Activists say no letup for health protests

[ImWithStupid]

Are you listening to the President? He just said that the only reason he isn't forcing a single payer plan right now, is it would be too destructive of a transformation from the current employer based system, all at once and would have to be changed over time to get to a health care system, where it's Medicare for all, over time.

He admitted, it's his goal, and this is being put in place to get us there.

That said, I've never said that is all that's in this bill, but that I don't agree with any bill that will set the groundwork for a single payer, government controlled plan.

 

[phreakwars]

Yep, I heard him, and this is why I said before I don't like the SINGLE PAYER option, I'd rather have UNIVERSAL. The single payer is getting tossed around, much to the disappointment of many Democrats.

I also heard him mention something about medicare part D passed without being paid for, but his plan won't be signed unless it COULD be payed for. And then having these same guys who passed Medicare Part D accuse him of being the spender.

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[timesjoke]

I read the bill and posted the actual words.

Your trying to offer backflip definitions to what is written. Nothing you say is in the bill.

Obama has been telling lies about his program from day one, that is why he refuses to give specific answers to questions, all he will do is talk in vague terms.

Don't forget the 4 completely different versions in the senate, nobody knows right now what this will look like, but we do know that Obama wants to one day eliminate all private insurance, he has said it many times and even you have admitted that is the goal.

 

[ImWithStupid]

Yep, I heard him, and this is why I said before I don't like the SINGLE PAYER option, I'd rather have UNIVERSAL. The single payer is getting tossed around, much to the disappointment of many Democrats.
I also heard him mention something about medicare part D passed without being paid for, but his plan won't be signed unless it COULD be payed for. And then having these same guys who passed Medicare Part D accuse him of being the spender.

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It won't be paid for as drafted and I bet dollars to donuts that he signs it but just like the stimulus bill, he will use his own biased numbers to claim he did it in good faith.

The CBO said that the WH numbers were off on the stimulus, but when things weren't as the WH said they would be, they claimed that everyone was wrong.

That was a lie.

 

[timesjoke]

It won't be paid for as drafted and I bet dollars to donuts that he signs it but just like the stimulus bill, he will use his own biased numbers to claim he did it in good faith.
The CBO said that the WH numbers were off on the stimulus, but when things weren't as the WH said they would be, they claimed that everyone was wrong.

That was a lie.

Exactly, everything Obama says is a lie, they will gin up some false numbers to pretend they are paying for this when in reality it will not be funded, not even by half.