The Israeli Lobby Is Destroying America Said Congressman Paul Findley
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hugo
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2005 Federal Budget. I will confess the 2.7 billion is just the direct aid to Israel. Does not include the aid to Egypt and other ME nations not to **** with Israel. Of course some would attribute our presence in Iraq as due to Israel.
I oppose all foreign aid. I oppose our presence in Iraq. We should let moderate Muslims and the Europeans fight their own battles. Europeans that do not recognize the problems inherent with massive Muslim immigration have their heads buried in the sand.
de kannibaal
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This is not the UK or France. There are no riots.
It is philosophically a welfare state, and therfore not an issue on whether they draw from these resources or not, they are there to be drawn from and used.
This is not America. People get looked after and everyone is cared for.
de kannibaal
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That figure neither covers soft costs, such as the loan payments you pay them back for the money they lent you that you gave to them, to name one.
2.7 Billion annually. That could sure pay for essential medical care for the poor rotting away in your ghettos. Leave the yids to fend for themselves.
ClassyMissFancy
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The poor rotting away in our ghettos have free medical care.
It is the middle class small business owners who do not.
It is the middle class small business owners who do not.
Jhony5
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If you bothered to look around this site before you flame it up, you would have noticed that I HAVE A ******* JOB. Yes I pay taxes. Yes I vote. Actually, I don't like pickles.
You're a ****** limp wristed little ****, and a NARC. Threaten me again like that you little ****** and I'll be paying you a visit. I guarantee you don't want that.
de kannibaal
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Yet more needy on your own shores. Let the Yids deal with their own mess and pay the price for their illegal pogroms.
de kannibaal
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Trolled!
You are such a useless tool.
You lied outright to try and defend a losing argument, I troll you and you melt down and admit your lie.
I might narc you anyway just to make your life ****. Shoudn't be too hard to bruteforce my way into the realms of your personal info, find a payphone off camera and make a quick call.
Best you keep yourself polite around me from now on princess. So far the debating skills you say I lack are not to be seen on your end, you are just all talk no ****.
phreakwars
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Stretches... yawns... looks around 
Sees 2 members flaming each other... ponders the idea of moderating this thread and censoring opinions......
Caches out my bowl.... Goes back to bed
Never say that we don't moderate this site.
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Sees 2 members flaming each other... ponders the idea of moderating this thread and censoring opinions......
Caches out my bowl.... Goes back to bed
Never say that we don't moderate this site.
.
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ClassyMissFancy
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Na... we kinda like the Hebs and they kinda like us.
Besides... if we left them to defend their selves... they would have turned that whole ******* middle eastern cess-pool into a glass factory by now.
We know they would. We gave them the nukes to do it with.
We can't allow that to happen until we are finished with the oil.
de kannibaal
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I see Jhony5 has made himself scarce. Bet you he is at Best Buy trying to up his firewall as we speak.
Jhony5
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Wow, your easy to toy with, cake boy.
Like jerking the chain of my gimp.
Entertain me with your sorry threats.
Threatening to hack my personal information.
Threatening to narc me out to the IRS for joking that I don't pay taxes.
Is this what your made of? Is that your best?
Your pathetic.
de kannibaal
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It's not a threat son. It's a promise. Better check that software you use, not up to snuff at all, ports open everywhere.
Jhony5
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Oh no. I am so screwed now. Oh my. Oh what will I do now?
Dk, you look way older than ten in your picture. Yet you continue to act like a ******* sprout.
I have irritated a lot of people over the years in my debate forum travels. Made a lot of folks very upset and heard them flame any and all imaginable curses upon me.
I have never had a dorky **** like you, threaten to turn me in for suspected tax evasion. To make it worse you threaten to hack into my PC to acquire my personal information.
What you're doing here needs too have a stop put to it. Free speech is encouraged and protected by the admin and moderators of this webstie. However pointless flaming and real life threats, or how you termed it>>>>
This is highly improper and has gone outside what is acceptable. I'll argue and debate with you all day. Any of you. It's all in good fun and hey, sometimes I learn a few things along the way.
