The only "good" horse in a race is the one you have money riding on.
I choose to put my money on my people...
Emotive imagery, fullauto. Besides, they were all hooded figures. No fewer than ten orgs claimed responsibility for the London bombings. It's geurilla warfare. Gruesome beheadings are visually disturbing. No less disturbing than retrieving limbless children from a bombing zone, or trying to extinguish napalm burnt civvies from the same. War is ******* **** personnified.
The fact that at least ten groups claimed responsibility for those actions, is disturbing... did any of our allies claim responsibility for our actions... NO, because we view it as wrong, and they view it as heroic... scary
And napalm and DU spreading makes for heroes? That's ******* brutal, barbaric, and long-reaching in genetic impact.
Who the **** said we were heroes? I just want to be alive when this **** is over... **** heroics... this isn't a ******* novel, this **** is for real... quit inserting your meaning into my words... you and I will NEVER be on the same page...
You left out genocide. A minor oversight, I'm sure.
You are an idiot... flat out... can you please explain to your mother that a 3rd 21st chromosome is a bad thing and should not get passed on... thank you....
What ******* rules indeed? There was this mad rush to overturn existing legislation to ensure certain figureheads would not be hanging from the gallows, and they weren't ******* Iraqis.
There are no rules dealing with this type of war... that's my point! Had we been dealing with England, or australia, then yes, I'm almost positive we would have adhered to a more civilized set of standards... We tend to fight for political, and monetary gains... Not so in this case...
And of course we rushed to overturn some rules... When this whole thing kicked off, we knew it was going to be a much different kind of war, and that we would need to break the rules of 'civilized combat' (as if such a thing exists) in order to win... Knowing that we would have to do it, should we just leave the rules in place so we can hang the first man to have to make a tough decision... That would look real good at the next Al Qaeda meeting...
Ahmed Abu Salom Jihadee: "Those idiots hung the only man that wanted to fight!"
Abu Abu Abu Kilmerica: "What a fetid pile of camel dung these people have for brains!"
Who is the enemy? Islam? Why not come out and say this is a holy war? It was never about bin Laden. It was never about Al Qaeda. Point to the enemy.
Islam is not the enemy... it just so happens to be that 98% of who we are fighting are Muslims... That being said, we are not at war with Islam so much as the people in it... This is NOT a holy war... This is Cultural war between two sets of ideologies... You don't hear them saying "death to Christ!", they say death to the infidels.. We don't say Death to Islam, we say, "a rather painful Indian burn to others of weird ideologies that want to see us dead!"
This is not a pure form of anything. It is a corruptly instigated war of money, that used religious fervour on both sides to incite the people of both camps to action. I also will do anything in my power to protect me and mine. I will not be used as a pistol of a corrupt government to invade another country.
Your brain is a pure form of moose dung
There is a threat to all of us. This threat is clearly based in fear and propaganda. As long as we all suck on this threat, and nurture it, and feed it, and hate the changes that it brings to our lives, the longer this threat will live and prosper.
Propaganda... So I didn't see us get attacked LIVE ON ******* TV... I didn't see both sides Torture, Mame, and kill prisoners... I didn't see bin laden laugh with glee at the news or our buildings collapsing... This are all made up... Like the German 'Ja' posters of 1938! Complete fabrication...
You know what I did see though... Every ******* major political figure in the west RUN to a ******* mosque on September 12th... WOW... That ******* scared me! We have to commit genocide to keep our leaders from extending a hand to Islam! Man, that was a powerful statement of commitment there! I want to kill just to impress them!
You're a ******* moron... I hope to see you on the next Jihad video..
I would do the same. No question.
of course you would... You would perceive a grave threat to you and yours... This situation is no different, but with this, it threatens your people and not you directly... So where's the threat right? That's like saying, "kill my wife, but leave me alone and we have no problem!"
I would kill. I would not intentionally torture. Describe how torture would help you to protect your family. I would consider the prolonging of an enemy's death by torture to present an increased threat to my family.
If you had someone ductaped to a chair that knew where the son of a ***** was that was going to kill your family was, you would torture...
At this point in time, I disagree. The world disagrees. Give it twenty years, and with our current birth rates, westerners will indeed be the Davids.
You can disagree all you want... we are at a marked disadvantage, and the cause of it is a lack of unity by people like you...
Our foot soldiers are day labourers. Patriots or not, they treat their jobs as jobs. We don't sincerely believe we are fighting for our lives, just yet. It will come.
Exactly... We ARE in a fight for our lives, now... and if we treat it as such, we can win, but if we wait until later to deal with it as such, we are doomed...
At this point in time, torturing captured troops and then releasing them is perhaps a thorn in our side. If it has to happen, then kill them. After interrogation. Harsh, but under your edicts, more effective than torture and release.
Absolutely... Take NO prisoner... If that is the rules they want to go by, then those are the rules we MUST adopt...
They are in Jihad mode. The west is in defense mode. How would you motivate the west to the religious fervour that grips the fanatics?
I would explain to them with NO Political correctness, NO uncertain terms, and from the perspective of THE WEST and not America alone, that What we are in is a long term life or death struggle with an enemy that wishes to KILL US... not convert us, but kill... And that they have all the tools they need to do it, like a strangle hold on our energy supplies, a strangle on their information distribution, numbers, zealotry, and will! And that if we don't buck up and put a solid front to them, we will certainly lose our lives, and our culture... Don't make this America's war... This is a war of West and East... Two cultures competing for the same petre dish! and only 1 will win... Nations and cultures are not murdered, they commit suicide!
Look at Rome...
