US Marshalls Ordered To Cease & Desist Racketeering For Illegitimate Taxation By IRS

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On 26 Jun 2007 04:57:58 GMT, Lars Eighner <usenet@larseighner.com> wrote:

Your new world order has seen its hay day. Its all down hill from here for
your Ubermasters.

You need to develop FTL travel so your Ubermasters can survive on another
planet. You've got less than 10 years before there won't be enough
intelligence left to assist them.

Be wary of other life out there in the Universe, they don't like Nazis.

Get busy.

>In our last episode, <ant083pjtq6g1spnts0lil2qa4th2dcps5@4ax.com>, the
>lovely and talented www.freedomtofascism.com broadcast on alt.politics:
>
>> Ohio wasn't a state. Ratification is null and void because 3/4's of the
>> states didn't ratify it.
>
>Nonsense. Thomas Jefferson signed the law making Ohio a state in 1803.
>The Senate received senators from Ohio, the House admitted representatives
>from Ohio. Your theory would have it that no act of Congress has been legal
>since Worthington and Smith were seated in the Senate in 1803.
>
>Sorry, it doesn't wash. It hasn't washed in the courts.


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[wsthomas@bellsouth.net]

On Jun 25, 9:23 pm, www.freedomtofascism.com <t...@r.us> wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 19:13:47 -0700,Grendel<wstho...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >On Jun 25, 8:45 pm,www.freedomtofascism.com<t...@r.us> wrote:
> >> On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 17:04:10 GMT, tgm <t...@verizon.net> wrote:
> >> >The 16th Amendment was then passed in 1913.
>
> >> No it wasn't. It was never ratified.
>
> >> --
> >> Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com
>
> >On February 25, 1913, the Republican Secretary of State Philander Knox
> >proclaimed
>
> Proclamations are never based in evidence.
>
>
>
>
>
> >that the amendment had been ratified by the necessary three-
> >quarters of the states ensuring the constitutionality of unapportioned
> >federal income taxes.
>
> >According to the United States Government Printing Office, the
> >following states ratified the amendment:
>
> >Alabama (August 10, 1909)
> >Kentucky (February 8, 1910)
> >South Carolina (February 19, 1910)
> >Illinois (March 1, 1910)
> >Mississippi (March 7, 1910)
> >Oklahoma (March 10, 1910)
> >Maryland (April 8, 1910)
> >Georgia (August 3, 1910)
> >Texas (August 16, 1910)
> >Ohio (January 19, 1911)
> >Idaho (January 20, 1911)
> >Oregon (January 23, 1911)
> >Washington (January 26, 1911)
> >Montana (January 27, 1911)
> >Indiana (January 30, 1911)
> >California (January 31, 1911)
> >Nevada (January 31, 1911)
> >South Dakota (February 1, 1911)
> >Nebraska (February 9, 1911)
> >North Carolina (February 11, 1911)
> >Colorado (February 15, 1911)
> >North Dakota (February 17, 1911)
> >Michigan (February 23, 1911)
> >Iowa (February 24, 1911)
> >Kansas (March 2, 1911)
> >Missouri (March 16, 1911)
> >Maine (March 31, 1911)
> >Tennessee (April 7, 1911)
> >Arkansas (April 22, 1911, after having previously rejected the
> >amendment)
> >Wisconsin (May 16, 1911)
> >New York (July 12, 1911)
> >Arizona (April 3, 1912)
> >Minnesota (June 11, 1912)
> >Louisiana (June 28, 1912)
> >West Virginia (January 31, 1913)
> >New Mexico (February 3, 1913)
>
> >Ratification (by the requisite thirty-six states) was completed on
> >February 3, 1913 with the ratification by New Mexico (but see Delaware
> >and Wyoming below). The amendment was subsequently ratified by the
> >following states, bringing the total number of ratifying states to
> >forty-two:
>
> >37. Delaware (February 3, 1913)
> >38. Wyoming (February 3, 1913)
> >39. New Jersey (February 4, 1913)
> >40. Vermont (February 19, 1913)
> >41. Massachusetts (March 4, 1913)
> >42. New Hampshire (March 7, 1913, after rejecting the amendment on
> >March 2, 1911)
>
> >And your evidence that these states did not, in fact ratify the
> >Amendment is.......?
>
> Ohio wasn't a state. Ratification is null and void because 3/4's of the
> states didn't ratify it.

They needed 36. In the end they had 42. Even if you discount Ohio,
you still have 41 state ratifying. Last time I checked, 41>36.

As far as Ohio not being a state: In 1802, Congress passed a bill that
authorized the formation of a state government in Ohio, and in 1803,
Ohio was admitted to the Union as the 17th state (hint, 1803 is before
1911 when they ratified the 16th). This is according to Ohio's own
history. And Ohio State Law, General Provisions, Chapter 5: State
Insignia; Seals: Holidays states: "The first day of March is
designated as "Ohio statehood day," in recognition of the date in 1803
when Ohio became a state."

