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OK, let me be the FIRST to admit I suck at political debate. But, I will say this. I do believe in Impeaching the president, but the guy who is leading the charge to do it, is the wrong guy. This I can at least agree on. Like I had said before, the guy is too far left for me. And I also see him wanting to Impeach, almost as a sign of poor sportsmanship in the election. And I'm sure others would view it the same way. Bush was voted on by a majority. It wasn't REALLY a close race at all. Although he may have lost some support NOW, I'm sure a majority still think he should be our President. I am also NOT against war at all. North Korea...NUKE EM.. Iran, NUKE EM.. TALIBAN/Al Quada, NUKE EM... The problem I have, is when a country we go to war with is, for the most part NOT our enemies, then INCREASE there number of enemies because we are there, something is WRONG. You could blame it on other extremists coming in from other countries to keep Iraq in turmoil, but it still doesn't matter. You need to go back to the initial justification of the war and see if the same philosophy still holds true. And, in this case, IT DOESN'T. I'm not gonna argue that congress ultimately agreed on going in. DUH.. or that John Kerry also supported going in. But it is the FACTS of the situation that were presented to congress to make them vote in such a manor, that to are me... grounds for impeachment. If we were to have a round table of GF members, and Bob was the CHIEF of the members, and he said we needed to kick, oh we'll say Royal Orleans out, because he had heard R.O. was part of a rouge league of BBS users who RAPED BBS boards for fun, and we all agreed on just Bobs word alone. But then come to find out, this was not at all true.. WHO DO YOU BLAME ?? You blame the guy who come to you with all this alleged proof, and you blame his staff who's job it is to confirm this proof. THIS is how I feel George Bush USED congress to get what he wanted. Anybody noticed were not hunting TERRORISTS in IRAQ anymore... WERE JUST HUNTING INSURGENTS. Insurgents, who would have never been there, if we just pulled out when what we were looking for, was proven not to be there. And I for one am sick of hearing anything like "OH, BUT THERE STILL MIGHT BE SOMETHING, WE NEED TO STAY THERE TO FIND IT" bullshit. Let IRAQ handle its own problem now, our job is done. . .