Dk needs to be put in check, HERE, on this debate board (GF). It says when ya join this board that you can call someone a ****** or an *******, as long as you have a point. Nowhere does it say that its OK to threaten people, like you have me. You have a reputation for utilizing computer related threats on other forums. You like to present yourself as a cyber-terrorist. When you get defeated or made to look silly by another user, then out comes the threats of hacking and so forth.
please don't hijack my thread back to the real subject discussed here
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Israel has a very powerful lobby in Washington and no one dares speak of big brother unless in praise or on bended knees. American taxpayers have been forced to hand over more than 120 billion dollars in foreign aid since 1960 and there is no end in sight, even while our domestic problems continue to mount. Our deficit and our national debt is at an all time high, our social security funds are about defunct, and now we need to close military installations to save money. Yet, you will never hear any person up on the hill suggest a reduction of aid to Israel. They know, that such a suggestion would disbar them from the cliques of political power.
The lobby that Israel and its supporters have built in the United States to make all this aid happen, and to ban discussion of it from the national dialogue, goes far beyond AIPAC(the american israel public affairs committee), with its $15 million budget, its 150 employees, and its five or six registered lobbyists who manage to visit every member of Congress individually once or twice a year.
AIPAC, in turn, can draw upon the resources of the Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations, a roof group set up solely to coordinate the efforts of some 52 national Jewish organizations on behalf of Israel.
Palestinians won't get their independence until Americans get theirs! -
Ariel Sharon:
"We control America"
"Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it."
- Israeli Prime Minister,Ariel Sharon, October 3, 2001.
"Israel controls the United States Senate."
- Sen.William Fulbright
"Hollywood is run by Jews. It is owned by Jews, and they should have a greater sensitivity about the issue of people who are suffering"
-- Actor Marlon Brando on Larry King Live 04/05/1996
"I've never seen a president --I don't care who he is-- stand up to them [the Israelis]. It just boggles your mind. They always get what they want. The Israelis know what's going on all the time. I got to the point where I wasn't writing anything down. If the American people understood what grip those people have on our government, they would rise up in arms. Our citizens don't have any idea what goes on."
-- Admiral Thomas Moorer of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. (See Washington Report 12/1999, p.124 quoting from Andrew Hurley's book, "One Nation Under Israel")
"The Israeli Prime Minister has a lot more influence over the foreign policy of the United States in the Middle East than he has in his own country."
-- Former Congressman Paul Findley, in his book They Dare to Speak Out, p. 92.
"The Israelis control the policy in the congress and the senate ... somewhere around 80 percent of the senate of the United States is completely in support of Israel -- of anything Israel wants...."
-- Chairman Senator Fullbright, 10/07/1973 on CBS' "Face the Nation".
"We have exhausted our requests. President Clinton has answered all our needs. There has been no American president in history like President Clinton, in his support of Israel and the Jewish people."
-- Shimon Peres (From Washington Report, July 1996, pg. 17)
" resident Clinton behaves like an obedient child of Israel and does not know how to say `No.'"
-- Nahum Barnea, Israeli writer (From Washington Report, July 1996, pg. 17)
"There is definitely an anti-Arab bias in America, and I regret it"
-- Peter Jennings cited in Alfred Lilienthal's 1982 Zionist Connections II, p.273, citing Edmund Ghareeb, The American Media and the Palestine Problem, Journal of Palestine Studies, Autumn 1975, Winter 1976.
"The Capitol Hill is an Israeli occupied territory".
-- Patrick Buchanan (St. Louis Dispatch, 10/20/1990).
"I am aware how almost impossible it is in this country to carry out a foreign policy [in the Middle East] not approved by the Jews. [Former Secretary of State George] Marshall and [former Defense Secretary James] Forrestral learned that"
-- Sec. of State John Foster Dulles in Feb. 1957 quoted on p.99 of Fallen Pillars by Donald Neff
"... terrific control the Jews have over the news media and the barrage the Jews have built up on congressmen .... I am very much concerned over the fact that the Jewish influence here is completely dominating the scene and making it almost impossible to get congress to do anything they don't approve of. The Israeli embassy is practically dictating to the congress through influential Jewish people in the country"
-- Sec. of State John Foster Dulles in Feb. 1957 quoted on p.99 of Fallen Pillars by Donald Neff
"I know I was elected by the votes of American Jews. I owe them my victory. Tell me, is there something I ought to do?"
