Spybot say REGFIX.EXE is a threat - why?

[Leythos]

In article <eQht0JKqIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, Erratic@ne.rr.com

says...<span style="color:blue">

>

> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message

> news:MPG.227dbe33a471a0e398974b@adfree.usenet.com...<span style="color:green">

> > In article <OX4qnxAqIHA.1768@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, Erratic@ne.rr.com

> > says...<span style="color:darkred">

> >> Microsoft's servers don't seem to carry any non-microsoft groups, but

> >> they

> >> do use the NNTP protocol for usenet.</span>

> >

> > If she checks she will find that many ISP/Business and even personal

> > servers carry the MS groups, once MS makes them public any Usenet server

> > can subscribe to them.</span>

>

> ...or archive them.

>

> In a sense, NNTP goes beyond USENET and can be used

> outside of usenet at large. Jen posting from there makes the

> statement true for her except for the fact that her posts are

> broadcast and propagated to usenet at large.

>

> So this is usenet, but what she experiences is microsoft's

> microcosm of newsgroups because of the limits imposed by

> microsoft by only carrying their groups. </span>

I agree, with this change - MS is doing their part on Usenet service in

the facilities, they ARE using Usenet and have also provided a web

interface for it.

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[Leythos]

In article <#wZ44TKqIHA.1952@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com

says...<span style="color:blue">

> Microsoft is not a part of Usenet. They simply make their .public </span>

Again, you're missing the point - they have a Usenet service, it's the

root of their "Groups" that you are using - it IS the infrastructure,

the foundation, the technology that they use to build from.

Yes, they make select parts available to other feeds, and they have a

private Usenet server also - you have to authenticate with it to access

it, but that is part of Usenet methods and it is Usenet.

Don't mistake Usenet for the part that is public, and not every Usenet

provider carries the same groups, some only carry a fraction, some limit

you monthly byte count, etc....

Again, MS is using a News Server that is based on what we all use as

Usenet, and they provide the masses that don't know about Usenet with a

web interface to it also.

--

- Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.

- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a

drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"

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[jen]

"Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message

news:MPG.227ec0127ee5fa95989756@adfree.usenet.com...<span style="color:blue">

> In article <eQht0JKqIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, Erratic@ne.rr.com

> says...<span style="color:green">

>> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message

>> news:MPG.227dbe33a471a0e398974b@adfree.usenet.com...<span style="color:darkred">

>> > In article <OX4qnxAqIHA.1768@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>,

>> > Erratic@ne.rr.com

>> > says...

>> >> Microsoft's servers don't seem to carry any non-microsoft groups,

>> >> but

>> >> they

>> >> do use the NNTP protocol for usenet.

>> > If she checks she will find that many ISP/Business and even

>> > personal

>> > servers carry the MS groups, once MS makes them public any Usenet

>> > server

>> > can subscribe to them.</span>

>> ...or archive them.

>> In a sense, NNTP goes beyond USENET and can be used

>> outside of usenet at large. Jen posting from there makes the

>> statement true for her except for the fact that her posts are

>> broadcast and propagated to usenet at large.

>> So this is usenet, but what she experiences is microsoft's

>> microcosm of newsgroups because of the limits imposed by

>> microsoft by only carrying their groups.</span>

> I agree, with this change - MS is doing their part on Usenet service

> in

> the facilities, they ARE using Usenet and have also provided a web

> interface for it.</span>

The NNTP protocal That MS newsserver uses IS NOT USENET, period. I

see you still don't get it... Oh well...

-jen

 

[jen]

"Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message

news:MPG.227ec0e466ba45d4989757@adfree.usenet.com...<span style="color:blue">

> In article <#wZ44TKqIHA.1952@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com

> says...<span style="color:green">

>> Microsoft is not a part of Usenet. They simply make their

>> .public </span>

> Again, you're missing the point - they have a Usenet service, it's the

> root of their "Groups" that you are using - it IS the infrastructure,

> the foundation, the technology that they use to build from.

> Yes, they make select parts available to other feeds, and they have a

> private Usenet server also - you have to authenticate with it to

> access

> it, but that is part of Usenet methods and it is Usenet.

> Don't mistake Usenet for the part that is public, and not every Usenet

> provider carries the same groups, some only carry a fraction, some

> limit

> you monthly byte count, etc....

