9/11 -- Was it real?

linkinpark-1

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If our generation is being mislead already, I wonder what it's going to be like when we take control of the goverment...scary thought.
 

Clogz

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Question...I can't watch these videos, but if someone could tell me why they believe our government would throw to planes and a missile against thier own landmarks, civilians, soldiers, and cities, perhaps this would make more sense to me.
 

Clogz

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The War in Iraq.

Hamas in the Middle East.

The caricature protests.

The Nuclear Crisis in Iran.

The Middle East is a hotbed of aggression that keeps getting stirred up more, and more. I'm afriad of what might happen. We are so focused on Iraq now, that all these things we use to keep watch over are now spiraling out of control.

I think George Washington was right about isolationilism. And were paying for it by ignoring that.

 

Hahninator

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I think the US will keep going until all the world is democratic o_O

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060207/ap_on_re_us/moussaoui_trial

"ALEXANDRIA, Va. - Proclaiming "I am al-Qaida," terrorist conspirator Zacarias Moussaoui disrupted the opening of his sentencing trial Monday and was tossed out of court as selection began for the jurors who will decide whether he lives or dies."

No **** he's in al-Qaida. The US ******* trained al-Qaida. Talk about propaganda buddy. The US says they're all bad and stuff, but we're the ones that created them in the first place lmao. America founded al-Qaida to fight Russia, and I think we even got Muhammed whats his face (someone help me here) to run it, then he came back to the US, got al-Qaida all anti-USA, stole documents from military bases and passed them to his terrorist cell in NYC, etc. He was captured in 2001, the USA's MOST WANTED SUSPECT IN THE ENTIRE WORLD AT THE TIME. HOW THE **** DOES HE ESCAPE LESS THAN A YEAR LATER WITH NO MEDIA COVERAGE WHAT SO EVER? You can look up on Google that he was captured. You have to research your *** out to find out that he escaped from jail in the US. How the **** lol. Anyways, on to this guy. Yeah he's al-Qaida. ^_^

"He pleaded guilty last April to conspiring to fly planes into U.S. buildings but claims he had no role in the Sept. 11 plot."

Exactly. Even this ************ knows the US Government plotted 9/11. If he's guilty on 9/11 charges, then wtf.

Wow... lol long rant. Ill look up Mohammed whats his face and give more info on him. I research al-Qaida all the time and can't even remember his name ;_;

 

acdcrules04

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Thats some intense ****. Now, before you read another word that I type, I will tell you that what I'm going to say is coming from a completely biased point of view. I hate America, and I hate Bush. I find that its a **** of a lot easier to believe what those videos have to say than what the corupt government of the good 'ole U.S. of A. has to say. I can completely see them doing this. Not Bush, he's to stupid, he is just their ****. It makes a **** of a lot more sense, and you would be an idiot not to get something from these videos.
 

UnhingedMouse0

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I don't think so. If this is one of those big CIA coverups' date=' then they'll do a **** of a job keeping it secret for a VERY long time. But I think it will matter. 9/11 could have major consequences for the future, even in like 50 years. Something caused from 9/11 could influence the distant future.[/quote']Well of course 9/11 could influence the future and in fact, it already has. But these things can get leaked. Not too long ago there was a thread on here about how the US and Canada used to have plans on how to invade each other, but they didnt really matter anymore and were leaked/released a few decades later.

I just think that anyone would hold something that the US did (to itself) 30 years earlier, against them. Even if it was lying to the world. By then the leaders of our country would have nothing to do with the government of 30 years ago so how could they hold it against us? Its not like we are one corrupt person who made the decisions of 30 years ago and should therefore be held accountable. But who really knows? We will find out or we wont when that time comes... unless we get invaded by canada. :p

So lets all of us americans get up and move to Europe before anything happens. ;)

My words of wisdom:

The government lies, how much?, who knows, just take it for what it is and go on living your life, theres nothing you can do about it. :thumbsup:
 

Sygy

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well we will all find out in 50 years because thats when government files become public. im not to bothered. governments lie, people are mean, nothing we can do about it.
 

