The Lack Of Character Inside The Democrat Party

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The Lack Of Character Inside The Democrat Party



All of this is very reminiscent of the 1996 Clinton fundraising scandal. A
total of 120 witnesses either fled the country, pleaded the Fifth Amendment
or otherwise were unavailable for questioning. In the end, a total of 14
people were found guilty on various charges relating to the scandal. No
wonder the Hillary Clinton campaign wants to change the subject away from
Mr. Hsu.
- John Fund

The more you look into Hillary Clinton's political past you get a glimpse
into her political future. A future filled with behind closed doors back
rubbing. Just as Murtha was caught on tape telling a undercover officer
that he will accept a bribe in the future we have lots of evidence collected
over the years that HIllary Clinton is just as bad, if not worse. It was
only a few years ago that we were all introduced to one Peter Paul:

The Justice Department says it has evidence that Hillary Clinton's 2000
campaign for the U.S. Senate deliberately low-balled costs associated with a
fund-raising event in an apparent attempt to free up more money for
electioneering.

Peter Paul, a three-time felon currently under indictment for stock fraud
charges in New York, claims he underwrote most of the cost of the August
2000 star-studded Hollywood gala. Prosecutors say he did so in hopes of
securing a presidential pardon that never came. Mr. Paul and the Clintons
have denied the allegation. Clinton's campaign denies any fund-raising
chicanery.

In a second matter, the Clintons have filed an appeal with the California
Supreme Court in an attempt to stop a lawsuit filed by Paul. Acting on Paul's
behalf, Judicial Watch contends Mr. Clinton reneged on a $17 million deal to
work for two Paul Internet companies.

The lawsuit says none of Paul's expenses - $2 million he spent to put on
the Hollywood gala that also was part of the business deal - were reported
as required to the Federal Election Commission.

Now take a look at this excellent timeline of the Peter Paul story done by
DFU at FR last month and tell me this lady is not a out and out liar:

Feb. 2000 - Peter Paul is induced to support Hillary's 2000 Senate
campaign with the promise of access to Bill Clinton to be able to make a
proposal to come aboard Stan Lee Media as a rainmaker when he left the WH


June 9, 2000 - Paul pays for two Hillary Clinton fundraisers at Spago and
the home of Cynthia Gershman ... the costs are never declared by the
campaign (note: a previous fundraiser through Rendell for Al Gore, paid for
by Paul, was also never declared; Rendell also never declared a 150K stock
pledge) ... at the Spago lunch, Paul spent considerable time with Hillary
and discussed his plan for her husband's employment... see the 20/20 report
from 2001...Amazingly, in her declaration of 4-7-06, Hillary acts as if she
barely knew Peter Paul and claimed she couldn't remember anything they might
have said. Besides the email comments, Paul has video of her going on and on
about how Stan Lee was a genius for hiring Paul. She is really excited about
Paul's idea of a cartoon character of Al Gore, and she wants to talk to Tony
Coehlo and Terry McAuliffe about it. Her failure to remember is simply a
lie.


June 23, 2000 - Kelly Craighead (a White House employee, not part of any
joint funraising committee), Jim Levin, David Rosen (all agents of Hillary
and Bill) meet with Aaron Tonken (agent of Paul and fundraiser for Ed
Rendell) to originate the idea for a major fundraising event for Hillary as
part of the Aug. 14-20 DNC Convention in L.A.


July 11, 2000 - conference call between Peter Paul, Tonken, Craighead,
Wolfson, Levin, and Rosen in which Paul is solicited to pay for the
Hollywood Gala....he is asked to pay $525K, and it is expected that Cynthia
Gershman will pay a like amount....it was acknowledged by all that the
fundraiser would cost over a million dollars


July 17, 2000 - Paul films the SMOKING GUN VIDEO. This video was withheld
by an assistant US ATTY while investigations were proceeding. Hillary is
shown soliciting and coordinating the $1.6 mil in-kind, hard money donation.
Kelly Craighead kept her completely briefed and she offered any help she
could. David Kendall's claim that this was a joint fundraiser, and thus hard
money, won't fly. Craighead was a White House employee who solicited the
money on July 11. Hillary was part of closing the deal on July 17.


Aug. 12, 2000 - Hollywood Gala... it raises a million dollars for Hillary,
but it cost over a million dollars...Paul spent several hours with Bill
Clinton... here they are putting the final touches on the deal at the after
concert dinner... Look at all the photos of the gala... Hillary actually
said in her declaration of 4-7-06, "I remember Mr. Paul attending the
event..." How insulting was that? Actually, she spent hours near him and
publicly thanked him from the stage for all he did.


Aug 13 - Paul and his wife Andrea are at the home of Barbra Streisand for
Clinton Library donors...when Hillary sees Andrea, she runs over to her,
brings her over to Streisand, and introduces her as "the wife of the man who
funded last night's event...my new best friend"... Streisand's testimony
should be interesting... Chelsea came up to the table with Paul, Andrea,
Tendo Oto, Oto's interpreter Jonathon Rogers, Jim Levin, and Haim Saban.
Chelsea discussed for at least a half an hour how excited she and her
parents were about her dad coming to work for the creator of Spider Man...
Hillary sets up her daughter for perjury


Aug. 13 - Tendo Oto and SLM make their deal for Asian partnership - Oto
gives $5 mil and promises another $5-7 mil in November for the American
joint venture...On Aug. 12 he had paid $27K to attend the federal fundraiser
gala. Giving money was illegal. Attending was illegal. Since Oto had no
social security number to check out when he showed up at the event with his
camera crew, the Secret Service said no way. Clinton had the Secret Service
stand down, and Oto sat directly behind the president and first lady.


Aug 14 - Ed Rendell calls Peter Paul in a panic. Lloyd Grove is preparing
a story for the WASHPOST about Paul's felony record for "The Cuban Coffee
Caper" two decades previous when he was an international attorney in Miami.
Rendell tells Paul to deny he gave any money and just play along. Shortly
after the warning call, Grove called. Here is the callsheet from SLM,
certified by the government as evidence.


Aug 15 - Lloyd Grove writes the story in the WASHPOST about Paul's felony
past from two decades previous involving the Cuban Coffee Caper and
defrauding Fidel Castro of $8.7 million ... Howard Wolfson vows that they
would never take any money from Peter Paul


Aug 17 - Grove writes a second story about $2,000 given by Paul at Spago
.... Wolfson says they will return the money, and a check is immediately cut
and sent to Paul ... Wolfson actually admits that the gala cost a million
dollars but says it was in-kind and not a check. (Ummm, in-kind is hard
money, Howard)


Aug 18 - behind the scenes, while disavowing him in public, the Clintons
write personal notes to Paul, dated Aug 18, espressing their gratitude ...
Hillary: "We will remember it always"... Bill's note... Even Chelsea got
into the act.


Aug 24 - Campaign Finance Chairman David Rosen is directed to send a fax
to Paul asking for another $100,000 (actually, one of several faxes) ...
Hillary had promised the money for the Working Families Party in New York
.... Paul will send no more money until he hears it face to face from Bill
Clinton that they still have a deal (second document shows Gordon's
acknowledgement that it was "done")


Sept. 22, 2000 - Clinton steps off AF-1 in Los Angeles (we have photo) and
assures Paul that the deal is still a go ... Paul has Steven Gordon send a
stock transfer of $55K to the Working Families Party for Hillary... we can
find no evidence that they ever declared that donation. If the Clintons were
disavowing Paul in public, claimed he gave no money, and had no business
arrangement with the President as claimed by Hillary, why would the
President of the United States be meeting Paul in public as he stepped off
AF-1? For what possible purpose? That's not hard to figure out, is it?


Nov 7 - Hillary is elected


Nov 13 - just six days after Hillary's election, an agreement for Venture
Soft USA Inc is recorded in Illinois between Jim Levin, Clinton's business
adviser, and Tendo Oto ... Levin was Clinton's "eyes and ears" in dealing
with Paul, got proprietary business information, and stole the Japanese
partner for their own deal


Dec 2000 - Stan Lee Media collapses ... the additional $5-7 million
promised in November from partner Tendo Oto was not received due to the
Clinton/Levin interference In Paul v Clinton, it will be proven that Oto's
money would have kept the company solvent until Clinton came aboard as he
had promised Peter Paul.


