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angie said:Firstoff, I make more than minimum wage. Unfortunately, the center I work at is in the process of being sold, and there will be no insurance until new owner is finished taking over.
Yeah...I'm lying about getting pregnant on the pill (and my grandmother). And what would be my motivation for making that up?
And I'm not a single mother. I am engaged, we live together, and he has gone to dr. appts/ultrasounds with me. And for the record, he has insurance through his job asswipe.
I won't be able to use Norplant until after I finish breastfeeding. The only hormone birth control you can use is the mini-pill. When I am done with that I plan on discussing my options with my doctor.
Oh, and all that 'taxpayer money' I'm using up? Last time I checked, I pay taxes too.
angie said:PLEASE explain to me how I am a single mother. I would love to hear your rationalization for this one.
And no, my daughter WONT have to rely on state assistance, because she can go on his insurance when she is born (or mine if I can get it set up before then, and it depends on which of us has better benefits).
How has the word "fiancee" been corrupted, by the way? We are engaged. We are getting married.
Oh, and I am sure you will be pleased to know we are planning on having another child in a few years.
Elmoish said:I hate "single mothers". They always put their status in quotes like it is some badge of honor. HELLO! It's not honorable to spit out bastards. Well, frankly I could care less if you do, but you all seem to be having your hand out all the time. Plus you want to be patted on the back.
Please. You chose to eff up your life with your horrid spawn. Now you want us to help you financially, plus you want to hear how wonderful your dreadful, dull, adhd, bipolar kid is.
Yuck. Not going to hear it from me. The poor sperm donor dumped you, so why should we care. PLEASE.....Take your birth control. We have enough "special" kids!!!
Anna Perenna said:Hey, I've got an idea.
How about if the dead beats who don't want to be good fathers stop sticking their unprotected dicks into women?
Just a thought.
Elmoish said:A dull thought.
A woman that has to carry or abort a child has the problem.
And if you want to place all the responsibility on the women, that's your prerogative, but you should know that if you are absolving yourself then you have no right to judge them, or even talk about what they do. It's none of your business.
Worry about your own dick and for the love of humanity, keep it in your pants. Nobody would want a ranting heartless ******* like you for a father.
Anna Perenna said:But it's a RATIONAL & FAIR thought, dull as you might find it.
If a guy doesn't want to impregnate a woman, he can put a condom on. Or practise abstinence. Or **** himself.
You haven't even considered rape here, I see.
And I am not a zealous pro-lifer or anything, but I doubt most women would want to have an abortion. Nor should they have to. Nobody wants to kill their own child, unless they feel they have no alternative. I am amazed that you would see it as just another option.
And if you want to place all the responsibility on the women, that's your prerogative, but you should know that if you are absolving yourself then you have no right to judge them, or even talk about what they do. It's none of your business.
Worry about your own dick and for the love of humanity, keep it in your pants. Nobody would want a ranting heartless ******* like you for a father.
phreakwars said:Elmoish, it seems your focus is on a stereotype single mom. But it's not just single moms living off the welfare system, it's others who do the same. A perfect example:
My wife's sister and her worthless husband. He's the kind of guy that likes to work at a job just long enough to qualify for unemployment benefits, then he sits on his ass, does nothing but play video games and **** his wife, lets her take care of the kids, and her have the steady (low paying, part time) job, and do all the cookin and cleaning too. Hell, he's so lazy, one time he made her change the tire on their car in the middle of winter while she was 6 months pregnant.
When the ****er IS working, he doesn't pay his bills, he buys stupid ****. Rent-To-Own all the way, then once his ass is jobless they are back on welfare and medical aid.
Right now, she's on her 3rd kid with the loser, he just got fired from yet another job and is seeking unemployment (as usual), in the mean time, another ****ing kid is brought into the world by useless people, and who has to foot the bill ?? Medicaid or whatever it's called will basically pay all the bills for them, when, every one of my children, were paid for out of mine and my wife's own pocket. WTF ?? Where is this strange law that gives people who don't do **** to be of any value to society, FREE health care over people who are out there busting their ass to make a living ?? That's not right at all.
So I don't think you should single out SINGLE MOMS per say as being the ONLY burden to society, when the people you should be focusing on, are the useless people who want the world to pay them to exist.
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Hamza123 said:Elmoish your comments are quite out of context. My father was very abusive and he left my mother. We lived in Switzerland and we were quite poor. My Mom used what she had and we moved to Arizona and rented for quite some time too. 15 years later, My mother has her Internation Backualauria in Law and is a Class II Atorney in Canada. She saved my life, and she's a single mother, and she is a hero. So before you go on about single mothers, why don't you take a look at the other side of the coin. I don't mean to be rude at all or come down on you like this, but it's offensive and people become defensive over this situation. Do you have children, or are you a youngin'?
Not all single parents are that way. All the single parents I know are quite responsible, respectable people who care more for their children than some couples I know.Elmoish said:My comments are not out of context. There is a huge population of single mothers that wear the ID like a badge of honor. It is my opinion that they should be ashamed, not proud....and certainly not proud to have no father for their child/ren and expect help with the basic needs.
And you never made any questionable choices when you were younger?Your mom sounds like a smart woman who made questionable choices when she was younger.
Again...no one is infallible, including yourself. Drop the god complex, please. It's very unbecoming.You must know that if she had made better decisions while dating...her life and yours would have been much easier.
That is probably the nicest thing I have ever heard you say. The only nice thing, come to think of it.I'm glad your life turned out well, as well as hers.
Thank God for that. And wouldn't that have made your wife a single mother before you two got married?I have a step daughter whom I love. I don't think I will have bio children.
Who died and made you Osiris?Still am put off by the single mothers who want a pat on the back for doing a very wrong thing. Don't you see that it is not a service to the child for making very bad choices?
tizz said:Hell, I know few single dads pushing the same limits of human patience understanding and total joy