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Jerry Okamura wrote:
> "Sid9" <sid9@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>> Jerry Okamura wrote:
>>> "Sid9" <sid9@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>>>> Jerry Okamura wrote:
>>>>> "Bokonon" <seattledemocracy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:13c7pnhnp2imkd9@corp.supernews.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:46c3aa88$0$18976$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Then if success is not possible, then we should withdraw from
>>>>>>> Iraq IMMEDIATELY.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why?
>>>>>>
>>>>> You need me to explain why? Beccause if success is not possible,
>>>>> then we are putting our military men and women in harms way, some
>>>>> of them dying everyday, trying to achieve something, that cannot
>>>>> be achieved.
>>>>
>>>> Not we.
>>>> You.
>>>> bush,jr supporters of his fiasco.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Total foolishness. The "we" are the members of Congress, who "we"
>>> elected to represent us.
>>
>> The "Unitary Executive", a role
>> which bush,jr has taken for himself
>> is the "Uniter-Decider-Commander-in-Chief"
>>
>> He need only face up to facts
>> of the situation` on the ground
>> and take action.
>>
>> But, NO!
>
> You do not seem to have a basic understanding of how your own
> government works. The Congress holds the ultimate trump card. It
> does not matter what Bush wants to do, or does not want to do, in
> Iraq. "If" the Congress wants to stop the President, they can do
> that with one simple move....defund the money that is required to
> fund the effort. Have they done that? No, they have not... They
> did just the opposite, they provided the funding that the President
> requested. So, don't make such dumb statements.
>>
>> He waits for Petraeus to declare
>> victory and redeploy our troops
>> in the plan proposed over two
>> years ago and 1,500 death fewer
>> by John Murtha.
>
> And if he doesn't do that, then what are you going to say? Are we
> going to hear from you that your prediction was wrong?
>>
>> Your role here is a desperate
>> attempt to shift the blame away
>> from bush,jr and the Republicans.
>>
>> It wont work.
>>
>> The polls tell the story.
>>
>
> The polls do not tell anything. The "people" do not know if success
> is possbile or not possible. These are the same people who cannot
> tell you who the Vice President of the United States are, or cannot
> name most of the members of the US Supreme Court, or tell you who is
> the current Speaker of the House, or who is the majority leader in
> the Senate, much less who the minority leaders of both houses are.
> Besides, the polls also tell us that "we" do not want to lose
> either....
My predictions about
what would happen
after bush,jr was
awarded the presidency
have been right from
day one.
> "Sid9" <sid9@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:fn2xi.10228$Ns6.6825@trnddc01...
>> Jerry Okamura wrote:
>>> "Sid9" <sid9@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>> news:i8_wi.7400$xc5.5582@trnddc06...
>>>> Jerry Okamura wrote:
>>>>> "Bokonon" <seattledemocracy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:13c7pnhnp2imkd9@corp.supernews.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:46c3aa88$0$18976$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Then if success is not possible, then we should withdraw from
>>>>>>> Iraq IMMEDIATELY.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why?
>>>>>>
>>>>> You need me to explain why? Beccause if success is not possible,
>>>>> then we are putting our military men and women in harms way, some
>>>>> of them dying everyday, trying to achieve something, that cannot
>>>>> be achieved.
>>>>
>>>> Not we.
>>>> You.
>>>> bush,jr supporters of his fiasco.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Total foolishness. The "we" are the members of Congress, who "we"
>>> elected to represent us.
>>
>> The "Unitary Executive", a role
>> which bush,jr has taken for himself
>> is the "Uniter-Decider-Commander-in-Chief"
>>
>> He need only face up to facts
>> of the situation` on the ground
>> and take action.
>>
>> But, NO!
>
> You do not seem to have a basic understanding of how your own
> government works. The Congress holds the ultimate trump card. It
> does not matter what Bush wants to do, or does not want to do, in
> Iraq. "If" the Congress wants to stop the President, they can do
> that with one simple move....defund the money that is required to
> fund the effort. Have they done that? No, they have not... They
> did just the opposite, they provided the funding that the President
> requested. So, don't make such dumb statements.
>>
>> He waits for Petraeus to declare
>> victory and redeploy our troops
>> in the plan proposed over two
>> years ago and 1,500 death fewer
>> by John Murtha.
>
> And if he doesn't do that, then what are you going to say? Are we
> going to hear from you that your prediction was wrong?
>>
>> Your role here is a desperate
>> attempt to shift the blame away
>> from bush,jr and the Republicans.
>>
>> It wont work.
>>
>> The polls tell the story.
>>
>
> The polls do not tell anything. The "people" do not know if success
> is possbile or not possible. These are the same people who cannot
> tell you who the Vice President of the United States are, or cannot
> name most of the members of the US Supreme Court, or tell you who is
> the current Speaker of the House, or who is the majority leader in
> the Senate, much less who the minority leaders of both houses are.
> Besides, the polls also tell us that "we" do not want to lose
> either....
My predictions about
what would happen
after bush,jr was
awarded the presidency
have been right from
day one.