US Gulag in Afghanistan, Bagram concentration camp, now twice thesize of Guantanamo 08 Jan 2008

On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 08:06:01 -0800, wbyeats@ireland.com wrote:

>On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 00:36:03 GMT, tangential <ray@vector.it> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 12:13:53 -0800, wbyeats@ireland.com wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 17:52:10 GMT, Seal Harbor <lion@rock.sea> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>> But Mommy, Mommy! Jimmy's mother let him jump off the bridge. Why
>>>>>>> can't I? If you want to be like a Jihadi, act like a Jihadi, and do
>>>>>>> like a Jihadi then don't pretend NOT to be one. Others behavior is no
>>>>>>> reason to act like them. We're supposed to be better than that - well,
>>>>>>> some of us anyway.
>>>>>> Nice sophistry. They say "CONVERT OR DIE" - I say YOU FIRST ASSHOLE!
>>>>>
>>>>> A pox on both Islam and Xtianity.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>A pox on foul scumsuckers like who can so swiftly lie to equate the two.
>>>>
>>>>Islime chop heads.
>>>>
>>>>Christians do not.
>>>>
>>>>http://www.contenderministries.org/islam/jihad.php
>
>>>It always amazes me how many times this God orders the killing
>>
>>
>>Cluebat!
>>
>>Islime = headchopping TODAY...
>>
>>Christianity = reformation = NO more head chopping.
>>
>>HTH, you asshat!
>
>Good job, Goober. Edit anything with which you don't agree and then
>add some idiotic comment.

So how many heads have Christians chopped off this past year?

CITE!

>Which religion do you feel has killed more
>folks in history -

Does it matter?

I'd say what counts is who's chopping heads off NOW, declaring jehad,
and waging war on the West, wouldn't you???

You ****ing insolent, traitorous, exterminable VERMIN!
 
On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 16:37:15 GMT, tangential <ray@vector.it> wrote:

>On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 08:06:01 -0800, wbyeats@ireland.com wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 00:36:03 GMT, tangential <ray@vector.it> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 12:13:53 -0800, wbyeats@ireland.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 17:52:10 GMT, Seal Harbor <lion@rock.sea> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>> But Mommy, Mommy! Jimmy's mother let him jump off the bridge. Why
>>>>>>>> can't I? If you want to be like a Jihadi, act like a Jihadi, and do
>>>>>>>> like a Jihadi then don't pretend NOT to be one. Others behavior is no
>>>>>>>> reason to act like them. We're supposed to be better than that - well,
>>>>>>>> some of us anyway.
>>>>>>> Nice sophistry. They say "CONVERT OR DIE" - I say YOU FIRST ASSHOLE!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A pox on both Islam and Xtianity.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>A pox on foul scumsuckers like who can so swiftly lie to equate the two.
>>>>>
>>>>>Islime chop heads.
>>>>>
>>>>>Christians do not.
>>>>>
>>>>>http://www.contenderministries.org/islam/jihad.php
>>
>>>>It always amazes me how many times this God orders the killing
>>>
>>>
>>>Cluebat!
>>>
>>>Islime = headchopping TODAY...
>>>
>>>Christianity = reformation = NO more head chopping.
>>>
>>>HTH, you asshat!
>>
>>Good job, Goober. Edit anything with which you don't agree and then
>>add some idiotic comment.
>
>So how many heads have Christians chopped off this past year?
>
>CITE!
>
>>Which religion do you feel has killed more
>>folks in history -
>
>Does it matter?

Get some perspective, dolt.

>I'd say what counts is who's chopping heads off NOW, declaring jehad,
>and waging war on the West, wouldn't you???
>
>You ****ing insolent, traitorous, exterminable VERMIN!

Coming from an ignorant cracker like yourself, that's a compliment.
The problem with uneducated dolts is that they have no sense of
historical perspective - it's more like hysterical perspective.

