Reflectionist
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We don't just ignore them, but we don't associate with them.
Do U believe in ***?
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CrimsonRegret
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I dont believe in ***, because in my opinion, *** is just some fictional person, who people made up just to feel more secure, more at ease, believing that there is somebody in control of their life and it makes them feel safer, thinking that there will always be somebody with them. To me, *** and religion is not based to facts, only based on faith, and to me, if there is no evidence to support the claim, I do not believe that it exists.
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CrimsonRegret
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but honestly, our minds are not complex enough to truely understand evolution and how we humans were formed, so dont you think that in a way, people could not find the answer to how we were formed, thus, used *** as the answer? By saying that *** was their creator, they would have felt at ease, thinking that they understood how they were formed. By doing this, they had not truely found an answer, just more of an excuse.
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majinkamahl
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The mere thought of an omnipotent creature that does not make itself known to shatter all doubt, let alone do many other things is a farce and a play on words.
You say Christ walked ON water? I say he walked BY water. Look at that, I changed two letters and completely changed the context.
The slab Christ was laid on was DNA and Carbon 14 dating tested and it showed that it was only 1400 years old, not 2000.
The Bible was written waaaaaay after a written language was established. You try to keep the same story straight for a hundred generations and see how good it is when you only voice it. Imagine a really long game of telephone.
*** can not be proven, shown, demonstrated, pointed out, put in a test tube, seen, heard, felt, touched or interacted with. Where I come from such a thing is a "figment of your imagination."
To me, *** and everything associated with a *** is a crutch for sinners. *** will save me, I may have slaughter thousands of people, but *** loves me so I will go to heaven. Lame.
You show me 1 single, solitary tangible piece of proof *** exists, and I can show you 100 that he does not. You may hate science, fact, logic and everything I can put before your eyes, but the war on how real it all is has raged on for centuries and it is a losing battle for the Church.
Priests are pedophiles, Chinese cardinals are being impeached, there in murders being cimmitted in ***'s name everyday, no cures are being found, no wars are being solved, no famines are being stopped, world peave is still impossible, people are losing faith, patience, respect and care, and for the most part, it ****** the *** community off.
If I have offended anyone, suck it up. I am not the first to say it, I will not be the last. It is a long debated battle, and at the end of the day, all the "evidence" you have is hearsay and the testimony of infidels and criminals.
You say Christ walked ON water? I say he walked BY water. Look at that, I changed two letters and completely changed the context.
The slab Christ was laid on was DNA and Carbon 14 dating tested and it showed that it was only 1400 years old, not 2000.
The Bible was written waaaaaay after a written language was established. You try to keep the same story straight for a hundred generations and see how good it is when you only voice it. Imagine a really long game of telephone.
*** can not be proven, shown, demonstrated, pointed out, put in a test tube, seen, heard, felt, touched or interacted with. Where I come from such a thing is a "figment of your imagination."
To me, *** and everything associated with a *** is a crutch for sinners. *** will save me, I may have slaughter thousands of people, but *** loves me so I will go to heaven. Lame.
You show me 1 single, solitary tangible piece of proof *** exists, and I can show you 100 that he does not. You may hate science, fact, logic and everything I can put before your eyes, but the war on how real it all is has raged on for centuries and it is a losing battle for the Church.
Priests are pedophiles, Chinese cardinals are being impeached, there in murders being cimmitted in ***'s name everyday, no cures are being found, no wars are being solved, no famines are being stopped, world peave is still impossible, people are losing faith, patience, respect and care, and for the most part, it ****** the *** community off.
If I have offended anyone, suck it up. I am not the first to say it, I will not be the last. It is a long debated battle, and at the end of the day, all the "evidence" you have is hearsay and the testimony of infidels and criminals.
Reflectionist
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I had a big long reply to this, but I accidentally hit the back button... sorry... I'll edit this post tomorrow, I'm too tired to do it now.
The Bracelet didn't create life though.
Might as well add, that whoever posted above me.... come up with something new. Like I haven't heard all of that a bazillino times and can't just lazily knock it aside with one hand while taking a drink with the other.
The Bracelet didn't create life though.
Might as well add, that whoever posted above me.... come up with something new. Like I haven't heard all of that a bazillino times and can't just lazily knock it aside with one hand while taking a drink with the other.
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I don't believe in any ***. I'm labled as Mormon, which is one of the strongeset religions to follow '***'s Will', and I hate the lable, I'M NOT. My mom is and I live in Utah, of the US. The founders of Utah were all 'Mormon' and the percent of Mormon's just dropped to 49% this year. 49% of the people in my state are Mormon. I honestly don't like most Mormons, most are judgmental and cruel, and they spread gossip fast than rabbits repopulate!
Back to the main point... I agree with Mad4lp. Any *** is a myth (you[/y] spelled it wrong...).