-- U.S. President John F. Kennedy speaking privately to Ben-Gurion (p.90 A & L Cockburn 1991).
"The little Knesset"-
- Sec. of state James Baker describing pro-Israel Congressmen, quoted in the Web Page of the Zionist Organization of America, which, in turn, quotes the Los Angeles Times (March 7, 1992)
"I do not think I ever had as much pressure and propaganda aimed at the White House as I had in this instance"
-- U.S. President Harry Truman writing in his memoirs about the Zionist pressure to support the partition of Palestine.
We must continue to educate our people on this vital point. The most important issue of our time is the Jewish supremacy over our media, our government, our economy, our culture, our future. They are leading us to utter ruin. It is not just Palestine that is occupied by Jewish supremacists; it is New York and Washington D.C. It is not just the West Bank of the river Jordan they occupy; it is the East Bank of the Potomac! I told you that the main difference between the West Bank Palestinians and the Average American, is that the average American does know that his nation is occupied.
Once we have absorbed and understood the fact of Jewish media control, it is our inescapable responsibility to do whatever is necessary to break that control. We must shrink from nothing in combating this evil power that has fastened its deadly grip on our people and is injecting its lethal poison into their minds and souls. If we fail to destroy it, it certainly will destroy our nation.
Let us begin now to acquire knowledge and to take action toward this necessary end.
Israel has time and again proven it is not really our friend. It has conducted covert terrorist activities against America such as the Lavon affair in Egypt. It has deliberately attacked the USS Liberty with unmarked fighters and torpedo boats causing 174 American casualties in an attempt to blame Egypt and garner American support during the war of 1967. It has spied on us and stolen our greatest secrets, such as in the Jonathan Pollard affair. It has sold secret American technologies to the Communist Chinese. It has stolen nucleur materials from the United States. It has tricked America into bombing other nations such as in the attack on Libya in 1986. I could go on and on about Israel's treachery against the America.
We must cut off the source of terrorism. That source is not Muslim fundamentalism, it is American support for Israeli genocide of the Palestinian people. The American government has been supporting the Jewish Supremacist State of Israeli with economic and military funding, though Israel denies the basic human rights of Palestinians. We believe that our economic and military aid to Israel has caused tremendous hatred toward America and that unlimitedly, it is the American people who suffers the consequences.
Ask fellow Americans when you're going to put a stop to the long distance support for a Mafioso of Zionist hit men.
When are you going to insist that the president and his men - Cheney, Wolfowitz, Perle, Wurmser, Feith, Cohen - all closer to Israel than they are to America - get prosecuted as members of an organized crime syndicate? Make no mistake: Zionism in America is organized crime!
When will you stop electing Senators and Representatives to Congress who can't resist the lure of Zionist support? They're nothing more than legislators who embrace the same organized crime syndicate.
When will you stop reading the **** written and published by the New York Times, the Washington Post and US News? When will you stop being influenced by the broadcasts of the Murdoch empire and Fox News?
When will you stop supporting organized Zionist crime and take America back from Israel for Americans?
more facts
Israel has a very powerful lobby in Washington and no one dares speak of big brother unless in praise or on bended knees. American taxpayers have been forced to hand over more than 120 billion dollars in foreign aid since 1960 and there is no end in sight, even while our domestic problems continue to mount. Our deficit and our national debt is at an all time high, our social security funds are about defunct, and now we need to close military installations to save money. Yet, you will never hear any person up on the hill suggest a reduction of aid to Israel. They know, that such a suggestion would disbar them from the cliques of political power.
The lobby that Israel and its supporters have built in the United States to make all this aid happen, and to ban discussion of it from the national dialogue, goes far beyond AIPAC(the american israel public affairs committee), with its $15 million budget, its 150 employees, and its five or six registered lobbyists who manage to visit every member of Congress individually once or twice a year.
AIPAC, in turn, can draw upon the resources of the Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations, a roof group set up solely to coordinate the efforts of some 52 national Jewish organizations on behalf of Israel.
Palestinians won't get their independence until Americans get theirs! -
Ariel Sharon:
"We control America"
"Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it."