WB Yeats
 
On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 11:00:19 -0800, wbyeats@ireland.com wrote:

>On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 16:37:15 GMT, tangential <ray@vector.it> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 08:06:01 -0800, wbyeats@ireland.com wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 00:36:03 GMT, tangential <ray@vector.it> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 12:13:53 -0800, wbyeats@ireland.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 17:52:10 GMT, Seal Harbor <lion@rock.sea> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But Mommy, Mommy! Jimmy's mother let him jump off the bridge. Why
>>>>>>>>> can't I? If you want to be like a Jihadi, act like a Jihadi, and do
>>>>>>>>> like a Jihadi then don't pretend NOT to be one. Others behavior is no
>>>>>>>>> reason to act like them. We're supposed to be better than that - well,
>>>>>>>>> some of us anyway.
>>>>>>>> Nice sophistry. They say "CONVERT OR DIE" - I say YOU FIRST ASSHOLE!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A pox on both Islam and Xtianity.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>A pox on foul scumsuckers like who can so swiftly lie to equate the two.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Islime chop heads.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Christians do not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://www.contenderministries.org/islam/jihad.php
>>>
>>>>>It always amazes me how many times this God orders the killing
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Cluebat!
>>>>
>>>>Islime = headchopping TODAY...
>>>>
>>>>Christianity = reformation = NO more head chopping.
>>>>
>>>>HTH, you asshat!
>>>
>>>Good job, Goober. Edit anything with which you don't agree and then
>>>add some idiotic comment.
>>
>>So how many heads have Christians chopped off this past year?
>>
>>CITE!
>>
>>>Which religion do you feel has killed more
>>>folks in history -
>>
>>Does it matter?
>
>Get some perspective, dolt.

Step into the PRESENT, DOLT!

>>I'd say what counts is who's chopping heads off NOW, declaring jehad,
>>and waging war on the West, wouldn't you???
>>
>>You ****ing insolent, traitorous, exterminable VERMIN!
>
>Coming from an ignorant cracker

**** off and die muzzie scumbag!
 
"Mens sana" <Spambush@Area51.cia> wrote in message
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>> We ARE better. Better shots and better at war.
>
> The Viet Cong have lots of rusty helicopters that say otherwise.


Yeah - we lost 58,000 THEY buried 4 MILLION. They can HAVE the old
helicopters.
 
"Mens sana" <Spambush@Area51.cia> wrote in message
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>
> "Seal Harbor" <lion@rock.sea> wrote in message
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>> Mens sana wrote:
>>> " krp" <web2457k@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>> news:9Q0ij.7390$W73.4471@trnddc04...
>>>
>>>> We ARE better. Better shots and better at war.
>>>
>>> The Viet Cong have lots of rusty helicopters
>>
>> Go live in one you scumbag.
>
>
> Is the poor little Merkin all upset at the truth?
>
> The Viet Cong, a peasant army, kicked America's arse so badly that you had
> to throw your helicopters into the sea in your panic to run away.

Sorry weenie they never won even ONE engagement.
EXCEPT in the U.S. Congress.
 
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 02:06:29 GMT, " krp" <web2457k@verizon.net> wrote:

>
>"Mens sana" <Spambush@Area51.cia> wrote in message
>news:Rb7ij.24097$j7.448652@news.indigo.ie...
>>
>> "Seal Harbor" <lion@rock.sea> wrote in message
>> news:Ii6ij.230228$uv7.211281@fe05.news.easynews.com...
>>> Mens sana wrote:
>>>> " krp" <web2457k@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:9Q0ij.7390$W73.4471@trnddc04...
>>>>
>>>>> We ARE better. Better shots and better at war.
>>>>
>>>> The Viet Cong have lots of rusty helicopters
>>>
>>> Go live in one you scumbag.
>>
>>
>> Is the poor little Merkin all upset at the truth?
>>
>> The Viet Cong, a peasant army, kicked America's arse so badly that you had
>> to throw your helicopters into the sea in your panic to run away.
>
>Sorry weenie they never won even ONE engagement.
>EXCEPT in the U.S. Congress.

.......and in US public opinion. Ever hear of losing the battle and
winning the war? Ever hear of wars of attrition? Ever hear anything
besides the sound of your own voice? Thought not.

WB Yeats
 
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 02:06:29 GMT, " krp" <web2457k@verizon.net> wrote:

>
>"Mens sana" <Spambush@Area51.cia> wrote in message
>news:Rb7ij.24097$j7.448652@news.indigo.ie...