> Again, MS is using a News Server that is based on what we all use as

> Usenet, and they provide the masses that don't know about Usenet with

> a

> web interface to it also.</span>

You're the one missing the point style_emoticons/ It's very simple, really...

The NNTP protocal That MS' newsserver uses IS NOT USENET, period. I

see you still don't get it... Oh well...

Do your homewark!

-jen

 

[Leythos]

In article <ekZucDMqIHA.4904@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com

says...<span style="color:blue">

> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message

> news:MPG.227ec0e466ba45d4989757@adfree.usenet.com...<span style="color:green">

> > In article <#wZ44TKqIHA.1952@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com

> > says...<span style="color:darkred">

> >> Microsoft is not a part of Usenet. They simply make their

> >> .public </span>

> > Again, you're missing the point - they have a Usenet service, it's the

> > root of their "Groups" that you are using - it IS the infrastructure,

> > the foundation, the technology that they use to build from.

> > Yes, they make select parts available to other feeds, and they have a

> > private Usenet server also - you have to authenticate with it to

> > access

> > it, but that is part of Usenet methods and it is Usenet.

> > Don't mistake Usenet for the part that is public, and not every Usenet

> > provider carries the same groups, some only carry a fraction, some

> > limit

> > you monthly byte count, etc....

> > Again, MS is using a News Server that is based on what we all use as

> > Usenet, and they provide the masses that don't know about Usenet with

> > a

> > web interface to it also.</span>

>

> You're the one missing the point style_emoticons/ It's very simple, really...

> The NNTP protocal That MS' newsserver uses IS NOT USENET, period. I

> see you still don't get it... Oh well...

> Do your homewark!</span>

Do your homework yourself. Usenet is what is available, based on the

defined structure, and it could encompass public and private servers

where private servers allow public connections.

Here is a link to what you should understand about Usenet:

http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/what-is/part1/

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[jen]

"Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message

news:MPG.227edbf3ec811aed98975a@adfree.usenet.com...<span style="color:blue">

> In article <ekZucDMqIHA.4904@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com

> says...<span style="color:green">

>> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message

>> news:MPG.227ec0e466ba45d4989757@adfree.usenet.com...<span style="color:darkred">

>> > In article <#wZ44TKqIHA.1952@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com

>> > says...

>> >> Microsoft is not a part of Usenet. They simply make their

>> >> .public

>> > Again, you're missing the point - they have a Usenet service, it's

>> > the

>> > root of their "Groups" that you are using - it IS the

>> > infrastructure,

>> > the foundation, the technology that they use to build from.

>> > Yes, they make select parts available to other feeds, and they have

>> > a

>> > private Usenet server also - you have to authenticate with it to

>> > access

>> > it, but that is part of Usenet methods and it is Usenet.

>> > Don't mistake Usenet for the part that is public, and not every

>> > Usenet

>> > provider carries the same groups, some only carry a fraction, some

>> > limit

>> > you monthly byte count, etc....

>> > Again, MS is using a News Server that is based on what we all use

>> > as

>> > Usenet, and they provide the masses that don't know about Usenet

>> > with

>> > a

>> > web interface to it also.</span>

>> You're the one missing the point style_emoticons/ It's very simple, really...

>> The NNTP protocal That MS' newsserver uses IS NOT USENET, period.

>> I

>> see you still don't get it... Oh well...

>> Do your homewark!</span>

> Do your homework yourself. Usenet is what is available, based on the

> defined structure, and it could encompass public and private servers

> where private servers allow public connections.

> Here is a link to what you should understand about Usenet:

> http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/what-is/part1/</span>

Usenet is a peer to peer network of "servers"(look it up). Microsoft

does not peer with any other newsservers, therefore

msnews.microsoft.com is not a part of Usenet, period. It appears you

cannot understand simple logic...

Case closed.

-jen

 

[Leythos]

In article <#aKCTLNqIHA.1240@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com

says...<span style="color:blue">

> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message

> news:MPG.227edbf3ec811aed98975a@adfree.usenet.com...<span style="color:green">

> > In article <ekZucDMqIHA.4904@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com

> > says...<span style="color:darkred">

> >> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message

> >> news:MPG.227ec0e466ba45d4989757@adfree.usenet.com...

> >> > In article <#wZ44TKqIHA.1952@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com

> >> > says...