- Israeli Prime Minister,Ariel Sharon, October 3, 2001.
"Israel controls the United States Senate."
- Sen.William Fulbright
"Hollywood is run by Jews. It is owned by Jews, and they should have a greater sensitivity about the issue of people who are suffering"
-- Actor Marlon Brando on Larry King Live 04/05/1996
"I've never seen a president --I don't care who he is-- stand up to them [the Israelis]. It just boggles your mind. They always get what they want. The Israelis know what's going on all the time. I got to the point where I wasn't writing anything down. If the American people understood what grip those people have on our government, they would rise up in arms. Our citizens don't have any idea what goes on."
-- Admiral Thomas Moorer of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. (See Washington Report 12/1999, p.124 quoting from Andrew Hurley's book, "One Nation Under Israel")
"The Israeli Prime Minister has a lot more influence over the foreign policy of the United States in the Middle East than he has in his own country."
-- Former Congressman Paul Findley, in his book They Dare to Speak Out, p. 92.
"The Israelis control the policy in the congress and the senate ... somewhere around 80 percent of the senate of the United States is completely in support of Israel -- of anything Israel wants...."
-- Chairman Senator Fullbright, 10/07/1973 on CBS' "Face the Nation".
"We have exhausted our requests. President Clinton has answered all our needs. There has been no American president in history like President Clinton, in his support of Israel and the Jewish people."
-- Shimon Peres (From Washington Report, July 1996, pg. 17)
" resident Clinton behaves like an obedient child of Israel and does not know how to say `No.'"
-- Nahum Barnea, Israeli writer (From Washington Report, July 1996, pg. 17)
"There is definitely an anti-Arab bias in America, and I regret it"
-- Peter Jennings cited in Alfred Lilienthal's 1982 Zionist Connections II, p.273, citing Edmund Ghareeb, The American Media and the Palestine Problem, Journal of Palestine Studies, Autumn 1975, Winter 1976.
"The Capitol Hill is an Israeli occupied territory".
-- Patrick Buchanan (St. Louis Dispatch, 10/20/1990).
"I am aware how almost impossible it is in this country to carry out a foreign policy [in the Middle East] not approved by the Jews. [Former Secretary of State George] Marshall and [former Defense Secretary James] Forrestral learned that"
-- Sec. of State John Foster Dulles in Feb. 1957 quoted on p.99 of Fallen Pillars by Donald Neff
"... terrific control the Jews have over the news media and the barrage the Jews have built up on congressmen .... I am very much concerned over the fact that the Jewish influence here is completely dominating the scene and making it almost impossible to get congress to do anything they don't approve of. The Israeli embassy is practically dictating to the congress through influential Jewish people in the country"
-- Sec. of State John Foster Dulles in Feb. 1957 quoted on p.99 of Fallen Pillars by Donald Neff
"I know I was elected by the votes of American Jews. I owe them my victory. Tell me, is there something I ought to do?"
-- U.S. President John F. Kennedy speaking privately to Ben-Gurion (p.90 A & L Cockburn 1991).
"The little Knesset"-
- Sec. of state James Baker describing pro-Israel Congressmen, quoted in the Web Page of the Zionist Organization of America, which, in turn, quotes the Los Angeles Times (March 7, 1992)
"I do not think I ever had as much pressure and propaganda aimed at the White House as I had in this instance"
-- U.S. President Harry Truman writing in his memoirs about the Zionist pressure to support the partition of Palestine.
We must continue to educate our people on this vital point. The most important issue of our time is the Jewish supremacy over our media, our government, our economy, our culture, our future. They are leading us to utter ruin. It is not just Palestine that is occupied by Jewish supremacists; it is New York and Washington D.C. It is not just the West Bank of the river Jordan they occupy; it is the East Bank of the Potomac! I told you that the main difference between the West Bank Palestinians and the Average American, is that the average American does know that his nation is occupied.
Once we have absorbed and understood the fact of Jewish media control, it is our inescapable responsibility to do whatever is necessary to break that control. We must shrink from nothing in combating this evil power that has fastened its deadly grip on our people and is injecting its lethal poison into their minds and souls. If we fail to destroy it, it certainly will destroy our nation.
