Outlaw2747
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PREACH ON MY BROTHA!!! PREACH ON!!!
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Rockhard
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Human nature will not let communism work if you look at it closely, communism is very close to the teaching of christianity. sacrificing personal gain and riches for the good of the world as a whole. Ironic isn't it. Personally I am for the captilist way of life in a truly Democratic society. Nazis are and have always been very similar to what is happening in the USA today. America is becoming the axis of evil.
Remember the school yard When you did something wrong point to some else, or another group and say "they made me do it". Congress and the senate are the grown up version of the play ground of your youth, doesn't that give you a warm and fuzzy feeling.
my point from this shaky soap box is, Don't make the same mistake Germany did in the 30's
Remember the school yard When you did something wrong point to some else, or another group and say "they made me do it". Congress and the senate are the grown up version of the play ground of your youth, doesn't that give you a warm and fuzzy feeling.
my point from this shaky soap box is, Don't make the same mistake Germany did in the 30's
AmericanBeauty
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Who is worse ..... IMO, Nazis
fullauto
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KV... you really need to stop calling republican Nazis.... They are not even close... you calling them that is just showcasing the fact that you don't really have any education supporting your VERY naive opinions...
calling the republican Nazis is like calling all black people ******s... it's just a broad blanket statement that just displays your ignorance....
calling the republican Nazis is like calling all black people ******s... it's just a broad blanket statement that just displays your ignorance....
Interesting how people evaluate political ideology by the number of people said ideology killed.
By that measure, capitalism too has much to answer for.
However, if you wish to address the question intellectually, rather then emotionally, you need to separate the ideology from its neophytes who acted under its authority, but not necessarily under its morality. Hitler did not kill because Fascism as an ideology advocates slaughtering its opponents, nor did Stalin. Nor did Osama Bin Laden. They killed because they were and are demented psychopaths who would kill in the cause of the Red Cross if that was the cause they believed in.
In fact, fascism and communism are in many ways indistinguishable. Contrary to popular opinion, it was not Hitler than conceived of the fascist form of Government, but Mussolini.
And Mussolini derived it from his view that while communism had much going for it, it described as an objective a global paradise dominated by a single ideology as espoused by Lenin, but perverted by Stalin to mean turn the world Russian.
Therefore, communism in his view was simply a means for global domination by the Bolshevik Russians, and most countries regarded them as subhuman troglodytes.
So Mussolini said lets have socialist ideals such as centralised government, and single party representation, but let us develop socialism on a national, rather than global basis. In other words, look after our own countries first.
Hitler took it a little further, in that he sought to "re-unite" those countries that were historically part of the Prussian empire, so that as a single nation under fascism it would be the strongest nation in humanity's history. In creating this "Reich", it was also necessary to purify the inhabitants by removing non-Prussians, specifically the Jews (he dismissed blacks and Asians as irrelevant).
Where your views go awry is that you confuse dictatorship with their underlying ideology. Dictators slaughter their citizens and those of other countries for a whole swathe of reasons. Examples are Rwanda, Kampuchea, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Iraq and Uganda.
America is probably very close to being categorised as fascist, especially if the neo-cons manage to maintain power through puppet Presidents, but has not yet deteriorated into slaughtering its own through government invoked military operations, or draconian legislation.
But its a lot closer than many Americans realise. The most disconcerting aspect is that it continues to drift in that direction.
By that measure, capitalism too has much to answer for.
However, if you wish to address the question intellectually, rather then emotionally, you need to separate the ideology from its neophytes who acted under its authority, but not necessarily under its morality. Hitler did not kill because Fascism as an ideology advocates slaughtering its opponents, nor did Stalin. Nor did Osama Bin Laden. They killed because they were and are demented psychopaths who would kill in the cause of the Red Cross if that was the cause they believed in.
In fact, fascism and communism are in many ways indistinguishable. Contrary to popular opinion, it was not Hitler than conceived of the fascist form of Government, but Mussolini.
And Mussolini derived it from his view that while communism had much going for it, it described as an objective a global paradise dominated by a single ideology as espoused by Lenin, but perverted by Stalin to mean turn the world Russian.
Therefore, communism in his view was simply a means for global domination by the Bolshevik Russians, and most countries regarded them as subhuman troglodytes.
So Mussolini said lets have socialist ideals such as centralised government, and single party representation, but let us develop socialism on a national, rather than global basis. In other words, look after our own countries first.
Hitler took it a little further, in that he sought to "re-unite" those countries that were historically part of the Prussian empire, so that as a single nation under fascism it would be the strongest nation in humanity's history. In creating this "Reich", it was also necessary to purify the inhabitants by removing non-Prussians, specifically the Jews (he dismissed blacks and Asians as irrelevant).