>> The Viet Cong, a peasant army, kicked America's arse so badly that you had
>> to throw your helicopters into the sea in your panic to run away.
>
>Sorry weenie they never won even ONE engagement.

Not Quite true. There were numerous occasions when VC/NVA roops
pretty much overran Murken positions around the RVN from time to time.

>EXCEPT in the U.S. Congress.

Well, no -- not that either. If you are seeking the place where the
Murkens pretty much abandoned the field, you'd want to take a longer
look at the Paris Peace Talks, headed by H Kissinger et al.
 
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 07:47:41 -0800, Don Homuth
<dhomuthoneatcomcast.net@> wrote:

>Murken

Shitzlish!
 
<wbyeats@ireland.com> wrote in message
news:fvtmo3p3e8ksf9jdbk8hhrl5dfg91jqngm@4ax.com...

>>>>>> We ARE better. Better shots and better at war.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Viet Cong have lots of rusty helicopters
>>>>
>>>> Go live in one you scumbag.
>>>
>>>
>>> Is the poor little Merkin all upset at the truth?
>>>
>>> The Viet Cong, a peasant army, kicked America's arse so badly that you
>>> had
>>> to throw your helicopters into the sea in your panic to run away.
>>
>>Sorry weenie they never won even ONE engagement.
>>EXCEPT in the U.S. Congress.
>
> ......and in US public opinion. Ever hear of losing the battle and
> winning the war? Ever hear of wars of attrition? Ever hear anything
> besides the sound of your own voice? Thought not.

Actually majority PUBLIC opinion persisted. However there was
significant opposition and a president being HAMMERED relentlessly over
Watergate. Richard Nixon shared TOTAL INCOMPETENCE with George W.
Bush.However militarily we kicked their ass Congress was YELLOW.
 
"Don Homuth" <dhomuthoneatcomcast.net@> wrote in message
news:1u0no350828081e4nenuc8l17petr6s2u2@4ax.com...

>>> The Viet Cong, a peasant army, kicked America's arse so badly that you
>>> had
>>> to throw your helicopters into the sea in your panic to run away.

>>Sorry weenie they never won even ONE engagement.

> Not Quite true. There were numerous occasions when VC/NVA roops
> pretty much overran Murken positions around the RVN from time to time.

Not really. They took a HILL for what turned out to be LESS THAN AN HOUR
as U.S. forces pulled back to allow the Air Force to incinerate the NVA and
Cong troops. An hour later the U.S. had its base back. I don't know what YOU
think winning an engagement OR a war is, but by the standards YOU are
suggesting here, the U.S. should have surrendered on December7, 1941 or at
least the Phillipines in 1942. We should have just handed over the keys to
the White House to Tojo.

>>EXCEPT in the U.S. Congress.

> Well, no -- not that either. If you are seeking the place where the
> Murkens pretty much abandoned the field, you'd want to take a longer
> look at the Paris Peace Talks, headed by H Kissinger et al.

Kissinger, with Nixon in the **** HOUSE over Watergate at that point,
and CONGRESS being YELLOW had no choice but to SURRENDER and RUN
because Congress would no longer fund the war. Hard to win a war with no
bullets only BARELY enough money for gas to RUN LIKE HELL!
 
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 13:48:19 GMT, " krp" <web2457k@verizon.net> wrote:

>
><wbyeats@ireland.com> wrote in message
>news:fvtmo3p3e8ksf9jdbk8hhrl5dfg91jqngm@4ax.com...
>
>>>>>>> We ARE better. Better shots and better at war.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Viet Cong have lots of rusty helicopters
>>>>>
>>>>> Go live in one you scumbag.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Is the poor little Merkin all upset at the truth?
>>>>
>>>> The Viet Cong, a peasant army, kicked America's arse so badly that you
>>>> had
>>>> to throw your helicopters into the sea in your panic to run away.
>>>
>>>Sorry weenie they never won even ONE engagement.
>>>EXCEPT in the U.S. Congress.
>>
>> ......and in US public opinion. Ever hear of losing the battle and
>> winning the war? Ever hear of wars of attrition? Ever hear anything
>> besides the sound of your own voice? Thought not.
>
> Actually majority PUBLIC opinion persisted. However there was
>significant opposition and a president being HAMMERED relentlessly over
>Watergate. Richard Nixon shared TOTAL INCOMPETENCE with George W.
>Bush.However militarily we kicked their ass Congress was YELLOW.