Articles of Impeachment of President George W. Bush and Vice President Richard B. Cheney, Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld, and Attorney General John David Ashcroft The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors. - - ARTICLE II, SECTION 4 OF THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA President George W. Bush, Vice President Richard B. Cheney, Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld, and Attorney General John David Ashcroft have committed violations and subversions of the Constitution of the United States of America in an attempt to carry out with impunity crimes against peace and humanity and war crimes and deprivations of the civil rights of the people of the United States and other nations, by assuming powers of an imperial executive unaccountable to law and usurping powers of the Congress, the Judiciary and those reserved to the people of the United States, by the following acts: 1) Seizing power to wage wars of aggression in defiance of the U.S. Constitution, the U.N. Charter and the rule of law; carrying out a massive assault on and occupation of Iraq, a country that was not threatening the United States, resulting in the death and maiming of tens of thousands of Iraqis, and hundreds of U.S. G.I.s. 2) Lying to the people of the U.S., to Congress, and to the U.N., providing false and deceptive rationales for war. 3) Authorizing, ordering and condoning direct attacks on civilians, civilian facilities and locations where civilian casualties were unavoidable. 4) Threatening the independence and sovereignty of Iraq by belligerently changing its government by force and assaulting Iraq in a war of aggression. 4) Authorizing, ordering and condoning assassinations, summary executions, kidnappings, secret and other illegal detentions of individuals, torture and physical and psychological coercion of prisoners to obtain false statements concerning acts and intentions of governments and individuals and violating within the United States, and by authorizing U.S. forces and agents elsewhere, the rights of individuals under the First, Fourth, Fifth, Sixth and Eighth Amendments to the Constitution of the United States, the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, and the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights. 5) Making, ordering and condoning false statements and propaganda about the conduct of foreign governments and individuals and acts by U.S. government personnel; manipulating the media and foreign governments with false information; concealing information vital to public discussion and informed judgment concerning acts, intentions and possession, or efforts to obtain weapons of mass destruction in order to falsely create a climate of fear and destroy opposition to U.S. wars of aggression and first strike attacks. 6) Violations and subversions of the Charter of the United Nations and international law, both a part of the "Supreme Law of the land" under Article VI, paragraph 2, of the Constitution, in an attempt to commit with impunity crimes against peace and humanity and war crimes in wars and threats of aggression against Afghanistan, Iraq and others and usurping powers of the United Nations and the peoples of its nations by bribery, coercion and other corrupt acts and by rejecting treaties, committing treaty violations, and frustrating compliance with treaties in order to destroy any means by which international law and institutions can prevent, affect, or adjudicate the exercise of U.S. military and economic power against the international community. 7) Acting to strip United States citizens of their constitutional and human rights, ordering indefinite detention of citizens, without access to counsel, without charge, and without opportunity to appear before a civil judicial officer to challenge the detention, based solely on the discretionary designation by the Executive of a citizen as an "enemy combatant." 8) Ordering indefinite detention of non-citizens in the United States and elsewhere, and without charge, at the discretionary designation of the Attorney General or the Secretary of Defense. 9) Ordering and authorizing the Attorney General to override judicial orders of release of detainees under INS jurisdiction, even where the judicial officer after full hearing determines a detainee is wrongfully held by the government. 10) Authorizing secret military tribunals and summary execution of persons who are not citizens who are designated solely at the discretion of the Executive who acts as indicting official, prosecutor and as the only avenue of appellate relief. 11) Refusing to provide public disclosure of the identities and locations of persons who have been arrested, detained and imprisoned by the U.S. government in the United States, including in response to Congressional inquiry. 12) Use of secret arrests of persons within the United States and elsewhere and denial of the right to public trials. 13) Authorizing the monitoring of confidential attorney-client privileged communications by the government, even in the absence of a court order and even where an incarcerated person has not been charged with a crime. 14) Ordering and authorizing the seizure of assets of persons in the United States, prior to hearing or trial, for lawful or innocent association with any entity that at the discretionary designation of the Executive has been deemed "terrorist." 15) Institutionalization of racial and religious profiling and authorization of domestic spying by federal law enforcement on persons based on their engagement in noncriminal religious and political activity. 16) Refusal to provide information and records necessary and appropriate for the constitutional right of legislative oversight of executive functions. 17) Rejecting treaties protective of peace and human rights and abrogation of the obligations of the United States under, and withdrawal from, international treaties and obligations without consent of the legislative branch, and including termination of the ABM treaty between the United States and Russia, and rescission of the authorizing signature from the Treaty of Rome which served as the basis for the International Criminal Court. . .