Early 2001 - Paul discovers that the campaign has filed two fraudulent FEC
reports, only reporting 366K for the cost of Event 39 ... he spent over a
million dollars on it


June 18, 2001 - Paul files initial lawsuit against the Clintons and
several others for business fraud


July 3 - Treasurer Andrew Grossman is served with the lawsuit that
includes documentation for $1.6 million spent by Paul


July 11 - David Kendall accepts service for Hillary along with the $1.6
million documented expenses


July 18 - press conference at National Press Club . Paul has messenger
hand deliver a demand letter to Hillary's senate office


July 30 - despite Paul's demand and all of the documentation, a third
false FEC report is filed ... this time they declare $401K for Event 39 ...
still no mention of Paul as the real donor


Jan 2005 - criminal indictment of David Rosen is unsealed



May 2005 - Rosen acquitted in criminal trial in Los Angeles...the perjury
in this trial was astounding...the judge and prosecutor went out of their
way to condemn Paul and claim that Hillary had nothing to do with it is also
astounding... FBI affidavit during the trial documenting $1.2 mil from Paul
that was not declared. The prosecution does not call Paul, Aaron Tonken, or
key witness Kelly Craighead (Craighead was also never called by the FEC -
she will be a key witness in Paul v Clinton).... The prosecution does not
use damaging evidence against Rosen obtained while Ray Reggie (brother in
law of Ted Kennedy) was wearing a wire. In Tonken's book, KING OF CONS, he
tells how he sat in a van with Hillary detailing all of the money that was
being spent on her.



Dec 2005 - FEC determines that the campaign deliberately underreported
$721,000, fines the campaign a mere $35,000, and orders a new
filing...treasurer Andrew Grossman signs conciliation agreement with the
FEC, the equivalent of a nolo contendre plea


Jan 2006 - the fourth fraudulent FEC report is filed ... among the
problems are Stan Lee (whom we have on tape in a deposition swearing that he
gave no money) is credited with a 225K donation and Paul is still never
named personally as the donor as he has demanded


April 7, 2006 - Hillary removed as defendant but judge made clear to
Kendall that she would be testifying ... the declaration turned into the
court by Kendall for Hillary can only be described as a work of fiction ...
no reporters attended the hearing and not one mainstream media source wrote
that a trial date had been set for defendant Bill Clinton (trial date
postponed until appeal is hear to bring Hillary back in as a defendant) ...
Chelsea will be one of the witnesses called ... although her mom claims no
knowledge of the business deal, if Chelsea testifies honestly, she will tell
how the family stayed up late after the gala playing scrabble and discussing
the excitement of daddy going to work for the creator of Spiderman ... from
a private fundraiser at Zev Braun's house in early 2000, Paul has home video
of Hillary laughing and discussing with him how he had arranged in 1993 for
Fabio to chase her around the room and pick her up in a romance pose...the
president referenced that event the next year at the Italian-American
Foundation Dinner.... her declaration claiming that she met Paul in early
2000 is simply a lie


June 2006 - Senate Ethics Committee announces it will not investigate
Hillary and simply relies on the flawed FEC procedure ... subsequently, they
refuse Paul's offer to appear and testity


Oct. 18, 2006 - new demand letter for return of over a million dollars is
delivered to Hillary's DC office with copy delivered to Sen. Voinovich,
chair of the Senate Ethics Committee


Jan. 10, 2007 - Paul counsel files Appellate Brief to bring Hillary back
into the case as a defendant (that delays the trial date for Bill, set for
March 27, 2007...it also delays depositions)....no mainstream media source
had reported that defendant Bill Clinton had a trial date in a case
involving the collapse of Spiderman Stan Lee's company)


April 2007 - after a two-year battle for the return of evidence, including
home videos, an assistant US atty provides Paul with a list of items they
will return to him.....included was the "smoking gun video": July 17,
5-minute conference call, Hillary Clinton..... when the numerous pieces of
evidence were finally sent, the shipment did not include that
video.....Paul's counsel argues vehemently for that to be sent....Paul
believes that a low-level functionary screwed up by putting that piece of
evidence on the manifest -- Hillary never thought it would see the light of
day...that video was finally sent because they could not deny its possession


June 20, 2007 - look at this page under "Latest Filings" for June 20
briefs and declarations


July 27, 2007 - court notification that oral arguments are set for Sept. 7
before the California Court of Appeals.... a decision on whether Hillary is
brought back in as a defendant is expected within 10 days thereafter....
then, it is time for depositions.... if David Kendall loses, he may appeal
to the California Supreme Court.....that court had earlier refused to hear
the argument about removal of Bill Clinton from the case.... Kendall may be
able to delay it for a short time, but depositions are expected to begin
this year

Getting Hillary under oath would be a coup but I'm pessimistic this will
happen. She knows she has been lying about Peter Paul, about Hsu, about the
1996 fundraising story. Hell, in the complaint filed by Peter Paul, James
Levin, the top fund-raiser for the Clintons, admits that lying by Hillary
was a "media strategy":

When Plaintiff (Peter Paul) asked Levin why Mrs. Clinton's campaign had
denied that Plaintiff had underwritten and served as executive producer of
the Hollywood Tribute, Levin represented to Plaintiff that the denial was
simply a media strategy chosen by Mrs. Clinton's U.S. Senate campaign and
that Plaintiff should go along with the campaign's media strategy by
remaining silent about his role in the event.
She is a disgrace to all of politics but she isn't stupid. No way in hell
she goes under oath.


Sen. Clinton's illegal actions, as captured on this video, violated the
following US Statutes:


2 U.S.C. Sec 441a (a)(7)(B)(I) provides:
Expenditures made by any person in cooperation, consultation, or concert,
with, or at the request or suggestion of, a candidate, his authorized
political committees, or their agents, shall be considered to be a
contribution to such candidate. (Therefore Peter Paul's expenditures cannot
be deemed to be a "soft money" contribution)

(f) No candidate shall knowingly accept any contribution in violation of
the provisions of this section...

(a)(1)(A) No person shall make contributions... to any candidate with
respect to any election for Federal office which, in the aggregate, exceed
$2,000.

2 U.S.C. Sec 437g(d)(1)(A)(I) provides:

Any person who knowingly and willfully commits a violation of any
provision of this act which involves the making, receiving, or reporting of
any contribution, donation, or expenditure (I) aggregating $25,000 or more
during a calendar year shall be fined under Title 18, or imprisoned for not
more than 5 years, or both...

Every month we are treated to a new fundraising scandal by Hillary:


A Pakistani immigrant is wanted by federal authorities on charges he
channeled $30,000 in illegal contributions to Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's
presidential war chest.

The FBI is hunting Los Angeles businessman Abdul Rehman Jinnah, who
vanished soon after his grand-jury indictment for violating federal election
laws last May.

Clinton's camp has denied any knowledge of Jinnah's scheme, which is also
alleged to have funneled more than $50,000 in illegal donations to the
political action committees of Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.), the Los
Angeles Times reported yesterday. "

Deny deny and deny some more. But when does this mountain of evidence put a
dent into her popularity with the Democrat party? Never.

The thing is that they just don't care. As long as a Democrat is in power
the left cares little about the President's character. Bill Clinton commits
adultery and lies under oath....don't matter. He is still treated like a
king by the left. Hillary Clinton caught over and over and over again
taking scandalous donations, and then lying about them....doesn't matter.
She is the heir apparent.


Meanwhile just a hint of scandalous behavior by a Republican and they are
quickly thrown over the side of the ship. A small price to pay to ensure
that the Republican party stays the party of ethics, character, and a strong
moral fiber. While there will always be rotten politicians, the way the
party deals with their rotten apples provides the backbone for generations
to come.

And so far the Democrat party has no backbone.

--
"God bless the America we are trying to create."
Hillary Clinton
 
On Sep 3, 7:28 am, "Harry Dope" <H...@aol.com> wrote:
> The Lack Of Character Inside The Democrat Party


You know, Harry here reminds me of all that is wrong with the
Republicans.

