timesjoke
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I asked RO to make a new thread but he does not want to so I am making one for him being as he is still posting in that other thread.
Okay, the first and most important thing to remember is God made man, man made the various religions and written works in his futile attempt to both understand and worship him. There is no command from God to follow any one 'religion' only to have faith.
The Bible was never intended to be a history book, it was a teaching tool filled with ideas and concepts to teach the populace some general morals to live by in a time where almost everyone was illiterate. The general populace having the ability to actually read a Bible is a very recent situation and there are some very dense populations in the world where most people still cannot read.
The truth is not in any work of man, but is instead inside each of us to find if we allow ourselves to find it, so the key is to look inward, not outward for our answers in the spiritual world.
Now, the most basic idea of evolution is that beneficial traits are added to life forms as they are living their life because some element is changing in their existence to force that change.
A fish has some driving force to want to walk on land so it develops legs and goes for a walk, but evolution tells us that at best, it will take thousands of years to begin the transformation but by that time, whatever was threatening or pushing the fish out of the water is already done. And while we are at it, who sent out the memo to tell all the lifeforms to stop evolving?
Interesting to say the least, now lets look at a little reality:
In the animal world anything that looks diffderent is either destroyed or is not given the chance to mate. Even if a new trait for a fish to grow legs were to happen, he would not get to pass on his new trait because the other fish would see his deformities and not give him a chance to pass on his genetic information.
Then of course there is the pesky DNA science that tells us two very important things that are not theory but are instead hard science.
1 - All life comes from other life, life cannot happen out of nothing.
2 - All traits in a lifeform come from it's parents so new information cannot be introduced. Many fast talking evolution theory addicts have tried to answer to this but again, everything they offer is theory compared to hard science.
The first one is really the most important though, multi billion dollar labs have been trying to make life start from nothing for over 30 years. They can now simulate thousands of years in just a week or two and can create thousands of combinations of what was available at the time every day and still, they fail. The best they came up with is Frankenstein cells where they cobbled together parts of already existing cells but they don't survive.
When billion dollar labs cannot create life on purpose with endless combinations of natural elements cannot create one living cell, how is it these evolution theory guys believe billions were created completely by accident?
And accident is my best closing comment.
Looking at just the human eye, we see what amounts to something more complex than every invention ever created by man, it is light years away from the most complex video recorder we can buy and that took hundreds of years of human design with practice and error to make it. Then we look at all the other systems of the human body, our reproductive system, out nervous system, everything one massive complex system after another that humans can't even begin to understand enough to create and all working together seamlessly in harmony.........all acidents?
Then lets look at every life form in the world each with it's own set of perfectly working systems of survival and reproduction.....all acidents?
Combined together we have trillions upon trillions of benificial accidents one after the other each requiring a huge degree of perfection to work and each getting that perfection.....all acidents?
You want to talk about faith........well I believe anyone who thinks the Earth has that much pure luck in it to cause that many purely positive accidents of perfection.......well to me that requires more faith than the average follower of God ever has to hold to his heart.
Me?
I say there is not that much luck in the world to produce endless numbers of beneficial accidents one after the other each resulting in a perfect balance for survival. I believe there was something guiding that perfection, now I can't prove my feeling any more than anyone can prove evolution happened but I know what I feel. I feel love for my children but there is no measuring stick that can prove I feel love, just an understanding between humans that have felt love and understand that feeling between each other. Many humans never feel love for another person either, so is their never having found love mean the rest of us are crazy or delusional because they never allowed themselves to feel love?
Okay, the first and most important thing to remember is God made man, man made the various religions and written works in his futile attempt to both understand and worship him. There is no command from God to follow any one 'religion' only to have faith.
The Bible was never intended to be a history book, it was a teaching tool filled with ideas and concepts to teach the populace some general morals to live by in a time where almost everyone was illiterate. The general populace having the ability to actually read a Bible is a very recent situation and there are some very dense populations in the world where most people still cannot read.
The truth is not in any work of man, but is instead inside each of us to find if we allow ourselves to find it, so the key is to look inward, not outward for our answers in the spiritual world.
Now, the most basic idea of evolution is that beneficial traits are added to life forms as they are living their life because some element is changing in their existence to force that change.
A fish has some driving force to want to walk on land so it develops legs and goes for a walk, but evolution tells us that at best, it will take thousands of years to begin the transformation but by that time, whatever was threatening or pushing the fish out of the water is already done. And while we are at it, who sent out the memo to tell all the lifeforms to stop evolving?
Interesting to say the least, now lets look at a little reality:
In the animal world anything that looks diffderent is either destroyed or is not given the chance to mate. Even if a new trait for a fish to grow legs were to happen, he would not get to pass on his new trait because the other fish would see his deformities and not give him a chance to pass on his genetic information.
Then of course there is the pesky DNA science that tells us two very important things that are not theory but are instead hard science.
1 - All life comes from other life, life cannot happen out of nothing.
2 - All traits in a lifeform come from it's parents so new information cannot be introduced. Many fast talking evolution theory addicts have tried to answer to this but again, everything they offer is theory compared to hard science.
The first one is really the most important though, multi billion dollar labs have been trying to make life start from nothing for over 30 years. They can now simulate thousands of years in just a week or two and can create thousands of combinations of what was available at the time every day and still, they fail. The best they came up with is Frankenstein cells where they cobbled together parts of already existing cells but they don't survive.
When billion dollar labs cannot create life on purpose with endless combinations of natural elements cannot create one living cell, how is it these evolution theory guys believe billions were created completely by accident?
And accident is my best closing comment.
Looking at just the human eye, we see what amounts to something more complex than every invention ever created by man, it is light years away from the most complex video recorder we can buy and that took hundreds of years of human design with practice and error to make it. Then we look at all the other systems of the human body, our reproductive system, out nervous system, everything one massive complex system after another that humans can't even begin to understand enough to create and all working together seamlessly in harmony.........all acidents?
Then lets look at every life form in the world each with it's own set of perfectly working systems of survival and reproduction.....all acidents?
Combined together we have trillions upon trillions of benificial accidents one after the other each requiring a huge degree of perfection to work and each getting that perfection.....all acidents?
You want to talk about faith........well I believe anyone who thinks the Earth has that much pure luck in it to cause that many purely positive accidents of perfection.......well to me that requires more faith than the average follower of God ever has to hold to his heart.
Me?
I say there is not that much luck in the world to produce endless numbers of beneficial accidents one after the other each resulting in a perfect balance for survival. I believe there was something guiding that perfection, now I can't prove my feeling any more than anyone can prove evolution happened but I know what I feel. I feel love for my children but there is no measuring stick that can prove I feel love, just an understanding between humans that have felt love and understand that feeling between each other. Many humans never feel love for another person either, so is their never having found love mean the rest of us are crazy or delusional because they never allowed themselves to feel love?