> >> >> Microsoft is not a part of Usenet. They simply make their

> >> >> .public

> >> > Again, you're missing the point - they have a Usenet service, it's

> >> > the

> >> > root of their "Groups" that you are using - it IS the

> >> > infrastructure,

> >> > the foundation, the technology that they use to build from.

> >> > Yes, they make select parts available to other feeds, and they have

> >> > a

> >> > private Usenet server also - you have to authenticate with it to

> >> > access

> >> > it, but that is part of Usenet methods and it is Usenet.

> >> > Don't mistake Usenet for the part that is public, and not every

> >> > Usenet

> >> > provider carries the same groups, some only carry a fraction, some

> >> > limit

> >> > you monthly byte count, etc....

> >> > Again, MS is using a News Server that is based on what we all use

> >> > as

> >> > Usenet, and they provide the masses that don't know about Usenet

> >> > with

> >> > a

> >> > web interface to it also.

> >> You're the one missing the point style_emoticons/ It's very simple, really...

> >> The NNTP protocal That MS' newsserver uses IS NOT USENET, period.

> >> I

> >> see you still don't get it... Oh well...

> >> Do your homewark!</span>

> > Do your homework yourself. Usenet is what is available, based on the

> > defined structure, and it could encompass public and private servers

> > where private servers allow public connections.

> > Here is a link to what you should understand about Usenet:

> > http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/what-is/part1/</span>

>

> Usenet is a peer to peer network of "servers"(look it up). Microsoft

> does not peer with any other newsservers, therefore

> msnews.microsoft.com is not a part of Usenet, period. It appears you

> cannot understand simple logic...

> Case closed.</span>

Yes, MS does peer with other servers. I post to a non-MS Usenet server,

my posts show up on the MS servers as they peer with outside sources.

You can apologize now.

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[jen]

"Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message

news:MPG.227f71659f56dc7098975c@adfree.usenet.com...<span style="color:blue">

> In article <#aKCTLNqIHA.1240@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com

> says...<span style="color:green">

>> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message

>> news:MPG.227edbf3ec811aed98975a@adfree.usenet.com...<span style="color:darkred">

>> > In article <ekZucDMqIHA.4904@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com

>> > says...

>> >> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message

>> >> news:MPG.227ec0e466ba45d4989757@adfree.usenet.com...

>> >> > In article <#wZ44TKqIHA.1952@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>,

>> >> > jen@example.com

>> >> > says...

>> >> >> Microsoft is not a part of Usenet. They simply make their

>> >> >> .public

>> >> > Again, you're missing the point - they have a Usenet service,

>> >> > it's

>> >> > the

>> >> > root of their "Groups" that you are using - it IS the

>> >> > infrastructure,

>> >> > the foundation, the technology that they use to build from.

>> >> > Yes, they make select parts available to other feeds, and they

>> >> > have

>> >> > a

>> >> > private Usenet server also - you have to authenticate with it to

>> >> > access

>> >> > it, but that is part of Usenet methods and it is Usenet.

>> >> > Don't mistake Usenet for the part that is public, and not every

>> >> > Usenet

>> >> > provider carries the same groups, some only carry a fraction,

>> >> > some

>> >> > limit

>> >> > you monthly byte count, etc....

>> >> > Again, MS is using a News Server that is based on what we all

>> >> > use

>> >> > as

>> >> > Usenet, and they provide the masses that don't know about Usenet

>> >> > with

>> >> > a

>> >> > web interface to it also.

>> >> You're the one missing the point style_emoticons/ It's very simple, really...

>> >> The NNTP protocal That MS' newsserver uses IS NOT USENET,

>> >> period.

>> >> I

>> >> see you still don't get it... Oh well...

>> >> Do your homewark!

>> > Do your homework yourself. Usenet is what is available, based on

>> > the

>> > defined structure, and it could encompass public and private

>> > servers

>> > where private servers allow public connections.

>> > Here is a link to what you should understand about Usenet:

>> > http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/what-is/part1/</span>

>> Usenet is a peer to peer network of "servers"(look it up). Microsoft

>> does not peer with any other newsservers, therefore

>> msnews.microsoft.com is not a part of Usenet, period. It appears

>> you

>> cannot understand simple logic...

>> Case closed.</span>

> Yes, MS does peer with other servers. I post to a non-MS Usenet

> server,

> my posts show up on the MS servers as they peer with outside sources.

> You can apologize now.</span>

I too, can post to MS newsgroups from my ISP's newsserver if I choose

to... That only means your newsserver admin has added the

microsoft.public. hierarchy to their newsserver, Not that they PEER

with msnews.microsoft.com. Sheesh!