The "Grand Old Party" really ought to be renamed to the Grand Ostrich
Party.
They are so very good at sticking their heads in the sand and ignoring
everything
around them.

Global warming? No such thing.
Iraq? Everything is going great.
The economy is fabulous.
The mortgage system is doing great with a "few small easily fixable
problems".
The Republicans? They are wonderful, no problems there.

The party has become a caricature of itself, and I find that so very
sad.

Long live the Ostriches, I guess.

Matt
 
"Harry Dope" <HHHA@aol.com> allegedly said in
news:46dc0be3$0$6398$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:

> The Lack Of Character Inside The Democrat Party
>
>

BWAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH....

Abramoff, Nye, Cunningham, Foley, Vitter, Craig etc etc etc and counting...

And all you can come up with is some independent fund-raiser with a 15 year
old warrant and retreaded slime from the 90's???

rotfl...

The desperation of the reichtards is growing...
 
Matt wrote:
> On Sep 3, 7:28 am, "Harry Dope" <H...@aol.com> wrote:
>> The Lack Of Character Inside The Democrat Party

>
> You know, Harry here reminds me of all that is wrong with the
> Republicans.
>
> The "Grand Old Party" really ought to be renamed to the Grand Ostrich
> Party.
> They are so very good at sticking their heads in the sand and ignoring
> everything
> around them.
>
> Global warming? No such thing.
> Iraq? Everything is going great.
> The economy is fabulous.
> The mortgage system is doing great with a "few small easily fixable
> problems".


None of which has anything to do with Hillary Clinton's shady activities.
 
Amanda Williams wrote:

> Get used to it EMU .... Madame President Clinton.. has a nice ring to it doncha
> think ???


The first election of Bill Clinton was a shameful action, his reelection made
matters even worse. Bush's election at least brought some sort of honesty back
to the White House. If the American People are stupid enough to elect Hillary as
President, they will deserve the political disaster which will follow.
 
David Hartung wrote:
> Matt wrote:
>> On Sep 3, 7:28 am, "Harry Dope" <H...@aol.com> wrote:
>>> The Lack Of Character Inside The Democrat Party

>>
>> You know, Harry here reminds me of all that is wrong with the
>> Republicans.
>>
>> The "Grand Old Party" really ought to be renamed to the Grand Ostrich
>> Party.
>> They are so very good at sticking their heads in the sand and
>> ignoring everything
>> around them.
>>
>> Global warming? No such thing.
>> Iraq? Everything is going great.
>> The economy is fabulous.
>> The mortgage system is doing great with a "few small easily fixable
>> problems".

>
> None of which has anything to do with Hillary Clinton's shady
> activities.


The drum beat starts.

She's not the candidate
yet and the Republican
"Swift Boat" innuendos
and lies start!
 
David Hartung <dhart1ng@quixnet.net> allegedly said in
news:26-dnVMyxrRYgUHbnZ2dnUVZ_vDinZ2d@comcast.com:

> Amanda Williams wrote:
>
>> Get used to it EMU .... Madame President Clinton.. has a nice ring
>> to it doncha think ???

>
> The first election of Bill Clinton was a shameful action, his
> reelection made matters even worse. Bush's election at least brought
> some sort of honesty back to the White House. If the American People
> are stupid enough to elect Hillary as President, they will deserve the
> political disaster which will follow.
>


"Honesty" ???? !!!!!

rotflmao...

Really davey, I think you need to lay off the booze this early in the
morning.. seriously...

--
AW

<small but dangerous>
 
What sort of honesty did Busch bring?

Are you kidding me?


"David Hartung" <dhart1ng@quixnet.net> wrote in message
news:26-dnVMyxrRYgUHbnZ2dnUVZ_vDinZ2d@comcast.com...
> Amanda Williams wrote:
>
> > Get used to it EMU .... Madame President Clinton.. has a nice ring to

it doncha
> > think ???

>
> The first election of Bill Clinton was a shameful action, his reelection

made
> matters even worse. Bush's election at least brought some sort of honesty

back
> to the White House. If the American People are stupid enough to elect

Hillary as
> President, they will deserve the political disaster which will follow.
 
Bushies Behaving Badly
An illustrated guide to GOP scandals.