Let us begin now to acquire knowledge and to take action toward this necessary end.
Israel has time and again proven it is not really our friend. It has conducted covert terrorist activities against America such as the Lavon affair in Egypt. It has deliberately attacked the USS Liberty with unmarked fighters and torpedo boats causing 174 American casualties in an attempt to blame Egypt and garner American support during the war of 1967. It has spied on us and stolen our greatest secrets, such as in the Jonathan Pollard affair. It has sold secret American technologies to the Communist Chinese. It has stolen nucleur materials from the United States. It has tricked America into bombing other nations such as in the attack on Libya in 1986. I could go on and on about Israel's treachery against the America.
We must cut off the source of terrorism. That source is not Muslim fundamentalism, it is American support for Israeli genocide of the Palestinian people. The American government has been supporting the Jewish Supremacist State of Israeli with economic and military funding, though Israel denies the basic human rights of Palestinians. We believe that our economic and military aid to Israel has caused tremendous hatred toward America and that unlimitedly, it is the American people who suffers the consequences.
Ask fellow Americans when you're going to put a stop to the long distance support for a Mafioso of Zionist hit men.
When are you going to insist that the president and his men - Cheney, Wolfowitz, Perle, Wurmser, Feith, Cohen - all closer to Israel than they are to America - get prosecuted as members of an organized crime syndicate? Make no mistake: Zionism in America is organized crime!
When will you stop electing Senators and Representatives to Congress who can't resist the lure of Zionist support? They're nothing more than legislators who embrace the same organized crime syndicate.
When will you stop reading the **** written and published by the New York Times, the Washington Post and US News? When will you stop being influenced by the broadcasts of the Murdoch empire and Fox News?
When will you stop supporting organized Zionist crime and take America back from Israel for Americans?
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****, you don't need to go to the Middle East to see it. You can see it right here in our our country. All you need to do is sympathize with the Palestinian cause and these Jewish zionists immediately label you as an "anti-Semite," a "hate-monger," a "neo-****." It doesn't matter how much these Palestinians suffer, as long as you criticize Israel, the Jewish media and all the zionist followers will attack you left and right. To them, the only victims are Jews who have suffered at the hands of Palestinian suicide bombers. They ignore the 5 times as many innocent people that they have killed with their american-made bombs and american-made missiles. They ignore the more than 500 children they have slaughtered. They ignore the more than 7 thousand homes of innocent Palestinians that have been demolished, or the land that has been stolen, or the olive orchards that have been uprooted, or total destruction of towns such as Jenin.
George Washington ( in Maxims of George Washington by A. A. Appleton & Co.) "They (the Jews) work more effectively against us, than the enemy's armies. They are a hundred times more dangerous to our liberties and the great cause we are engaged in... It is much to be lamented that each state, long ago, has not hunted them down as pest to society and the greatest enemies we have to the happiness of America."(George Washington)
Nine-eleven would not have occurred if the U.S. government had refused to help Israel humiliate and destroy Palestinian society. Few express this conclusion publicly, but many believe it is the truth. I believe the catastrophe could have been prevented if any U.S. president during the past 35 years had had the courage and wisdom to suspend all U.S. aid until Israel withdrew from the Arab land seized in the 1967 Arab-Israeli war. In its violent assaults on Palestinians, Israel uses the pretext of eradicating terrorism, but its forces are actually engaged advancing the territorial expansion just cited. Under the guise of anti-terrorism, Israeli forces treat Palestinians worse than cattle. With due process nowhere to be found, hundreds are detained for long periods and most are tortured. Some are assassinated. Homes, orchards, and business places are destroyed. Entire cities are kept under intermittent curfew, some confinements lasting for weeks.
When will you stop electing Senators and Representatives to Congress who can't resist the lure of Zionist support? They're nothing more than legislators who embrace the same organized crime syndicate.When will you stop reading the **** written and published by the New York Times, the Washington Post and US News? When will you stop being influenced by the broadcasts of the Murdoch empire and Fox News?When will you stop supporting organized Zionist crime and take America back from Israel for Americans?"If the people in Washington didn't have this double standard of always allowing Israel to get away with violating international law while punishing other nations that do, then maybe the United States wouldn't be in the mess it finds itself in today. Maybe the Muslim world, and for that matter, all other people around the world wouldn't hate us as much as they do.