Where do you get your info - the Fantasy Times? As soon as Walter came
out against the war, public opinion followed. By 1968 the majority of
Americans were AGAINST the war. Look it up. As for yellow. Yup - it's
takes real bravery to bomb a bunch of pajama-clad farmers.

WB Yeats
 
On Jan 15, 7:50 am, wbye...@ireland.com wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 13:48:19 GMT, " krp" <web24...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> ><wbye...@ireland.com> wrote in message
> >news:fvtmo3p3e8ksf9jdbk8hhrl5dfg91jqngm@4ax.com...
>
> >>>>>>> We ARE better. Better shots and better at war.
>
> >>>>>> The Viet Cong have lots of rusty helicopters
>
> >>>>> Go live in one you scumbag.
>
> >>>> Is the poor little Merkin all upset at the truth?
>
> >>>> The Viet Cong, a peasant army, kicked America's arse so badly that you
> >>>> had
> >>>> to throw your helicopters into the sea in your panic to run away.
>
> >>>Sorry weenie they never won even ONE engagement.
> >>>EXCEPT in the U.S. Congress.
>
> >> ......and in US public opinion. Ever hear of losing the battle and
> >> winning the war? Ever hear of wars of attrition? Ever hear anything
> >> besides the sound of your own voice? Thought not.
>
> > Actually majority PUBLIC opinion persisted. However there was
> >significant opposition and a president being HAMMERED relentlessly over
> >Watergate. Richard Nixon shared TOTAL INCOMPETENCE with George W.
> >Bush.However militarily we kicked their ass Congress was YELLOW.
>
> Where do you get your info - the Fantasy Times? As soon as Walter came
> out against the war, public opinion followed. By 1968 the majority of
> Americans were AGAINST the war. Look it up. As for yellow. Yup - it's
> takes real bravery to bomb a bunch of pajama-clad farmers.
>
> WB Yeats

I don't suppose you remember why we went to war originally? The war
was terribly mis-managed by the president & his chief-of-staff.
Remember who that was? Sound familiar?
 
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 07:50:26 -0800, wbyeats@ireland.com wrote:

>Yup - it's
>takes real bravery to bomb a bunch of pajama-clad farmers.

Post your coordinates, I'll see what we can call in...
 
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 08:18:16 -0800 (PST), MEG <ekrubmeg@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Jan 15, 7:50 am, wbye...@ireland.com wrote:
>> On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 13:48:19 GMT, " krp" <web24...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>> ><wbye...@ireland.com> wrote in message
>> >news:fvtmo3p3e8ksf9jdbk8hhrl5dfg91jqngm@4ax.com...
>>
>> >>>>>>> We ARE better. Better shots and better at war.
>>
>> >>>>>> The Viet Cong have lots of rusty helicopters
>>
>> >>>>> Go live in one you scumbag.
>>
>> >>>> Is the poor little Merkin all upset at the truth?
>>
>> >>>> The Viet Cong, a peasant army, kicked America's arse so badly that you
>> >>>> had
>> >>>> to throw your helicopters into the sea in your panic to run away.
>>
>> >>>Sorry weenie they never won even ONE engagement.
>> >>>EXCEPT in the U.S. Congress.
>>
>> >> ......and in US public opinion. Ever hear of losing the battle and
>> >> winning the war? Ever hear of wars of attrition? Ever hear anything
>> >> besides the sound of your own voice? Thought not.
>>
>> > Actually majority PUBLIC opinion persisted. However there was
>> >significant opposition and a president being HAMMERED relentlessly over
>> >Watergate. Richard Nixon shared TOTAL INCOMPETENCE with George W.
>> >Bush.However militarily we kicked their ass Congress was YELLOW.
>>
>> Where do you get your info - the Fantasy Times? As soon as Walter came
>> out against the war, public opinion followed. By 1968 the majority of
>> Americans were AGAINST the war. Look it up. As for yellow. Yup - it's
>> takes real bravery to bomb a bunch of pajama-clad farmers.
>>
>> WB Yeats
>
>I don't suppose you remember why we went to war originally? The war
>was terribly mis-managed by the president & his chief-of-staff.
>Remember who that was? Sound familiar?