Bullshit, George W. Bush single handly made me into a DEMOCRAT. This guy should be IMPEACHED, charged with HIGH TREASON, and EXECUTED. He gives Republicans a bad name, hes taken away MANY Libertys with just the Patriot Act alone. He has ensured that the United States of America lays in a POLICE STATE. He flat out LIED about reasons to go after Saddam. If the people if IRAQ, had wanted to be Liberated, then the SECTARIAN difference alone well outnumbered Saddams forces. They did not need help from America, nor did they ask. It just amazes me sometimes, how people can have this HATRED (and rightfully so) of extremists, yet somehow let this same fire of hatred misguide them into believeing the words of George W. Bush. Its like 2 guys slugging it out on the street, the bigger guy kicks the shit out of the littler guy because he knows where his partner who had pissed him off and cheap shotted him once, is hiding, then, in a turn of events, someone (George) tells this bigger guy that another person is talking smack too. Being still enraged, the big guy doesn't really think too much about anything but going after the other mother fucker, with no real proof of anything... Just rage in his eyes... Abu Ghirab, Gitmo, you name it.. All the great injustice to Muslims we hear about from soldiers, are NOT fueled by the premise of Liberty to Iraq, but by the HATRED of BIN LADEN, and the events of 9/11. You don't see thses guys fucking pissing on a Koran because of something SADDAM did, or for any crimes against IRAQI'S. Its focused hatred on MUSLIMS !! When it should have been focused on BIN LADEN AND ONLY BIN LADEN. Why else would the commander in chief allow Bin Laden to excape from Tora Bora ?? If he had captured / killed the mother fucker then, he knows damn well, for the most part... the war would be over. So instead of bringing in more troops and killing the son of a bitch, he changed the mission and directive to somewhere not even close to where Bin Laden was.. his excuse... they might wanna kill us too, but we must set them free... YEAH BULLSHIT !! For one thing Saddam would have had to create a VERY LONG RANGE WEAPON... CAPABILITYS HE NEVER HAD... also, do we ever hear anything about IRAQ having nukes being built ??? Surely there is lots of concern over North Korea and Iran... things they openly admit... yet NONE IN IRAQ... This was a FLAW in Bush's stroy of WMD, along with the chemical weapons. Does anybody recall the first couple of days going into IRAQ ?? Soldiers were issued chemical masks for fear of Saddam releasing gasses on the troops... what REALLY happened... they expended what couple SCUD missles they had towards Kuwait, which were batted out of the sky by our military. The army, for the most part... GAVE UP. It is only after STAYING there, did an INSURGENCY come about. Not because these people despise Americans, but because they simply want there land to themselves, and not dictated by another country... Kind of like the REVOLUTIONARY WAR fought by our ancestors many centurys ago. Tensions run high in Iraq, and an insurgency grows because of this same belief, that is supposed to be the message of LIBERTY, we should be sending them, when truely to be free and liberated, we must not let others control us. What is Liberty, if someone else is making sure you follow it ?? Saddams army, as it were... is gone. A new one formed, surely the insurgents do not outnumber, or have better weapons ?? And what are the demands of these insurgents who want us all dead.. What do they scream and proclaim every time.. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, PLEASE LEAVE, WE DON'T WANT TO KILL YOU, BUT WE WILL..PLEASE LEAVE, PLEASE LEAVE !!! AND THIS CRY GROWS LARGER AND LARGER EACH DAY, BY PEOPLE WHO WANT TO JUST LIVE THERE LIVES, AND WHO HAPPEN TO BE MUSLIM !! Its a fucking quagmire. If I heard an insurrgent say even ONCE that the reason they are killing someone is just because they hate America, then I would say... NUKE THE FUCKING MURDERS... But thats not what they scream and proclaim. They just want to live there lives. Like I had stated in another post. Liberty is not something you DEMAND of others. Liberty is something we fight for on our own. Putting a false sense into our troops heads that they were WANTED by Iraq by proclaiming they wanted a Liberation, is UN FUCKING AMERICAN. This mother fucker who killed MORE PEOPLE as a Governor of Texas then any other, is a sick demented fuck. He is using his higher office power to kill even more people. And worst of all, in case nobody has noticed, AMERICA, is NOW one of the most HATED countrys in the world. No, I'm sorry, this fucker needs IMPEACHED, CHARGED WITH HIGH TREASON, AND EXECUTED. For crimes against AMERICA , and LIBERTY. . .

The infidel board who had planned to attack, has simply chickened out. The flame war this weekend was a huge success, not to mention pretty damn funny. There rape of our boards, would prove useless, as the members here, have proven they can comeback HARD. The reason this flame war with each other was conducted in the GUEST FORUM, is because, as most of you know, the guest forum will soon be closed down. What happened, is we need a use for this extra forum besides the usual guest commentary. So might as well show our true power of flame in it, and still keep our usual topics in place. A couple of you had private messaged me about the idea of keeping the guest forum as a flame forum. To which my response, was that we were one or 2 steps ahead of you already. As you know, we had planned on naming the guest forum into the "PISS POT" instead. Others have suggested naming it into the "CARNAGE" forum, and a couple other names that were tossed at me. I say, LET THE MEMBERS DECIDE. So far, we have managed to not only have one hell of a debate forum, but have pushed PHP script to almost its limits in options, more is to come as time permits to get it all coded up and installed. So far we have: [ ]Shoutbox [ ]Live Chat [ ]Forums devoted to: What pisses you off, DEBATE, Speaking your mind about anything, linking to other sites,general usage members lounge,polling forum, questions and answers forum, feedback forum [ ]Private messaging system [ ]Member ranking system [ ]And soon, hopefully an all out FLAME forum to slam the shit out of each other. OPEN pic posting, like you have seen already. Just no PERSONAL THREATS OF HARM to others please. Its usually pretty easy to tell when someone is just joking around .vs wanting to ACTUALLY become violent with a fellow member. As time permits for Bob to complete the apps, (Bob does have a REAL LIFE you know) in whatever spare time he can muster, many other options will come. Like I said, PHP to its limits, and eventually beyond as GF evolves. What I am asking for now, is INPUT. How do you feel about the idea of leaving the guest forum as a flaming room ?? We could let members cast trolls or idiots into it, and they would have something to do, either flame someone, or earn respect back into the forums.. As well as members themselves who wanna stray away from our usual debates, just to talk a little trash about someone else. They can go there and be raunchy as hell. I would also like to hear OTHER name ideas. Once we get a bunch from other members, I'll start a new poll and put it to a vote. The 2 main names I have seen are, my idea of "PISS POT, and the other one I remember, calling it "CARNAGE HALL". So lets hear it ?? . .