The number one problem, political, economic, and social on this planet now is what we call Zionism and more specifically, Jewish supremacism. These radical, extremist Jewish elements such as Ariel Sharon, such as the neo-cons in Washington, believe this strange (idea) that they have a right to control the world - not just Palestine, not just Syria, Iraq, and Iran and the rest of the Middle East, but also London, New York, and Toronto. All over the world you see the same pattern of control over the media, the same pattern of influence
Traitors to the United States have allowed a terrorist foreign nation (israel) to control the United States government. that a foreign nation controls America
****, you don't need to go to the Middle East to see it. You can see it right here in our our country. All you need to do is sympathize with the Palestinian cause and these Jewish zionists immediately label you as an "anti-Semite," a "hate-monger," a "neo-****." It doesn't matter how much these Palestinians suffer, as long as you criticize Israel, the Jewish media and all the zionist followers will attack you left and right. To them, the only victims are Jews who have suffered at the hands of Palestinian suicide bombers. They ignore the 5 times as many innocent people that they have killed with their american-made bombs and american-made missiles. They ignore the more than 500 children they have slaughtered. They ignore the more than 7 thousand homes of innocent Palestinians that have been demolished, or the land that has been stolen, or the olive orchards that have been uprooted, or total destruction of towns such as Jenin.
George Washington ( in Maxims of George Washington by A. A. Appleton & Co.) "They (the Jews) work more effectively against us, than the enemy's armies. They are a hundred times more dangerous to our liberties and the great cause we are engaged in... It is much to be lamented that each state, long ago, has not hunted them down as pest to society and the greatest enemies we have to the happiness of America."(George Washington)
Nine-eleven would not have occurred if the U.S. government had refused to help Israel humiliate and destroy Palestinian society. Few express this conclusion publicly, but many believe it is the truth. I believe the catastrophe could have been prevented if any U.S. president during the past 35 years had had the courage and wisdom to suspend all U.S. aid until Israel withdrew from the Arab land seized in the 1967 Arab-Israeli war. In its violent assaults on Palestinians, Israel uses the pretext of eradicating terrorism, but its forces are actually engaged advancing the territorial expansion just cited. Under the guise of anti-terrorism, Israeli forces treat Palestinians worse than cattle. With due process nowhere to be found, hundreds are detained for long periods and most are tortured. Some are assassinated. Homes, orchards, and business places are destroyed. Entire cities are kept under intermittent curfew, some confinements lasting for weeks.
When will you stop electing Senators and Representatives to Congress who can't resist the lure of Zionist support? They're nothing more than legislators who embrace the same organized crime syndicate.When will you stop reading the **** written and published by the New York Times, the Washington Post and US News? When will you stop being influenced by the broadcasts of the Murdoch empire and Fox News?When will you stop supporting organized Zionist crime and take America back from Israel for Americans?"If the people in Washington didn't have this double standard of always allowing Israel to get away with violating international law while punishing other nations that do, then maybe the United States wouldn't be in the mess it finds itself in today. Maybe the Muslim world, and for that matter, all other people around the world wouldn't hate us as much as they do.
The number one problem, political, economic, and social on this planet now is what we call Zionism and more specifically, Jewish supremacism. These radical, extremist Jewish elements such as Ariel Sharon, such as the neo-cons in Washington, believe this strange (idea) that they have a right to control the world - not just Palestine, not just Syria, Iraq, and Iran and the rest of the Middle East, but also London, New York, and Toronto. All over the world you see the same pattern of control over the media, the same pattern of influence
Traitors to the United States have allowed a terrorist foreign nation (israel) to control the United States government. that a foreign nation controls America
The real reason we have suffered terrorism The real reason we have suffered the terrorism of the WTC attack is shockingly simple. Too many American politicians have treasonously betrayed the American people by blindly supporting the leading terrorist nation on earth: Israel.Traitors to the United States have allowed a terrorist foreign nation (israel) to control the United States government. that a foreign nation controls America's foreign policy. William Fulbright asserted on ABC's Face the Nation television program that