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builder
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You think that video was good? One fireman who arrived after the event? The rest of the "content" was laughable.
This video is from a firefighter fighting for justice and truth on behalf of his fallen comrades.
https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/TULmLtqRXZ4?feature=oembed
jokersarewild
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Actually, it's not impossible. At all.
https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/_vJliayH6co?feature=oembed
http://www.awitness...._standdown.html An amusing read offering an explanation to that.
ImWithStupid
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Shhh!!!
Builder is a truther, through and through.
Facts, witnesses and science mean nothing to him. He read it on a blog somewhere so it must be true.
This is his next crusade...
It seems that the United States and specifically the CIA are in cahoots with COBRA to get the weather control device...
Builder is a truther, through and through.
Facts, witnesses and science mean nothing to him. He read it on a blog somewhere so it must be true.
This is his next crusade...
http://www.memri.org.../0/0/0/4561.htm
It seems that the United States and specifically the CIA are in cahoots with COBRA to get the weather control device...
jokersarewild
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Yes. That explains the 9/11 attacks, too. The Arabs were part of COBRA. It's all coming together now!
ImWithStupid
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jokersarewild
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ImWithStupid
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timesjoke
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Well Builder, I posted a link to a popular mechanics page where they went line by line on the most popular conspiracy theory beliefs and they were all refuted by hard scientists anf facts, not unsupported conjecture.
You don't have one fact, just assumptions driven by your own redical mindset as well as those who share your hate. You feed off each other and completely ignore common sense and hard facts.
You need to step back and do some more thinking instead of just believeing everything you read on wacko websites.
How do you respond to my point that so many normal people would have to be in on the coverup? Where did the passengers go Builder? Why did the first responders to the Pentagon all report they saw dead bodies and plane parts in the wreckage?
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Is that part of the plane that hit the Pentagon Builder? If not, where did it come from and who put it there? You think Bush or Cheeny put it there? Can't you see that your beliefe of conspiracy must involve more than just them to work? People who don't have great power to gain must be in on this and why would they keep that blood on their hands.
I asked you if you would keep that lie hidden Builder, but you don't want to answer that question do you? You don't want to because you would have to admit that you would not, and that means you have to admit the other normal every day people most likely would not lie for Cheeny or Bush either.
You don't have one fact, just assumptions driven by your own redical mindset as well as those who share your hate. You feed off each other and completely ignore common sense and hard facts.
You need to step back and do some more thinking instead of just believeing everything you read on wacko websites.
How do you respond to my point that so many normal people would have to be in on the coverup? Where did the passengers go Builder? Why did the first responders to the Pentagon all report they saw dead bodies and plane parts in the wreckage?
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Is that part of the plane that hit the Pentagon Builder? If not, where did it come from and who put it there? You think Bush or Cheeny put it there? Can't you see that your beliefe of conspiracy must involve more than just them to work? People who don't have great power to gain must be in on this and why would they keep that blood on their hands.
I asked you if you would keep that lie hidden Builder, but you don't want to answer that question do you? You don't want to because you would have to admit that you would not, and that means you have to admit the other normal every day people most likely would not lie for Cheeny or Bush either.
jokersarewild
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http://67.19.222.106/rumors/images/debris.jpg
Go to the link. Otherwise, it just shows a big green "Mr. Yuk" type thing.
Go to the link. Otherwise, it just shows a big green "Mr. Yuk" type thing.
builder
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http://www.mujca.com/
As for Popular mechanics, what a joke that sh t is.
http://books.google.com.au/books?id=NLF-TcNb8oIC&dq=,+William+Randolph+Hearst&source=bl&ots=5WsOdEhBj1&sig=dM2NxdE1Lq_Ch9Dwjtfekwu1FSY&hl=en&ei=1ZWOTLa8A4esvgOv5NnnBg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=19&ved=0CGMQ6AEwEg
In the second and final installment of Hearst's biography, Procter (Not Without Honor: The Life of John H. Reagan ) attempts to humanize the reigning avatar of American media tycoonism. This is no easy task. Hearst's lavish and exotic tastes, his romantic juggling acts, his voracious appetite for anything that cost money and his ruthless pursuit of political office easily congeal into cartoonish self-parody. Procter, a history professor at Texas Christian University, proves that Hearst's intentions were pure—he genuinely wanted to improve the lives of all Americans. The focal point of the mogul's last 40 years is an unshakable political curse. Never internalizing the art of compromise, Hearst failed again and again to parlay his national newspaper puissance into political capital. He had a great knack for making, embellishing and fabricating the news, but no talent for anticipating it, as he continually dug his heels into the historically wrong side of all the big issues—from U.S. involvement in WWI and WWII to Roosevelt's New Deal. Revelatory research into the finer points of Hearst's protean political alliances is rich in detail, as is his infamous meeting with Hitler, but the author delivers the same summaries over and over again.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WULRQCgvsdE&feature=player_embedded
As for Popular mechanics, what a joke that sh t is.