Everything has a logical explanation, except how the universe was first created, but even I don't care to spend my time doing that. I watched a video about how the first life forms were made by atoms randomly conecting and eventually the lifeforms became more complex, I DO believe humans evolded from other life forms.
Other than the few things that no body can prove, there is no proof of ***.
So until *** shows up at my door and punches me in the face for not believing, I won't.
Back to the main point... I agree with Mad4lp. Any *** is a myth (you[/y] spelled it wrong...).
Everything has a logical explanation, except how the universe was first created, but even I don't care to spend my time doing that. I watched a video about how the first life forms were made by atoms randomly conecting and eventually the lifeforms became more complex, I DO believe humans evolded from other life forms.
Other than the few things that no body can prove, there is no proof of ***.
So until *** shows up at my door and punches me in the face for not believing, I won't.
Reflectionist
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All right, here we go!
And for your second paragraph, there, I don't think you know what Faith means... The Disciples sat there and watched Jesus teach, die, and resurrect himself. Woulld you say they require faith? Well, they had it. They knew it was going to happen, he told them constantly. I think there would be more Christians if it was all proven. Because then people would know that it's imperative to Accept Christ if you want eternal life.
NOw then... let's see...
Right... The Bible says even the demons believe in ***. But you might look at that like the tooth fairy believing in Santa Claus, wouldn't you?
And for your second paragraph, there, I don't think you know what Faith means... The Disciples sat there and watched Jesus teach, die, and resurrect himself. Woulld you say they require faith? Well, they had it. They knew it was going to happen, he told them constantly. I think there would be more Christians if it was all proven. Because then people would know that it's imperative to Accept Christ if you want eternal life.
NOw then... let's see...
Do you have any article to this? Or anything besides your verbal consent? Not that I don't trust you, of course.
That source just seems so reliable... Makes me want to book a tourist visit, no?
I have a question though. Can you prove *** exists without referring to the past tense? *** is here today isn't he? And we obviously exist now as well. Therefore, in your point of view, we co-exist with ***. You "proved" ***'s existence thousands of years ago, but can you prove his existence now without using the Bible or David 6:9 or past references as a "crutch"
No retarded banana **** though.
https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/yt9-R5OqjDE?feature=oembed
Miracles, maybe.
They found the front page of the bible and it said 'The charecters and stories portraied in this book are entirley fictonal and any resmemblence to any living person or any event is purley coincidental'
Of course that isnt true but I could see the lack of lawsuits back there meant the was no need. Some nut took up the book and took it seriously is the any proof against this theory? No is the any proof that its true? no. But what about people that think the Da Vinci code is real the lack of media and brains being smaller back then (yes human brains have grown im not being naive' tell me it aint bull.
Of course that isnt true but I could see the lack of lawsuits back there meant the was no need. Some nut took up the book and took it seriously is the any proof against this theory? No is the any proof that its true? no. But what about people that think the Da Vinci code is real the lack of media and brains being smaller back then (yes human brains have grown im not being naive' tell me it aint bull.
chesterfreak143
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this thread, is gonna cause some problems....
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majinkamahl
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Read the original book or Genesis. It references MANY gods, aliens, giants and other unholy things. Things which you Christian types tend to like to think does not exist. I would point out also that Christ was Jewish, why are Christians so apt to forget that? Or that it was Roman Catholics that are descendants of the men who crucified him? Did the Da Vinci Code hit a little too close to home for you? Are low numbers of church goers getting to you? Are lack of people paying the Church affecting your pride?
Did you know what the Church did in the Dark Ages? It RE-WROTE history to suit ITS benefit. History is always written by the dominant culture. Whoever Christianity could not convert, they killed. THAT is documented and proven. I would also point out that the Church funded the government, and in turn, the government made people seek absolution from the church (i.e. money).
Did you know the actual Bible was edited? Prior to 1800, the Bible had references to reincarnation. But what power mongering Church wants it's paying pew people NOT giving them money? People believed if they got it wrong, they were reincarnated to do it over. Think about it.
And how perfect is a *** to have rebels? Would he not be perfect at keeping his followers happy? Or being perfect at persuading them to not be disgruntled? Why does Lucifer, the devil, exist then?
Arguement of evil:
Is *** all powerful?
Is *** all knowing?
Is *** perfectly benevolent?
If *** is all powerful, why does evil exist, why does he not banish it?
If *** is all knowing, why does he not know of evils plan and pre-empt them?
If *** is perfectly benevolent, why does he allow his children to suffer?
Put that in your peace pipe and smoke it.
Done,
~MK
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Yep, written by the same people who thought the world was flat, the Earth was the center of the universe, and that dark spirits caused disease and famine.
But I think it's a little unfair to ask all the "Why nots" to Ref, he's not a priest or anything. I only have a single why question to anyone who is Christian because I just want to know. Why is there only proof of *** in the past? When you guys contradict us and prove ***'s existence, everything refers back to the Bible and what happened thousands of years ago. Just prove that he exists now.