk it out or leave. I could write a book called 'I married a white trash princess'. I was young and in love with this beuatiful girl. The next thing I know i'm married with a child and a new home. 8 months after buying the house I was watching my family drive off with some guy that my wife met while he was working at a carnival. Ya, hes carni-folk. It devistated me in a way few could understand but I dealt with it.

At this point I sware that 1 more incident of violence and i'm taking custody. If anything were to happen to my daughter I would have only myself to blame. What bothers me is that after my daughter has known this guy for the better part of 4 years, she says and acts like she loves him. Which makes me sick.

 

Cogito Ergo Sum

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I don't know why I haven't gone to that level. I wish I could explain why I have never gone to the police. Right now James (my EX's Bo) is in jail without bond because of an assault and battery on some guy he got into a fight with. He is awaiting trial. My brother is an I.P.D. officer and I had him do a background on him. He has served 18 months for felony battery on his ex-wife and then after his release he got locked up again for, and I sware on my life this is true, punching his anger management instructor. Everytime there is an incident with them he leaves and she swares she won't get back with him. A few weeks or months go by and I find out he's back. By that time its old news and i'm back to waiting for the inevitable. I have threatened to report her dysfunctional relationship and assume full custody but *** dammit everytime she talks me out of it using my daughter as a guilt trip. I was not raised in the 'white trash' manner in which my ex was. I have a spotless criminal record and i'm not the type to fight with my ex-wife/girlfriends. I will either talk it out or leave. I could write a book called 'I married a white trash princess'. I was young and in love with this beuatiful girl. The next thing I know i'm married with a child and a new home. 8 months after buying the house I was watching my family drive off with some guy that my wife met while he was working at a carnival. Ya, hes carni-folk. It devistated me in a way few could understand but I dealt with it.

At this point I sware that 1 more incident of violence and i'm taking custody. If anything were to happen to my daughter I would have only myself to blame. What bothers me is that after my daughter has known this guy for the better part of 4 years, she says and acts like she loves him. Which makes me sick.

Please, please , please....

NO MORE WAITING.

Regardles of what your ex says, regardless of what your daughter says about "love" (what does she know of love at this moment in time really?), enough is enough.

Be a MAN. To **** with everything else...did you read what you wrote? I put it in RED for you...****, I even underlined the CRITICAL part.

About 6 months ago I called to talk to my daughter and had to listen to a screaming fight between my Ex and her bo. They hit each other and punch holes in the wall, drunken fights etc constantly. My daughter got on the phone crying and said "James and mommy are hitting each other". She was scared.
DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT! What are you waiting for, the phone call from the sheriff that your daughter has been abused or injured as a result of this ****?

***, if I was there, I'd slap the **** out of you RIGHT THIS INSTANT!

Read My Lips!

P R O T E C T - Y O U R - C H I L D!!!

NOTHING else matters. NOTHING.

 

Jhony5

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I wish I could say your wrong and call you a dumb **** but I can't. I ****** up and now what has happened in the past is in the past.

I own my own home and work a steady job and I provide my daughter with a solid example of stability. My thinking is that as she gets older she will learn to understand which parent can offer her the best example of stability. But I refuse to instruct her that her mom is a dumbass and she needs to live with me only. The situation is far more convoluted then I could explain but trust me when I say I am poised to make a move when this jackass gets out of jail. I have firmly grasped a double edged sword.

My brother has provided me with the information I need to apply for an emergency order for temporary custody until the courts settle it. I'm sure a few minutes with a state child psychologist would settle it. As much as I want to protect my daughter from the mental anguish of this situation, I also try to protect from the grief derived from removing her from her mother.

As far as the section of my post that you highlighted in red for me. Well i'm glad you did that. It does have impact to read what I wrote knowing that I listened to that and still failed to act.

 

Cogito Ergo Sum

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Jhony5- Listen...Please.

I'm not calling you a **** and I UNDERSTAND your situation more than you realize.

Me:

I got married one time "For Life". She got married for fun and is now on #4.

I had children because I wanted them. She had children for reasons I cannot even fathom or understand.

She had the children after she tossed me out like a used paper towel. Then about 3 months later, she shows up at 9pm on a Friday night and says "I don't want this anymore". I took my 2 oldest boys and she insisted on keeping the littlest one who was only months old.

I made a home. I was Super Dad to the best of my ability. Years went by like this. I always took my little son with me and his older brothers on my weekends. She always had a reason why she couldn't take them on hers. I gave her the bank account, the cars, the house, everything. I gave her money each month. She gave nothing to the 2 older sons who were with me.

Then, she decided to marry #3. They were like fire and gasoline. They insisted that the boys be "reunited" and that she was now stable enough to be "Mom". I resisted to the highest degree, but she worked and worked on me until I gave in. I did not wish to deny her the ability to be the mother to all 3 boys, so I relented.

I also paid HUGE child support voluntarily each month, like clockwork. She always wanted more and more money, until one day, I said, no more increase in CASH. Give me a list of items they need, and I will buy it. She did, and I did. Thousands of dollars of clothes, toys, bikes, backpacks, school supplies, season passes to Disneyland, Sea Word, the Zoo, The Wild Animal Park, everything.

Then, she and the ******* began hitting each other in front of the kids and they both started drinking like the dirty rotten skunks they were. Their fighting escalated into further violence. I watched my sons slip into school problems, depression, terrible sleep habits, poor hygiene, and the works...all because they were living in A ******* WAR ZONE!!! Just like your daughter has and will again when asswipe gets out of jail.