http://slate.com/id/2165783/


"Harry Dope" <HHHA@aol.com> wrote in message
news:46dc0be3$0$6398$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> The Lack Of Character Inside The Democrat Party
>
>
>
> All of this is very reminiscent of the 1996 Clinton fundraising scandal. A
> total of 120 witnesses either fled the country, pleaded the Fifth
> Amendment or otherwise were unavailable for questioning. In the end, a
> total of 14 people were found guilty on various charges relating to the
> scandal. No wonder the Hillary Clinton campaign wants to change the
> subject away from Mr. Hsu.
> - John Fund
>
> The more you look into Hillary Clinton's political past you get a glimpse
> into her political future. A future filled with behind closed doors back
> rubbing. Just as Murtha was caught on tape telling a undercover officer
> that he will accept a bribe in the future we have lots of evidence
> collected over the years that HIllary Clinton is just as bad, if not
> worse. It was only a few years ago that we were all introduced to one
> Peter Paul:
>
> The Justice Department says it has evidence that Hillary Clinton's 2000
> campaign for the U.S. Senate deliberately low-balled costs associated with
> a fund-raising event in an apparent attempt to free up more money for
> electioneering.
>
> Peter Paul, a three-time felon currently under indictment for stock fraud
> charges in New York, claims he underwrote most of the cost of the August
> 2000 star-studded Hollywood gala. Prosecutors say he did so in hopes of
> securing a presidential pardon that never came. Mr. Paul and the Clintons
> have denied the allegation. Clinton's campaign denies any fund-raising
> chicanery.
>
> In a second matter, the Clintons have filed an appeal with the California
> Supreme Court in an attempt to stop a lawsuit filed by Paul. Acting on
> Paul's behalf, Judicial Watch contends Mr. Clinton reneged on a $17
> million deal to work for two Paul Internet companies.
>
> The lawsuit says none of Paul's expenses - $2 million he spent to put on
> the Hollywood gala that also was part of the business deal - were reported
> as required to the Federal Election Commission.
>
> Now take a look at this excellent timeline of the Peter Paul story done by
> DFU at FR last month and tell me this lady is not a out and out liar:
>
> Feb. 2000 - Peter Paul is induced to support Hillary's 2000 Senate
> campaign with the promise of access to Bill Clinton to be able to make a
> proposal to come aboard Stan Lee Media as a rainmaker when he left the WH
>
>
> June 9, 2000 - Paul pays for two Hillary Clinton fundraisers at Spago and
> the home of Cynthia Gershman ... the costs are never declared by the
> campaign (note: a previous fundraiser through Rendell for Al Gore, paid
> for by Paul, was also never declared; Rendell also never declared a 150K
> stock pledge) ... at the Spago lunch, Paul spent considerable time with
> Hillary and discussed his plan for her husband's employment... see the
> 20/20 report from 2001...Amazingly, in her declaration of 4-7-06, Hillary
> acts as if she barely knew Peter Paul and claimed she couldn't remember
> anything they might have said. Besides the email comments, Paul has video
> of her going on and on about how Stan Lee was a genius for hiring Paul.
> She is really excited about Paul's idea of a cartoon character of Al Gore,
> and she wants to talk to Tony Coehlo and Terry McAuliffe about it. Her
> failure to remember is simply a lie.
>
>
> June 23, 2000 - Kelly Craighead (a White House employee, not part of any
> joint funraising committee), Jim Levin, David Rosen (all agents of Hillary
> and Bill) meet with Aaron Tonken (agent of Paul and fundraiser for Ed
> Rendell) to originate the idea for a major fundraising event for Hillary
> as part of the Aug. 14-20 DNC Convention in L.A.
>
>
> July 11, 2000 - conference call between Peter Paul, Tonken, Craighead,
> Wolfson, Levin, and Rosen in which Paul is solicited to pay for the
> Hollywood Gala....he is asked to pay $525K, and it is expected that
> Cynthia Gershman will pay a like amount....it was acknowledged by all that
> the fundraiser would cost over a million dollars
>
>
> July 17, 2000 - Paul films the SMOKING GUN VIDEO. This video was withheld
> by an assistant US ATTY while investigations were proceeding. Hillary is
> shown soliciting and coordinating the $1.6 mil in-kind, hard money
> donation. Kelly Craighead kept her completely briefed and she offered any
> help she could. David Kendall's claim that this was a joint fundraiser,
> and thus hard money, won't fly. Craighead was a White House employee who
> solicited the money on July 11. Hillary was part of closing the deal on
> July 17.
>
>
> Aug. 12, 2000 - Hollywood Gala... it raises a million dollars for
> Hillary, but it cost over a million dollars...Paul spent several hours
> with Bill Clinton... here they are putting the final touches on the deal
> at the after concert dinner... Look at all the photos of the gala...
> Hillary actually said in her declaration of 4-7-06, "I remember Mr. Paul
> attending the event..." How insulting was that? Actually, she spent hours
> near him and publicly thanked him from the stage for all he did.
>
>
> Aug 13 - Paul and his wife Andrea are at the home of Barbra Streisand for
> Clinton Library donors...when Hillary sees Andrea, she runs over to her,
> brings her over to Streisand, and introduces her as "the wife of the man
> who funded last night's event...my new best friend"... Streisand's
> testimony should be interesting... Chelsea came up to the table with Paul,
> Andrea, Tendo Oto, Oto's interpreter Jonathon Rogers, Jim Levin, and Haim
> Saban. Chelsea discussed for at least a half an hour how excited she and
> her parents were about her dad coming to work for the creator of Spider
> Man... Hillary sets up her daughter for perjury
>
>
> Aug. 13 - Tendo Oto and SLM make their deal for Asian partnership - Oto
> gives $5 mil and promises another $5-7 mil in November for the American
> joint venture...On Aug. 12 he had paid $27K to attend the federal
> fundraiser gala. Giving money was illegal. Attending was illegal. Since
> Oto had no social security number to check out when he showed up at the
> event with his camera crew, the Secret Service said no way. Clinton had
> the Secret Service stand down, and Oto sat directly behind the president
> and first lady.
>
>
> Aug 14 - Ed Rendell calls Peter Paul in a panic. Lloyd Grove is preparing
> a story for the WASHPOST about Paul's felony record for "The Cuban Coffee
> Caper" two decades previous when he was an international attorney in
> Miami. Rendell tells Paul to deny he gave any money and just play along.
> Shortly after the warning call, Grove called. Here is the callsheet from
> SLM, certified by the government as evidence.
>
>
> Aug 15 - Lloyd Grove writes the story in the WASHPOST about Paul's felony
> past from two decades previous involving the Cuban Coffee Caper and
> defrauding Fidel Castro of $8.7 million ... Howard Wolfson vows that they
> would never take any money from Peter Paul
>
>
> Aug 17 - Grove writes a second story about $2,000 given by Paul at Spago
> ... Wolfson says they will return the money, and a check is immediately
> cut and sent to Paul ... Wolfson actually admits that the gala cost a
> million dollars but says it was in-kind and not a check. (Ummm, in-kind is
> hard money, Howard)
>
>
> Aug 18 - behind the scenes, while disavowing him in public, the Clintons
> write personal notes to Paul, dated Aug 18, espressing their gratitude ...
> Hillary: "We will remember it always"... Bill's note... Even Chelsea got
> into the act.
>
>
> Aug 24 - Campaign Finance Chairman David Rosen is directed to send a fax
> to Paul asking for another $100,000 (actually, one of several faxes) ...
> Hillary had promised the money for the Working Families Party in New York
> ... Paul will send no more money until he hears it face to face from Bill
> Clinton that they still have a deal (second document shows Gordon's
> acknowledgement that it was "done")
>
>
> Sept. 22, 2000 - Clinton steps off AF-1 in Los Angeles (we have photo)
> and assures Paul that the deal is still a go ... Paul has Steven Gordon
> send a stock transfer of $55K to the Working Families Party for Hillary...
> we can find no evidence that they ever declared that donation. If the
> Clintons were disavowing Paul in public, claimed he gave no money, and had
> no business arrangement with the President as claimed by Hillary, why
> would the President of the United States be meeting Paul in public as he
> stepped off AF-1? For what possible purpose? That's not hard to figure
> out, is it?
>
>
> Nov 7 - Hillary is elected
>
>
> Nov 13 - just six days after Hillary's election, an agreement for Venture
> Soft USA Inc is recorded in Illinois between Jim Levin, Clinton's business
> adviser, and Tendo Oto ... Levin was Clinton's "eyes and ears" in dealing
> with Paul, got proprietary business information, and stole the Japanese
> partner for their own deal
>
>
> Dec 2000 - Stan Lee Media collapses ... the additional $5-7 million
> promised in November from partner Tendo Oto was not received due to the
> Clinton/Levin interference In Paul v Clinton, it will be proven that Oto's
> money would have kept the company solvent until Clinton came aboard as he
> had promised Peter Paul.
>
>
> Early 2001 - Paul discovers that the campaign has filed two fraudulent
> FEC reports, only reporting 366K for the cost of Event 39 ... he spent
> over a million dollars on it
>
>
> June 18, 2001 - Paul files initial lawsuit against the Clintons and
> several others for business fraud
>
>
> July 3 - Treasurer Andrew Grossman is served with the lawsuit that
> includes documentation for $1.6 million spent by Paul
>
>
> July 11 - David Kendall accepts service for Hillary along with the $1.6
> million documented expenses
>
>
> July 18 - press conference at National Press Club . Paul has messenger
> hand deliver a demand letter to Hillary's senate office
>
>
> July 30 - despite Paul's demand and all of the documentation, a third
> false FEC report is filed ... this time they declare $401K for Event 39
> ... still no mention of Paul as the real donor
>
>
> Jan 2005 - criminal indictment of David Rosen is unsealed
>
>
>
> May 2005 - Rosen acquitted in criminal trial in Los Angeles...the perjury
> in this trial was astounding...the judge and prosecutor went out of their
> way to condemn Paul and claim that Hillary had nothing to do with it is
> also astounding... FBI affidavit during the trial documenting $1.2 mil
> from Paul that was not declared. The prosecution does not call Paul, Aaron
> Tonken, or key witness Kelly Craighead (Craighead was also never called by
> the FEC - she will be a key witness in Paul v Clinton).... The prosecution
> does not use damaging evidence against Rosen obtained while Ray Reggie
> (brother in law of Ted Kennedy) was wearing a wire. In Tonken's book, KING
> OF CONS, he tells how he sat in a van with Hillary detailing all of the
> money that was being spent on her.
>
>
>
> Dec 2005 - FEC determines that the campaign deliberately underreported
> $721,000, fines the campaign a mere $35,000, and orders a new
> filing...treasurer Andrew Grossman signs conciliation agreement with the
> FEC, the equivalent of a nolo contendre plea
>
>
> Jan 2006 - the fourth fraudulent FEC report is filed ... among the
> problems are Stan Lee (whom we have on tape in a deposition swearing that
> he gave no money) is credited with a 225K donation and Paul is still never
> named personally as the donor as he has demanded
>
>
> April 7, 2006 - Hillary removed as defendant but judge made clear to
> Kendall that she would be testifying ... the declaration turned into the
> court by Kendall for Hillary can only be described as a work of fiction
> ... no reporters attended the hearing and not one mainstream media source
> wrote that a trial date had been set for defendant Bill Clinton (trial
> date postponed until appeal is hear to bring Hillary back in as a
> defendant) ... Chelsea will be one of the witnesses called ... although
> her mom claims no knowledge of the business deal, if Chelsea testifies
> honestly, she will tell how the family stayed up late after the gala
> playing scrabble and discussing the excitement of daddy going to work for
> the creator of Spiderman ... from a private fundraiser at Zev Braun's
> house in early 2000, Paul has home video of Hillary laughing and
> discussing with him how he had arranged in 1993 for Fabio to chase her
> around the room and pick her up in a romance pose...the president
> referenced that event the next year at the Italian-American Foundation
> Dinner.... her declaration claiming that she met Paul in early 2000 is
> simply a lie
>
>
> June 2006 - Senate Ethics Committee announces it will not investigate
> Hillary and simply relies on the flawed FEC procedure ... subsequently,
> they refuse Paul's offer to appear and testity
>
>
> Oct. 18, 2006 - new demand letter for return of over a million dollars is
> delivered to Hillary's DC office with copy delivered to Sen. Voinovich,
> chair of the Senate Ethics Committee
>
>
> Jan. 10, 2007 - Paul counsel files Appellate Brief to bring Hillary back
> into the case as a defendant (that delays the trial date for Bill, set for
> March 27, 2007...it also delays depositions)....no mainstream media source
> had reported that defendant Bill Clinton had a trial date in a case
> involving the collapse of Spiderman Stan Lee's company)
>
>
> April 2007 - after a two-year battle for the return of evidence,
> including home videos, an assistant US atty provides Paul with a list of
> items they will return to him.....included was the "smoking gun video":
> July 17, 5-minute conference call, Hillary Clinton..... when the numerous
> pieces of evidence were finally sent, the shipment did not include that
> video.....Paul's counsel argues vehemently for that to be sent....Paul
> believes that a low-level functionary screwed up by putting that piece of
> evidence on the manifest -- Hillary never thought it would see the light
> of day...that video was finally sent because they could not deny its
> possession
>
>
> June 20, 2007 - look at this page under "Latest Filings" for June 20
> briefs and declarations
>
>
> July 27, 2007 - court notification that oral arguments are set for Sept.
> 7 before the California Court of Appeals.... a decision on whether Hillary
> is brought back in as a defendant is expected within 10 days
> thereafter.... then, it is time for depositions.... if David Kendall
> loses, he may appeal to the California Supreme Court.....that court had
> earlier refused to hear the argument about removal of Bill Clinton from
> the case.... Kendall may be able to delay it for a short time, but
> depositions are expected to begin this year
>
> Getting Hillary under oath would be a coup but I'm pessimistic this will
> happen. She knows she has been lying about Peter Paul, about Hsu, about
> the 1996 fundraising story. Hell, in the complaint filed by Peter Paul,
> James Levin, the top fund-raiser for the Clintons, admits that lying by
> Hillary was a "media strategy":
>
> When Plaintiff (Peter Paul) asked Levin why Mrs. Clinton's campaign had
> denied that Plaintiff had underwritten and served as executive producer of
> the Hollywood Tribute, Levin represented to Plaintiff that the denial was
> simply a media strategy chosen by Mrs. Clinton's U.S. Senate campaign and
> that Plaintiff should go along with the campaign's media strategy by
> remaining silent about his role in the event.
> She is a disgrace to all of politics but she isn't stupid. No way in hell
> she goes under oath.
>
>
> Sen. Clinton's illegal actions, as captured on this video, violated the
> following US Statutes:
>
>
> 2 U.S.C. Sec 441a (a)(7)(B)(I) provides:
> Expenditures made by any person in cooperation, consultation, or concert,
> with, or at the request or suggestion of, a candidate, his authorized
> political committees, or their agents, shall be considered to be a
> contribution to such candidate. (Therefore Peter Paul's expenditures
> cannot be deemed to be a "soft money" contribution)
>
> (f) No candidate shall knowingly accept any contribution in violation of
> the provisions of this section...
>
> (a)(1)(A) No person shall make contributions... to any candidate with
> respect to any election for Federal office which, in the aggregate, exceed
> $2,000.
>
> 2 U.S.C. Sec 437g(d)(1)(A)(I) provides:
>
> Any person who knowingly and willfully commits a violation of any
> provision of this act which involves the making, receiving, or reporting
> of any contribution, donation, or expenditure (I) aggregating $25,000 or
> more during a calendar year shall be fined under Title 18, or imprisoned
> for not more than 5 years, or both...
>
> Every month we are treated to a new fundraising scandal by Hillary:
>
>
> A Pakistani immigrant is wanted by federal authorities on charges he
> channeled $30,000 in illegal contributions to Sen. Hillary Rodham
> Clinton's presidential war chest.
>
> The FBI is hunting Los Angeles businessman Abdul Rehman Jinnah, who
> vanished soon after his grand-jury indictment for violating federal
> election laws last May.
>
> Clinton's camp has denied any knowledge of Jinnah's scheme, which is also
> alleged to have funneled more than $50,000 in illegal donations to the
> political action committees of Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.), the Los
> Angeles Times reported yesterday. "
>
> Deny deny and deny some more. But when does this mountain of evidence put
> a dent into her popularity with the Democrat party? Never.
>
> The thing is that they just don't care. As long as a Democrat is in power
> the left cares little about the President's character. Bill Clinton
> commits adultery and lies under oath....don't matter. He is still treated
> like a king by the left. Hillary Clinton caught over and over and over
> again taking scandalous donations, and then lying about them....doesn't
> matter. She is the heir apparent.
>
>
> Meanwhile just a hint of scandalous behavior by a Republican and they are
> quickly thrown over the side of the ship. A small price to pay to ensure
> that the Republican party stays the party of ethics, character, and a
> strong moral fiber. While there will always be rotten politicians, the
> way the party deals with their rotten apples provides the backbone for
> generations to come.
>
> And so far the Democrat party has no backbone.
>
> --
> "God bless the America we are trying to create."
> Hillary Clinton
>
 