http://books.google.com.au/books?id=NLF-TcNb8oIC&dq=,+William+Randolph+Hearst&source=bl&ots=5WsOdEhBj1&sig=dM2NxdE1Lq_Ch9Dwjtfekwu1FSY&hl=en&ei=1ZWOTLa8A4esvgOv5NnnBg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=19&ved=0CGMQ6AEwEg
In the second and final installment of Hearst's biography, Procter (Not Without Honor: The Life of John H. Reagan ) attempts to humanize the reigning avatar of American media tycoonism. This is no easy task. Hearst's lavish and exotic tastes, his romantic juggling acts, his voracious appetite for anything that cost money and his ruthless pursuit of political office easily congeal into cartoonish self-parody. Procter, a history professor at Texas Christian University, proves that Hearst's intentions were pure—he genuinely wanted to improve the lives of all Americans. The focal point of the mogul's last 40 years is an unshakable political curse. Never internalizing the art of compromise, Hearst failed again and again to parlay his national newspaper puissance into political capital. He had a great knack for making, embellishing and fabricating the news, but no talent for anticipating it, as he continually dug his heels into the historically wrong side of all the big issues—from U.S. involvement in WWI and WWII to Roosevelt's New Deal. Revelatory research into the finer points of Hearst's protean political alliances is rich in detail, as is his infamous meeting with Hitler, but the author delivers the same summaries over and over again.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WULRQCgvsdE&feature=player_embedded
ImWithStupid
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I see you won't answer the question.
You claim that a plane couldn't fly that low, into the Pentagon. (despite proof on video of both the actual plane hitting the Pentagon and a 757 doing a fly by just feet of the ground and recovering from the maneuver)
What happened to American 77 and all the passengers and crew then?
Their families and friends? Were they all in on it? Did they all go into hiding?
Dumbass.
timesjoke
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Why is it a joke? Because they use hard science and real experts in every field to prove your wacko conspiracy theory as impossible? You can't stand to see hard evidence so you look away, blind yourself to that truth and hide behind the lie that they are in on it too?
You cling to impossible theories and when your asked to explain why so many innocent and non-power hungry people would join in on the conspiracy you simply dodge the question and continue spouting complete uneducated lunacy, that is the joke, a sick joke to be true, but still a joke.
For you conspricay theory to be true, thousands of regular people, just like you and me would have to be in on the coverup, would you hold that blood on your hands Builder? If your answer is no, then why do you assume other regular people like you but who live in America would do it? I understand your hate of Bush and Cheeny, but your allowing that hate to blind you from the truth, to blind you from the reality those two men could not do this by themselves.
timesjoke
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For your conspiracy theory to be true, thousands of regular people, just like you and me would have to be in on the coverup, would you hold that blood on your hands Builder? If your answer is no, then why do you assume other regular people like you but who live in America would do it? I understand your hate of Bush and Cheeny, but your allowing that hate to blind you from the truth, to blind you from the reality those two men could not do this by themselves.
Why do you keep dodging this point Builder?
Why do you keep dodging this point Builder?
jokersarewild
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As for Popular Mechanics being a joke, a couple of things:
David might not have known what he was talking about. He sounded mildly ambushed. And perhaps he'd never heard of "pull it", or whatever it was, used in demolition. Whatever.
Main point: That story the jerkoff was talking about? The BBC came out and said that the names were common, so the people they had talked to weren't the hijackers. I'm curious as to where these "more than one" articles are, as there's only the one talking about how they were still alive.
David might not have known what he was talking about. He sounded mildly ambushed. And perhaps he'd never heard of "pull it", or whatever it was, used in demolition. Whatever.
Main point: That story the jerkoff was talking about? The BBC came out and said that the names were common, so the people they had talked to weren't the hijackers. I'm curious as to where these "more than one" articles are, as there's only the one talking about how they were still alive.
timesjoke
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Instead of trying to tie your hopes of refuting the popular mechanics detailed scientific proof based on one guys interview later, how about actually talking about the hard facts that are in that report?
And why are you too scared to actually talk about things like how thousands of every day normal people would have to be in on the conspiracy to work?
This is always the case with wack jobs who believe in crazy conspiracy theories. You always focus on one tiny assumption, you have no real facts to support that assumption, and when other real facts contradict that assumption, you simply ignore those other facts and refuse to even talk about them.
And why are you too scared to actually talk about things like how thousands of every day normal people would have to be in on the conspiracy to work?
This is always the case with wack jobs who believe in crazy conspiracy theories. You always focus on one tiny assumption, you have no real facts to support that assumption, and when other real facts contradict that assumption, you simply ignore those other facts and refuse to even talk about them.
builder
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The "pull it" thing is old hat. Did you hear the part where certain images and footage were supposedly "made available" to pop mechanics, but nobody else can get to see them?
And getting back to the owner of the magazine, Hearst fabricates "news", and has a long history of doing it. He also wants to be politically involved, but can't get a leg in the door.
Anyone who seriously believes that magazine is scientific, rather than a common pulp periodical, needs to do some research of their own.
As for NIST giving Hearst, a magazine owner, access to images for research purposes, then telling him he was not to publish them, smells worse than my work socks after a hot day in the sun.
snafu
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Once Popular Mechanics refuted and proved the Truthers wrong on every single claim why didn’t they try to come back and prove PM wrong? Why because they can’t fight hard cold facts. Notice the Truthers are disappearing in big numbers? Your fighting a loosing battle builder.:sweat:
timesjoke
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That is why he is desperately attacking the edges of the report like trying to make the owner look bad, but the facts offered are things Builder cannot talk about because he has no facts of his own, only theories and assumptions.
This is also why he refuses to admit that thousands of regular people would have to be in on the conspiracy for it to work, if Builder admitted to that fact, he would also have to admit that it is doubtful they would keep that blood on their hands to protect Bush, Cheeny, or anyone else. Builder is stuck in a self sustaining delusion where his mind just does not allow himself to see any facts that don't agree with his assumptions.
Builder is most definately on the same radical level as an Islamic terrorist, they isolate their minds from reality and immerse themselves into very strictly controlled circles of information that supports their beliefs and hatreds while insulating them from things that don't.