(attribution restored... style_emoticons/
"FromTheRafters" <Erratic@ne.rr.com> wrote in message
news:%23a%231mAWqIHA.1772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...<span style="color:blue">
> Glossary entries from one of the URL's you provided:
>
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?...ln%5D;newswhelp
> NNTP
> "Network News Transport Protocol, " the name of a protocol that
> controls the request and exchange of Usenet messages.
> News
> The generic name for the Usenet.
> Post
> An individual Usenet message. Also, the act of sending an individual
> Usenet message to a server that will display it in the newsgroup.
> Usenet
> The collection of all posts publicly distributed through NNTP.
>
> It's starting to look like this is usenet even for you -
> From your headers in your last post to this newsgroup using NNTP
> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138
> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.security.virus
> NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-150-224-76.tys.bellsouth.net 72.150.224.76</span>
jen replied:
NNTP-Posting-Host: tells us with which machine a message originated
(if not spoofed style_emoticons/
<span style="color:blue">
> Anyways, it's news to me style_emoticons/)</span>
jen replied:
Did you miss this in my headers? style_emoticons/
Message-ID: <OEL3YETqIHA.4788@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>( MS news server)
(a unique ID assigned to this particular message by the news server (if
not spoofed style_emoticons/
Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl (MS news server style_emoticons/
(Path: header shows, from first to last, the news server from which you
read the message, all the news servers through which it was passed, and
lastly the news server where the message originated)
I never said "this is not Usenet"(whatever that means to you style_emoticons/ I
merely stated msnews.microsoft.com
is not a part of Usenet due to the fact they do not PEER with any
other newsservers. Why do you think other News Admins need a special
FAQ in order to add the microsoft.public. hierarchy to their
newsservers to make MS' groups available to anyone ON the Usenet ?
http://www.trigofacile.com/divers/usenet/c...crosoft-faq.txt
If you log on to msnews.microsoft.com(a private server) you do not
need to go through Usenet(via your NSP if they happen to carry the
microsoft.public. hierarchy) to post or read on their groups... There
are many private newsservers on the net(Using the NNTP protocol and
not on the Usenet) who chose not to make their groups available to
anyone ON the Usenet (you have to logon to their server to
read/post). Microsoft chose to make their groups available to
anyone ON the Usenet ( if the NSP's admin adds the microsoft.public.
hierarchy). See link above...
Capisc?
-jen
"FromTheRafters" <Erratic@ne.rr.com> wrote in message
news:eJpSXxlqIHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...<span style="color:blue">
> Leythos said 'this is usenet' in response to your post found
> on the server (he?) uses. You said "no it isn't", in response
> to a post from (him?) on the server you use.
> By the glossary entries on the very URL you yourself provided
> to substantiate your claim, I posted excerpts from your message
> header to show that it was indeed a usenet post - using MS's
> own glossary entries.
> Actually, I don't give a **** one way or the other. Discussions
> like this bring about some interesting reading when URL's are
> actually investigated though.<span style="color:green">
>> I never said "this is not Usenet"(whatever that means to you style_emoticons/ I
>> merely stated msnews.microsoft.com
>> is not a part of Usenet due to the fact they do not PEER with any
>> other newsservers.</span>
> Sure, that's what you say now , but your posted usenet article style_emoticons/P
> indicates otherwise.
> Anyway, no more responses from me in this thread no matter how
> much your next usenet post tries to egg me on.
> style_emoticons/)</span>
Straw Man response noted style_emoticons/
[A straw man argument is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation
of an opponent's position. To "set up a straw man" or "set up a straw
man argument" is to describe a position that superficially resembles an
opponent's actual view but is easier to refute, then attribute that
position to the opponent (for example, deliberately overstating the
opponent's position). A straw man argument can be a successful
rhetorical technique (that is, it may succeed in persuading people) but
it carries little or no real evidential weight, because the opponent's
actual argument has not been refuted).]
-jen