Bushies Behaving Badly
An illustrated guide to GOP scandals.

http://slate.com/id/2165783/


"David Hartung" <dhart1ng@quixnet.net> wrote in message
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> Matt wrote:
>> On Sep 3, 7:28 am, "Harry Dope" <H...@aol.com> wrote:
>>> The Lack Of Character Inside The Democrat Party

>>
>> You know, Harry here reminds me of all that is wrong with the
>> Republicans.
>>
>> The "Grand Old Party" really ought to be renamed to the Grand Ostrich
>> Party.
>> They are so very good at sticking their heads in the sand and ignoring
>> everything
>> around them.
>>
>> Global warming? No such thing.
>> Iraq? Everything is going great.
>> The economy is fabulous.
>> The mortgage system is doing great with a "few small easily fixable
>> problems".

>
> None of which has anything to do with Hillary Clinton's shady activities.
 
"David Hartung" <dhart1ng@quixnet.net> wrote in message
news:26-dnVMyxrRYgUHbnZ2dnUVZ_vDinZ2d@comcast.com...
> Amanda Williams wrote:
>
>> Get used to it EMU .... Madame President Clinton.. has a nice ring to it
>> doncha think ???

>
> The first election of Bill Clinton was a shameful action, his reelection
> made matters even worse. Bush's election at least brought some sort of
> honesty back to the White House.


That's it! I can't handle stupidity so blatant. You're out of here Hartdung
you stupid tearoom ****sucker!

PLONK!
 
Al Gonzalies wrote:
> "David Hartung" <dhart1ng@quixnet.net> wrote in message
> news:26-dnVMyxrRYgUHbnZ2dnUVZ_vDinZ2d@comcast.com...
>> Amanda Williams wrote:
>>
>>> Get used to it EMU .... Madame President Clinton.. has a nice ring to it
>>> doncha think ???

>> The first election of Bill Clinton was a shameful action, his reelection
>> made matters even worse. Bush's election at least brought some sort of
>> honesty back to the White House.

>
> That's it! I can't handle stupidity so blatant. You're out of here Hartdung
> you stupid tearoom ****sucker!


no great loss.
 
"David Hartung" <dhart1ng@quixnet.net> wrote in message
news:26-dnVMyxrRYgUHbnZ2dnUVZ_vDinZ2d@comcast.com...
> Amanda Williams wrote:
>
>> Get used to it EMU .... Madame President Clinton.. has a nice ring to it
>> doncha think ???

>
> The first election of Bill Clinton was a shameful action, his reelection
> made matters even worse. Bush's election at least brought some sort of
> honesty back to the White House. If the American People are stupid enough
> to elect Hillary as President, they will deserve the political disaster
> which will follow.