LBJ, yes.
 
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 13:53:01 GMT, " krp" <web2457k@verizon.net> wrote:

>
>"Don Homuth" <dhomuthoneatcomcast.net@> wrote in message
>news:1u0no350828081e4nenuc8l17petr6s2u2@4ax.com...
>
>>>> The Viet Cong, a peasant army, kicked America's arse so badly that you
>>>> had
>>>> to throw your helicopters into the sea in your panic to run away.
>
>>>Sorry weenie they never won even ONE engagement.
>
>> Not Quite true. There were numerous occasions when VC/NVA roops
>> pretty much overran Murken positions around the RVN from time to time.
>
> Not really. They took a HILL for what turned out to be LESS THAN AN HOUR
>as U.S. forces pulled back to allow the Air Force to incinerate the NVA and
>Cong troops. An hour later the U.S. had its base back.

That was pretty much the pattern at the time. We'd blast something,
then leave. They'd overrun something, then leave.

If you concept of "winning" is to capture and hold only, save for the
major bases around Viet Nam, it was seldom done.

> I don't know what YOU
>think winning an engagement OR a war is, but by the standards YOU are
>suggesting here, the U.S. should have surrendered on December7, 1941 or at
>least the Phillipines in 1942. We should have just handed over the keys to
>the White House to Tojo.

What utter drivel! WW2 was a setpiece war, in which capturing and
holding were the order of the day. Viet Nam was not.

>>>EXCEPT in the U.S. Congress.
>
>> Well, no -- not that either. If you are seeking the place where the
>> Murkens pretty much abandoned the field, you'd want to take a longer
>> look at the Paris Peace Talks, headed by H Kissinger et al.
>
> Kissinger, with Nixon in the **** HOUSE over Watergate at that point,
>and CONGRESS being YELLOW had no choice but to SURRENDER and RUN
>because Congress would no longer fund the war. Hard to win a war with no
>bullets only BARELY enough money for gas to RUN LIKE HELL!

Apparently you simply don't recall how the Paris Peace Talks went at
the time. When RMN ran for Prez in 1968, he campaigned on his plan to
End the war in Viet Nam. He, like others, seems to have come to
realize that it was always Their war to win or lose -- not ours.
RMN's plan discussion preceded Watergate by several years, if you
recall clearly.

Which is why Vietnamization was the watchword of his entire Plan, and
moving responsibility for the conduct of the war to the RVN was the
central tenet of it.

In the end, there was no "nation" of RVN worth bothering with. Just a
group of kleptocrats who weren't worthy of even One Murken Casualty.

Which is why we eventually left.
 
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 08:18:16 -0800 (PST), MEG <ekrubmeg@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Jan 15, 7:50 am, wbye...@ireland.com wrote:
>> On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 13:48:19 GMT, " krp" <web24...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>> ><wbye...@ireland.com> wrote in message
>> >news:fvtmo3p3e8ksf9jdbk8hhrl5dfg91jqngm@4ax.com...
>>
>> >>>>>>> We ARE better. Better shots and better at war.
>>
>> >>>>>> The Viet Cong have lots of rusty helicopters
>>
>> >>>>> Go live in one you scumbag.
>>
>> >>>> Is the poor little Merkin all upset at the truth?
>>
>> >>>> The Viet Cong, a peasant army, kicked America's arse so badly that you
>> >>>> had
>> >>>> to throw your helicopters into the sea in your panic to run away.
>>
>> >>>Sorry weenie they never won even ONE engagement.
>> >>>EXCEPT in the U.S. Congress.
>>
>> >> ......and in US public opinion. Ever hear of losing the battle and
>> >> winning the war? Ever hear of wars of attrition? Ever hear anything
>> >> besides the sound of your own voice? Thought not.
>>
>> > Actually majority PUBLIC opinion persisted. However there was
>> >significant opposition and a president being HAMMERED relentlessly over
>> >Watergate. Richard Nixon shared TOTAL INCOMPETENCE with George W.
>> >Bush.However militarily we kicked their ass Congress was YELLOW.
>>
>> Where do you get your info - the Fantasy Times? As soon as Walter came
>> out against the war, public opinion followed. By 1968 the majority of
>> Americans were AGAINST the war. Look it up. As for yellow. Yup - it's
>> takes real bravery to bomb a bunch of pajama-clad farmers.
>>
>> WB Yeats
>
>I don't suppose you remember why we went to war originally? The war
>was terribly mis-managed by the president & his chief-of-staff.
>Remember who that was? Sound familiar?