"For a number of years, Microsoft has created the Microsoft.public

newsgroup hierarchy and made it available to anyone ON the Usenet (my

emphasis)".

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?...ln%5D;newswhelp

Can you not comprehend this?:

[FAQ] How to add the microsoft. hierarchy to a news server:

Last-modified: 2007/08/02

Microsoft created Microsoft public discussions covering many Microsoft

products, technologies, and topics because of the value of finding out

what your peers think and getting information from people who use the

same products and technologies you use.

The Microsoft public discussions have been available to anyone on

Usenet for a number of years.

http://www.trigofacile.com/divers/usenet/c...crosoft-faq.txt

I repeat, Usenet is a peer to peer network of "servers"(look it up).

Microsoft

does NOT peer with any other newsservers , therefore Microsoft is

not a part of Usenet. They simply make their .public. groups

"available to anyone ON the Usenet". Sink in yet? Come back when you

can comprehend simple logic style_emoticons/

-jen(not a name)

 

[Leythos]

In article <OEL3YETqIHA.4788@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com

says...<span style="color:blue">

> I repeat, Usenet is a peer to peer network of "servers"(look it up).

> Microsoft

> does NOT peer with any other newsservers , therefore Microsoft is

> not a part of Usenet. They simply make their .public. groups

> "available to anyone ON the Usenet". Sink in yet? Come back when you

> can comprehend simple logic style_emoticons/</span>

Jen, you are wrong, you don't understand how it works.

You almost get it right and then you screw up because you clearly don't

understand how it works.

--

- Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.

- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a

drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"

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[Leo]

Who cares? Why don't you take this **** to email?

--

Leo

"I contend that, for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity, is

like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the

handle." - Winston Churchill

"Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message

news:MPG.227fc1e0cc0d46598975d@adfree.usenet.com...<span style="color:blue">

> In article <OEL3YETqIHA.4788@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com

> says...<span style="color:green">

>> I repeat, Usenet is a peer to peer network of "servers"(look it up).

>> Microsoft

>> does NOT peer with any other newsservers , therefore Microsoft is

>> not a part of Usenet. They simply make their .public. groups

>> "available to anyone ON the Usenet". Sink in yet? Come back when you

>> can comprehend simple logic style_emoticons/</span>

>

> Jen, you are wrong, you don't understand how it works.

>

> You almost get it right and then you screw up because you clearly don't

> understand how it works.

>

> --

> - Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.

> - Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a

> drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"

> spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address) </span>

 

[FromTheRafters]

Glossary entries from one of the URL's you provided:

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?...ln%5D;newswhelp

NNTP

"Network News Transport Protocol, " the name of a protocol that controls the

request and exchange of Usenet messages.

News

The generic name for the Usenet.

Post

An individual Usenet message. Also, the act of sending an individual Usenet

message to a server that will display it in the newsgroup.

Usenet

The collection of all posts publicly distributed through NNTP.

It's starting to look like this is usenet even for you -

From your headers in your last post to this newsgroup using NNTP

X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138

Newsgroups: microsoft.public.security.virus

NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-150-224-76.tys.bellsouth.net 72.150.224.76

Anyways, it's news to me style_emoticons/)

 

[Leythos]

In article <#a#1mAWqIHA.1772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, Erratic@ne.rr.com

says...<span style="color:blue">

> Anyways, it's news to me style_emoticons/)

> </span>

LOL

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drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"

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[jen]

"FromTheRafters" <Erratic@ne.rr.com> wrote in message

news:%23a%231mAWqIHA.1772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...<span style="color:blue">

> Glossary entries from one of the URL's you provided:

> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?...ln%5D;newswhelp

> NNTP

> "Network News Transport Protocol, " the name of a protocol that

> controls the request and exchange of Usenet messages.

> News

> The generic name for the Usenet.

> Post

> An individual Usenet message. Also, the act of sending an individual

> Usenet message to a server that will display it in the newsgroup.

> Usenet

> The collection of all posts publicly distributed through NNTP.