Oh my ****ing lord...you just attributed honesty with George W. Bush. And I
think you really meant it...

I concur with my fellow posters...
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!

The sheer desperation of you neocons is just delicious.

turk
--
To argue with a man who has renounced his reason is like giving medicine to
the dead.
-- Thomas Paine
 
"David Hartung" <dhart1ng@quixnet.net> wrote in message
news:F_WdnQ7Ji5IdukHbnZ2dnUVZ_hOdnZ2d@comcast.com...
> Al Gonzalies wrote:
>> "David Hartung" <dhart1ng@quixnet.net> wrote in message
>> news:26-dnVMyxrRYgUHbnZ2dnUVZ_vDinZ2d@comcast.com...
>>> Amanda Williams wrote:
>>>
>>>> Get used to it EMU .... Madame President Clinton.. has a nice ring to
>>>> it doncha think ???
>>> The first election of Bill Clinton was a shameful action, his reelection
>>> made matters even worse. Bush's election at least brought some sort of
>>> honesty back to the White House.

>>
>> That's it! I can't handle stupidity so blatant. You're out of here
>> Hartdung you stupid tearoom ****sucker!

>
> no great loss.


For him, no. Certainly not. Except for the hilarious claims you make.

Seriously? George W. Bush...honesty?!?!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Please, please don't post that again...I'll bust a kidney laughing so
hard...

turk
--
To argue with a man who has renounced his reason is like giving medicine to
the dead.
-- Thomas Paine
 
turk wrote:
> "David Hartung" <dhart1ng@quixnet.net> wrote in message
> news:F_WdnQ7Ji5IdukHbnZ2dnUVZ_hOdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> Al Gonzalies wrote:
>>> "David Hartung" <dhart1ng@quixnet.net> wrote in message
>>> news:26-dnVMyxrRYgUHbnZ2dnUVZ_vDinZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>> Amanda Williams wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Get used to it EMU .... Madame President Clinton.. has a nice ring to
>>>>> it doncha think ???
>>>> The first election of Bill Clinton was a shameful action, his reelection
>>>> made matters even worse. Bush's election at least brought some sort of
>>>> honesty back to the White House.
>>> That's it! I can't handle stupidity so blatant. You're out of here
>>> Hartdung you stupid tearoom ****sucker!

>> no great loss.

>
> For him, no. Certainly not. Except for the hilarious claims you make.
>
> Seriously? George W. Bush...honesty?!?!


In any comparison between Bill Clinton and George W Bush involving honesty and
personal ethics, Bush comes out on top.
 
"Harry Dope" <HHHA@aol.com> wrote in message
news:46dc0be3$0$6398$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> The Lack Of Character Inside The Democrat Party
>
>
>
> All of this is very reminiscent of the 1996 Clinton fundraising scandal. A
> total of 120 witnesses either fled the country, pleaded the Fifth

Amendment
> or otherwise were unavailable for questioning.


That's about on a par with a typical month for current and former members of
the the Bush Administration. Try harder.

> In the end, a total of 14
> people were found guilty on various charges relating to the scandal. No
> wonder the Hillary Clinton campaign wants to change the subject away from
> Mr. Hsu.
> - John Fund
>
> The more you look into Hillary Clinton's political past you get a glimpse
> into her political future. A future filled with behind closed doors back
> rubbing. Just as Murtha was caught on tape telling a undercover officer
> that he will accept a bribe in the future


What part of "not interested" indicates a willingness to break the law in
the future?

> we have lots of evidence collected
> over the years that HIllary Clinton is just as bad, if not worse.


If you have such evidence, PRODUCE it. If you don't have it, shut the ****
up about it.

> It was
> only a few years ago that we were all introduced to one Peter Paul:
>
> The Justice Department says it has evidence that Hillary Clinton's 2000
> campaign for the U.S. Senate deliberately low-balled costs associated with

a
> fund-raising event in an apparent attempt to free up more money for
> electioneering.


Cite? And a REAL one, if you please. Not some opinion piece from NewSmacks
or WorldNutDaily.

> Peter Paul, a three-time felon currently under indictment for stock

fraud
> charges in New York, claims he underwrote most of the cost of the August
> 2000 star-studded Hollywood gala. Prosecutors say he did so in hopes of
> securing a presidential pardon that never came. Mr. Paul and the Clintons
> have denied the allegation. Clinton's campaign denies any fund-raising
> chicanery.
>
> In a second matter, the Clintons have filed an appeal with the

California
> Supreme Court in an attempt to stop a lawsuit filed by Paul. Acting on

Paul's
> behalf, Judicial Watch contends Mr. Clinton reneged on a $17 million deal

to
> work for two Paul Internet companies.
>
> The lawsuit says none of Paul's expenses - $2 million he spent to put on
> the Hollywood gala that also was part of the business deal - were reported
> as required to the Federal Election Commission.
>
> Now take a look at this excellent timeline of the Peter Paul story done by
> DFU at FR last month and tell me this lady is not a out and out liar:
>
> Feb. 2000 - Peter Paul is induced to support Hillary's 2000 Senate
> campaign with the promise of access to Bill Clinton to be able to make a
> proposal to come aboard Stan Lee Media as a rainmaker when he left the WH
>
>
> June 9, 2000 - Paul pays for two Hillary Clinton fundraisers at Spago

and
> the home of Cynthia Gershman ... the costs are never declared by the
> campaign (note: a previous fundraiser through Rendell for Al Gore, paid

for
> by Paul, was also never declared; Rendell also never declared a 150K stock
> pledge) ... at the Spago lunch, Paul spent considerable time with Hillary
> and discussed his plan for her husband's employment... see the 20/20

report
> from 2001...Amazingly, in her declaration of 4-7-06, Hillary acts as if

she
> barely knew Peter Paul and claimed she couldn't remember anything they

might
> have said. Besides the email comments, Paul has video of her going on and

on
> about how Stan Lee was a genius for hiring Paul. She is really excited

about
> Paul's idea of a cartoon character of Al Gore, and she wants to talk to

Tony
> Coehlo and Terry McAuliffe about it. Her failure to remember is simply a
> lie.
>
>
> June 23, 2000 - Kelly Craighead (a White House employee, not part of any
> joint funraising committee), Jim Levin, David Rosen (all agents of Hillary
> and Bill) meet with Aaron Tonken (agent of Paul and fundraiser for Ed
> Rendell) to originate the idea for a major fundraising event for Hillary

as
> part of the Aug. 14-20 DNC Convention in L.A.
>
>
> July 11, 2000 - conference call between Peter Paul, Tonken, Craighead,
> Wolfson, Levin, and Rosen in which Paul is solicited to pay for the
> Hollywood Gala....he is asked to pay $525K, and it is expected that

Cynthia
> Gershman will pay a like amount....it was acknowledged by all that the
> fundraiser would cost over a million dollars
>
>
> July 17, 2000 - Paul films the SMOKING GUN VIDEO. This video was

withheld
> by an assistant US ATTY while investigations were proceeding. Hillary is
> shown soliciting and coordinating the $1.6 mil in-kind, hard money

donation.
> Kelly Craighead kept her completely briefed and she offered any help she
> could. David Kendall's claim that this was a joint fundraiser, and thus

hard
> money, won't fly. Craighead was a White House employee who solicited the
> money on July 11. Hillary was part of closing the deal on July 17.
>
>
> Aug. 12, 2000 - Hollywood Gala... it raises a million dollars for