There were enough states ratifying the Sixteenth Amendment even
without Ohio to complete the number needed for ratification.
Furthermore, the U.S. Supreme Court upheld the constitutionality of
the income tax laws enacted subsequent to ratification of the
Sixteenth Amendment in Brushaber v. Union Pacific R.R.

It was ratified. Quit lying.

YolBolsun,
Grendel.

"Have all the opinions you want, they're free. Just don't confuse
them with reality."-Solomon Short.

 

[www.freedomtofascism.com]

On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 17:54:36 -0700, wsthomas@bellsouth.net wrote:

>On Jun 25, 9:23 pm, www.freedomtofascism.com <t...@r.us> wrote:
>> On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 19:13:47 -0700,Grendel<wstho...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> >On Jun 25, 8:45 pm,www.freedomtofascism.com<t...@r.us> wrote:
>> >> On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 17:04:10 GMT, tgm <t...@verizon.net> wrote:
>> >> >The 16th Amendment was then passed in 1913.
>>
>> >> No it wasn't. It was never ratified.
>>
>> >> --
>> >> Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com
>>
>> >On February 25, 1913, the Republican Secretary of State Philander Knox
>> >proclaimed
>>
>> Proclamations are never based in evidence.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >that the amendment had been ratified by the necessary three-
>> >quarters of the states ensuring the constitutionality of unapportioned
>> >federal income taxes.
>>
>> >According to the United States Government Printing Office, the
>> >following states ratified the amendment:
>>
>> >Alabama (August 10, 1909)
>> >Kentucky (February 8, 1910)
>> >South Carolina (February 19, 1910)
>> >Illinois (March 1, 1910)
>> >Mississippi (March 7, 1910)
>> >Oklahoma (March 10, 1910)
>> >Maryland (April 8, 1910)
>> >Georgia (August 3, 1910)
>> >Texas (August 16, 1910)
>> >Ohio (January 19, 1911)
>> >Idaho (January 20, 1911)
>> >Oregon (January 23, 1911)
>> >Washington (January 26, 1911)
>> >Montana (January 27, 1911)
>> >Indiana (January 30, 1911)
>> >California (January 31, 1911)
>> >Nevada (January 31, 1911)
>> >South Dakota (February 1, 1911)
>> >Nebraska (February 9, 1911)
>> >North Carolina (February 11, 1911)
>> >Colorado (February 15, 1911)
>> >North Dakota (February 17, 1911)
>> >Michigan (February 23, 1911)
>> >Iowa (February 24, 1911)
>> >Kansas (March 2, 1911)
>> >Missouri (March 16, 1911)
>> >Maine (March 31, 1911)
>> >Tennessee (April 7, 1911)
>> >Arkansas (April 22, 1911, after having previously rejected the
>> >amendment)
>> >Wisconsin (May 16, 1911)
>> >New York (July 12, 1911)
>> >Arizona (April 3, 1912)
>> >Minnesota (June 11, 1912)
>> >Louisiana (June 28, 1912)
>> >West Virginia (January 31, 1913)
>> >New Mexico (February 3, 1913)
>>
>> >Ratification (by the requisite thirty-six states) was completed on
>> >February 3, 1913 with the ratification by New Mexico (but see Delaware
>> >and Wyoming below). The amendment was subsequently ratified by the
>> >following states, bringing the total number of ratifying states to
>> >forty-two:
>>
>> >37. Delaware (February 3, 1913)
>> >38. Wyoming (February 3, 1913)
>> >39. New Jersey (February 4, 1913)
>> >40. Vermont (February 19, 1913)
>> >41. Massachusetts (March 4, 1913)
>> >42. New Hampshire (March 7, 1913, after rejecting the amendment on
>> >March 2, 1911)
>>
>> >And your evidence that these states did not, in fact ratify the
>> >Amendment is.......?
>>
>> Ohio wasn't a state. Ratification is null and void because 3/4's of the
>> states didn't ratify it.
>
>They needed 36. In the end they had 42. Even if you discount Ohio,
>you still have 41 state ratifying. Last time I checked, 41>36.
>
>As far as Ohio not being a state: In 1802, Congress passed a bill that
>authorized the formation of a state government in Ohio, and in 1803,
>Ohio was admitted to the Union as the 17th state (hint, 1803 is before
>1911 when they ratified the 16th). This is according to Ohio's own
>history. And Ohio State Law, General Provisions, Chapter 5: State
>Insignia; Seals: Holidays states: "The first day of March is
>designated as "Ohio statehood day," in recognition of the date in 1803
>when Ohio became a state."
>
>There were enough states ratifying the Sixteenth Amendment even
>without Ohio to complete the number needed for ratification.
>Furthermore, the U.S. Supreme Court upheld the constitutionality of
>the income tax laws enacted subsequent to ratification of the
>Sixteenth Amendment in Brushaber v. Union Pacific R.R.
>
>It was ratified. Quit lying.

War is peace.

Yer pal,
G. Orwell
>
>YolBolsun,
>Grendel.
>
>"Have all the opinions you want, they're free. Just don't confuse
>them with reality."-Solomon Short.


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