>

> It's starting to look like this is usenet even for you -

> From your headers in your last post to this newsgroup using NNTP

> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138

> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.security.virus

> NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-150-224-76.tys.bellsouth.net 72.150.224.76</span>

NNTP-Posting-Host: tells us with which machine a message originated

(if not spoofed style_emoticons/

<span style="color:blue">

> Anyways, it's news to me style_emoticons/)</span>

Did you miss this in my headers? style_emoticons/

Message-ID: <OEL3YETqIHA.4788@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>( MS news server)

(a unique ID assigned to this particular message by the news server (if

not spoofed style_emoticons/

Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl (MS news server style_emoticons/

(Path: header shows, from first to last, the news server from which you

read the message, all the news servers through which it was passed, and

lastly the news server where the message originated)

I never said "this is not Usenet"(whatever that means to you style_emoticons/ I

merely stated msnews.microsoft.com

is not a part of Usenet due to the fact they do not PEER with any

other newsservers. Why do you think other News Admins need a special

FAQ in order to add the microsoft.public. hierarchy to their

newsservers to make MS' groups available to anyone ON the Usenet ?

http://www.trigofacile.com/divers/usenet/c...crosoft-faq.txt

If you log on to msnews.microsoft.com(a private server) you do not

need to go through Usenet(via your NSP if they happen to carry the

microsoft.public. hierarchy) to post or read on their groups... There

are many private newsservers on the net(Using the NNTP protocol and

not on the Usenet) who chose not to make their groups available to

anyone ON the Usenet (you have to logon to their server to

read/post). Microsoft chose to make their groups available to

anyone ON the Usenet ( if the NSP's admin adds the microsoft.public.

hierarchy). See link above...

Capisc?

-jen

 

[jen]

"Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message

news:MPG.227fc1e0cc0d46598975d@adfree.usenet.com...<span style="color:blue">

> In article <OEL3YETqIHA.4788@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com

> says...<span style="color:green">

>> I repeat, Usenet is a peer to peer network of "servers"(look it up).

>> Microsoft

>> does NOT peer with any other newsservers , therefore Microsoft

>> is

>> not a part of Usenet. They simply make their .public. groups

>> "available to anyone ON the Usenet". Sink in yet? Come back when

>> you

>> can comprehend simple logic style_emoticons/</span>

> Jen, you are wrong, you don't understand how it works.

> You almost get it right and then you screw up because you clearly

> don't

> understand how it works.</span>

You clearly don't understand the simple fact that in order for

msnews.microsoft.com to be a part of Usenet , they have to PEER

with other newsservers. Microsoft does NOT peer with any other

newsservers , therefore msnews.microsoft.com is not a part of Usenet.

They simply make their .public. groups "available to anyone ON the

Usenet"(if a NSP's admin adds the microsoft.public. hierarchy).

If you can prove otherwise, I'll be glad to "apologize" style_emoticons/

-jen

 

[Tom [Pepper] Willett]

"Non-Usenet newsgroups are possible and do occur, as private individuals or

organizations set up their own nntp servers. Examples include the newsgroups

Microsoft run to allow peer-to-peer support of their products"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newsgroup

"jen" <jen@example.com> wrote in message

news:urYpcghqIHA.420@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

: "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message

: news:MPG.227fc1e0cc0d46598975d@adfree.usenet.com...

: > In article <OEL3YETqIHA.4788@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com

: > says...

: >> I repeat, Usenet is a peer to peer network of "servers"(look it up).

: >> Microsoft

: >> does NOT peer with any other newsservers , therefore Microsoft

: >> is

: >> not a part of Usenet. They simply make their .public. groups

: >> "available to anyone ON the Usenet". Sink in yet? Come back when

: >> you

: >> can comprehend simple logic style_emoticons/

: > Jen, you are wrong, you don't understand how it works.

: > You almost get it right and then you screw up because you clearly

: > don't

: > understand how it works.

:

: You clearly don't understand the simple fact that in order for

: msnews.microsoft.com to be a part of Usenet , they have to PEER

: with other newsservers. Microsoft does NOT peer with any other

: newsservers , therefore msnews.microsoft.com is not a part of Usenet.

: They simply make their .public. groups "available to anyone ON the

: Usenet"(if a NSP's admin adds the microsoft.public. hierarchy).