Friðbjörn

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Well of course 9/11 could influence the future and in fact, it already has. But these things can get leaked. Not too long ago there was a thread on here about how the US and Canada used to have plans on how to invade each other, but they didnt really matter anymore and were leaked/released a few decades later.
I just think that anyone would hold something that the US did (to itself) 30 years earlier, against them. Even if it was lying to the world. By then the leaders of our country would have nothing to do with the government of 30 years ago so how could they hold it against us? Its not like we are one corrupt person who made the decisions of 30 years ago and should therefore be held accountable. But who really knows? We will find out or we wont when that time comes... unless we get invaded by canada. :p

So lets all of us americans get up and move to Europe before anything happens. ;)

My words of wisdom:

The government lies, how much?, who knows, just take it for what it is and go on living your life, theres nothing you can do about it. :thumbsup:
Yeah, you make a good point.

I mean ok, people have a tendency of stopping to care about things that happened in the past, but that does however not make them any better. Of course, we should focus on the future, cause we can't fix the past. But still, we should look at the past, and mainly to learn from it.

Exactly. The best thing is to live on with your life. You can't know everything, and I've kinda accepted it, and have stopped thinkin and worrying about things. Like my user title says; I just don't give a ****.

Haha yeah by all means come, you're welcome :p

 

azemkamikaze03

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When they use the context real, I don't think they meant "Airplanes didn't Crash into the Towers." I mean obviously they did. I think he/she means that what the official explantion that the white house gave about it was probably fake.
 

waiting4thesun

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Yeah, I think that by "real" they mean that Middle Eastern hijackers were to blame. Saying it's not real (which is the truth) means it wasn't the Middle Eastern hijackers.

****, I'm so glad I took the time to watch that yesterday. I would've replied to it, but I didn't have time. Really, though, could a Boeing 747 or 757 make a hole that small and not leave any other marks? ******* impossible.

Bush, screw you.

[end rant]

 

azemkamikaze03

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Question...I can't watch these videos' date=' but if someone could tell me why they believe our government would throw to planes and a missile against thier own landmarks, civilians, soldiers, and cities, perhaps this would make more sense to me.[/quote']Don't know if you were able to recive and answer or not, but in the second video they cover it..Kinda.

Apparently back when kenedy was in office someone drew up plans to have a terrorist attack blame it on Cuba then invade them, but Kennedy was outraged and fired the guy who came up with the plan. The video didn't say it directly, but I'm guessing they infered that 9-11 was used as a method to get in Iraq.

Another thing brought in but really explained to well, is that WTC has an abundance of gold stashed in it. And when I say gold I mean money like crazy.. Not all of it's America's and mysteriously after 9-11 alot was missing. I think what Corey was getting at that is that there could be a greed fueling these attacks. I'm not to sure but that's what I grasped from the videos.
 