So, one day, as cold and as calculated as a 500 pound bomb, I said "Give them back voluntarily or I'll bury you in court so deep your mother won't recognize the corpse". She gave them back, all of them.

We lived in California for 2+ years as a happy family, Mr. Mom and the boys. She continued to live with asswipe and stay married, and they beat the **** out of each other and drank themselves silly. Many many many times they didn't show or called off on taking the boys for their every other weekend jaunt until the boys no longer even wanted to go there at all.

We then sold our house and moved away to Ohio and here we are. For the time that they have been with me, almost 4 years, not one dime in support has come from their mother.

The mother eventually divorced asswipe. Their divorce was finalized on a Friday, and she married one of asswipes' old shipmates from the Navy on the following Tuesday, but then of course, she had been ******** him for quite some time while asswipe was at sea and at Diego Garcia. Nice...

So now, she has been out twice to see us. I pay for the tickets. She stays, she behaves herself, and she leaves. I took the children to California this summer to visit her and Mr. Frodo (the new husband, who is actually a really nice guy but a bit blind to my ex's real ways) for 8 weeks. It was okay, but I think next year, she'll come out here and stay with us because Mr. Frodo will be at sea.

She called me a few days ago crying and telling me how sad she is. How much she loved me and was sorry...blah blah blah. I told her that is was cool, and that I loved her from arms length and that if it doesn't work out with her and Mr. Frodo, to come to Ohio and I would get her setup in her own place and she could be around the boys more. We'll see.

Point of my story is this.

The truly insignificant "trauma" of removing your daughter from her mother's day to day care will QUICKLY vanish in the abundant joy of a peaceful, stable, loving environment you will and MUST provide for her. Now!

 

Hamza123

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Ken, you sound like a great father. Too bad mine was an *******... The thing is, some single mothers should have all the praise they want. My mom is a single mother of three... She never asked to be one, the ******* just left and got into drinking. I haven't seen him in 7 years.

CES, what you did was amazing! You deserve millions of REP, but I can't give it out. :eek:

 

angie

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There probably isn't much that I can add that CES hasn't already said, but I feel the need to put in my two cents anyways.

My parents seperated when I was 9. My father was a jerk. And my mother NEVER spoke ill of him. My father, on the other hand, constantly spoke poorly of my mother. And when she met my stepfather, he would say wretched things about the two of them. My stepfather is an absolute SAINT. I hit early teens, and said enough was enough, and cut off all contact with my father. I never forgave him for disrespecting my mother.

As for your situation, Jhony....ACT NOW. DO NOT WAIT! Your poor daughter is in a terrible situation. As well as being in danger for physical abuse, how do you think this will effect her emotionally? If she grows up in that kind of environment, more than likely she will think that relationships are angry, bitter, and violent. That is no example for her to grow up around. She will learn from her mother not to respect herself as a woman, not to expect respect and love from her signifigant other, and will think fighting and abuse is the norm. Please GET HER OUT BEFORE ITS TOO LATE!!

 

Lethalfind

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Here is my response: I am a female and have a girl step child.
what's wrong with you?? who says "girl step child"??

to the rest of us its a step daughter. Are you so removed from this poor child you can't even own her as a step daughter?

 

Lethalfind

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I didn't get a GED, Ding Dong. Most just get through HS. Sorry your world is so pathetic.
If it was not your choice to spawn by some drunk idiot...then who do you blame?

Nice that you don't need the drunk you effed and had a kid by. Poor kid. He might need a Dad.

Tell us how "awesome" your fatherless child is after he is not so "cute" anymore. Said child might think you are quite the jerk to have had made such bad choices that he/she doesn't have a father.

Wow! Never had anyone pick my face/back/toes with a Masters. You are indeed, special.
I had been giving this post the attention it warranted, ignoring it completely. Now I am intrigued by this person Elmoish. Who says effed instead of ******?? Why does this person have this ax to grind?? I mean he/she sounds like they think it would be better to NOT be born with no Father around. That speaks volumes about this persons pathetic life. Since you have these feelings I assume you were a virgin up until the time you married so you too could avoid being a single parent. Don't worry, for you there are other alternatives...

 

Jhony5

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**** CES, the similarities are obvious. I just found out like 30 minutes ago that my ex's boyfriend is looking at 6 to 12 months for his assault charge. Good news right? Well probably not if her history proves correct. Heres the kicker. Last time her and her bo seperated for a length of time she started one of her party phases during which she met this giant crack smoking party animal named Harold. He got her pregnant last december and they were seperated after a nasty brawl. So she gets back together with James and he says he wants to take the child as his own. Despite admiting to me that she doesn't really like him, she proclaimed that she needed someone to take care of her. So now she has an illegitiment infant who was brought into this world under the guise that James is her real father, being given his last name. Totaly Jerry Springer. This situation will result in disaster down the road and I made it abundantly clear to her.

So for now i'm caring for my girl and enjoying every second of my time with her, awaitng the next freakshow put on by her mother. She has her own little infant to tend to so I feel taking full custody would be easier now on all of us.

Thanks everyone for your feedback. I needed a good cyber slap across the face. :)

 

manicmonday

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I just wanted to say I think single father's don't get the credit they deserve. While there are support groups for single mother's and such, I don't really see the support for single father's. And I can only imagine child support is worse in try to obtain because for the most part, either women don't make as much money as the man, or they aren't working because they are looking for "the next great man". I give my full kudos to the men out there doing alone because in some ways, I think it's probley harder. I just wish all the bad women out there would find the bad men and leave the good one's alone.

They deseve each other anyways.

CES and Jhony5, if you ever go on Jerry Springer or Maury, give a shout out to your buds as GF ok??? :D :p

 
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