I liked it. .' .

He has all his marbles, he's just missing the main shooter. . .

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I've talked to quite a few in PVT message, and they LOVE the idea that we let them go into the guest forum and flame the shit out of each otherwith no reprocussions from the Mods. A bunch want us to keep it that way. Close off the guest forum to guest and rename it.. A couple like the "CARNAGE" name, I like the "PISS POT", I am gonna put up a post asking members what they want to call it. The nice thing about it, is those who come to the site just to FLAME someone and NOT DEBATE will have there own little section to goto also. Plus, with letting MEMBERS toss each other into it for being total dipshit in the serious debates, its not really so bad a place to get tossed to, even kind of fun. Anybody who doesn't wanna see or respond to the flames, can simply NOT view the forum. I would predict we would need to BAN less people if we just cater to there vulgar needs in a section of there own. Letting members toss each other in makes them be more hard hitting and less off topic in the serious debates as well. I guess the only issue I would have, is it NEEDS to be closed off to the general publics view if there gonna post raunchy pics. And only available to view to members. And as for the Sucks500 gang, they are TRUE PUSSYS, they know damn well they can't compete with all the members lashing back if they try raping the boards...chicken shits. Were MUCH MORE original !!! Col. Cock even said he laughed his ass off at some of the comments. MUCH BETTER when there is WIT involved, and not stupid catch phases like "I SERIOUSLY HOPE SOMEONE SLASHES YOUR THROAT". GF 4 EVER !!!! . .

True dat playa, I have given POSITIVE REP many times to people who I disagree with, simply because they present a good arguement. Mohammad_Rots_In_Hell, being one of them. Tori, is a HIGHLY EDUCATED PERSON, if she disagrees with you, its her perogative, she can give you negative if she wants, she never does it to be spitefull, and niether does anyone else.. YOUR JOB, is to PROVE HER WRONG, not fucking CRY about it. THAT attitude will only get you tossed into the idiot box. Did you not read the Private message I send out to all new members ?? Try THIS post: http://Off Topic Forum.com/showthread.php?t=25321 Your debating is fine, but I strongly suggest you get over how others take your opinion, or visit www.whopissedyouoff.com .I'm sure THEY will defend you. Oh, and as for the negative you gave ME, it means SHIT, I outrank you by WELL OVER 2000 points, you little -1 point to me doesn't do diddly squat. You wanna prove your worth on THIS site, then you better learn quick, that EVERYBODY can think what they want of you, and can hate you or love your commentary. If you keep getting negative remarks, then maybe you should concider making more fucking sense instead of babbling on and on about something. Then fucking crying if someone else doesn't like what your saying. If you don't like the idea of someone disagreeing with you, then you do not belong here. FIGHTING WITH EACH OTHER, is what we do best. Members come to draw virtual blood in every subject, from the serious, to the down right stupid, not to cry about needing a fucking popularity vote, princess. The people who debate you here will run your candy ass into the ground REAL FAST, can't hack it, then get the fuck out .. AS A MATTER OF FACT... ITS POLL TIME !!! . .

You already pissed me off for crying about it.... OFF TO THE IDIOT BOX FOR A WEEK !!!

I agree, if your gonna CRY about a bad rep point, which really doesn't mean shit, you better leave now, it only gets worse. Edit: It was TORI the MODERATOR who said that, better not piss her off... . .

I just learned why you are called PARASITEGOD. . Your twin sister looks well. . .

Not like there is any hurry, the navigation on the site compared to most BBS boards is decent already. Nobody has really complained yet. (cept me). Cheap bastard. LOL http://Off Topic Forum.com/showthread.php?t=25378 . .