: If you can prove otherwise, I'll be glad to "apologize" style_emoticons/

:

: -jen

:

:

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[Tom [Pepper] Willett]

"Newsgroup. A particular group within the Usenet. In October 2000, there

were more than 100,000 newsgroups. Each newsgroup is named according to a

hierarchical convention. Categories such as "rec," "comp," or "misc"

identify the general subject of the newsgroup. Additional terms are

sometimes added, uniquely defining the newsgroup within a collection of

others. Examples: comp.lang.perl.misc, rec.pets.cats,

Microsoft.public.access."

http://www.microsoft.com/communities/guide/newsgroupfaq.mspx

"jen" <jen@example.com> wrote in message

news:urYpcghqIHA.420@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

: "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message

: news:MPG.227fc1e0cc0d46598975d@adfree.usenet.com...

: > In article <OEL3YETqIHA.4788@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com

: > says...

: >> I repeat, Usenet is a peer to peer network of "servers"(look it up).

: >> Microsoft

: >> does NOT peer with any other newsservers , therefore Microsoft

: >> is

: >> not a part of Usenet. They simply make their .public. groups

: >> "available to anyone ON the Usenet". Sink in yet? Come back when

: >> you

: >> can comprehend simple logic style_emoticons/

: > Jen, you are wrong, you don't understand how it works.

: > You almost get it right and then you screw up because you clearly

: > don't

: > understand how it works.

:

: You clearly don't understand the simple fact that in order for

: msnews.microsoft.com to be a part of Usenet , they have to PEER

: with other newsservers. Microsoft does NOT peer with any other

: newsservers , therefore msnews.microsoft.com is not a part of Usenet.

: They simply make their .public. groups "available to anyone ON the

: Usenet"(if a NSP's admin adds the microsoft.public. hierarchy).

: If you can prove otherwise, I'll be glad to "apologize" style_emoticons/

:

: -jen

:

:

:

:

:

:

:

 

[Leythos]

In article <urYpcghqIHA.420@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com

says...<span style="color:blue">

> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message

> news:MPG.227fc1e0cc0d46598975d@adfree.usenet.com...<span style="color:green">

> > In article <OEL3YETqIHA.4788@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com

> > says...<span style="color:darkred">

> >> I repeat, Usenet is a peer to peer network of "servers"(look it up).

> >> Microsoft

> >> does NOT peer with any other newsservers , therefore Microsoft

> >> is

> >> not a part of Usenet. They simply make their .public. groups

> >> "available to anyone ON the Usenet". Sink in yet? Come back when

> >> you

> >> can comprehend simple logic style_emoticons/</span>

> > Jen, you are wrong, you don't understand how it works.

> > You almost get it right and then you screw up because you clearly

> > don't

> > understand how it works.</span>

>

> You clearly don't understand the simple fact that in order for

> msnews.microsoft.com to be a part of Usenet , they have to PEER

> with other newsservers. Microsoft does NOT peer with any other

> newsservers , therefore msnews.microsoft.com is not a part of Usenet.

> They simply make their .public. groups "available to anyone ON the

> Usenet"(if a NSP's admin adds the microsoft.public. hierarchy).

> If you can prove otherwise, I'll be glad to "apologize" style_emoticons/</span>

Jen, you just don't seem to understand, MS is peering or they would not

show my posts to my Usenet provider on THEIR servers, and I would not

see their posts on my providers servers either.

Face it, you're completely wrong here - you might want to chat with one

of the old Usenet admins, the ones before they farmed support for it

out, and they would explain it to you.

--

- Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.

- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a

drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"

spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)

 

[jen]

"Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message

news:MPG.22813e39be8314ae98976d@adfree.usenet.com...<span style="color:blue">

> In article <urYpcghqIHA.420@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com

> says...<span style="color:green">

>> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message

>> news:MPG.227fc1e0cc0d46598975d@adfree.usenet.com...<span style="color:darkred">

>> > In article <OEL3YETqIHA.4788@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com

>> > says...

>> >> I repeat, Usenet is a peer to peer network of "servers"(look it

>> >> up).

>> >> Microsoft

>> >> does NOT peer with any other newsservers , therefore

>> >> Microsoft

>> >> is

>> >> not a part of Usenet. They simply make their .public. groups

>> >> "available to anyone ON the Usenet". Sink in yet? Come back when

>> >> you

>> >> can comprehend simple logic style_emoticons/

>> > Jen, you are wrong, you don't understand how it works.

>> > You almost get it right and then you screw up because you clearly

>> > don't

>> > understand how it works.</span>

>> You clearly don't understand the simple fact that in order for

>> msnews.microsoft.com to be a part of Usenet , they have to PEER

>> with other newsservers. Microsoft does NOT peer with any other

>> newsservers , therefore msnews.microsoft.com is not a part of

>> Usenet.

