sandman5140
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By Barbara J. Stock
Aug 23, 2005
Pacifist Cindy Sheehan has said repeatedly,
Aug 23, 2005
Pacifist Cindy Sheehan has said repeatedly,
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Let's be realistic... your dad, brother, sister or fellow American was killed in Desert Storm and then Saddam pissed on him and dared you to do something about it...Rotwang said:It never ceases to amaze me how these proponents for a war nobody wanted can twist and misrepresent flawed logic to make it sound so perfectly RIGHT (pun intended).
It cannot have escaped this correspondents notice that the very reason Iraq is in such chaos, and the potential for civilian slaughter is so high is because America and its coalition invaded in the first place.
Yet to read this propaganda, you have to keep reminding yourself that America did not HAVE to prosecute this invasion.
There was, and is, NO evidence of the weapons that were the pretext for the conflict. There is FAR more evidence that the Saudi's finance and support terrorism than Iraq ever did.
Sure, as a nation Iraq was hardly a model of America's idea of a modern, democratic and free society, but what has that got to do with America?
Lets be realistic. There are very few nations on earth, if any, who wish to emulate America's political system. Even Americans berate it. It is neither fair nor just, and cannot rightly claim to represent the view of the entire population. So, why should Iraq's?
Hussein was a contemptible psychopath.
So was Pinochet. So was the Shah Of Iran. So was Ferdinand Marcos.
The real casualty of the Iraq war will be the US. Iraq will become a Muslim fundamentalist state, just like Iran. America has as much hope of transplanting its version of "democracy" in Iraq, as George Bush has of getting every American to pray to Mecca twice a day.
In the meantime, right wing spinners will pillory "pacifists" on the basis that to criticise the President is anti American, and to seek withdrawal will hand a fait accompli to the terrorists.
If the terrorists are so potent and capable as to take captive a country of 20 million people, despite the removal of Hussein and his henchmen, what does THAT tell you?
All the Iraqi war has done is to move 200,000 Americans within range of Arab guns and bombs. Vietnam taught America nothing, and so Iraq will be the catastrophic failure everyone feared it would be, and Iraq will descend into chaos that only fear can control.
Crispy Critter said:Let's be realistic...
Americans like you just wouldn't put up with us killing the enemy without them wearing uniforms or being found guilty in a court. If it has to be slow to please you then more people will die to please you... and to support your anti war cries...
The Sunni's marched in the streets praising the Al Sadder crew for killing non Sunni's and American's in protest to the draft constitution so if they proclaim to have Burger King and have it their way then the absense of them would allow peace to return to the nation... or do you think their worship of non sunni killing including Americans is a good thing? Hold a fist in defiance and be carpet bombed or use political methods to resolve differences to avoid the carpet bombing. To suck the Sunni's dick will only prolong the battle... just kill them all and return to peace.Vortex said:What is wrong with not agreeing with unnecessary slaugher of innocent people (or the great christian phrase to invoke sympathy "innocent women and children"..).
Frankly im appalled that a parent of young children thinking carpet bombing is the answer and will get the job done so we can all go home. Not many people are proud of being a cold blooded killer....im actually quite suprised!
I realize you are vastly pro war, and i am opposite of that....but being prowar and suggesting bombing indiscriminately is very irresponsible...
Crispy Critter said:The Sunni's marched in the streets praising the Al Sadder crew for killing non Sunni's and American's in protest to the draft constitution so if they proclaim to have Burger King and have it their way then the absense of them would allow peace to return to the nation... or do you think their worship of non sunni killing including Americans is a good thing? Hold a fist in defiance and be carpet bombed or use political methods to resolve differences to avoid the carpet bombing. To suck the Sunni's dick will only prolong the battle... just kill them all and return to peace.
Mr X said:Actually the withdrawl of the u.s in iraq...maybe a victory for islam...but it will be short lived...it will end up with muslims killing muslims with arabs/turks/foreign mujahids/kurds/Iranians getting in for a free for all.
They rely on dumb shits who like you have only one agenda in mind," poor pitiful me." quit being an assinine ashole and admit that the muslims share some of the blame for this. I am not refering to the average citizen of these countries. I am trying to point out the fact that rulers, politicians and religous leader cause the wars and bloodshed of this world, and always have. Unless you have a closed mind,such as allah is the only answer jerk,or any of you reading this who go to the other extreme. we could exist without trying kill each other.
Crispy Critter said:Let's be realistic... your dad, brother, sister or fellow American was killed in Desert Storm and then Saddam pissed on him and dared you to do something about it...
The war is just and will be won but a quick victory would require us to carpet bomb the Sunni demonstration against peace today in support of the terror... Americans like you just wouldn't put up with us killing the enemy without them wearing uniforms or being found guilty in a court. If it has to be slow to please you then more people will die to please you... and to support your anti war cries...
RoyalOrleans said:The internet.
Rotwang said:See, this really pisses me off...
By what leap of logic do you ASSUME I am American?? The world is NOT filled with Americans. The world, despite the rhetoric and propaganda of your politicians, does NOT rotate around an American hub. There are for more nations and cultures in existence than America.
Your response typifies the attitude of many of your countryfolk - you are so sheltered and ignorant from the world that anything or anyone NOT American is beyond your feeble contemplation.
I am not anti-American per se, and respect Americans in many ways. Kindly reciprocate that respect.
TWorld PoliceA said:Maybie he thought you were an American because you were talking about our business like you lived here? Take care of your ****ing problems and we'll take care of ours!
I find it funny how your conservative Government is Bush's puppet!...LOL What do you think about that?
TWorld PoliceA said:Maybie he thought you were an American because you were talking about our business like you lived here? Take care of your ****ing problems and we'll take care of ours!
I find it funny how your conservative Government is Bush's puppet!...LOL What do you think about that?