My new terrorist name is Kizz-Yerass-Goodbi . . http://ahmed-mohammed.mindswap.net/FakeID_Generator.php . .

Right now, as you read this post, you could you be a full-blown terrorist and not even know it! With the U.S. PATRIOT ACT giving the FBI (along with other alphabet agency groups) unlimited power to obtain personal bank records, internet logs, and all manner of private information - all without the need for any Probable Cause or a Warrant signed by a judge - you had better take the following quiz to find out if you need to turn yourself in before it's too late... Please answer each question with a YES or NO: 01. I believe in the original U.S.A. Constitution and Bill of Rights. 02. I believe that gold is real money. 03. I believe that silver is real money. 04. I believe in limited government power and authority. 05. I believe the Federal Reserve System is a private enterprise with private owners, and that there is nothing "Federal" about it. 06. I believe the Federal Reserve System should be abolished. 07. I believe in the right to own and hold my own land. 08. I believe the Federal Income Tax is applied unlawfully. 09. I believe in God. 10. I believe there is a 9/11 World Trade Center conspiracy to suppress facts and evidence. 11. I believe the Family, not the government, is the central foundational unit. 12. I believe the basis of the welfare state is wrong. 13. I believe the world financial markets are corrupt. 14. I believe the U.S. judiciary is corrupt. 15. I believe the U.S. body politic, from Congress down to local politicians, is corrupt. 19. I believe the U.S. Federal Government is bankrupt. 20. I believe the "War On Terrorism" is a well planned fraud. 21. I believe the U.S. Federal Reserve Note is a fraud. 22. I believe in privacy and the right to be left alone. 23. I believe in my sovereignty as a common citizen. 24. I believe the United Nations should be abolished. 25. I believe the stock markets are a criminal scheme. 26. I believe that most government statistics are falsified. 27. I believe most of the media is covertly controlled. 28. I believe Rumor Mill News is NOT covertly controlled. 29. I believe that Homeland Security is a direct threat to my common rights, freedom, and liberties as an American. 30. I believe in owning a gun, and in my common right to protect myself & my family with it, only if there is no other alternative available. 31. I believe that with the current U.S. judicial system, I am guilty until I can prove I am innocent. 32. I believe that codes, administrative rules, Attorneys, State Prosecutors, and judges are enforcing that which is not law. 33. I believe that U.S. Law Enforcement exercises too much force and authority, and does so unlawfully. 34. I believe the "War On Drugs" is a fraudulent scam. 35. I believe the Patriot Act must be abolished ASAP. 36. I believe America has now become a Police State. 37. I believe the Attorney BAR is a fraud and a scam to protect the interests of corruption. 38. I believe that an Attorney is not a lawyer. 39. I believe that which is legal is not necessarily lawful. 40. I believe common lawful rights supercede legal codes. IF YOU ANSWERED ANY QUESTIONS WITH A "YES", YOU ARE OFFICIALLY CLASSIFIED AS A TERRORIST UNDER THE PATRIOT ACT, AND SHOULD ASSUME THAT YOU WILL BE CAUGHT SOONER OR LATER. You can THANK George Bin Laden. [attach=full]177[/attach] [attach=full]178[/attach] . .

To post links to other crap,hence the name "SPAM", PAY ATTENTION BOY !!! HAVEN'T YOU NOTICED ALMOST ALL THE POST HAVE LINKS TO OTHER SITES ?? . .

so bookmark the bbs version then.. DUH !! Its a bug, because of the stickys if i remember corretly. .

Just You . .'

First thing you've said in over 25 posts or more that actually made some fucking sense. Keep it up and you might get out of the idiot box after all.

There is a spy amongst us. He has been targeted for termination. As well as, guilty of being a little bitch. . .

Concidered in the future doing a "My GF" setup for members (or maybe just premiums) where they could mave the category columns around, like Yahoo does. Like I can have my GF Forums on top if I wanted, and the shoutbox on the bottom, and an option to not only turn it off, but enlarge it.. etc etc... Or they could put there "WHOS ONLINE" list on type.... or did I ask you that once....hmm...I smoke (cigaretttes, uh yeah thats it) too much..damn nic fit. . .

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