Ummm......... Eisenhower and Dulles under the Domino Theory and the
Dulles Doctrine. Prior to that Truman supported the puppet government
with money and maybe a few advisors. They were both following the
failed French policy in Indochina and propping up a puppet government.
Dulles was Sect'y of State - not chief of staff. BTW - there were
supposed to be free elections after the partition that never occurred
because all knew that Ho Chi Minh would have won. Look it up!
Everything that followed thereafter represented the failed policy and
theory - Kennedy (who might have ended it according to many
historians), Johnson (knee-deep in the Big Muddy), and Nixon (who
decided to bomb just about everybody and widened the war). Other than
that it was a marvelous policy in which many Americans and Vietnamese
died for what? A failed policy. Sound familiar?

WB Yeats
 
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 11:21:30 -0800, wbyeats@ireland.com wrote:

>Johnson (knee-deep in the Big Muddy),
http://www.vdare.com/guzzardi/lbj.htm
While reassuring the public that victory in Vietnam was right around
the corner, Johnson, in his recorded private telephone conversations,
stated over and over that he knew that defeat was inevitable.

In conversations with Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara and Sen.
Richard Russell, D-Ga., chairman of the Armed Services Committee,
Johnson confirmed that Vietnam boxed him in.

As early as February 1965, Johnson, in reference to his
 
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 23:34:34 GMT, "blues@steel.yard" <Steelyard>
wrote:

>On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 11:21:30 -0800, wbyeats@ireland.com wrote:
>
>>Johnson (knee-deep in the Big Muddy),
>http://www.vdare.com/guzzardi/lbj.htm
>While reassuring the public that victory in Vietnam was right around
>the corner, Johnson, in his recorded private telephone conversations,
>stated over and over that he knew that defeat was inevitable.
>
>In conversations with Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara and Sen.
>Richard Russell, D-Ga., chairman of the Armed Services Committee,
>Johnson confirmed that Vietnam boxed him in.
>
>As early as February 1965, Johnson, in reference to his
 
wbyeats@ireland.com wrote:

> On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 13:48:19 GMT, " krp" <web2457k@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>
>><wbyeats@ireland.com> wrote in message
>>news:fvtmo3p3e8ksf9jdbk8hhrl5dfg91jqngm@4ax.com...
>>
>>>>>>>> We ARE better. Better shots and better at war.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Viet Cong have lots of rusty helicopters
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Go live in one you scumbag.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Is the poor little Merkin all upset at the truth?
>>>>>
>>>>> The Viet Cong, a peasant army, kicked America's arse so badly that
>>>>> you had
>>>>> to throw your helicopters into the sea in your panic to run away.
>>>>
>>>>Sorry weenie they never won even ONE engagement.
>>>>EXCEPT in the U.S. Congress.
>>>
>>> ......and in US public opinion. Ever hear of losing the battle and
>>> winning the war? Ever hear of wars of attrition? Ever hear anything
>>> besides the sound of your own voice? Thought not.
>>
>> Actually majority PUBLIC opinion persisted. However there was
>>significant opposition and a president being HAMMERED relentlessly
>>over Watergate. Richard Nixon shared TOTAL INCOMPETENCE with George W.
>>Bush.However militarily we kicked their ass Congress was YELLOW.
>
> Where do you get your info - the Fantasy Times? As soon as Walter came
> out against the war, public opinion followed. By 1968 the majority of
> Americans were AGAINST the war. Look it up. As for yellow. Yup - it's
> takes real bravery to bomb a bunch of pajama-clad farmers.

Yeh, White Man's Burden is a Heavy Load!
 

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