Hillary,
> but it cost over a million dollars...Paul spent several hours with Bill
> Clinton... here they are putting the final touches on the deal at the

after
> concert dinner... Look at all the photos of the gala... Hillary actually
> said in her declaration of 4-7-06, "I remember Mr. Paul attending the
> event..." How insulting was that? Actually, she spent hours near him and
> publicly thanked him from the stage for all he did.
>
>
> Aug 13 - Paul and his wife Andrea are at the home of Barbra Streisand

for
> Clinton Library donors...when Hillary sees Andrea, she runs over to her,
> brings her over to Streisand, and introduces her as "the wife of the man

who
> funded last night's event...my new best friend"... Streisand's testimony
> should be interesting... Chelsea came up to the table with Paul, Andrea,
> Tendo Oto, Oto's interpreter Jonathon Rogers, Jim Levin, and Haim Saban.
> Chelsea discussed for at least a half an hour how excited she and her
> parents were about her dad coming to work for the creator of Spider Man...
> Hillary sets up her daughter for perjury
>
>
> Aug. 13 - Tendo Oto and SLM make their deal for Asian partnership - Oto
> gives $5 mil and promises another $5-7 mil in November for the American
> joint venture...On Aug. 12 he had paid $27K to attend the federal

fundraiser
> gala. Giving money was illegal. Attending was illegal. Since Oto had no
> social security number to check out when he showed up at the event with

his
> camera crew, the Secret Service said no way. Clinton had the Secret

Service
> stand down, and Oto sat directly behind the president and first lady.
>
>
> Aug 14 - Ed Rendell calls Peter Paul in a panic. Lloyd Grove is

preparing
> a story for the WASHPOST about Paul's felony record for "The Cuban Coffee
> Caper" two decades previous when he was an international attorney in

Miami.
> Rendell tells Paul to deny he gave any money and just play along. Shortly
> after the warning call, Grove called. Here is the callsheet from SLM,
> certified by the government as evidence.
>
>
> Aug 15 - Lloyd Grove writes the story in the WASHPOST about Paul's

felony
> past from two decades previous involving the Cuban Coffee Caper and
> defrauding Fidel Castro of $8.7 million ... Howard Wolfson vows that they
> would never take any money from Peter Paul
>
>
> Aug 17 - Grove writes a second story about $2,000 given by Paul at Spago
> ... Wolfson says they will return the money, and a check is immediately

cut
> and sent to Paul ... Wolfson actually admits that the gala cost a million
> dollars but says it was in-kind and not a check. (Ummm, in-kind is hard
> money, Howard)
>
>
> Aug 18 - behind the scenes, while disavowing him in public, the Clintons
> write personal notes to Paul, dated Aug 18, espressing their gratitude ...
> Hillary: "We will remember it always"... Bill's note... Even Chelsea got
> into the act.
>
>
> Aug 24 - Campaign Finance Chairman David Rosen is directed to send a fax
> to Paul asking for another $100,000 (actually, one of several faxes) ...
> Hillary had promised the money for the Working Families Party in New York
> ... Paul will send no more money until he hears it face to face from Bill
> Clinton that they still have a deal (second document shows Gordon's
> acknowledgement that it was "done")
>
>
> Sept. 22, 2000 - Clinton steps off AF-1 in Los Angeles (we have photo)

and
> assures Paul that the deal is still a go ... Paul has Steven Gordon send a
> stock transfer of $55K to the Working Families Party for Hillary... we can
> find no evidence that they ever declared that donation. If the Clintons

were
> disavowing Paul in public, claimed he gave no money, and had no business
> arrangement with the President as claimed by Hillary, why would the
> President of the United States be meeting Paul in public as he stepped off
> AF-1? For what possible purpose? That's not hard to figure out, is it?
>
>
> Nov 7 - Hillary is elected
>
>
> Nov 13 - just six days after Hillary's election, an agreement for

Venture
> Soft USA Inc is recorded in Illinois between Jim Levin, Clinton's business
> adviser, and Tendo Oto ... Levin was Clinton's "eyes and ears" in dealing
> with Paul, got proprietary business information, and stole the Japanese
> partner for their own deal
>
>
> Dec 2000 - Stan Lee Media collapses ... the additional $5-7 million
> promised in November from partner Tendo Oto was not received due to the
> Clinton/Levin interference In Paul v Clinton, it will be proven that Oto's
> money would have kept the company solvent until Clinton came aboard as he
> had promised Peter Paul.
>
>
> Early 2001 - Paul discovers that the campaign has filed two fraudulent

FEC
> reports, only reporting 366K for the cost of Event 39 ... he spent over a
> million dollars on it
>
>
> June 18, 2001 - Paul files initial lawsuit against the Clintons and
> several others for business fraud
>
>
> July 3 - Treasurer Andrew Grossman is served with the lawsuit that
> includes documentation for $1.6 million spent by Paul
>
>
> July 11 - David Kendall accepts service for Hillary along with the $1.6
> million documented expenses
>
>
> July 18 - press conference at National Press Club . Paul has messenger
> hand deliver a demand letter to Hillary's senate office
>
>
> July 30 - despite Paul's demand and all of the documentation, a third
> false FEC report is filed ... this time they declare $401K for Event 39

....
> still no mention of Paul as the real donor
>
>
> Jan 2005 - criminal indictment of David Rosen is unsealed
>
>
>
> May 2005 - Rosen acquitted in criminal trial in Los Angeles...the

perjury
> in this trial was astounding...the judge and prosecutor went out of their
> way to condemn Paul and claim that Hillary had nothing to do with it is

also
> astounding... FBI affidavit during the trial documenting $1.2 mil from

Paul
> that was not declared. The prosecution does not call Paul, Aaron Tonken,

or
> key witness Kelly Craighead (Craighead was also never called by the FEC -
> she will be a key witness in Paul v Clinton).... The prosecution does not
> use damaging evidence against Rosen obtained while Ray Reggie (brother in
> law of Ted Kennedy) was wearing a wire. In Tonken's book, KING OF CONS, he
> tells how he sat in a van with Hillary detailing all of the money that was
> being spent on her.
>
>
>
> Dec 2005 - FEC determines that the campaign deliberately underreported
> $721,000, fines the campaign a mere $35,000, and orders a new
> filing...treasurer Andrew Grossman signs conciliation agreement with the
> FEC, the equivalent of a nolo contendre plea
>
>
> Jan 2006 - the fourth fraudulent FEC report is filed ... among the
> problems are Stan Lee (whom we have on tape in a deposition swearing that

he
> gave no money) is credited with a 225K donation and Paul is still never
> named personally as the donor as he has demanded
>
>
> April 7, 2006 - Hillary removed as defendant but judge made clear to
> Kendall that she would be testifying ... the declaration turned into the
> court by Kendall for Hillary can only be described as a work of fiction

....
> no reporters attended the hearing and not one mainstream media source

wrote
> that a trial date had been set for defendant Bill Clinton (trial date
> postponed until appeal is hear to bring Hillary back in as a defendant)

....
> Chelsea will be one of the witnesses called ... although her mom claims no
> knowledge of the business deal, if Chelsea testifies honestly, she will

tell
> how the family stayed up late after the gala playing scrabble and

discussing
> the excitement of daddy going to work for the creator of Spiderman ...

from
> a private fundraiser at Zev Braun's house in early 2000, Paul has home

video
> of Hillary laughing and discussing with him how he had arranged in 1993

for
> Fabio to chase her around the room and pick her up in a romance pose...the
> president referenced that event the next year at the Italian-American
> Foundation Dinner.... her declaration claiming that she met Paul in early
> 2000 is simply a lie
>
>
> June 2006 - Senate Ethics Committee announces it will not investigate
> Hillary and simply relies on the flawed FEC procedure ... subsequently,

they
> refuse Paul's offer to appear and testity
>
>
> Oct. 18, 2006 - new demand letter for return of over a million dollars

is
> delivered to Hillary's DC office with copy delivered to Sen. Voinovich,
> chair of the Senate Ethics Committee
>
>
> Jan. 10, 2007 - Paul counsel files Appellate Brief to bring Hillary back
> into the case as a defendant (that delays the trial date for Bill, set for
> March 27, 2007...it also delays depositions)....no mainstream media source
> had reported that defendant Bill Clinton had a trial date in a case
> involving the collapse of Spiderman Stan Lee's company)
>
>
> April 2007 - after a two-year battle for the return of evidence,

including
> home videos, an assistant US atty provides Paul with a list of items they
> will return to him.....included was the "smoking gun video": July 17,
> 5-minute conference call, Hillary Clinton..... when the numerous pieces of
> evidence were finally sent, the shipment did not include that
> video.....Paul's counsel argues vehemently for that to be sent....Paul
> believes that a low-level functionary screwed up by putting that piece of
> evidence on the manifest -- Hillary never thought it would see the light

of
> day...that video was finally sent because they could not deny its

possession
>
>
> June 20, 2007 - look at this page under "Latest Filings" for June 20
> briefs and declarations
>
>
> July 27, 2007 - court notification that oral arguments are set for Sept.