>> They simply make their .public. groups "available to anyone ON

>> the

>> Usenet"(if a NSP's admin adds the microsoft.public. hierarchy).

>> If you can prove otherwise, I'll be glad to "apologize" style_emoticons/</span></span>

\> Jen, you just don't seem to understand, MS is peering or they would

not<span style="color:blue">

> show my posts to my Usenet provider on THEIR servers, and I would not

> see their posts on my providers servers either.

> Face it, you're completely wrong here - you might want to chat with

> one

> of the old Usenet admins, the ones before they farmed support for it

> out, and they would explain it to you.</span>

Thank you, I have my own old newsserver admin. There is, and never

has been, an "Usenet admin" style_emoticons/

-jen(not a name, therefore not capitalized style_emoticons/

 

[Leythos]

In article <e0C$S8jqIHA.4788@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com

says...<span style="color:blue">

> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message

> news:MPG.22813e39be8314ae98976d@adfree.usenet.com...<span style="color:green">

> > In article <urYpcghqIHA.420@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com

> > says...<span style="color:darkred">

> >> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message

> >> news:MPG.227fc1e0cc0d46598975d@adfree.usenet.com...

> >> > In article <OEL3YETqIHA.4788@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com

> >> > says...

> >> >> I repeat, Usenet is a peer to peer network of "servers"(look it

> >> >> up).

> >> >> Microsoft

> >> >> does NOT peer with any other newsservers , therefore

> >> >> Microsoft

> >> >> is

> >> >> not a part of Usenet. They simply make their .public. groups

> >> >> "available to anyone ON the Usenet". Sink in yet? Come back when

> >> >> you

> >> >> can comprehend simple logic style_emoticons/

> >> > Jen, you are wrong, you don't understand how it works.

> >> > You almost get it right and then you screw up because you clearly

> >> > don't

> >> > understand how it works.

> >> You clearly don't understand the simple fact that in order for

> >> msnews.microsoft.com to be a part of Usenet , they have to PEER

> >> with other newsservers. Microsoft does NOT peer with any other

> >> newsservers , therefore msnews.microsoft.com is not a part of

> >> Usenet.

> >> They simply make their .public. groups "available to anyone ON

> >> the

> >> Usenet"(if a NSP's admin adds the microsoft.public. hierarchy).

> >> If you can prove otherwise, I'll be glad to "apologize" style_emoticons/</span></span>

> > Jen, you just don't seem to understand, MS is peering or they would

> not<span style="color:green">

> > show my posts to my Usenet provider on THEIR servers, and I would not

> > see their posts on my providers servers either.

> > Face it, you're completely wrong here - you might want to chat with

> > one

> > of the old Usenet admins, the ones before they farmed support for it

> > out, and they would explain it to you.</span>

>

> Thank you, I have my own old newsserver admin. There is, and never

> has been, an "Usenet admin" style_emoticons/</span>

The usenet servers all over the world have admins that run them, they

are their own kingdoms and they control them. In the old days we use to

cancel ot post and stuff that we didn't like in chartered groups, today

it's mostly let run loose.

MS had Usenet server admins, several of them, and they run a Usenet

server that peers with others, that's how your provider gets the info.

You are right, technically, there is not SINGLE Usenet admin, but each

server or farm has admins that control their own servers, so, at their

location there is a Usenet Admin.

--

- Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.

- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a

drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"

spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)

 

[FromTheRafters]

Leythos said 'this is usenet' in response to your post found

on the server (he?) uses. You said "no it isn't", in response

to a post from (him?) on the server you use.

By the glossary entries on the very URL you yourself provided

to substantiate your claim, I posted excerpts from your message

header to show that it was indeed a usenet post - using MS's

own glossary entries.

Actually, I don't give a **** one way or the other. Discussions

like this bring about some interesting reading when URL's are

actually investigated though.

<span style="color:blue">

> I never said "this is not Usenet"(whatever that means to you style_emoticons/ I

> merely stated msnews.microsoft.com

> is not a part of Usenet due to the fact they do not PEER with any

> other newsservers.</span>

Sure, that's what you say now , but your posted usenet article style_emoticons/P

indicates otherwise.

Anyway, no more responses from me in this thread no matter how

much your next usenet post tries to egg me on.

style_emoticons/)