Where your views go awry is that you confuse dictatorship with their underlying ideology. Dictators slaughter their citizens and those of other countries for a whole swathe of reasons. Examples are Rwanda, Kampuchea, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Iraq and Uganda.
America is probably very close to being categorised as fascist, especially if the neo-cons manage to maintain power through puppet Presidents, but has not yet deteriorated into slaughtering its own through government invoked military operations, or draconian legislation.
But its a lot closer than many Americans realise. The most disconcerting aspect is that it continues to drift in that direction.
papabryant
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^-------------- Is he in the final stages of syphilis or something?
OmegaManiac
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That mistake, for those who were not paying attention was, not securing the oil neccessary to fuel the war effort. If not for that, we would probably all be speaking german.
Komrade Vostok Hazard
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What peers? Most of my so-called peers shove money grabbing materialist pack rat yuppie bullshit down my throat even more than you and everyone else on here put together could ever even begin to dream abou. I'll magically become some kind of capitalist pig at 25? Dream on. I don't care to be rich now, I won't care then. And as for the expensive materialism involved? Who needs that ****? I sure as **** don't. If you want a mansion on a beach in Malaysia, and about five sports cars parked out front, go for it. But don't think for a minute I'm going to go for it.
Komrade Vostok Hazard
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Because Crapitalism tends to be the bullshit in the heads of everyone who disagrees with my views. If that's not what you people think i'm going to magically become when I wake up on the morning of my 25th birthday, then tell me what you DO think will happen.
Komrade Vostok Hazard
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Well, I know you're stupified. That's nothing new, and it's probably a chronic condition you have. so I'll just make it really simple:
You say I'm going to completely change around the time I turn 25
And I don't buy that
Usually people who ***** about communists all the time are compulsive capitalists
I assume you think that's what you think I'm going to magically change into
You say it's not nessicarly going to be that way because there are other views
So, little miss psychic that knows everything that's going to happen in my future
What the **** do you think is going to happen to me?
You say I'm going to completely change around the time I turn 25
And I don't buy that
Usually people who ***** about communists all the time are compulsive capitalists
I assume you think that's what you think I'm going to magically change into
You say it's not nessicarly going to be that way because there are other views
So, little miss psychic that knows everything that's going to happen in my future
What the **** do you think is going to happen to me?
OK I challenge you to find one time that I have so much implied that you will or should turn into a comunist. You have your head so far up your **** you have no idea that there is more to life and the world than Capitolism vs comunism. As far as turning 25 it has nothing at all to do with political affiliation but rather with somekind of enllightnement (not the right word but the closest I got at the moment) It's a kind of rite of passage, or a transition from adolesence to adulthood that opens the eye up to the world outside of our own ****. 25 just seems to be about the time that tends to happen (across all cultures) It's when (without warning) one becomes a grown up.
So.... for now you are still allowed to continue sniffing the aparent roses that MUST be oozing from your lower colon, but be aware that like everyone else on here when you say something stupid, someone will let oyu know about it
So.... for now you are still allowed to continue sniffing the aparent roses that MUST be oozing from your lower colon, but be aware that like everyone else on here when you say something stupid, someone will let oyu know about it
OmegaManiac
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KVH opens his sleep filled eyes..........yawn. Looks around the room colorfully decorated with a variety of posters, band paraphanalia, and other such items related to "teen individuality". " Wow I'm 25 years old. Mom! where's my double headed *****?" Removes ***** from ***."nevermind, found it." Packs bowl of weed he stole from his mommy's drawer and begins the day. Grabs clothes from the floor and gives a quick sniff"Eh, not too bad" " Off to the mall to hang out with my (friends)". Takes car that is paid for by mommy to the local mall, parks close because walking is lame. Makes comments about all the ****** up mall ***** going into the trendy stores, and makes his way to (spencers) or any other store of equal value, cause they are the "cool stores". Buys some new ****, collars, fishnets, Dio T-shirts with the money that mommy gave him to clean his room. Hangs out with his shitheel friends (after they get out of school for the day) ******** about the ****** up capitolist blah blah blah......
Hey, I don't even know you but You opened up this mental picture and it just kinda grew from there......Hope your not one of those soft skinned little wannabe's that's gonna get all offended and try to "lash out " with some teen-age "got the world by the *****" wisdom and make a rectal pie out of yourself........
Komrade Vostok Hazard
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I already am a COMMMUNIST, I'm not going to turn into something I already am
I'm perfectly aware of that, but hey, it's still part of (MY) life. Not all of it, but defnately part of it.
But you are implying the way I think will change. (You and your buddies clearly don't know already. Your pal fullauto thinks I believe my beliefs because my peers-which are non existant have whatever opinions. Hardly the truth) I don't plan on changing THAT that any time.
It's only stupid because you said so. Face it. YOUR HEAD IS UP YOUR ***.