7
> before the California Court of Appeals.... a decision on whether Hillary

is
> brought back in as a defendant is expected within 10 days thereafter....
> then, it is time for depositions.... if David Kendall loses, he may appeal
> to the California Supreme Court.....that court had earlier refused to hear
> the argument about removal of Bill Clinton from the case.... Kendall may

be
> able to delay it for a short time, but depositions are expected to begin
> this year
>
> Getting Hillary under oath would be a coup but I'm pessimistic this will
> happen. She knows she has been lying about Peter Paul, about Hsu, about

the
> 1996 fundraising story. Hell, in the complaint filed by Peter Paul,

James
> Levin, the top fund-raiser for the Clintons, admits that lying by Hillary
> was a "media strategy":
>
> When Plaintiff (Peter Paul) asked Levin why Mrs. Clinton's campaign had
> denied that Plaintiff had underwritten and served as executive producer of
> the Hollywood Tribute, Levin represented to Plaintiff that the denial was
> simply a media strategy chosen by Mrs. Clinton's U.S. Senate campaign and
> that Plaintiff should go along with the campaign's media strategy by
> remaining silent about his role in the event.
> She is a disgrace to all of politics but she isn't stupid. No way in hell
> she goes under oath.
>
>
> Sen. Clinton's illegal actions, as captured on this video, violated the
> following US Statutes:
>
>
> 2 U.S.C. Sec 441a (a)(7)(B)(I) provides:
> Expenditures made by any person in cooperation, consultation, or

concert,
> with, or at the request or suggestion of, a candidate, his authorized
> political committees, or their agents, shall be considered to be a
> contribution to such candidate. (Therefore Peter Paul's expenditures

cannot
> be deemed to be a "soft money" contribution)
>
> (f) No candidate shall knowingly accept any contribution in violation of
> the provisions of this section...
>
> (a)(1)(A) No person shall make contributions... to any candidate with
> respect to any election for Federal office which, in the aggregate, exceed
> $2,000.
>
> 2 U.S.C. Sec 437g(d)(1)(A)(I) provides:
>
> Any person who knowingly and willfully commits a violation of any
> provision of this act which involves the making, receiving, or reporting

of
> any contribution, donation, or expenditure (I) aggregating $25,000 or more
> during a calendar year shall be fined under Title 18, or imprisoned for

not
> more than 5 years, or both...
>
> Every month we are treated to a new fundraising scandal by Hillary:
>
>
> A Pakistani immigrant is wanted by federal authorities on charges he
> channeled $30,000 in illegal contributions to Sen. Hillary Rodham

Clinton's
> presidential war chest.
>
> The FBI is hunting Los Angeles businessman Abdul Rehman Jinnah, who
> vanished soon after his grand-jury indictment for violating federal

election
> laws last May.
>
> Clinton's camp has denied any knowledge of Jinnah's scheme, which is

also
> alleged to have funneled more than $50,000 in illegal donations to the
> political action committees of Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.), the Los
> Angeles Times reported yesterday. "
>
> Deny deny and deny some more. But when does this mountain of evidence put

a
> dent into her popularity with the Democrat party? Never.
>
> The thing is that they just don't care. As long as a Democrat is in power
> the left cares little about the President's character. Bill Clinton

commits
> adultery and lies under oath....don't matter. He is still treated like a
> king by the left. Hillary Clinton caught over and over and over again
> taking scandalous donations, and then lying about them....doesn't matter.
> She is the heir apparent.
>
>
> Meanwhile just a hint of scandalous behavior by a Republican and they are
> quickly thrown over the side of the ship. A small price to pay to ensure
> that the Republican party stays the party of ethics, character, and a

strong
> moral fiber. While there will always be rotten politicians, the way the
> party deals with their rotten apples provides the backbone for generations
> to come.
>
> And so far the Democrat party has no backbone.
>
> --
> "God bless the America we are trying to create."
> Hillary Clinton
>
>
 
On Sep 3, 8:37 am, David Hartung <dhart...@quixnet.net> wrote:
> Matt wrote:
> > On Sep 3, 7:28 am, "Harry Dope" <H...@aol.com> wrote:
> >> The Lack Of Character Inside The Democrat Party

>
> > You know, Harry here reminds me of all that is wrong with the
> > Republicans.

>
> > The "Grand Old Party" really ought to be renamed to the Grand Ostrich
> > Party.
> > They are so very good at sticking their heads in the sand and ignoring
> > everything
> > around them.

>
> > Global warming? No such thing.
> > Iraq? Everything is going great.
> > The economy is fabulous.
> > The mortgage system is doing great with a "few small easily fixable
> > problems".

>
> None of which has anything to do with Hillary Clinton's shady activities.



You don't think so? I think perhaps it does. I'll leave it up to you
to figure
it out, if you can get your head out of the sand.

Matt
 
On Sep 3, 6:42 am, Matt <matttel...@sprynet.com> wrote:
> On Sep 3, 7:28 am, "Harry Dope" <H...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > The Lack Of Character Inside The Democrat Party

..
> You know, Harry here reminds me of all that is wrong with the
> Republicans.

..
> The "Grand Old Party" really ought to be renamed to the Grand Ostrich
> Party.
> They are so very good at sticking their heads in the sand and ignoring
> everything around them.


And yet, you responded to a very real scandal in the Clinton camp by
listing dreary Daily Kos talking points against the Bush
Administration.

Ostrich, indeed.
 
"David Hartung" <dhart1ng@quixnet.net> wrote in message
news:26-dnVAyxrSKgUHbnZ2dnUVZ_vDinZ2d@comcast.com...
> Matt wrote:
> > On Sep 3, 7:28 am, "Harry Dope" <H...@aol.com> wrote:
> >> The Lack Of Character Inside The Democrat Party

> >
> > You know, Harry here reminds me of all that is wrong with the
> > Republicans.
> >
> > The "Grand Old Party" really ought to be renamed to the Grand Ostrich
> > Party.
> > They are so very good at sticking their heads in the sand and ignoring
> > everything
> > around them.
> >
> > Global warming? No such thing.
> > Iraq? Everything is going great.
> > The economy is fabulous.
> > The mortgage system is doing great with a "few small easily fixable
> > problems".

>
> None of which has anything to do with Hillary Clinton's shady activities.


I'll take Hillary's "shady" activities in preference over Bush & Cheney's
blatantly "Dark Side" activities, any day. I still hope she won't win the
Democratic nomination, but she's far better than the best the GOP has to
offer.
 
"David Hartung" <dhart1ng@quixnet.net> wrote in message
news:FYydnd7a-_AorUHbnZ2dnUVZ_uzinZ2d@comcast.com...
> turk wrote:
> > "David Hartung" <dhart1ng@quixnet.net> wrote in message
> > news:F_WdnQ7Ji5IdukHbnZ2dnUVZ_hOdnZ2d@comcast.com...
> >> Al Gonzalies wrote:
> >>> "David Hartung" <dhart1ng@quixnet.net> wrote in message
> >>> news:26-dnVMyxrRYgUHbnZ2dnUVZ_vDinZ2d@comcast.com...
> >>>> Amanda Williams wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Get used to it EMU .... Madame President Clinton.. has a nice ring

to
> >>>>> it doncha think ???
> >>>> The first election of Bill Clinton was a shameful action, his

reelection
> >>>> made matters even worse. Bush's election at least brought some sort

of
> >>>> honesty back to the White House.
> >>> That's it! I can't handle stupidity so blatant. You're out of here
> >>> Hartdung you stupid tearoom ****sucker!
> >> no great loss.

> >
> > For him, no. Certainly not. Except for the hilarious claims you make.
> >
> > Seriously? George W. Bush...honesty?!?!

>
> In any comparison between Bill Clinton and George W Bush involving honesty

and
> personal ethics, Bush comes out on top.


Only if Jeff Gannon is the "bottom".
 
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