Fort_Underground

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I myself have heard of the conspiracy, and now am finding myself considering it. I do find it hard to believe that our own government would kill its own citizens and soliders to get approval to invade Iraq, but then again there have been stranger things. However by this logic, why hasn't our government done something to gain more support to invade Iran or North Korea? I myself as an American find myself dissapointed with my country. The government is so corrupt, people can win without getting the majority of the votes, and you can get away with anything if you have enough money. Anway back on track. I think these conspiators are slightly farfecthed, but who knows. Also about the George Washington Bridge, I never heard about it. I live in Texas, and I guess it wasn't big enough to make it on the news here. But now it seems more and more whispers about 9/11 are coming out. For anyone who hasnt seen The Boondocks, I recomned you do. But on that show the main character specifilcy says that "the government is lieing about 9/11" And now I find myself wandering that same thing. Also on the episdoe he says "Why was all the footage of the pentagon seized by the government and never seen again?" which is another good point. I myself have heard the song the DJ Wakka posted, and personally like it. Their beats and the fact its anti-bush. Yet though if you are to look at it, the whole thing that came out of it was "We must invade AFGHANASTAN and unite even more as a country" I mean, so much stuff came on about how America is stronger and more united because of that, so point there. And the other things is the Osama Bin Laden was known to be in AFGHANASATN, not Iraq. Which is why I oppose the move of my country to go their to disarm Saddam from his "Weapons of Mass Destruction" BTW cudos to the French for telling the truth, sorry my country wants to rule the world. And you might say what about all the innocent people? Well actually its not that much. Dictators murder 10's of thousands of people if they oppose them or seen as rebels, take Darfur for example. I myself have thought about joining my government simply to learn everything that has been a lie. How I wan't to know the truth, but that probably won't happen. But a few things still concern me about that theory, which is that it says 4 planes were hijacked and they all crashed. If a plane didn't crash into the Pentagon, then where the **** did it go, along with its passengers? Also that if this conspiracy is real, then how would a bomb in the Pentagon go unnoticed? Those I would like to know. But in my opinon, it seems out there but the 9/11 theory looks to me plausible.

P.S. The Colbbert Report on Monday made a helluva lot of fun outta Bush's State of the Union

 

LSUTiger

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I know this forum is full of pretty much high schoolers, but if you honestly believe a plane did not hit the pentagon, you are an embarrassment to every single physicist, engineer, and your country for being so stupid.

First off, the easiest part. If a plane didn't hit the pentagon, then why is that plane missing, as well as every passenger/pilot?

Now, for the common sense part to everybody that isn't a total idiot.

A boeing 757 is apporoximately 200 ft. long, and travels at 530 mph = 777 fps. That is the same speed as a bullet leaving a pistol! Folks, this plane travels 4 times its length EVERY SECOND! A camera runs apporximately 25 frames per second. That means everytime that camera takes a new picture, that plane has moved 1/6 it's length. That plane has no other option than to look like a missile. Oh, and anybody that knows airplane tails knows that's definitely a commercial airline tail.

Continuing.....

I suggest every single one of you that believes this horsehit google the terms "Fluid Mechanics" and "Structural Aerodynamic Engineering."

A boeing 757's cross section is only 13 ft. when you subtract the wingspan. Why subtract the wingspan? Because wings are made out of the lightest materials possible. A wing's job is to provide lift....THAT'S IT! It's job is not to stay intact when flying into a building! Those wings became toothpicks upon hitting the pentagon. And if anybody wants graphical analysis of how a Boeing 757 loses against a building, there's professors leading a comprehensive study here: http://www.cs.purdue.edu/homes/cmh/simulation/

Also, check here:

http://www.criticalthrash.com/terror/crashthumbnails.html

Also, USE YOUR COMMON SENSE!!!!

 

acdcrules04

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Then where were the wings? And the bodies? And the rest of the ******* plane for that matter?

Now, I'm not competly buying into this, I'm just exploring new possibilities.

 

LSUTiger

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You didn't listen to me. The structural integrity of an airplane wing is similar to you sticking your arm out the window of a car at 500 mph and trying to knock over a mailbox. Seriously, what's going to win that battle, your arm or the mailbox? Same with the wing going into a BUILDING. That building all but disintegrated those wings.

As far as the bodies...go light yourself on fire with jet fuel, and tell me what's left. Also, google the word "cremation."

Most of the rest of the plane suffered the same fate as the wings did...pure disintegration in the heat, but there were parts that can be identified through pictures, but I can't seem to find the website right now. When I do, I'll post the link. But you can clearly see remains of one of the turbine engines, and even the symbol of the commercial airline in the rubble.

 

shadowfax1007

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I beat LSUTiger is a secret government agent assigned to brainwash us :p

lol not really, he is right, there would be much left if the plane hit it at such a high speed, and he is also right about the wing design, man, i was in a plane a few months ago and we hit turbulence, I thought the wings were gonna fly off lol, they look so flimsy.

 
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